/mlpol/ - My Little Politics

side note:
it does not need to be necessarily political related
if you have a fun philosophical thoughts share em

>>388386
This will probably come off as radical centrist midwittery, but I've been of the position for a while that ideology is inherently venomous, and that idealogues peddle what is essentially computer code incompatible with the human spirit. A tool for powers that be to box up opinions and positions in neat, easily surveilled and categorized ways. An anti-dogma dogma.
Typing this out made me feel like a jackass.

>>388392
Well, the important thing is that you've realized your mistake, anon.

>>388392
i guess being a radical centrist is ain't that bad
you see both side's error and negatives and decide choose the good and positive parts of it
i think natzis nationalism for a country is good
i think communist's propaganda (posters , songs etc) is good
i think anarchist fight for freedom is good
capitalism for the economy of a country is good
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>Typing this out made me feel like a jackass
no, what you wrote is logical

>>388386
I wholeheartedly believe in strength, of the mind and body. I believe in rage and embodying all of it into creative outlets, like the gym for one example. I believe in a higher power, that man is more than mere flesh, that the soul is eternal but can be corrupted or exemplified (how fast that process is varies for everyone). Although I believe in a higher power I also believe in evil. I believe in adapting evil and molding it to my own use and gain and I'm not blind to both the benefit and detriment.

I advocate that people find the strength to utilize the strength to say no, to not forgive. I advocate that they fear not the rage but embrace it and understand that it can't be only just for violence. I advocate that having a tie with God does not mean you can just shirk responsibility to the generations that will come after you or the duties, the strengths, or the legacies you inherited in your blood and genes and even soul from the generations that came before you, that survived countless tribulation and hardship to ensure your place in the world.

>>388395
it is like the yin and yang / chi and kai (soul and life , mind and soul if both powerful the man can become the best version of himself
i kinda do believe that perfection may not exist , but our best self does , so become the best version of yourself in life and get gud at who you are really are
embrace your true talent and skills and improve them
>that man is more than mere flesh
true
>God does not mean you can just shirk responsibility to the generations that will come after you or the duties, the strengths, or the legacies you inherited in your blood and genes and even soul from the generations that came before you, that survived countless tribulation and hardship to ensure your place in the world.
, nice ideology mate! it is both great and well-thought

>>388386
I remember when I first found mlpol and checked /üb/ i felt wholeheartedly inspired, but it felt like untapped potential. Überhengst could be an entire philosophy on its own.
Superiority of being a brony.
Thing is, I'm basing my argument on studies finding that autists really have higher percentage of testosterone in their blood than their same-age counterparts, but also in addition how many projects were made by the community compared to other communities.
Fuck, most of 'em aren't even horse fuckers.
It's a shitty idea I developed and I'm willing to see it refuted, but I had fun writing this.

>>388405
i think it was more about self improvement , but i agree i expected more from that board when i heard it is about Nietzsche philosophy
i asked here , if they could add a philosophy board for just this type of discussions
https://mlpol.net/qa/9987#9987
they prob won't add tho, idk

>>388397
Thank you anon. I'm honored. It took trial and error, but having learned from the experience, from what I learned from my family, friends and especially from other anons, I am beyond grateful to know, to understand, how things truly are and to adapt to it. To face it head on and not just survive but thrive.

>>388405
hey i am not here to judge anyone , any type of ideology is a welcome for me
no one lived forever to know all the answers and no one lived twice to experience every wrong and right

>>388395
>I also believe in evil
Related to that, how many of you believe in karma? not the pajeet-based, but just "you do bad, you get bad"?
I'd like to believe in it, but seeing those in power, it's hard to defend it

>>388408
yw bro , love and respect

>>388412
i believe if you act like a thug , you gonna only gather people like yourself around you, karma might mean that for me , if you wanna act like a stereotype you only attract that type of stereos in your life
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if you act like a caring person , you attract kinder people idk you might attract jackasses as well , that is why i am against being a kind-hearted gullible person , you might getabused alot
so always being balanced is the best imo

<i guess i should share my own ideology as well
the meaning of this symbols:
wrench means; fixing and improving
the book means; knowledge and advancement
the crown means self-importance and self-respect
it also represent a person who praise and puts higher those above values
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i believe we as humans who live on this planet , we should have been conquered the whole galaxy at this point , but our wars and hatred against our species put us so back in the past
also yes i know wars sometimes improves technology as well but still , its destruction can kill so many talent-full and skill-full people as well
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<i am open to any discussion toward and any type of criticism against my beliefs

>>388421
also a red version cause why not?

Techno-distributism
3D printers and a house!

>>388471
cool , if you wanted please elaborate more about it

>>388475
sorry it was a lil bit too long , i def will read more about it later
so far
it is a perfect critism agianst all of the pol-compass ideologies , you guys know your shit
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but production of what?
science and robots?till we end up in a futuristic world that we have fantasized about since year 2000s?

Hell is reincarnation.
You have to come back and do it over again until you get it right.
"Groundhog Day" as a punishment, basically.

>>388480
so life is just a punishment
and we are here just to suffer
...

>>388484
>>388480
That would be similar to the Buddhist interpretation.

>>388487
i don't know much about hinduism
but i am sure they also plagiarized some of their ideologies from other countries
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also i think Christianity also believes in suffering as a key to feel closer to Jesus
some groups at least do believe that

>>388490
most Abrahamic religions suggest that Adam got gulaged here as a punishment for eating God's forbidden balls apple

>>388490
>i don't know much about hinduism
>but i am sure they also plagiarized some of their ideologies from other countries
Hinduism is based on ancient Aryan Vedic mythology, which is also the root of several other religions, Hellenism, for example. It's more accurate to say those religions all borrowed from similar root sources.
Dyus Pater (Vedic Sky Father God) = Dyaus Pitr (Hindu Sky Father God) = Zeus Peter (Greek Sky Father God) = Jupiter (Roman Sky Father God)
Many religions are based on ancient Aryan mythos.

>>388496
oh yeah also mithraism or mehrism as well which was a old region popular in both persia and roman culture

Heaven and hell are on earth. Our ancestors are in hell. After their death, they were sent to today, as torment.

You can be sent to hell for not fighting evil hard enough.

>>388510
i guess i did not hard enough

>>388478
>but production of what?
Good the community needs
>science and robots?
You vill own zee robots
You vill study zee science
You vill be self sufficient
Und you vill be happy!

>>388511
Why aren't you bringing about heaven on earth?

>>388513
because i mostly saw hell here
i think that is more comparable to my life

>>388512
i guess das ist gut
i'll be glad to be a part of it ngl

>>388475
I've had that screenshot in my folder for 5 months 20 days, giving me some time to think. I believe the main problems with it are NPCs, Fraud, and globalism.

The NPC will always choose centralized, because an alternative means there's choice, which requires the NPC to think. Some say NPCs even have a hidden Paxos protocol to ensure that where there is choice, one of the choices will be elected to monopoly.

> each family should be given access to the means of production
In a community of ~100, this is kinda okay. Anyone wanting to commit fraud can get away with it maybe 50 times before the customers go elsewhere. NPCs will have to choose between maybe 5 competitors for any product. Fine, we know communities can function like this.
Enter intercommunal (, or even global) shipping: Fraudsters have unlimited victims, requiring central market oversight to catch them. NPCs will demand an amazon.com because they heard product is cheaper two towns over.

"No, we're not doing globalism anymore", you say?
Globalism is disgusted by holes in its net. If someone from your community does not have to follow their rules, you have the ability to defraud the citizens of globalism, and that can't be allowed. How do you plan to "leave" globalism? Look at what North Korea has to do to stay out.

> The primary function of the state should be [...]
This is nice. "For the people" is nice. But why do people swear fealty? It's to not live in anarchy, war, or be an outlaw. that's the minimal (thus primary?) function of the state. Unless someone thinks that cutting up the nuclear family is causing anarchy, they're not gonna become an outlaw over it. (also importing migrants, taxes, distant cruelties, etc)

>>388539
>The NPC will always choose centralized, because an alternative means there's choice, which requires the NPC to think. Some say NPCs even have a hidden Paxos protocol to ensure that where there is choice, one of the choices will be elected to monopoly.
I don't think that is necessarily true. If given the choice to work for a friend or neighbor over a mega corporation or the government they would choose someone they knew.

>Fraudsters have unlimited victims, requiring central market oversight to catch them.
There would be oversight. In this ideology the state still very much exists and creating a level playing field is part of that state's duty.
>NPCs will demand an amazon.com because they heard product is cheaper two towns over.
I think if explained to the NPCs that they would lose employment opportunities they would support local production. Nationalist parties are gaining ground all across the globe for this very reason. Also all the towns do not have to be focused on creating the same goods. A city in the desert could be focused on growing and processing guyale into latex and another town with better access to water could focus on industrial solvents production from microbes another on producing rubber, ect.

>How do you plan to "leave" globalism? Look at what North Korea has to do to stay out.
It would be a gradual decoupling hence why engineers and scientists need to be part of the vanguard. If linchpin goods can be manufactured by the communities globalists have lost all leverage and good luck invading when everyone can manufacture weapons and parts for weapons. This decoupling could start as turning at home manufacturing or even some lab testing into contract work. Or using small co-op businesses to do some of the work larger businesses do but cheaper. All while researching the linchpin manufacturing or replacements in secret. When small scale manufacturing of the linchpin items is perfected you tell the globalists to fuck off.

>But why do people swear fealty?
The right to rule would come from an understanding that the government is protecting the freedoms of the people and leverage of the workers. As for the ruling class why they would participate in such a system is because they would be protecting their interests. Property can still be owned and accumulated to a certain point, but not to the point where someone would have as much power and influence as the likes of Bill Gates.

>>388551
> given the choice to work for a friend
Could be.

> if explained to the NPCs
I can accept an NPC preferring to work with their neighbours, but now you're asking them to do philosophy and think about the consequences of their actions.
If you want something like this from them, you have to make very dumbed down & very clear social/cultural expectations. A retard should be able to call out and scorn someone for buying yeast cultures from the wrong place, if that's core to your system.

> another town with better access to water could focus on [...]
>> local communities could trade and cooperate (>>388475)
Is this like negotiated by the mayor? I enter my petition if I need remote products? (some?) It feels a bit bribery-sensitive but maybe, not unheard of.

> Nationalist parties are gaining ground
Globalism is hurting them currently and actually, not abstractly. Not in the future, or in a history textbook.

> The right to rule
Can the NPC understand at what point the government stops protecting the leverage of the workers? If he witholds the government the right to rule, then he's an outlaw. If the NPC is not sure (having thought about it at all), then he's just going to wait and see if anarchy breaks out over this transgression, and accept it otherwise.

>>388386
I've always had a strong individual belief that it's the duty of everyone to foster, nurture their personal own digital library/wikipedia on hard drives and share date from it with others. Which is basically what we are doing when we share PDFs of books etc., but I mean I literally write down every single thought that occurs in my head, if it's worth doing so.

>>388604
knowledge should be free for everyone to use
and it should be free to teach it and learn it

i am glad you guys are active here
i appreciate it

>>388604
again , i am not here to judge
i read every discussions here
any ideology for me worth listening

>>388386
Personally, I fully believe in the seeking of knowledge.
Don't go posting quotes and thinking all high and mighty. Understand them, read about them. Even learn about their history.
A wise man learns from the example of men who discover it through trials and tribulations. Read phylosophy, read about good body habits. Heck, even read holy books too, not only the bible.
You won't believe how everything sounds so familiar and connected. Trust me, learning a lot about ideals, wisdom, and spiritualism can cultivate a better mind and soul.

But on the realistic side, I picked Cynisism (or one of his schools): I have a roof, a machine that gives me entertaintment, knowledge, and food is in my fridge. Anything more is just flaunting yourself. Nothing bad with it, but don't wish for the stars when you made a nice home on the moon.

>>388386
philosophy is cancer of intelligence, simple as that

>>388603
>I can accept an NPC preferring to work with their neighbours, but now you're asking them to do philosophy and think about the consequences of their actions.
They don't need to understand philosophies, only the consequences of their actions and that is something they can do.
>If you want something like this from them, you have to make very dumbed down & very clear social/cultural expectations. A retard should be able to call out and scorn someone for buying yeast cultures from the wrong place, if that's core to your system.
A retard could understand that buying from hostiles is giving them resources. Even the dumbest boomercon understands this with China.

>Is this like negotiated by the mayor?
I think most of it would arise organically. Different biomes have different crops to offer.

> I enter my petition if I need remote products?
You would be able to buy your product from an online storefront. Now that store would be under the watch of the government to ensure fair business practices that worked within the interests of the local community and the nation as a whole.

>Globalism is hurting them currently and actually, not abstractly.
Then now might be a good time to get working on this.

>Can the NPC understand at what point the government stops protecting the leverage of the workers?
They wouldn't even have to. With enough people owning strong, but local businesses there would always be enough elites ready to become counter elites. The division of economic and state power would make it more difficult for what we have now to form again.

>>388386
I would like to express myself, but I either feel like the text comes-out as too pretentious, too insane, or way too basic. I rather post some basic stuff:

<NPC
The world is in a constant fight between those that can reason and those that cannot. The issue is, in reality everyone can reason but we can only do so to a degree.

So many people calling others 'npcs' are themselves just that. Even I am, because as much as I or anyone delves into the schools of thought, we are limited by the beastly condition known as human nature.

In other words, if a being such as an angel; A conscious being that is not an animal and whose flesh does not resemble flesh does exist; For them we would be no more than an 'NPC'. They would clearly see our limitations, those that are hidden from ourselves.

It would be better to consider the way we treat the 'npc' for one day somoene might also treat us the way we treat them.

<World
The world is both heaven and hell. It does not matter if you have money or not, the only thing that matters is the way you see it.

Self-help books love to tell you 'jUst have positive thoughts!!!', but they do so from the viewpoint of ignorance.It is impossible for someone to force themselves to see heaven by forcing themselves to view everything in a positive light.

To see heaven in earth you need to find the edges of human perception and come to realize just how much bias your animal body injects into your thoughts.

I dont feel like writing more right now. Maybe later.

>>388392
>ideology is inherently venomous
Ideally an ideology should work for you (and everyone else within the ideology) and not the other way around, that's tth poison.

Followers are good for the ideology itself and those already gaining from using the ideology, they are also terrible for the followers of the ideology and ultimately for the ideology itself.

Centrism is a place for people that have no interest in making use of ideologies, but it's clear that you want to take some sort of stance or action. What you are doing right now is akin to anarcho-monarchism; It works but ultimately anarchy does not benefy humans.

>>388395
I like your life philosophy, Anon. If more people saw the world like you do, things would no doubt be different, if not at least for the fact that people would be more emotionally responsible, and willing to use their own hands to bring change, it's a really good set of values to hold.

>>388421
>we should have been conquered the whole galaxy at this point
I see that kind of desire as little more than an expression of the human ego. We can do 'conquer' the galaxy at some point, I'm not against that, but before that we should have attained the 'beauty of creation' as some say.

If humanity were to expand into space with our current mindset, it would be akin to a beast engulfing everything in it's way for no reason other than to fulfill it's own ego.
"Look, father, look me in the eye for I know you are out there. I am not just an animal, I am not JUST a human, I am the emperor of the whole universe, the whole of your creation!" Cries the child as he plants his flag in the very last unconquered world in the universe, and society, and animals, and every thing else remains the same.

It's important to denote that 'father' here is not necessarily god, but actually existential despair.
From the begining of consciousness humans have asked themselves 'why', and conquering the universe seems like a logical step to try and fulfill that hole.

I think conquering the universe could be cool if humans did it to enjoy the universe, and not to try and prove something. Way too many people already fulfill their sense of purpose with physical things.

>>388609
<oooh an anon brother from Argentina, welcome to the thread
, yeah i completely agree with you
on discord i was in so many religious and philosophical servers , just to learn about them , i learned about Satanism , Islam , Christianity ,Judaism
just because it was prohibited to learn about them, i decided to learn about them myself instead of listening to others' judgement towards them
_also i believe if you don't have the knowledge about something that is against your beliefs in someway you cannot debate them if you don't know what those guys stand for

>>388610
>philosophy is cancer of intelligence
i personally describe it as non-holy human self-made religion

>>388610
>thinking is scary to me
Thank you for your input

>>388614
<a brother from Uruguay!! , welcome
yeah any ideology can become a toxic and kinda an circle jerk and an echo-chamber for bunch of people who want to gaslight others (and themselves) to believe that their ideology and beliefs are better than others
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we usually call centrist , a bunch of normies who don't want to get involved in any dramas, which i am one
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anarchism can be bad because lawlessness and chaos can be harmful for people in a society after a while
even tho i really value freedom but others do have rights to like being lawful and being a part of a bigger governing system