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>>385640I'm a huge newfag and this was the first pony altchan I went to.
>>385640Knowing the 2017 April Fools joke qualifies you as an oldfag? I guess I've graduated
Also there's no way any Anons with even a slight knowledge of the existence of altchans don't know about this place, half of the ghostposts on desu mentioning them are about here and the other half are about NHNB
>>385643>never been to 8chan>try to check it out>security blocker hates ityeah, I think I'm just gonna stay on here and on NHNB
>>385640im a newfag and i found this place from all chans
>>385643I have so many thoughts on this.
If anons want to chase what's popular, then it doesn't matter if 'here' is popular, they're not welcome, at least until they've checked their attitude.
Spoonfeeding denied, come back when you've read the leaks.
NEXT
You made the statement, and an incredibly vague one at that
The burden of proof rests on you
>>385655Ask me how many linky threads there are.
Not on about linky in particular, just saying there aren't 12 threads. Its weird, for a pony so "embraced by 4chan"
>>385652I've been on both ends. When 8chan was a giant I barely used 4chan, having to wade through shit just to get anything meaningful going sucked. But after 8chan was killed by glows the resurrections and all alts since have been barren in comparison after anons lost any faith in anything with 8. I'm not talking about 8moe which was one of the copycats after 8chan->8kun
By the time I was a regular on 4chan again, the /mlpol/ merge happened and I had gotten used to filtering out a lot of the noise and I was there for a lot of the early energy. But over time I visited 4chan more and mlpol less to be involved in whats currently going on 4chan was just faster for getting any info, reaction, discussion. Even though there was a lot of butting heads, it was worth the trade off to make something out of that chaos.
For /mlp/ it meant prompt threads in a spur of the moment like when I was inspired by bootleg ponies that was one of the threads you'd never see on mlpol, generals with lots of content, show discussion, just things to talk about. But now I generally hate that people have stopped trying, coom dominates or mindless crap I feel nothing for. The board was a shadow of what it was, and there's no sign of everyone being on the same page with the bunkers. Like nhnb is the anti-thesis of the freedom that I liked but some people on /mlp/ think it's the better option even permanently.
[Read more] >>385667Are you ready? I hope so.
4chan is structured to hijack your dopamine receptors.
>>385672I mean coomposts are dopamine crack, so it's always been this way, not just 4chan, mlpol is equally 'bad' in this context. The faster posting can be addictive, but so can unspoilered porn jacking off or gooning.
I've been through the gamut of boards being sfw and nsfw, with overbearing puritan mods on some of 8chan's many original boards or the absolute rule breaking shit that won't get deleted on /mlp/ after being reported over and over with obvious bias making everyone hate the board or hate the users for championing one side of the bias or another. And now that there's info that private reasons mods can add notes to ignore reports or strongarm bans it just makes it worse.
>>385640Even smuglo has nothing at all. Im shocked and dismayed
>>385667Too many anons want to become the niggers they fight.they are jealous of their gayop jannie bs instead of apalled
>>385624Nobody from /fg/ or
isekai is in there bro. Theres threads from 2019. This boards /a/ is basically /po/
quality > quantity imo
I'd rather have a community of real and genuine anons than endless spam.
>>385679It's true./a/ is the "too little, too late" effort toward a former staff member's grand scheme. The idea was to TRY to make a pony site receptible to weebs. In the end, he is on to making silly amounts of money and no one cares about anime.
I've only ever used 4chan and /mlp/ and I used it because it was the best place to talk with fan of the show about the show and to find stuff that was created without needing a stupid fucking sign-in and I could call out faggots and niggers for what they were
others might have hated it but I liked the general threads because after the show ended there wasn't enough going on to sustain discussions and it was a good place for fans of specific characters to go to specific threads and show off any green, art or music they made, and the spirit of the fandom was kept alive because of the rewatch streams and the anniversary streams, I don't see us being able to congregate like that if we're scattered to these alts
I don't know when 4chan will be back, but I doubt it'll be gone for long, and when it's back, if it's back to it's normal self, I'm going back to /mlp/, and if it's not back to it's normal self I'm not even sure if I'll stay around here if it won't feel like the fandom with how dead it feels
>>385703Hit the nail on the head, exactly how I feel too. It just isn't the same here, and it's very lonely.
>>385707Also, I was in the middle of a discussion about Trixie before the site went down, I really wanted to see to the end of the discussion.
>>385703Honestly a break from doom scrolling the chans sounds healthy but my life situation prevents me from doing anything productive for 10 moar days
>>385707>>385708we'll go back home soon guys, don't worry
>>385652It's not about "popularity" as an abstract metric, it's about having more stuff to talk about. It's nice when you wake up and most of the threads you were watching have something to reply to. It's less nice when you wake up and most of the threads you were watching have between 0 and 3 replies, and none of them are relevant to any discussions you were involved in so you close the site again and that's the limit of your engagement this time.
Mind you /mlpol/ is actually pretty good right now. It's a decent chunk of the /mlp/ activity and has enough stuff going on to actually self-sustain a bunch of conversations, it's nice. But there's still currently less to talk about than there used to be on /mlp/.
>inb4 it's all artificial mod bait shill bot janny spam!!Even just taking a couple of generals I was a regular in, which have set up bunkers either here or on nhnb too (and even taking into account both for those who have threads on both), there's some that used to get easily 20-50 posts overnight and that now get 5-10 or less.
>>385727this
I don't give a shit about popularity, I don't care about schizo rants about how artificial mod spam janny fag whatever shit, I want to be in a place where it feels like discussion happens
>>385729You dont know that greenmarepussy. He could be a filthy phonezigger
I may be in minority here, however once 4chan goes back I feel like I will try to stick around, I like Anons in here (even if they only post once a day) so I kind of wish to give back to the folks that help me during this harsh time of refuge.
>>385742oh don't get me wrong, when 4chan does come back I am going back there, but this place is good and I'll definitely check in more regularly
>>385742>I may be in minority herenot really, I also want to sneedpost here
altchans are fun to use when their admins aren't fucking with its userbase
Let's play a game!
Guess when 4chan is coming back:
https://strawpoll.com/kogjRdArNg6I will forever stand by my sentiments that the mods and literal tranny jannies deserve it.
It didn't cross my mind, but looking back it's surprising how this kind of thing didn't happen sooner.
>>385742Definitely this. I honestly even kind of regret not coming here more in the past, this place is cool.
In my defense up till now every time I'd check in every couple of years or so it felt so slow that it really felt like there was nothing to talk about. I guess I'm just not in the right altchan mindset where you visit once every 3-6 months, reply to a bunch of threads, leave, and in half a year come back and check if anyone's replied. It feels odd. To the seasoned altchan browsing anons, how often do you actually get sustained conversations when replying to months-old posts like that? It's just not the same if you're talking into the void and the original anon won't even bother seeing your reply.
Also the lack of a thread watcher meant I'd have to manually check back every few months or keep some tabs permanently open, so in the end even though I tried a couple of times I never bothered to become a regular here.
Hopefully now with at least a few more anons like us sticking around things might remain at least slightly more dynamic. And if Pupper is really working on a thread watcher that'd be very big. But either way I'll make a conscious effort again to try checking in a bit more often regardless.
>>385850There's no need to apologize anon, it HAS been dead as shit. A chan board is nothing without posters, and for a while now there's been ill enough posters to count on one hand. I'm astonished (and grateful on levels you may never understand unless you attend a con and get some of the free food) we're having this exchange. Greet the world with open arms, as Polites would say
>>385853Yeah, I getcha.
I sincerely hope that the simple explanation for this is that it was born of an April fool's joke, and that, like myself, many checked it out but ultimately had no reason to make it their second home or anything like that, and so it was left to languish as an obscure altchan and of course inactivity begets inactivity as those who found it interesting but weren't super dedicated to sticking around also began dropping off as activity tapered off.
And if that's true, in turn I equally hope that now, many anons will have significantly stronger and warmer feelings towards the site. You guys took us in during our hour of need and gave us home, warmth, comfiness and poni when we needed it and had nowhere else to find any. I may be getting sappy but I'm sure I couldn't have been the only terminally online anon for whom /mlp/ was their literal online home, and /mlpol/ being here genuinely means a lot to me.
>>385707I will say though, being able to upload 5 images and videos with sound is really nice, and I will miss that.
>>385742I may return once in a while. I may not be as /pol/-minded as the common anon, but I enjoy having a place whwere I can dip my toes into politica without seeing BLACKED or obviously paid shills.
If there's an argument, I can see sources. And if it's fake, is ignored. /mlpol/ was always a good fusion, and the fact many came here rather than 8 or u18 means is good for a reason: community and engagement.
I will surely go back to 4, but I'm going to visit this place more often now.
>nearly a week without any news
I mean, it's 4chan of all places so I'm not expecting them to give daily updates on how getting it back is progressing like twitter or reddit would if they went down, plus trying to keep a low profile with how much work they have to do, but at least hearing something would be nice
>>385779You should not have added two weeks if you wanted real answers
>>386085Heil Atlas /)
I was reminded of you a lot friend!
>>385861What shocks me more than anything is how dead smuglo and other /a/s are. Theres nothing happening on these boards. Nobody is going there. Where do i find the thread? I want meat!!!
>>385850I probably already have (You)s I didn't know about with no thread watcher. RIP.
>>386071Dude, just let it be. Is fucking Hiromoot. For all we know, he cashed out and dip, leaving the site in bigger flames that before.
Damn, I never thought I said this, but I wish Moot was here to save us all. But for what is good, he probably got brainwashed while working in Jewgle.
8kun and 8moe are having technical difficulties. Things may get even more intetesting.
>>386172technical difficulties as in too much traffic from 4chan going down, or technical difficulties as in the alt chans are being attacked too?
>>386175Latency/posting issues. The network cascade is incumen in
>>386175Not sure yet. Guess we will find out. The fact that it is happening to both of them is a bit concerning.
>>386175And even if it is only technical difficulties other sites are going to see refugees.
https://boards.4chan.org/j/ now gives 524 error while all other boards (
https://boards.4chan.org/pol/ ,
https://boards.4chan.org/mlp/) give 522
(previously ALL boards returned 522)
>>386197Just timeout errors. Dunno why they don't just turn off the redirect until they fix the problem
>>386200522 means that cuckflare couldn't connect to the server
524 means that cuckflare managed to find connection but got no response
this means that /j/ may be functional to some extent
>>386172>>3861808chan.moe runs on LynxChan, and LynxChan does that. I used to run a small LynxChan instance of my own and I can't imagine how buggy the site must be with 1000+ PPH. Even with a lot less traffic than that I found a pretty horrifying number of weird bugs and edge cases, which led me to seriously wonder if vanilla LynxChan had ever actually been tested by anybody. 8chan.moe's fork seemed like it was pretty heavily customized
meaning it was hard to steal patches from, because boy oh boy does vanilla LynxChan/PenumbraLynx need patching, so it's possible that it holds up a little better than vanilla, but I'm not sure about that.
8kun is running on a customized vichan fork called Infinity which is reasonably well battle tested and I would think should be capable of a lot more PPH than the site currently has, but I'm not sure what kind of load balancing or CDN they have going on these days. Back in the day, the 8ch staff did try to replace Infinity with a clean-slate design called Infinity Next back in the day, but that migration failed and the site quickly reverted because Infinity Next turned out to be way too heavy under load to be usable for 8ch's user base. The original Infinity used to be a big mess of ancient PHP that nobody liked to work on. I'm guessing that's still true, but a lot can change in just about ten years so I can't claim to be an expert on Infinity beyond knowing some historical trivia about it. Might be possible that 8kun's servers aren't as well equipped to handle a load as 8ch's used to be, but every time I've looked /qresearch/ has had a ridiculous amount of totally not bot traffic keeping things warm so I don't know.
The collection of available off-the-shelf imageboard software for the aspiring altchan admin isn't good in my opinion. Every option seems like a bad one for different reasons. I really hope that mlpol's ASPNetChan is better than average. From casual use without any idea what the backend looks like, I feel like it probably is.
[Read more] >>384226few days is too optimistic
>>386211Half of their staff is sure to quit after being doxxed, they have bigger problems than the code.
>>386209Personally while I'm very hopeful for ASPNetChan from a user perspective, the "ASP Net" part would make me very iffy to host something like that myself. But maybe that's just me.
>The collection of available off-the-shelf imageboard software for the aspiring altchan admin isn't good in my opinion.I think part of the issue is just that the existing altchans are all running pretty ancient forks of forks of forks that evolved naturally over the course of time.
An imageboard is not the most complicated thing to develop. But almost nobody will bother spending their free time doing it when at best maybe one or two obscure alts with <10 users total will ever run it, and more likely nobody ever even will. /mlpol/'s case where someone wanted to create an imageboard AND make the software for it AND it had a well defined enough niche to stay relevant and not just fade into total obscurity and shut down - is a pretty rare thing, and then of course you have the problem that the admins are pulling double duty on both administering the entire site and trying to develop on it.
For example, PHP has been out of fashion as a backend language for over a decade by now, and so has ASP.Net for that matter. And I'm not just talking about bloated javascript framework websites, but for example Go is a pretty good language for web backends (really, perhaps the thing Go is best at). And yet the overwhelming majority of chans are still using PHP (except lynxchan which is probably the only "modern" engine from scratch - and is using nodejs of all things).
[Read more] >a week has almost passed
>>386283withdrawal symptoms are getting stronger
>>386283And yet it's still two more weeks
>>386096Should have had entries for two weeks and "two weeks"
>>386283I heard in the last day or so on the IRC that work is still ongoing from one of the mods there. It's not much but it's something.
>>386071Moot is probably working with the feds, because despite how lazy cops are, hacking is a crime.
I think his shitter "durr partying" or whatever post is to get the hackers to put their guard down. Law enforcement doesn't announce they are investigating, they kick your door in when they are done.
>>386299>MootWhy would he? The site isn't even his anymore.
>>386299>Moot is probably working with the fedsAlways was. He's a jew and google gave him a place after he sold to Hiro.
>>386293That's the problem with going a fucking decade between software updates. They can't just update the server and turn the lights back. There's probably layers of deprecated things that need to be updated and replaced. If they would have just done their due diligence then each change would have been easy to do over the years, but they're stuck with a big rat's nest of bullshit to untangle since they waited until things blew up in their face before making a change.
>>386319i doubt its that clear cut. his uncle worked at silver stream media, and he was lusting after some fucking chick.
the whole situation with 4chan feels like under duress to me. and the idea of moot as some kind of le epic glownigger doesnt hold much merrit to me when he wasnt the only creator of 4chan, he was given ownership to keep the feds from booking the owners over troublemakers. it just doesn't fit. he does, however, have some obvious connections, however, given the actual value of 4chan and how much he was paid, I really dont see it as him being controlled op or anything of the sort. 4chan was just a place to talk about video games and anime that got popular. it was a copy cat moot made of some japanese style website that took off. thats not the kind of hallmark of feds, thats bleeding edge stuff. Is he glowie now? sure, he took the exit strategy the glowniggers wanted. if he was really a cuck, or hated us, or what have you, put yourself into his shoes for two minutes. you create this anime website and pay into it with your own money. then some feds and your literal uncle start shitting in your cornflakes and threaten to take it away because some autistic permavergins caught them spending military dollary doos to influence whores and video game reviewers on the interbutts. I have no doubt moot went to japan because the entire fiasco that went on behind closed doors made him absolutely lose all faith in his family. he took his 15 mil, google job (necissary for feds to give him a job if hes going to get started in nippon) and cut ties. hes never been back, so that has to be part of the deal. what kind of attitude is that for a glownigger? most actual glowniggers would never settle for being cut off from their own project forever man. he'd at least show up like bezos does to bully the new person in charge on social media.
[Read more] >>386412and this website will become a barren wasteland if/when they do fix it.
I will be sad when everyone leaves.
>>386412>>386413It's sickening how eager most people are to go back after a bigger scandal than the Fappening/Gamergate shitshow. The new generation is bizarrely attached to the name 4chan, hiro could probably bring it back on xenforo and they'd sign up.
>>386413I was just fine before they came doing my roleplaying game, and I'll be fine after they leave. Let them come, let them go.
>>386214>And I'm not just talking about bloated javascript framework websites, but for example Go is a pretty good language for web backends (really, perhaps the thing Go is best at). And yet the overwhelming majority of chans are still using PHP (except lynxchan which is probably the only "modern" engine from scratch - and is using nodejs of all things).If you want a Go based imageboard, you should look into meguca. It's currently known as shamichan and is a semi-dead project, but scales way better than 8moe or 8kun have shown so far. These are the forks I know about that power active websites.
>https://github.com/zkm2/shamichanhttps://shamiko.org, successor of meguca/a/.
>https://github.com/0-chan-ru/tetucahttps://4.0-chan.ru, lots of russian boards and hosts meguca/pol/ at /xomy/.
>https://github.com/meowmin/megucaNo idea where the site is but very actively developed.
[Read more] >>386414>It's sickening how eager most people are to go back after a bigger scandal than the Fappening/Gamergate shitshowcalling this happening "bigger" than GG implies that we'll see fruits of its story for more than a decade
>XenForoI'm pretty sure it supports anon posting kek
>>386416>not pure Go as a /g/entooman I find this insulting
>>386418GG might have unfortunately been a cultural phenomenon but the 4chan scandals around luggage lad and some other events like /pol/harbor were definitely smaller than the whole site dying while all the memes and dox rumors about the staff were proved correct.
>not pure Go I don't think you can do liveposting without JS.
>>386420>cultural phenomenonfix your website, Abib
>I don't think you can do liveposting without JS.I think one can use Go2JS compiler
also looking at source code I find use of websockets to be unnecessary & dependency on Posgres being strange (many small altchans are fine with sqllite or outright using plaintext)
>>386421lat (bakape) was always using meme tech. He must have been onto something when shamiko can do >1k PPH and feed ~10 liveposts to ~150 users without choking. Compare that to the absolute state of 8kun and 8moe now.
>>386430The demo doesn't look like it has realtime post updates. On a meguca instance you see people typing.
>>386201interesting, could they be using /j/ as a test board of sort for how they're fixing the site?
>>386201>>386441>now 522 on /j/yeah they are probably using their shitty board to test new shitware/patched old shitware
>>384750>>384749>>384746PLEASE BE CAREFUL ANON, a couple faggots(at least 1) frequent here and are deep in that and pony. careful who you are friends with.
>>386414>It's sickening how eager most people are to go backWhile we at /mlp/ are not doing too bad all things considered, there are still tons of things that just don't have a replacement. Most hobby boards like /g/ or /ck/ or /an/ simply don't have an active bunker (unless anons actually migrated to 8moe from all boards, I haven't checked it out yet). And there were certainly a good amount of posters who were regulars on the huge boards like /v/ or /pol/ and actually enjoyed spending time among the huge cascade of garbage going on there, and again there's simply no replacement that's anywhere near as fast right now.
>>386460Some of /ck/ like ponies too. There's a cooking thread in /ub/
>>386461>dude check out this thread that hasn't even had any posts for four days, it's totally gonna be a good replacement for your entire 2000 post per day boardObviously some people here are going to be into various things as well, there have been technical discussions too, you could probably start a /diy/-related thread on /ub/ or even here or something, etc. But it's not at all the same as the entire board itself actually migrating.
Where can I get chink recommendations for my /tea/ now, for example? Probably not here.
>>386464How many legitimate posters do you think /ck/ actually had?
>>386466>this againNigger, I am measuring boards by the actual conversations I was able to have, with real people. Both in generals and outside. The fact that some shillbotspambuzzwords probably existed on the catalog doesn't mean that the actual speed of the real conversations that did happen was all fake or something.
And it certainly had more real posters I was able to talk to than /ub/'s cooking thread has.
>>386467Fair, but cooking is everywhere on the internet, so the blow-back from a sudden loss of /ck/ is negligible; so it is for many boards, and (delightfully) anons are doing their part and making the whole of the internet a much more shitposty place. You can have likewise exchanges in comment sections and more, and if you're doing it right any id's or accounts associated with said comments are are insular to the point of anonymity.
>>386470Yes but I want my bros back. I also don't wanna hunt around the internet for random comment sections or whatever like some kind of kike diaspora, I wanna have a place I can go to.
Maybe /ck/ was not the most unique board, but again /tea/ for example had a good few anons that were fun and actually helpful to chat with, where else am I gonna find a small group of autists who are well-informed on puerh strains and different harvests to give me suggestions? And other boards have it way worse, there is no replacement for /fglt/ or /dpt/ on /g/, or for /3dpg/ or /ohm/ on diy, etc. Yeah sure collectively there are lots of people on the internet that are into tech, linux, 3d printing or electronics respectively, but there is no equivalent place for such discussion. Realistically, my options are basically registering for reddit or some BB forum, and you're insane if you find either of those options to be adequate replacements.
>>386472fuck the jannies on /ck/. Everytime I mention goy slop, I get banned.
Did I insult the janny's favorite food or they trying to protect some food slop company?
>>386414What are you talking about, what scandal? The site simply got hacked because of its old infrastructure, it will be updated and then come back the way it was. I personally don't give a fuck that jannies had their info leaked it doesn't affect me in any way so I don't see why you're implying it should deter me from going back.
Same goes for the fappening/gamergate. Why should anyone care?
>>386540>what scandal?their server had been running software that hadn't been properly maintained (according to the unofficial leak story). In information security this is considered scandalous because it's incomprehensible how a big player like 4chan could be so negligent.
But of course, the unofficial story that every takes for granted isn't true, but that's another discussion
>>386540>then come back the way it was.It will come back but it won't be the same. They'll need to replace so much deprecated stuff that the site will be different. It will be like a decade of small update quirks all crammed into a moment
>>386542I would understand it as a scandal if 4chan was a financial website or something, but it's an anonymous imageboard that doesn't keep any user information except for their IP which is worthless.
Unless you're some kind of /g/ fag hyper-obsessed with security I don't see why random users should be concerned.
>>386545Backend updates. The user-facing website will be the exact same.
>>386547don't you understand?
Everyone who knew that exploit has access to the backend and thus full control over everything: ip addresses and such
then there's the 4chan pass... payment details are linked to identity. But for some reason this wasn't leaked?
By the way, this entire thing is false flag, an inside job, a glowslop from the lowest tier. It's not real.
>>386547Nigger. It's a scandal because they are a website with a very large userbase (allegedly hundreds of thousands) and they got hacked by a skiddie and went down for weeks because of atrocious security. It's not even just "they weren't following high standards", they were literally using software A DECADE out of date. They basically didn't update since moot left.
And it's not just some mumsnet type forum or something either. It's "evil nazi website" 4chan, regular host to various leakers and hacks itself, not to mention its ancient reputation for muh lulz raids and whatnot back in the day. Popular perception might be skewed but you'd still expect it to be regularly targeted by skids looking for infamy, and to be a bit more resilient than that. Honestly, given the info we were given, I'm really very surprised /qa/ of all places were the ones (allegedly) to finally get it.
>>386540>Why should anyone care?Why should anyone care that 4chan's staff hate the userbase, are a mixture of trannies and redditors, have secret ban reasons and geolocation in the mod tools? Are you for real?
>Same goes for the fappening/gamergateTotal nothingburger, thousands of users left the site over moot censoring everything to do with GG in a failed attempt to get gawker pussy.
>>386549The pass could only be bought with crypto. Crypto addresses are public and a hacker knowing that X address corresponds with Y IP is meaningless information.
>>386550You failed to explain why a user should give a fuck. Yes, they had bad security. And?
>>386551>implying the mods hating the userbase is some kind of secret when they've been open about it for 2 decades on IRCNo shit they have geolocation tools. Did you know they could also see all the posts your IP made, on every board? This was public knowledge and everyone knew that.
You nigs need to stop being drama queens. When 4chan is back up every single one of you will go back to it and you will forget why you were even mad at it within the same day.
[Read more] >>386550>Honestly, given the info we were given, I'm really very surprised /qa/ of all places were the ones (allegedly) to finally get it.that's because it glows in the dark
>>386553>cryptoisn't anonymous
monero, maybe
>>386547There are degrees of autism when it comes to updates and safety. There is a massive gulf between being autistically focused on the bleeding edge of security security/staying on top of zero days the moment that they're announced, and going a fucking decade without applying updates and running software that has reached end of life. It would be one thing if gookmoot simply was an update or two or three behind. But his shit had entered end of life years ago.
Running software that has passed end of life is grossly negligent if aren't taking extensive measures to safeguard yourself from evolving threats. An image board isn't something like banking infrastructure, space travel, or systems critical to the preservation of life that justify running ancient but extensively tested codebases, and those aforementioned cases of running old code are supported by teams of software experts that stay abreast of evolving threats and take appropriate measures to safeguard their systems.
>>386553>Did you know they could also see all the posts your IP made, on every board? This was public knowledge and everyone knew that.Except they weren't supposed to be able to see raw IPs and every mod being global is a terrible concept that leads to powertripping and janny cliques. 4chan is the only western imageboard that has either of those things.
>When 4chan is back up every single one of you will go back to it and you will forget why you were even mad at it within the same day.No I won't you stupid nigger, I've been gone from it for years. What exactly am I missing out on, botposts on /v/ and /pol/ and every sfw board being run by troons afraid of the nigger word?
>>386460/g/ was such sausage though. I kind of wonder how many suicides have resulted from 4chan going down, there were a lot of fags on /g/ who just seemed to spend all day bragging how they made so much money at their tech jobs (yet, when pressed, admitted to have nogf and no romantic prospects whatsoever). Without /g/ to blog to, their lives must be very quiet right now....
>>386557>Except they weren't supposed to be able to see raw IPs and every mod being global is a terrible concept that leads to powertripping and janny cliques. 4chan is the only western imageboard that has either of those things.4chan shows you the IP you were posting with in its ban messages. If you have ever played around with Tinyboard on moderator side, it shows user IPs. Of course it's like that.
>>386560>4chan shows you the IP you were posting with in its ban messagesThat doesn't mean it has to be visible to jannies.
>If you have ever played around with Tinyboard on moderator side, it shows user IPsTinyboard hasn't been updated in over a decade. Back then infinity had shifted to only showing hashes to jannies and other IB backends like meguca don't show IPs to staff at all.
>>386553>You failed to explain why a user should give a fuck.I mean, the users are kind of unable to use the website right now as a consequence.
>Yes, they had bad security. And?Yeah sure it's not the end of the world. It's not a scandal in the sense of "they are EVIL" or something. But it's a scandal in the sense of "I can't believe they would actually do that!".
It's a scandal in the same way some celeb being outed for fucking whores or something would be a scandal. Not in the sense that the average person is in any way affected, but in the sense that it was scandalous behaviour.
>>386555>that's because it glows in the darkIf you assume glow-ops then you have to throw away the entire story including the premise of the the hack caused by outdated software in the first place.
[Read more] >>386567I would put this scandal on the level of "Local mma fighter shockingly beaten by school kids"
>>386565> That doesn't mean it has to be visible to jannies.It doesn’t, but it was and we all knew it
> Tinyboard hasn't been updated in over a decade.4chan hasn’t been updated in over a decade.
>>386571A potentially fruitful analogy, provided the MMA fighter wasn't local but had tens to hundreds of thousands of dedicated fans across the world, and had made a whole personality of being a fighter to be reckoned with, and then got beaten by school kids not due to some fluke but in a way that showed he was actually in horrible shape and his entire career had been bravado.
>>386567> If you assume glow-ops then you have to throw away the entire story including the premise of the the hack caused by outdated software in the first place.naturally. Is it so much of a stretch to assume that Sh4rty is run by the same glowniggers that ran the 4chan psyops these last 8 years? They took over in 2017 after Trump won. Now that USAID got cut, they couldn't fund 4chan anymore through their backdoor channels. The hack is them just making up a story to cover their tracks and burn the evidence. 4chan is not coming back. And when it is official that it doesn't, it will prove this theory.
If those glowniggers couldn't have control over 4chan, they decided no one should. And that's why they nuked it. And to replace it, they're running operation Sh4rty. It's funded by the same faction.
Why did they end 4chan though? That's still a mystery. My guess is that someone might be afraid that the papertrail might uncover where the money really came from (USAID). So before someone starts digging, it's best to terminate the operation and switch to the fallback crew (sh4rty). And I would assume that sh4rty's paper trail is much more obscure.
[Read more] >>386580>they couldn't fund 4chan>to replace it, they're running operation Sh4rty. It's funded by the same faction. Huh
Mind you it could well be some sort of psyop and I don't trust the party at all, but I don't get your reasoning there
>>386587>hurr it's dead foreverHow the fuck does a so-called journalist write an article like this and not even ask the site admins for comment?
>>386587>WiredI'm not giving sites like that a single hit.
>>386592Journalism has been dead for about as long as journalism has existed.
>>386581Honestly I think it was just a destabilization technique. Shills were getting to BTFO much too hard, fast, and consistently. I noticed them floating the idea of there that if Anons didn't stop saying so many no no words the "site might get shut down." They were told it already happened once before and just have things worse, but I'm assuming no one from the exodus is still in that department and they're convinced their idea is actually new and will totally work this time. They're probably hoping to quell momentum, demoralize, and steer Anons to places more easily moderated where there isn't an existing culture of speaking the truth about jewry. That and to control the narrative a bit more. They've been desperate to psyop various talking points about Trump and Israel and get White people to go to war.
>>386581covertly funding 4chan had become too risky because of DOGE. If someone would discover that 4chan was funded with federal money, it would be scandal and a massive redpill to normies.
There are two smoking gun ('ish):
1. in 2016 gookmoot was looking for investors, even willing to accept new board members in exchange. After 2017, never again was there mention of money problems and gookmoot went dark
2. exactly 2 weeks after the first quarter of USAID being nuked, 4chan is taken down by teenagers. 2 weeks prior, the site administrators joked about being shut down by DOGE
I mean... there's coincidences and there's (((coincidences)))
If you know what I mean
[Read more] >>386558I would expect people like that to have alternatives knowns, if not prepared already.
>>386624I personally think it's not coming back because it is exactly the type of thing USAID was propping up elsewhere. Also how the moderators there didn't really care about the userbase or were directly hostile to them.
>>386657>I personally think it's not coming backThe time of the altchans has come
>>386580so basically the mods got burned by other glowniggers for being complete niggers not even worth sparing. not shocking at all. to be honest it sounds shockingly reasonable.
>>386624>covertly funding 4chan had become too risky because of DOGE. If someone would discover that 4chan was funded with federal money, it would be scandal and a massive redpill to normies. its already a fact. anyone who thinks 4chan is covered in ad money and passes is retarded. they shouldnt be allowed to have an opinion on any subject if theyre that out of touch with the cost of the site.
>>386661I want 4chan back but not in the hands of any of these retards, and I can't pay for it.
>>3866614chan clones will rise above hyper-focused altchans.
>>386710I like how RapeApe of all fucking people is now the public spokesman for the entire 4chan team (and normified his name lmao)
>>386661This. Now it's decentralized and much harder to control. Anybody saying it's a Total Kike Victory is a shill.
It's time for alt-chans to rise and become the new top dogs.
>>386746Isn't that how many things rise up? A top dog dies by doing a dumb decision, and many alternatives show up, basically replacing it?
Whatever this was the soja men ruining things or a NWO op shooting itself in the foot, now they basically tripled their work.
>>386746/pol/ is now a multicellular organism.
>>386750Yes, it is the cycle of life. 4chan left to rot with decade end of life codes running the site and users hating the jannies/mods for trying to make the site Reddit 2.0. It was only a matter of time until it fall and now the alt-chans are feasting on it's corpse.
I remember anons said when 4chan get taken down, it will be the biggest mistake they ever make. I hope it become true.
It's going to be hard for the glowies to keep track of anons after they become internet nomads.
>>386580You are 1000% correct. They are burning their agents to insulate themselves, aka throwing kiwitrsnnies and the 4chan hackers in jail.
It's even worse than that though. DOGE's AI auditing can see who paid who, across mediums of exchange. You tumbled Bitcoin, paid me, and I cashed it out? AI will say "you paid me."
What happens when investigators tie the donkey show and kiwifarms to O9A, 764, the com, and other underage grooming/blackmail groups? Funded by the CIA and Peter Thiel?
USAID was a story so large in scale and scope, no normies dug through it. What happens when something of the same scale breaks, but it's about a child grooming gang?
>>386624Yes DOGE is what scared them. Very good NOOTICING they joked about doge just before being shut down.
Elon called out JayZ for buying Beyonce's(his wife) album so she topped the country charts. Now apply that to following USAID money around.
Now what happens when they find the CIA is grooming trannies online through the donkey show?
GAME OVER. We are going to see glowniggers do mass hacking campaigns to destroy evidence. Power grids, water plants, banks, retail store sites. They will try to destroy the country to distract from their crimes.
I don't think martial law can be avoided at this point. Nothing can stop what is coming.
>>386756I doubt much is going to happen. These are the same people who walked away from Epstein's child abuse party.
>>386755>>386756This isn't reddit, double-spacing is not necessary
>>386759Uh, you ever heard of paragraphs dude?
>>386758>>386756This. If anything, and if someone has a brain (which I HIGHLY HIGHLY doubt), the only thing they are going to do is sweep this under the rug, maybe (MAYBE) hook 4chan on again with the posts of April 15th deleted, and find the motherfucker "killing himself" for making this huge problem obvious.
>>386760That doesn't explain the linebreaks every line. Do you want people to think you're a mindless bot or not?
>>386760He's literally reddit spacing and his post read like a schizo. It's hard to take his posts seriously.
>>386762Paragraphs are always separated by linebreaks.
>>386661I hope it doesn't come back, mlpol is much comfier. When 4chan comes back, this place will turn into a one pony ghost town again.
>>386766This but also put mlpol and 8chanmoe buildings that look perfectly fine on the sides.
Will 4chan come back?
To be quite honest...
>>386817>>386775Be wary for anything coming back after glowfagots are confirmed involved in taking it down, after glowfaggots were exposed. See the whole 8kun fiasco
>>386828they don't know it still a thing.
>>3867728moe doesn't even have an /mlp/ board. I have been diligently watching among this place and nhnb to see where most of us end up.
>>386882I guess I'm retarded for phone posting. It only shows a handful of boards using the drop down menu on mobile. Thanks anon I've been wacked out in everything I do since losing /mlp/.
>>386885Fair warning 8chan is getting shilled left and right, so it won't be as smooth posting as here. but theres a chunk of /mlp/ there
>>386886I'm just looking for whichever of the three gets the highest congregation of posters from /mlp/. All 4 sites are different. For instance it feels like 4chan was the only one where people posted greentext stories which was my main thing. Especially long form.
>>386888Understandable, I've seen a sliver of crossposting greens, bots, and art but it makes it harder if you're a content creator that you gotta jump through hoops for (You)s and without the engagement a lot of content fags just fade away
>>386889I can live without the (you)s. I just need to know that wherever I'm posting SOMEONE is interacting with it somehow. Wherever that is. Even if it means giving up on Green and moving into regular prose on fimfic. Green is my fucking lifeblood and honestly the hardest part about losing the board/site.
>>386890Be the change you want to see.
A long time ago I did greens for a one off thread which became a niche general. It was too niche to survive without greens, and eventually more writefags showed up to take up the torch. Now all the writefags from that general are retired, so it's back to being greenless and the general died off.
>>386888So, you're going to sit on the sidelines and let the sites compete for your affection?
Sounds like bitch-strategy to me
>>386927>Is that so?Sure looks like it from where I stand
>>386927Saying "we're not dead" while the site is still down and all we hear is "Uh... yeah we're working on it probably and it'll be back, uh, sometime, maybe!" is not going to cut it for much longer.
>>386927And I hope it stay dead. Fuck the jannies, fuck the 15 minute wait to reply, and fuck the global no pony rule.
>>386930Meh, it hasn't even been two weeks yet. There's a big difference between taking like a month to update everything and being literally dead forever.
I'm not saying it won't die, I'm just saying you can't really conclude anything yet. Give it a month or two.
>>386927Even if it comes back, it will never be the same.
>>386927hiro's probably trying to post ANYTHING just to keep the community informed that they didn't run with
money hot pockets
alternatively 4chan tomorrow
>>386934>the third era of 4chan is upon us >>386933There is only a limited amount of sitting around waiting for them with the only updates being vague "soon" bullshit that I will tolerate before I decide to just find a better option.
>>386936>before I decide to find a better optionWell no shit, you're here now aren't you? If that's what's stopping you then there's no need to wait.
>>386937If the 1st of May rolls around and all I still hear is "just wait" and "soon" that is it.
>>386938That is what? What are you gonna do?
Post on an altchan? Again, you're here now. Post on another altchan? Where, and why aren't you posting there now anyway?
Or are you gonna shoot up hiro's house or something?
>>386934This, it's going to be 100% more worse. They're going to hire their new janny tranny team and they just can't wait to start handing out bans to 4chan chuds.
>>386940That is their deadline when I stop trying to hold their community together for them and go find something else.
>>386941/tv/ is probably gonna buck break them with sneedcore music
>4chan chuds4chud
>>386942The fuck are you talking about schizo
>>386927Archived link to the article.
https://archive.is/bNQVzThe faggot in this article doesn't even try to substantiate why 4chan is dead or wouldn't come back up. He declares it gone forever and says that's a good thing because muh evil racist memes, and says that imageboards like it serve no purpose for Internet counterculture because muh orange/rocket man turned Twitter into 4chan.
>>386946It's not complicated. 1st of May is the deadline I am giving them for when I stop trying to hold their shit together and move on to something else.
>>386948Whose shit are you holding together, retard
>>3869504chan. Specifically /pol/ but I'll take anyone.
>>386951/pol/ is not being held together. Medications.
>>386953Where do you think you are?
>>386954On /mlp/
Which is also being held together by Lotus and Pupper et al., not you
And where you are also posting before May 1st
>>386951>>386948How are you "holding it together"? What are you trying to say? What is it that you are doing?
>>386956My being here to talk to people who have found this place, creating threads for them to use, reassuring them on 4chan coming back, you know...
>>386959That benefits /mlpol/ and other altchans more than anything else. It's hardly "holding 4chan's shit together".
>>386960Yes I'm fine. I am just going to take a limited amount of bullshit.
>>386957Correct. Medications immediately, don't make me repeat myself even more.
>>386959>My being hereSo already having moved on from 4chan even before your deadline.
>>386963Nobody can go to 4chan right now retard.
>>386965Then tell us faggot. How are you using 4chan?