Welcome to /mlpol/ weary travellers. In this thread I will collect what I can find about the 4chan hack and try to provide a base camp for those lost 4nons that have managed to find their way here. Feel free to add anything you know or swap stories as well. The following is roughly gathered to ensure it is saved.
kiwifarms threads: https://kiwifarms.st/threads/4chan.37222/page-421#post-21099990
janny lists
https://kiwifarms.st/threads/4chan.37222/page-474#post-21102637
yotsuba sauce
https://kiwifarms.st/threads/4chan.37222/page-475#post-21102680
Hiro on twitter: https://xcancel.com/4chan/status/1912242601102844078
https://x.com/4chan/status/1912242601102844078
Commit messages on 4chan repo:
https://files.catbox.moe/yypkoa.txt
Potential information sources you may keep an eye on:
4chan's IRC channel on Rizon
Hiro's 4chan twitter: https://x.com/4chan
Sun article tracking the incident: https://www.the-sun.com/tech/14029069/4chan-down-updates-controversial-website-hacking/
Sinister/pol/: https://leftypol.org/
Know your meme article: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/april-2025-4chan-sharty-hack-and-janitor-email-leak
Sharty: https://www.soyjak.st/news/thread/4104.html
4chan itself of course: https://boards.4chan.org/
NHNB: https://nhnb.org/fim/res/19935.html
Is it down: https://www.isitdownrightnow.com/4chan.org.html
reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1jzoofg/4chan_hacked_taken_down_emails_and_ips_leaked/
The Official thread by the man of the hour himself over on SoyJack.st: https://www.soyjak.st/soy/thread/10615723.html
The sharty's own summary of events: https://wiki.soyjak.st/The_Great_Cuckset
Janny logs: https://bvll.neocities.org/j/
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>>386966
I have "moved on" as you say, in fact I moved on on the morning after the hack.
And I'll probably go back to posting there again if it comes back up, regardless of whether that's in a week or in six months. Not my problem.
I have "moved on" as you say, in fact I moved on on the morning after the hack.
And I'll probably go back to posting there again if it comes back up, regardless of whether that's in a week or in six months. Not my problem.
>>386969
I have, but why wouldn't I go back if or when it comes back up?
Until it does, it doesn't change anything for me. If it every does, I'll check it out and see if it's still alive. Why would there be some arbitrary deadline after which I swear to never use it again or something?
I have, but why wouldn't I go back if or when it comes back up?
Until it does, it doesn't change anything for me. If it every does, I'll check it out and see if it's still alive. Why would there be some arbitrary deadline after which I swear to never use it again or something?
>>386970
>And I'll probably go back to posting there again if it comes back up, regardless of whether that's in a week or in six months. Not my problem.
No you haven't.
>And I'll probably go back to posting there again if it comes back up, regardless of whether that's in a week or in six months. Not my problem.
No you haven't.
>>386971
Incorrect.
>Why would there be some arbitrary deadline after which I swear to never use it again or something?
Incorrect.
>Why would there be some arbitrary deadline after which I swear to never use it again or something?
>>386972
To be clear, we are already putting up with bullshit with even normal 4chan. All this is adding to the pile, which I will not tolerate forever. Also, if it does come back and it's still the same hostile to its userbase shithole I will also not be happy.
To be clear, we are already putting up with bullshit with even normal 4chan. All this is adding to the pile, which I will not tolerate forever. Also, if it does come back and it's still the same hostile to its userbase shithole I will also not be happy.
>>386978
Of course that is just my decision. If you personally want to put up with more crap that's your issue.
Of course that is just my decision. If you personally want to put up with more crap that's your issue.
>>386979
I'm already an /mlpol/ regular, since April 2017. I did also use 4chan though, mostly just to lurk or find content that isn't around here.
I'm already an /mlpol/ regular, since April 2017. I did also use 4chan though, mostly just to lurk or find content that isn't around here.
>>386981
It's a bit weird to set such an arbitrary deadline.
The site is down because they are fixing what has not been fixed in over a decade. What is the purpose of a May 1st deadline?
It's a bit weird to set such an arbitrary deadline.
The site is down because they are fixing what has not been fixed in over a decade. What is the purpose of a May 1st deadline?
>>386982
I mostly lurk on 4chan for the AI threads. It's amazing how much that technology is speeding up.
I mostly lurk on 4chan for the AI threads. It's amazing how much that technology is speeding up.
>>386981
Why does the 1st of May change your decision on this?
If you think the site was that shitty (which admittedly, yes, it was), then find a new place now. What are you waiting for?
If you would still want to go back to the site if e.g. it comes back up in a week, despite it being shitty and hostile - why would that change on the 1st of May?
Of all the things to base your decision on, "how long it takes them to patch their software" is the one most unrelated to the actual quality of the site and their attitude towards their userbase. If you didn't leave forever during any of the bullshit the jannies ever pulled (partly understandable because all altchans were dead), AND you haven't already decided to leave forever now that the main site is down and all the altchans are actually getting activity for once, why would you suddenly decide otherwise in a couple of weeks?
Why does the 1st of May change your decision on this?
If you think the site was that shitty (which admittedly, yes, it was), then find a new place now. What are you waiting for?
If you would still want to go back to the site if e.g. it comes back up in a week, despite it being shitty and hostile - why would that change on the 1st of May?
Of all the things to base your decision on, "how long it takes them to patch their software" is the one most unrelated to the actual quality of the site and their attitude towards their userbase. If you didn't leave forever during any of the bullshit the jannies ever pulled (partly understandable because all altchans were dead), AND you haven't already decided to leave forever now that the main site is down and all the altchans are actually getting activity for once, why would you suddenly decide otherwise in a couple of weeks?
>>386986
I chose it because it's a neat cutoff point a reasonable amount of time in the future for them to get shit done.
I chose it because it's a neat cutoff point a reasonable amount of time in the future for them to get shit done.
>>386989
>a reasonable amount of time in the future for them to get shit done.
You don't know that. Do you have the full checklist of what needs to be fixed to allow the site to function again?
Besides, again, for all the reasons to want to leave, their developer performance in fixing the site seems like the most irrelevant metric.
>a reasonable amount of time in the future for them to get shit done.
You don't know that. Do you have the full checklist of what needs to be fixed to allow the site to function again?
Besides, again, for all the reasons to want to leave, their developer performance in fixing the site seems like the most irrelevant metric.
>>386992
It's dead now. It might become non-dead later. May 1st has no bearing on that whichever way.
It's dead now. It might become non-dead later. May 1st has no bearing on that whichever way.
>>386993
Again, I will put up with a limited amount of bullshit. My bullshit tolerance ends on that date. Let it be known.
Again, I will put up with a limited amount of bullshit. My bullshit tolerance ends on that date. Let it be known.
>>386994
No, you are just being petulant. You put up with 4chan's bullshit for years. Now you are throwing a tantrum over something entirely unrelated, and one of the least bullshit things they've done in recent memory.
You just want to leave. Leave now then.
No, you are just being petulant. You put up with 4chan's bullshit for years. Now you are throwing a tantrum over something entirely unrelated, and one of the least bullshit things they've done in recent memory.
You just want to leave. Leave now then.
>>386996
"You are well intentioned and principled, but you are overexcited and need to contain yourself. If that requires you to take some medicament, then so be it."
"You are well intentioned and principled, but you are overexcited and need to contain yourself. If that requires you to take some medicament, then so be it."
>>387003
Probably the one time when 4chan asked for a donation run. But that was over 15 years ago, I think.
Probably the one time when 4chan asked for a donation run. But that was over 15 years ago, I think.
>4chan is dead
>rapeape bitches about TES and some Snoy game on Xitter
>rapeape bitches about TES and some Snoy game on Xitter
2 MORE WEEKS
TRUST THE PLAN
PATRIOTS IN CONTROL
WWG1WGA
LAVA HOT POCKET, I REPEAT, LAVA HOT POCKET
TRUST THE PLAN
PATRIOTS IN CONTROL
WWG1WGA
LAVA HOT POCKET, I REPEAT, LAVA HOT POCKET
>>387027
Worship of deliberate ugliness is part of their cult. Every remake that they corrupt is another instance of iconoclasty.
Worship of deliberate ugliness is part of their cult. Every remake that they corrupt is another instance of iconoclasty.
instead of CF 522 error it now says plain "See you soon!"
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>>387146
>>387149
>>387151
>Look guise we're doing things on the domain! Please don't make those icky alt-chans your home! Don't you remember all the good times you had with our friendly users and our watchful, hardworking janitors? We'll be back any minute now! Trust us!
Sure seems like stalling tactics to me. If you add up the rest of the situation as it sits, my feeling is they're expecting a very prolonged downtime and stringing the users along is about the only form of damage control they can muster.
It's also nice of them to remember the tumblr blog exists, because we have this gem down there. I find it hard to believe that 4chan passes and banner ads that probably don't convert very well were making enough to pay off anything near this order of magnitude.
https://blog.4chan.org/post/152411853897/4chan-bandwidth-was-3pb-last-month-4chan-doesnt
>>386624
4chan is a very coincidental place.
[Read more] >>387149
>>387151
>Look guise we're doing things on the domain! Please don't make those icky alt-chans your home! Don't you remember all the good times you had with our friendly users and our watchful, hardworking janitors? We'll be back any minute now! Trust us!
Sure seems like stalling tactics to me. If you add up the rest of the situation as it sits, my feeling is they're expecting a very prolonged downtime and stringing the users along is about the only form of damage control they can muster.
It's also nice of them to remember the tumblr blog exists, because we have this gem down there. I find it hard to believe that 4chan passes and banner ads that probably don't convert very well were making enough to pay off anything near this order of magnitude.
https://blog.4chan.org/post/152411853897/4chan-bandwidth-was-3pb-last-month-4chan-doesnt
>>386624
4chan is a very coincidental place.
Sneed you soon!
>>387184
Before the sever status on that page showed "Static: Up" and is now down. Whatever that means.
Before the sever status on that page showed "Static: Up" and is now down. Whatever that means.
>>387191
>/f/ is gone
>pdfs are coming back
I understand no longer supporting flashes, considering only Ruffle plays them (and sometimes they only play them to show they were made broken), but allowing pdfs means the bait will return the same way they allow it.
>Nah, security is better
Yeah, and we know how 4chan always has been...
>/f/ is gone
>pdfs are coming back
I understand no longer supporting flashes, considering only Ruffle plays them (and sometimes they only play them to show they were made broken), but allowing pdfs means the bait will return the same way they allow it.
>Nah, security is better
Yeah, and we know how 4chan always has been...
>>387191
>/f/ gone
F
>>387194
Anon, everything can be vulnerable if it's old and misconfigured. If you make a mistake, anything can be hacked.
Right now the mistake was in PDFs, but that is trivially patched by just updating all the software. There is basically no reason to believe another hack would be any more likely to happen in the same place than anywhere else.
>we know how 4chan has always been
Not updating software for 10+ years, yeah, which it sounds like they're working hard to change.
And if they then immediately get complacent and stop caring again and things fuck up, again, there is no reason to believe the next hole would come from the exact same place.
[Read more] >/f/ gone
F
>>387194
Anon, everything can be vulnerable if it's old and misconfigured. If you make a mistake, anything can be hacked.
Right now the mistake was in PDFs, but that is trivially patched by just updating all the software. There is basically no reason to believe another hack would be any more likely to happen in the same place than anywhere else.
>we know how 4chan has always been
Not updating software for 10+ years, yeah, which it sounds like they're working hard to change.
And if they then immediately get complacent and stop caring again and things fuck up, again, there is no reason to believe the next hole would come from the exact same place.
>>387191
>/f/ no more
I can kind of understand why as it's probably a potential security vulnerability as Flash is not updated any more but it still sucks.
>/f/ no more
I can kind of understand why as it's probably a potential security vulnerability as Flash is not updated any more but it still sucks.
>>387197
Sounds like every 10 years I must check my emails or links in case I left myself exposed when sharing sauces or delivering.
Sounds like every 10 years I must check my emails or links in case I left myself exposed when sharing sauces or delivering.
>>387199
honestly... glowniggers couldn't give a fuck unless you're a powerful person. That's the sad but also liberating truth. As long as you stay a bum, you remain under the radar.
There's glory in humility ponybro
honestly... glowniggers couldn't give a fuck unless you're a powerful person. That's the sad but also liberating truth. As long as you stay a bum, you remain under the radar.
There's glory in humility ponybro
>>387191
how the fuck 4chan managed to be functional on servers from 2010? The fucking Mac Mini stack sounds better
how the fuck 4chan managed to be functional on servers from 2010? The fucking Mac Mini stack sounds better
>>387241
>noooo you MUST use goycloud for everything!!
Cloud makes it easier to manage things, to scale up/down, and to serve websites in different parts of the world. But it's not necessarily cheaper, especially long-term. If you're running a website for 10 years with traffic being relatively steady, you aren't doing any kind of dynamic updates and server failover or anything, and you are located in one part of the world and fuck everyone's latency - then there's no reason not to self-host it.
>noooo you MUST use goycloud for everything!!
Cloud makes it easier to manage things, to scale up/down, and to serve websites in different parts of the world. But it's not necessarily cheaper, especially long-term. If you're running a website for 10 years with traffic being relatively steady, you aren't doing any kind of dynamic updates and server failover or anything, and you are located in one part of the world and fuck everyone's latency - then there's no reason not to self-host it.
>>387241
>self-host
>connect to cuckflare or run proxies by yourself (like kiwifarms)
>connect domain to cuckflare/proxies
>run the website
>self-host
>connect to cuckflare or run proxies by yourself (like kiwifarms)
>connect domain to cuckflare/proxies
>run the website
>>387245
>>387246
>>387248
dats not what I mean my dumb gorilla niggas
4chan has 20 million unique users every month
Do you realise what kind of bandwidth and hardware you need to serve that amount of data?
I don't believe for a second that was entirely ran off of self hosted servers
Not a fucking chance
>>387246
>>387248
dats not what I mean my dumb gorilla niggas
4chan has 20 million unique users every month
Do you realise what kind of bandwidth and hardware you need to serve that amount of data?
I don't believe for a second that was entirely ran off of self hosted servers
Not a fucking chance
>>387252
4chan was running on cloudflare. A few years ago it also introduced pretty aggresive caching, where new post updates would only load every ~10-30 seconds or so - presumably to make it even more cacheable by cuckflare.
And most of the content was text, with images largely below 4MB.
4chan was running on cloudflare. A few years ago it also introduced pretty aggresive caching, where new post updates would only load every ~10-30 seconds or so - presumably to make it even more cacheable by cuckflare.
And most of the content was text, with images largely below 4MB.
Nearly ten days later, showing some life signs again, sorta.
>>387259
so their own private servers are just serving the load balancers / CDN who cache everything? User uploads are done directly to their servers? But how? I think that upload bandwidth also has to be considerably high.
so their own private servers are just serving the load balancers / CDN who cache everything? User uploads are done directly to their servers? But how? I think that upload bandwidth also has to be considerably high.
>>387266
So if they reset everything, including the counters, does that mean that GETS are finally meaningless?
So if they reset everything, including the counters, does that mean that GETS are finally meaningless?
>>387267
>So if they reset everything, including the counters, does that mean that GETS are finally meaningless?
no, in fact they even managed to get a backup of April 15th running (use API to request threads)
>So if they reset everything, including the counters, does that mean that GETS are finally meaningless?
no, in fact they even managed to get a backup of April 15th running (use API to request threads)
>>387266
I don't understand why you're having such a problem here. If you need more bandwidth, then you buy more bandwidth. If you need more servers, then you buy more servers. In both cases, it's usually cheaper in the long run to buy it directly rather than paying some cloud provider with their enormous markups
I don't understand why you're having such a problem here. If you need more bandwidth, then you buy more bandwidth. If you need more servers, then you buy more servers. In both cases, it's usually cheaper in the long run to buy it directly rather than paying some cloud provider with their enormous markups
>>387266
>so their own private servers are just serving the load balancers / CDN who cache everything?
Most likely. In fact that's probably why they even introduced the horrible cuckflare caching in the first place, because it's easier than fixing their servers to actually handle the live load in its entirety.
>User uploads are done directly to their servers? But how? I think that upload bandwidth also has to be considerably high.
Looking at 4stats.io, you get about ~340,000 posts per day, which is just about 4 posts per second. That is really not that much in the grand scheme of things. Again files are limited to 4MB (except on a couple of boards which are the overwhelming minority of traffic), and on the fast boards like /pol/ and /v/ images were a minority of posts. It really isn't that much bandwidth.
The real costs would be ingress costs from the bandwidth being basically sustained 24/7, and the real achievement is 4chan's ability to handle spikes in traffic, meaning it was actually rather over-specced by some margin most likely.
[Read more] >so their own private servers are just serving the load balancers / CDN who cache everything?
Most likely. In fact that's probably why they even introduced the horrible cuckflare caching in the first place, because it's easier than fixing their servers to actually handle the live load in its entirety.
>User uploads are done directly to their servers? But how? I think that upload bandwidth also has to be considerably high.
Looking at 4stats.io, you get about ~340,000 posts per day, which is just about 4 posts per second. That is really not that much in the grand scheme of things. Again files are limited to 4MB (except on a couple of boards which are the overwhelming minority of traffic), and on the fast boards like /pol/ and /v/ images were a minority of posts. It really isn't that much bandwidth.
The real costs would be ingress costs from the bandwidth being basically sustained 24/7, and the real achievement is 4chan's ability to handle spikes in traffic, meaning it was actually rather over-specced by some margin most likely.
>>387272
yeah the spikes on american election days are insane but the system did handle it well
I don't think you could do that with your own hardware in your basement by yourself
yeah the spikes on american election days are insane but the system did handle it well
I don't think you could do that with your own hardware in your basement by yourself
>>387275
>I don't think you could do that with your own hardware in your basement by yourself
Only because you can't get a good enough internet connection in your basement
>I don't think you could do that with your own hardware in your basement by yourself
Only because you can't get a good enough internet connection in your basement
what the actual fuck
google actually lists 4chan.org now
it didn't used to do that
google actually lists 4chan.org now
it didn't used to do that
>>387272
You seem to be forgetting that the majority of 4chan's traffic is spam. Just look at the statistics moot showed before he introduced the captcha.
You seem to be forgetting that the majority of 4chan's traffic is spam. Just look at the statistics moot showed before he introduced the captcha.
>>387281
Yeah, probably. The hardware wouldn't be cheap, but I don't think you'd need so much of it that you'd run out of space, power, or cooling in your basement. Four posts and an image every second is nothing, and even 100x that seems doable, especially if you optimize the code a bit.
Yeah, probably. The hardware wouldn't be cheap, but I don't think you'd need so much of it that you'd run out of space, power, or cooling in your basement. Four posts and an image every second is nothing, and even 100x that seems doable, especially if you optimize the code a bit.
>>387283
Trannies that work at Google probably celebrated prematurely (like how they ejaculate, cucks) and took 4chan off their search block list.
Trannies that work at Google probably celebrated prematurely (like how they ejaculate, cucks) and took 4chan off their search block list.
>>387291
OOOOOR, they simply stopped serving the robots.txt file excluding search engines and Google automatically re-added the site upon its next crawl.
But sure, it's a conspiracy.
OOOOOR, they simply stopped serving the robots.txt file excluding search engines and Google automatically re-added the site upon its next crawl.
But sure, it's a conspiracy.
>>387295
4chan always excluded itself from all search engines using robots.txt. If you weren't a newfag you'd have known that.
https://web.archive.org/web/*/4chan.org
4chan always excluded itself from all search engines using robots.txt. If you weren't a newfag you'd have known that.
https://web.archive.org/web/*/4chan.org
>>387297
Do a search for "4chan robots.txt" literally the first result is a cached entry of 4chan's robots.txt file, showing they excluded themselves:
User-agent: ia_archiver Disallow: / User-agent: * Disallow: Sitemap: http://www.4chan.org/sitemap.xml
Do a search for "4chan robots.txt" literally the first result is a cached entry of 4chan's robots.txt file, showing they excluded themselves:
User-agent: ia_archiver Disallow: / User-agent: * Disallow: Sitemap: http://www.4chan.org/sitemap.xml
>>387201
No way I've had Freemasons harassing me and ruining my life for 2+ years because they are mad im smart and better than them. They are spiritual trannies and will never be winners.
No way I've had Freemasons harassing me and ruining my life for 2+ years because they are mad im smart and better than them. They are spiritual trannies and will never be winners.
>>387287
so few were around during the evony and anontalk days anymore, and because of that only a handful realize just how fucking bad shit was because of them that captcha was the lesser evil at the time
there was a fucking reason that the mere mention either on certain boards would net you an instaban shortly after the captcha went up
so few were around during the evony and anontalk days anymore, and because of that only a handful realize just how fucking bad shit was because of them that captcha was the lesser evil at the time
there was a fucking reason that the mere mention either on certain boards would net you an instaban shortly after the captcha went up
>>387315
I remember when the anontalk source code got leaked. It was fun to see Kimmo go completely apeshit.
Still have it saved on some HDD.
I remember when the anontalk source code got leaked. It was fun to see Kimmo go completely apeshit.
Still have it saved on some HDD.
>>387254
If that's the new lego then the Self Demolition theory might be true.
Are they really going to try to rebrand?
If that's the new lego then the Self Demolition theory might be true.
Are they really going to try to rebrand?
desuarchive managed to catch a new post on /c/ of all boards
https://desuarchive.org/_/search/boards/a.aco.an.c.cgl.co.d.fit.g.his.int.k.m.mlp.mu.q.qa.r9k.tg.trash.vr.wsg/ghost/none/
https://desuarchive.org/_/search/boards/a.aco.an.c.cgl.co.d.fit.g.his.int.k.m.mlp.mu.q.qa.r9k.tg.trash.vr.wsg/ghost/none/
>>387328
The self demolition theory is when a company purposely sabotage themselves so they can rebrand themselves.
Usually the rebranding come after they get bought out by another company.
The self demolition theory is when a company purposely sabotage themselves so they can rebrand themselves.
Usually the rebranding come after they get bought out by another company.
>>387353
Like what Ubisoft is doing by putting all of its valuable IPs in a subsidiary that Tencent co-owns.
Like what Ubisoft is doing by putting all of its valuable IPs in a subsidiary that Tencent co-owns.
>>387357
It allows you to fire thousands of employees with less trouble, for starters.
It also lets leadership transfer stuff to shell companies, while throwing shareholders under the bus.
Rebranding also gives the opportunity to distance themselves from scandals that may have irreparably damaged consumer perception of the brand.
It allows you to fire thousands of employees with less trouble, for starters.
It also lets leadership transfer stuff to shell companies, while throwing shareholders under the bus.
Rebranding also gives the opportunity to distance themselves from scandals that may have irreparably damaged consumer perception of the brand.
>>387360
Doesn't sound like any of this applies to 4chan. They're worried about losing staff, never mind firing any, I don't think hiro is looking to sell it and they are still 4chan so the "brand" is the same.
Doesn't sound like any of this applies to 4chan. They're worried about losing staff, never mind firing any, I don't think hiro is looking to sell it and they are still 4chan so the "brand" is the same.
>>387361
>Doesn't sound like any of this applies to 4chan
I was talking more about 4chan.
> I don't think hiro is looking to sell it
I actually think he would. He clearly doesn't care about the site, since he hasn't adequately maintained it in over a decade. He would sell it if anyone gave him a good deal, but 4chan probably isn't worth all that much to prospective buyers.
>Doesn't sound like any of this applies to 4chan
I was talking more about 4chan.
> I don't think hiro is looking to sell it
I actually think he would. He clearly doesn't care about the site, since he hasn't adequately maintained it in over a decade. He would sell it if anyone gave him a good deal, but 4chan probably isn't worth all that much to prospective buyers.
>>387362
This. Gookmoot would rather sell the site then try to invest more money into it. The guy left the site to rot like a shitty landlord.
This. Gookmoot would rather sell the site then try to invest more money into it. The guy left the site to rot like a shitty landlord.
>>387364
The elevens warned us about him back when he took over the site. I never trusted him, he always seemed shady as fuck.
The elevens warned us about him back when he took over the site. I never trusted him, he always seemed shady as fuck.
>>387353
>Usually the rebranding come after they get bought out by another company.
very fucking interesting bump
>Usually the rebranding come after they get bought out by another company.
very fucking interesting bump
>>387366
I didn't consider him malignant, just negligent. He's apathetic towards the well-being of the site, and the whole thing is just a monthly paycheck to him.
I didn't consider him malignant, just negligent. He's apathetic towards the well-being of the site, and the whole thing is just a monthly paycheck to him.
>>387372
To this day I can't believe people want to own 4chan (well, except guys who still have a semblance of respect for the values of anonymous funposting)
Is like fighting for the biggest turd hill. Sure, is a big hill, but it doesn't take the fact that is only a pile of crap with the ocasional piece of gold (that is just a piece of corn).
To this day I can't believe people want to own 4chan (well, except guys who still have a semblance of respect for the values of anonymous funposting)
Is like fighting for the biggest turd hill. Sure, is a big hill, but it doesn't take the fact that is only a pile of crap with the ocasional piece of gold (that is just a piece of corn).
>>387255
If /f/ is truly dead I swear I'll find the one responsible for its death and make them pay, full on favela elite squad tier, I'll make use of the tools at the brazilian drug cartels' disposal and dispose of the troon that kills my beloved
If /f/ is truly dead I swear I'll find the one responsible for its death and make them pay, full on favela elite squad tier, I'll make use of the tools at the brazilian drug cartels' disposal and dispose of the troon that kills my beloved
>>387380
4chan has been an important strategic marker is fith generation cogsec warfare. That's also why it was shilled to shit
4chan has been an important strategic marker is fith generation cogsec warfare. That's also why it was shilled to shit
>>387191
>servers bought used in 2010 runs the site
Holy fuck the site was running on self hosted 20 year old servers? Buying literally anything new would have paid for itself many times over just in the electricity cost.
>other stuff
sounds like a "we done nothing, just the bare minimum and pray for the best"
the site will be hacked again, I'm pretty sure there are quite a few RCE waiting in the codebase to be exploited
>servers bought used in 2010 runs the site
Holy fuck the site was running on self hosted 20 year old servers? Buying literally anything new would have paid for itself many times over just in the electricity cost.
>other stuff
sounds like a "we done nothing, just the bare minimum and pray for the best"
the site will be hacked again, I'm pretty sure there are quite a few RCE waiting in the codebase to be exploited
>>387519
I literally do not buy it. 22 unique visiters per month. And this site is allegedly an unprofessional piece of shit ran by complete retards? Not today CIA
I literally do not buy it. 22 unique visiters per month. And this site is allegedly an unprofessional piece of shit ran by complete retards? Not today CIA
>>387267
A post counter reset would seriously fuck up the archives. But I don't think they are going to do that. Just wipe all the boards and that's it. Maybe not even that.
A post counter reset would seriously fuck up the archives. But I don't think they are going to do that. Just wipe all the boards and that's it. Maybe not even that.
>>387296
But that does not prevent the site itself showing up in the search results. If you use robots.txt to exclude the google crawler, then you get "No information is available for this page." if you search for the site but the search result is still there.
This was not the case for 4chan, if you searched for it it would not even show it as a search result. Just like if you search for 8chan/8kun/8ch.
But that does not prevent the site itself showing up in the search results. If you use robots.txt to exclude the google crawler, then you get "No information is available for this page." if you search for the site but the search result is still there.
This was not the case for 4chan, if you searched for it it would not even show it as a search result. Just like if you search for 8chan/8kun/8ch.
>>387519
Read that again. Those are servers made in 2010 that moot bought used before he left in 2014. My guess is they were probably off-lease Nehalem-EP or Westmere-EP units in 2013, the Xeon versions of first gen i7s. Those were excellent buys at the time. It's also entirely possible that the electricity wasn't metered wherever these were colocated, making it not important to upgrade if the hardware can handle the load.
>>387521
The majority of the site itself was designed 20 years ago, the codebase is tiny by modern standards, it takes very little hardware to send text and thumbnails to a CDN, and the post submission rate really wasn't all that high in the scheme of things. I'd say just about any decent two socket machine with quad core CPUs from that era with a good amount of RAM could do it. No reason you couldn't drop in a 10 Gbit/s Ethernet card for bandwidth as well. We're also talking a plural amount of these servers in the email, so it isn't unreasonable to assume that they had two or three of these balancing the load. Seems like overkill to me.
>>387524
Yep. If I really wanted to, I could call my ISP and tell them to run a multi-gigabit business-grade connection to my house, then buy a server with 64 cores and 2 TB of RAM, connect it to Cloudflare or similar for CDN, and I wouldn't even be running at the limit of a single 120V outlet. Running big projects yourself is really easy these days, if expensive.
[Read more] Read that again. Those are servers made in 2010 that moot bought used before he left in 2014. My guess is they were probably off-lease Nehalem-EP or Westmere-EP units in 2013, the Xeon versions of first gen i7s. Those were excellent buys at the time. It's also entirely possible that the electricity wasn't metered wherever these were colocated, making it not important to upgrade if the hardware can handle the load.
>>387521
The majority of the site itself was designed 20 years ago, the codebase is tiny by modern standards, it takes very little hardware to send text and thumbnails to a CDN, and the post submission rate really wasn't all that high in the scheme of things. I'd say just about any decent two socket machine with quad core CPUs from that era with a good amount of RAM could do it. No reason you couldn't drop in a 10 Gbit/s Ethernet card for bandwidth as well. We're also talking a plural amount of these servers in the email, so it isn't unreasonable to assume that they had two or three of these balancing the load. Seems like overkill to me.
>>387524
Yep. If I really wanted to, I could call my ISP and tell them to run a multi-gigabit business-grade connection to my house, then buy a server with 64 cores and 2 TB of RAM, connect it to Cloudflare or similar for CDN, and I wouldn't even be running at the limit of a single 120V outlet. Running big projects yourself is really easy these days, if expensive.
>>387551
>connect it to Cloudflare or similar for CDN
until you host wrongspeech and cuckflare drops you
gg & wp
how the hell did moot do it then back in the day? There were no CDN's back then, were there?
>connect it to Cloudflare or similar for CDN
until you host wrongspeech and cuckflare drops you
gg & wp
how the hell did moot do it then back in the day? There were no CDN's back then, were there?
>>387551
>Read that again.
Read what? 2010 was a long time ago, even if we want to believe it was yesterday.
>not metered
Now days? Since the energy crisis? No fucking chance. The best you get is an allocated power budget (eg 250W average, 500W peak), and you are billed if you were continuously using 100% of that power budget.
>multi-gigabit business-grade connection to my house
You don't even need that. I pay ~20 euro for unlimited 1/1g fiber connection currently, and I have 1/1g since 2014 or something like that. Besides a few outages in the past 15 years (I have this ISP since 2010 or 2009) the connection is extremely stable. Maybe there was like a total 24 hours of outage in the past 15 years. Oh yea, there was one instance when at a sunday I called them at 6pm and the technician was here by 7pm to swap their failed gpon. Many business grade ISPs don't offer support this fast on a sunday night.
>120V
Oh, hamburgerfag problems. We use proper voltages here.
[Read more] >Read that again.
Read what? 2010 was a long time ago, even if we want to believe it was yesterday.
>not metered
Now days? Since the energy crisis? No fucking chance. The best you get is an allocated power budget (eg 250W average, 500W peak), and you are billed if you were continuously using 100% of that power budget.
>multi-gigabit business-grade connection to my house
You don't even need that. I pay ~20 euro for unlimited 1/1g fiber connection currently, and I have 1/1g since 2014 or something like that. Besides a few outages in the past 15 years (I have this ISP since 2010 or 2009) the connection is extremely stable. Maybe there was like a total 24 hours of outage in the past 15 years. Oh yea, there was one instance when at a sunday I called them at 6pm and the technician was here by 7pm to swap their failed gpon. Many business grade ISPs don't offer support this fast on a sunday night.
>120V
Oh, hamburgerfag problems. We use proper voltages here.
>>387527
You're right, I think I'm mixing up 4chan with one of its older archives (Heinessen I think). They did manually exclude the IA, but if Google excluded them it seems it was by Google's own hand.
You're right, I think I'm mixing up 4chan with one of its older archives (Heinessen I think). They did manually exclude the IA, but if Google excluded them it seems it was by Google's own hand.
https://xcancel.com/GrapeApe9k/status/1915797981040902218
https://x.com/GrapeApe9k/status/1915797981040902218
>Brace for faggotry
RapeApe just referenced moot's first description of 4chan.net
are we back?
https://x.com/GrapeApe9k/status/1915797981040902218
>Brace for faggotry
RapeApe just referenced moot's first description of 4chan.net
are we back?
>>387637
API is back
/qa/ is gone: https://a.4cdn.org/qa/catalog.json
/f/ is still a thing: https://a.4cdn.org/f/catalog.json
/qb/ is still a thing: https://a.4cdn.org/qb/catalog.json
API is back
/qa/ is gone: https://a.4cdn.org/qa/catalog.json
/f/ is still a thing: https://a.4cdn.org/f/catalog.json
/qb/ is still a thing: https://a.4cdn.org/qb/catalog.json
1745600844.png (285.2 KB, 1588x1177, Screenshot 2025-04-25 at 20-06-59 4chan.png)
WE ARE BACK
>>387644
You guys are going to stick around here, right?
You guys aren't going back to trannychan... right???
You guys are going to stick around here, right?
You guys aren't going back to trannychan... right???
Remember who loves you and wants you to be happy, and remember who is only doing this to make money
let's see how long it stays up
now they moved new threads to /test/ that needs login, brave jannies, bravo
>>387665
It's probably not ready to go fully live yet. They said they were aiming for Sunday/ Monday I think so will likely be then. We're here for a little bit longer I guess.
It's probably not ready to go fully live yet. They said they were aiming for Sunday/ Monday I think so will likely be then. We're here for a little bit longer I guess.
See you soon!
all these threads
>I didn't know what to do without 4chan
>we're so back
>I missed you
>...
ugh the brainrot is real
>I didn't know what to do without 4chan
>we're so back
>I missed you
>...
ugh the brainrot is real
>>387648
Don't worry anon, I'll be sticking around. Where there's a pony, there will be a friend to be made.
Don't worry anon, I'll be sticking around. Where there's a pony, there will be a friend to be made.
Fuck 4chan I'm only going there to shit on donkey show pedo groomer tamers12345 and Jewish kike groomer AZGChip.
>>387709
You ought to get your bait at least consistent, tamers was reportnuked by donkey show. Should also try doing something interesting with it, as is you seem to be largely ignored. Be creative, of the peanut sized gland of sensory neurons you call your brain has the capacity for creativity.
You ought to get your bait at least consistent, tamers was reportnuked by donkey show. Should also try doing something interesting with it, as is you seem to be largely ignored. Be creative, of the peanut sized gland of sensory neurons you call your brain has the capacity for creativity.
>Banned within 15 minutes of saying nigger
Fuck that noise, I'm never going back to 4chan ever again unless I'm behind 200 proxies and 10 bots post for me with images taken from an imagebooru.
I cannot have a quality discussion about comics & cartoons, TV & video games anywhere these days unless I beg the quest/tg/ and fanfic fags to get their heads out of their CYOA board games and shitty fanfic books and come discuss some media. I'm having more productive discussion in the goddamn Youtube comments section.
.gg/wQbsjQJ3
Fuck that noise, I'm never going back to 4chan ever again unless I'm behind 200 proxies and 10 bots post for me with images taken from an imagebooru.
I cannot have a quality discussion about comics & cartoons, TV & video games anywhere these days unless I beg the quest/tg/ and fanfic fags to get their heads out of their CYOA board games and shitty fanfic books and come discuss some media. I'm having more productive discussion in the goddamn Youtube comments section.
.gg/wQbsjQJ3
>>387717
>I'm having more productive discussion in the goddamn Youtube comments section
unironically true
maybe it's not the bots
maybe the brainrot is real
or maybe zoomers really are retarded
discuss
>I'm having more productive discussion in the goddamn Youtube comments section
unironically true
maybe it's not the bots
maybe the brainrot is real
or maybe zoomers really are retarded
discuss
>>387713
Complete bullshit, 1pbid. Donkey show shills people then claims all critics are themselves. (((Pure Jewish tactics))).
The donkey show uses tamers12345 to groom minors online.
Also donkey show doxxed one of tamers haters on their wiki OOPS someone forgot they are supposed to "hate" tamers.
Complete bullshit, 1pbid. Donkey show shills people then claims all critics are themselves. (((Pure Jewish tactics))).
The donkey show uses tamers12345 to groom minors online.
Also donkey show doxxed one of tamers haters on their wiki OOPS someone forgot they are supposed to "hate" tamers.
>1 day ban for describing who rapeape is
>not full, just board-specific
>not full, just board-specific
>>387721
Remember, they brought it back, but they are the ones who still make the rules, including betraying us in the future.
Remember, they brought it back, but they are the ones who still make the rules, including betraying us in the future.
https://blog.4chan.org/post/781845918774394880/still-standing
New blogpost about what they've been up to for the last 2 weeks.
New blogpost about what they've been up to for the last 2 weeks.
>>387826
>https://blog.4chan.org/post/781845918774394880/still-standing
First paragraph downplay. Oh yeah, it was just a few hours.
<Ultimately this problem was caused by having insufficient skilled man-hours available to update our code and infrastructure, and being starved of money for years by advertisers, payment providers, and service providers who had succumbed to external pressure campaigns.
We can't update our site because because advertisers hate us, and users don't buy passes and do it for free enough :(
>has 200 mods
This place is such a bullshit factory.
<We had begun a process of speccing new servers in late 2023
Almost two years ago. The entire new product lifecycle of a server.
<Putting together the money for new equipment took nearly a decade.
>five figure hosting bill
>can't afford $10k in servers that would cut the bill
<In April of 2024 we had agreed on specs and began looking for possible suppliers
>one year ago
<and few companies were willing to sell us servers
Fucking what? You can buy them from eBay all day long. Or call your Dell or HP rep. Or go to fucking Newegg and buy a motherboard.
Nigger, I can buy a brand new server right now, and I'm nearly broke. I say this as someone who has actually hosted an imageboard in recent years.
<We managed to finalize a purchase in June, and had the new servers racked and online in July. Over the next few months we slowly moved functionality onto the new servers, but we had still been relying on the old servers for key functions. ... The free time that 4chan’s development team had available to dedicate to 4chan was insufficient to update our software and infrastructure fast enough, and our luck ran out.
Bro, luck had less than no part in this. Forget the gay-ass hardware. You didn't update the OS for 11 years.
<We are bringing on additional volunteer developers to help keep up with the workload, and our team of volunteer janitors & moderators remains united despite the grievous violations some have suffered to their personal privacy.
Calling bullshit.
<4chan is back. No other website can replace it, or this community. No matter how hard it is, we are not giving up.
So #brave. Stunning.
It's some nice fanfiction. You should go contact Marvel. They'd love this kind of writing.
[Read more] >https://blog.4chan.org/post/781845918774394880/still-standing
First paragraph downplay. Oh yeah, it was just a few hours.
<Ultimately this problem was caused by having insufficient skilled man-hours available to update our code and infrastructure, and being starved of money for years by advertisers, payment providers, and service providers who had succumbed to external pressure campaigns.
We can't update our site because because advertisers hate us, and users don't buy passes and do it for free enough :(
>has 200 mods
This place is such a bullshit factory.
<We had begun a process of speccing new servers in late 2023
Almost two years ago. The entire new product lifecycle of a server.
<Putting together the money for new equipment took nearly a decade.
>five figure hosting bill
>can't afford $10k in servers that would cut the bill
<In April of 2024 we had agreed on specs and began looking for possible suppliers
>one year ago
<and few companies were willing to sell us servers
Fucking what? You can buy them from eBay all day long. Or call your Dell or HP rep. Or go to fucking Newegg and buy a motherboard.
Nigger, I can buy a brand new server right now, and I'm nearly broke. I say this as someone who has actually hosted an imageboard in recent years.
<We managed to finalize a purchase in June, and had the new servers racked and online in July. Over the next few months we slowly moved functionality onto the new servers, but we had still been relying on the old servers for key functions. ... The free time that 4chan’s development team had available to dedicate to 4chan was insufficient to update our software and infrastructure fast enough, and our luck ran out.
Bro, luck had less than no part in this. Forget the gay-ass hardware. You didn't update the OS for 11 years.
<We are bringing on additional volunteer developers to help keep up with the workload, and our team of volunteer janitors & moderators remains united despite the grievous violations some have suffered to their personal privacy.
Calling bullshit.
<4chan is back. No other website can replace it, or this community. No matter how hard it is, we are not giving up.
So #brave. Stunning.
It's some nice fanfiction. You should go contact Marvel. They'd love this kind of writing.
>>387648
I'll load mlpol up every day as well, because we can have real discussion here. But there are specific generals on cancerchan that I miss
I'll load mlpol up every day as well, because we can have real discussion here. But there are specific generals on cancerchan that I miss
>>387832
>Bro, luck had less than no part in this. Forget the gay-ass hardware. You didn't update the OS for 11 years.
It just occurred to me that an upgrade plan of
>birth a child into existence, and let this chosen one upgrade our infrastructure once he comes of age and understands computers
probably is only slightly slower than gookmoot's performance.
It honestly makes me wonder if some government niggers are in charge of administration over there. I know a couple of government sysadmins that are basically that level of fucking lazy when it comes to updating their shit.
>Bro, luck had less than no part in this. Forget the gay-ass hardware. You didn't update the OS for 11 years.
It just occurred to me that an upgrade plan of
>birth a child into existence, and let this chosen one upgrade our infrastructure once he comes of age and understands computers
probably is only slightly slower than gookmoot's performance.
It honestly makes me wonder if some government niggers are in charge of administration over there. I know a couple of government sysadmins that are basically that level of fucking lazy when it comes to updating their shit.
>>387724
The cuck timer keeps resetting every time I tried to post so looks like I won't be going back.
The cuck timer keeps resetting every time I tried to post so looks like I won't be going back.
>>387832
Clearly their budget goes into paying the mods/glowniggers. Having a tight control of the site is more important than updating it.
Clearly their budget goes into paying the mods/glowniggers. Having a tight control of the site is more important than updating it.
>>387834
>It honestly makes me wonder if some government niggers are in charge of administration over there.
Considering this year's April Fools, where they seethed at DOGE by thrusting their vision of it at users and basically saying, "how do you like it now, huh buddy?" I'd say it really looks that way to everybody.
>It honestly makes me wonder if some government niggers are in charge of administration over there.
Considering this year's April Fools, where they seethed at DOGE by thrusting their vision of it at users and basically saying, "how do you like it now, huh buddy?" I'd say it really looks that way to everybody.
>>387838
That's a very good point. Only people who actively like government corruption, or are just committed to hating everything the evil orange man does, oppose DOGE.
That's a very good point. Only people who actively like government corruption, or are just committed to hating everything the evil orange man does, oppose DOGE.
>>387838
Yeah. Even during the April 2017 Merge they referenced Trump cutting off funding to the national endowment for the arts, which they apparently got money from.
Yeah. Even during the April 2017 Merge they referenced Trump cutting off funding to the national endowment for the arts, which they apparently got money from.
>>387701
1st time? It's always like this when 4chan has interrupted posting, and DOGE was just as spammy with the WERE BACK threads after April 1st ended.
1st time? It's always like this when 4chan has interrupted posting, and DOGE was just as spammy with the WERE BACK threads after April 1st ended.
>>387832
The crackdown on free speech could be an advert bait demand. They won't be associated with wacists.
>t. got an autoban for saying kike on /mlp/
The crackdown on free speech could be an advert bait demand. They won't be associated with wacists.
>t. got an autoban for saying kike on /mlp/
>>387832
They absolutely fixed nothing. It's running on the same retarded code and likely Hiro made them restore the site in the same broke ass functionality or they dont care and need the paypig passes.
Site's fucked anyways, there's now 15 minute timers and the mods are trooning out worse than before because they'll never live down last week
They absolutely fixed nothing. It's running on the same retarded code and likely Hiro made them restore the site in the same broke ass functionality or they dont care and need the paypig passes.
Site's fucked anyways, there's now 15 minute timers and the mods are trooning out worse than before because they'll never live down last week
>>387964
I've seen people claiming it's for any new post now. Oh and people are getting banned for the most absurd things like mentioning altchans and making fun of jannies. The ban list on there is quite funny.
Worse than Reddit now. Guarantee they lurked on other chans and became perma butthurt that everyone despises them and booted the site back ASAP or else they'd lose their dwindling posts per minute
I've seen people claiming it's for any new post now. Oh and people are getting banned for the most absurd things like mentioning altchans and making fun of jannies. The ban list on there is quite funny.
Worse than Reddit now. Guarantee they lurked on other chans and became perma butthurt that everyone despises them and booted the site back ASAP or else they'd lose their dwindling posts per minute
>>387980
>mentionign alt chans
They always had anal pain over it, falling under global rules for advertisement.
It goes all the way back to when moot would censor things about gamergate on /v/ and then banning 8chan from being mentioned since people would go talk about it without his nigger shit there.
>mentionign alt chans
They always had anal pain over it, falling under global rules for advertisement.
It goes all the way back to when moot would censor things about gamergate on /v/ and then banning 8chan from being mentioned since people would go talk about it without his nigger shit there.
1337ches Losing 5GW
Picrel is being spread on 4pol. Thoughts?
Picrel is being spread on 4pol. Thoughts?
>tinfoil
well you can't argue that he who controls 4chan, controls all. I wouldn't be surprised if there were massive glownigger wars in the shadows to own that place
well you can't argue that he who controls 4chan, controls all. I wouldn't be surprised if there were massive glownigger wars in the shadows to own that place
>>388059
We been on the radar, but it's not they can do anything after the federal government is being gutted. They are losing power and they know it. The worse thing that could ever happen is 4chan going down, because it give 4channers a taste of what's like being on other alt-chans. The glowniggers don't got the time or budget to keep track of all the alt-chans and a horsefucking website when something damaging get leaked and they need to do damage control. It happen on 4chan before where even typing a certain person name got you auto-ban.
We been on the radar, but it's not they can do anything after the federal government is being gutted. They are losing power and they know it. The worse thing that could ever happen is 4chan going down, because it give 4channers a taste of what's like being on other alt-chans. The glowniggers don't got the time or budget to keep track of all the alt-chans and a horsefucking website when something damaging get leaked and they need to do damage control. It happen on 4chan before where even typing a certain person name got you auto-ban.
>>388058
/pol/ has been hanging-out with /x/ far too much, but the eval() thing is dangerous if truth, someone with bad intentions could be using it to do /something/, but what this something is would be hard to tell without further proof.
Instead of waving this single theory around like the truth, I think it would be better to collect as many information as possible on this issue to get a better view of the situation as a whole.
I know you guys like to post screenshots of a single thing and wave it around as 'something important', but please remember that this kind of post is a theory, and that it is very important not to have tunnel-vision when it comes to theories.
>>388059
>I guess we're on the radar then
Always have been. If you ever see 'the sky is on fire' atop of the website, it's time to abandon mlpol.net forever and never look back.
[Read more] /pol/ has been hanging-out with /x/ far too much, but the eval() thing is dangerous if truth, someone with bad intentions could be using it to do /something/, but what this something is would be hard to tell without further proof.
Instead of waving this single theory around like the truth, I think it would be better to collect as many information as possible on this issue to get a better view of the situation as a whole.
I know you guys like to post screenshots of a single thing and wave it around as 'something important', but please remember that this kind of post is a theory, and that it is very important not to have tunnel-vision when it comes to theories.
>>388059
>I guess we're on the radar then
Always have been. If you ever see 'the sky is on fire' atop of the website, it's time to abandon mlpol.net forever and never look back.
>>388097
>Always have been
>sky is on fire
I almost forgot about that protocol. Yes, we have been, but we're less of a joke now
>Always have been
>sky is on fire
I almost forgot about that protocol. Yes, we have been, but we're less of a joke now
>Hiro actually put AI jannies to fill the gaps
lol lmao
lol lmao
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