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>>387146>>387149>>387151>Look guise we're doing things on the domain! Please don't make those icky alt-chans your home! Don't you remember all the good times you had with our friendly users and our watchful, hardworking janitors? We'll be back any minute now! Trust us!Sure seems like stalling tactics to me. If you add up the rest of the situation as it sits, my feeling is they're expecting a very prolonged downtime and stringing the users along is about the only form of damage control they can muster.
It's also nice of them to remember the tumblr blog exists, because we have this gem down there. I find it hard to believe that 4chan passes and banner ads that probably don't convert very well were making enough to pay off anything near this order of magnitude.
https://blog.4chan.org/post/152411853897/4chan-bandwidth-was-3pb-last-month-4chan-doesnt>>3866244chan is a very coincidental place.
[Read more] API AND CDN ARE ONLINE
/qa/ is still present
>>387157That must mean they found the ssh keys!
>>387027Gurupartap Davis is complaining about ugliness?
>>387146looks like hiro or grapeape found out that the blog existed
>>387184Before the sever status on that page showed "Static: Up" and is now down. Whatever that means.
>>387191>/f/ is gone>pdfs are coming backI understand no longer supporting flashes, considering only Ruffle plays them (and sometimes they only play them to show they were made broken), but allowing pdfs means the bait will return the same way they allow it.
>Nah, security is betterYeah, and we know how 4chan always has been...
>>387191>/f/ goneF
>>387194Anon, everything can be vulnerable if it's old and misconfigured. If you make a mistake, anything can be hacked.
Right now the mistake was in PDFs, but that is trivially patched by just updating all the software. There is basically no reason to believe another hack would be any more likely to happen in the same place than anywhere else.
>we know how 4chan has always beenNot updating software for 10+ years, yeah, which it sounds like they're working hard to change.
And if they then immediately get complacent and stop caring again and things fuck up, again, there is no reason to believe the next hole would come from the exact same place.
[Read more] >>387191>/f/ no moreI can kind of understand why as it's probably a potential security vulnerability as Flash is not updated any more but it still sucks.
>>387197Sounds like every 10 years I must check my emails or links in case I left myself exposed when sharing sauces or delivering.
>>387199honestly... glowniggers couldn't give a fuck unless you're a powerful person. That's the sad but also liberating truth. As long as you stay a bum, you remain under the radar.
There's glory in humility ponybro
>>387191how the fuck 4chan managed to be functional on servers from 2010? The fucking Mac Mini stack sounds better
>>387230I have core Cisco switches that havent been powered off for over 15 years.
>>387233I wonder about the hardware being fine with the server load, not their terrible maintenance
>>387230>>387191can someone explain how it is possible that 4chan is ran off of self-hosted servers? This is a load of bullshit
>>387241>noooo you MUST use goycloud for everything!!Cloud makes it easier to manage things, to scale up/down, and to serve websites in different parts of the world. But it's not necessarily cheaper, especially long-term. If you're running a website for 10 years with traffic being relatively steady, you aren't doing any kind of dynamic updates and server failover or anything, and you are located in one part of the world and fuck everyone's latency - then there's no reason not to self-host it.
>>387241Kek, what? How do you imagine that people ran websites before AWS existed?
>>387245>>387246>>387248dats not what I mean my dumb gorilla niggas
4chan has 20 million unique users every month
Do you realise what kind of bandwidth and hardware you need to serve that amount of data?
I don't believe for a second that was entirely ran off of self hosted servers
Not a fucking chance
>>3872524chan was running on cloudflare. A few years ago it also introduced pretty aggresive caching, where new post updates would only load every ~10-30 seconds or so - presumably to make it even more cacheable by cuckflare.
And most of the content was text, with images largely below 4MB.
>>387254>>387255holy shit i'm mad
i would not shed a single tear if the entire janny/mod team got tracked down by their dox and lynched by angry anons
>>387252Less than when it being in container shittery in some shitcloud. Only nuwebshitters think that having more shitlayers is somefuckinghow faster and better.
>>387259and most images it serves are thumbnails, instead of full size ones.
Nearly ten days later, showing some life signs again, sorta.
>>387259so their own private servers are just serving the load balancers / CDN who cache everything? User uploads are done directly to their servers? But how? I think that upload bandwidth also has to be considerably high.
>>387266So if they reset everything, including the counters, does that mean that GETS are finally meaningless?
>>387267>So if they reset everything, including the counters, does that mean that GETS are finally meaningless?no, in fact they even managed to get a backup of April 15th running (use API to request threads)
>>387266I don't understand why you're having such a problem here. If you need more bandwidth, then you buy more bandwidth. If you need more servers, then you buy more servers. In both cases, it's usually cheaper in the long run to buy it directly rather than paying some cloud provider with their enormous markups
>>387266>so their own private servers are just serving the load balancers / CDN who cache everything?Most likely. In fact that's probably why they even introduced the horrible cuckflare caching in the first place, because it's easier than fixing their servers to actually handle the live load in its entirety.
>User uploads are done directly to their servers? But how? I think that upload bandwidth also has to be considerably high.Looking at 4stats.io, you get about ~340,000 posts per day, which is just about 4 posts per second. That is really not that much in the grand scheme of things. Again files are limited to 4MB (except on a couple of boards which are the overwhelming minority of traffic), and on the fast boards like /pol/ and /v/ images were a minority of posts. It really isn't that much bandwidth.
The real costs would be ingress costs from the bandwidth being basically sustained 24/7, and the real achievement is 4chan's ability to handle spikes in traffic, meaning it was actually rather over-specced by some margin most likely.
[Read more] >>387272yeah the spikes on american election days are insane but the system did handle it well
I don't think you could do that with your own hardware in your basement by yourself
>>387275>I don't think you could do that with your own hardware in your basement by yourselfOnly because you can't get a good enough internet connection in your basement
>>387277so if you had the bandwidth you could serve 4chan at peak demand from your basement?
what the actual fuck
google actually lists 4chan.org now
it didn't used to do that
>>387194>>387197>/f/another board lost. i want to bring back all the old boards. /5/, /fk/, /yg/, /z/
>>387272You seem to be forgetting that the majority of 4chan's traffic is spam. Just look at the statistics moot showed before he introduced the captcha.
>>387281Yeah, probably. The hardware wouldn't be cheap, but I don't think you'd need so much of it that you'd run out of space, power, or cooling in your basement. Four posts and an image every second is nothing, and even 100x that seems doable, especially if you optimize the code a bit.
>>387283Trannies that work at Google probably celebrated prematurely (like how they ejaculate, cucks) and took 4chan off their search block list.
>>387291OOOOOR, they simply stopped serving the robots.txt file excluding search engines and Google automatically re-added the site upon its next crawl.
But sure, it's a conspiracy.
>>387293>they simply stopped serving the robots.txt filewhy would they not want to rank on google
>>3872954chan always excluded itself from all search engines using robots.txt. If you weren't a newfag you'd have known that.
https://web.archive.org/web/*/4chan.org >>387281>>387296newfag, IA excluded 4chan.org because of "problematic" content of /pol/
>>387297Do a search for "4chan robots.txt" literally the first result is a cached entry of 4chan's robots.txt file, showing they excluded themselves:
User-agent: ia_archiver Disallow: / User-agent: * Disallow: Sitemap:
http://www.4chan.org/sitemap.xml