Welcome to /mlpol/ weary travellers. In this thread I will collect what I can find about the 4chan hack and try to provide a base camp for those lost 4nons that have managed to find their way here. Feel free to add anything you know or swap stories as well. The following is roughly gathered to ensure it is saved.
kiwifarms threads: https://kiwifarms.st/threads/4chan.37222/page-421#post-21099990
janny lists
https://kiwifarms.st/threads/4chan.37222/page-474#post-21102637
yotsuba sauce
https://kiwifarms.st/threads/4chan.37222/page-475#post-21102680
Hiro on twitter: https://xcancel.com/4chan/status/1912242601102844078
https://x.com/4chan/status/1912242601102844078
Commit messages on 4chan repo:
https://files.catbox.moe/yypkoa.txt
Potential information sources you may keep an eye on:
4chan's IRC channel on Rizon
Hiro's 4chan twitter: https://x.com/4chan
Sun article tracking the incident: https://www.the-sun.com/tech/14029069/4chan-down-updates-controversial-website-hacking/
Sinister/pol/: https://leftypol.org/
Know your meme article: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/april-2025-4chan-sharty-hack-and-janitor-email-leak
Sharty: https://www.soyjak.st/news/thread/4104.html
4chan itself of course: https://boards.4chan.org/
NHNB: https://nhnb.org/fim/res/19935.html
Is it down: https://www.isitdownrightnow.com/4chan.org.html
reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1jzoofg/4chan_hacked_taken_down_emails_and_ips_leaked/
The Official thread by the man of the hour himself over on SoyJack.st: https://www.soyjak.st/soy/thread/10615723.html
The sharty's own summary of events: https://wiki.soyjak.st/The_Great_Cuckset
Janny logs: https://bvll.neocities.org/j/
/mlpol/ - My Little Politics
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>>385640
Knowing the 2017 April Fools joke qualifies you as an oldfag? I guess I've graduated
Also there's no way any Anons with even a slight knowledge of the existence of altchans don't know about this place, half of the ghostposts on desu mentioning them are about here and the other half are about NHNB
Knowing the 2017 April Fools joke qualifies you as an oldfag? I guess I've graduated
Also there's no way any Anons with even a slight knowledge of the existence of altchans don't know about this place, half of the ghostposts on desu mentioning them are about here and the other half are about NHNB
>>385643
>never been to 8chan
>try to check it out
>security blocker hates it
yeah, I think I'm just gonna stay on here and on NHNB
>never been to 8chan
>try to check it out
>security blocker hates it
yeah, I think I'm just gonna stay on here and on NHNB
>>385643
I have so many thoughts on this.
If anons want to chase what's popular, then it doesn't matter if 'here' is popular, they're not welcome, at least until they've checked their attitude.
I have so many thoughts on this.
If anons want to chase what's popular, then it doesn't matter if 'here' is popular, they're not welcome, at least until they've checked their attitude.
Spoonfeeding denied, come back when you've read the leaks.
NEXT
NEXT
You made the statement, and an incredibly vague one at that
The burden of proof rests on you
The burden of proof rests on you
>>385655
Ask me how many linky threads there are.
Not on about linky in particular, just saying there aren't 12 threads. Its weird, for a pony so "embraced by 4chan"
Ask me how many linky threads there are.
Not on about linky in particular, just saying there aren't 12 threads. Its weird, for a pony so "embraced by 4chan"
>>385652
I've been on both ends. When 8chan was a giant I barely used 4chan, having to wade through shit just to get anything meaningful going sucked. But after 8chan was killed by glows the resurrections and all alts since have been barren in comparison after anons lost any faith in anything with 8. I'm not talking about 8moe which was one of the copycats after 8chan->8kun
By the time I was a regular on 4chan again, the /mlpol/ merge happened and I had gotten used to filtering out a lot of the noise and I was there for a lot of the early energy. But over time I visited 4chan more and mlpol less to be involved in whats currently going on 4chan was just faster for getting any info, reaction, discussion. Even though there was a lot of butting heads, it was worth the trade off to make something out of that chaos.
For /mlp/ it meant prompt threads in a spur of the moment like when I was inspired by bootleg ponies that was one of the threads you'd never see on mlpol, generals with lots of content, show discussion, just things to talk about. But now I generally hate that people have stopped trying, coom dominates or mindless crap I feel nothing for. The board was a shadow of what it was, and there's no sign of everyone being on the same page with the bunkers. Like nhnb is the anti-thesis of the freedom that I liked but some people on /mlp/ think it's the better option even permanently.
I've been on both ends. When 8chan was a giant I barely used 4chan, having to wade through shit just to get anything meaningful going sucked. But after 8chan was killed by glows the resurrections and all alts since have been barren in comparison after anons lost any faith in anything with 8. I'm not talking about 8moe which was one of the copycats after 8chan->8kun
By the time I was a regular on 4chan again, the /mlpol/ merge happened and I had gotten used to filtering out a lot of the noise and I was there for a lot of the early energy. But over time I visited 4chan more and mlpol less to be involved in whats currently going on 4chan was just faster for getting any info, reaction, discussion. Even though there was a lot of butting heads, it was worth the trade off to make something out of that chaos.
For /mlp/ it meant prompt threads in a spur of the moment like when I was inspired by bootleg ponies that was one of the threads you'd never see on mlpol, generals with lots of content, show discussion, just things to talk about. But now I generally hate that people have stopped trying, coom dominates or mindless crap I feel nothing for. The board was a shadow of what it was, and there's no sign of everyone being on the same page with the bunkers. Like nhnb is the anti-thesis of the freedom that I liked but some people on /mlp/ think it's the better option even permanently.
>>385672
I mean coomposts are dopamine crack, so it's always been this way, not just 4chan, mlpol is equally 'bad' in this context. The faster posting can be addictive, but so can unspoilered porn jacking off or gooning.
I've been through the gamut of boards being sfw and nsfw, with overbearing puritan mods on some of 8chan's many original boards or the absolute rule breaking shit that won't get deleted on /mlp/ after being reported over and over with obvious bias making everyone hate the board or hate the users for championing one side of the bias or another. And now that there's info that private reasons mods can add notes to ignore reports or strongarm bans it just makes it worse.
I mean coomposts are dopamine crack, so it's always been this way, not just 4chan, mlpol is equally 'bad' in this context. The faster posting can be addictive, but so can unspoilered porn jacking off or gooning.
I've been through the gamut of boards being sfw and nsfw, with overbearing puritan mods on some of 8chan's many original boards or the absolute rule breaking shit that won't get deleted on /mlp/ after being reported over and over with obvious bias making everyone hate the board or hate the users for championing one side of the bias or another. And now that there's info that private reasons mods can add notes to ignore reports or strongarm bans it just makes it worse.
>>385667
Too many anons want to become the niggers they fight.they are jealous of their gayop jannie bs instead of apalled
Too many anons want to become the niggers they fight.they are jealous of their gayop jannie bs instead of apalled
>>385624
Nobody from /fg/ or isekai is in there bro. Theres threads from 2019. This boards /a/ is basically /po/
Nobody from /fg/ or isekai is in there bro. Theres threads from 2019. This boards /a/ is basically /po/
quality > quantity imo
I'd rather have a community of real and genuine anons than endless spam.
I'd rather have a community of real and genuine anons than endless spam.
>>385679
It's true./a/ is the "too little, too late" effort toward a former staff member's grand scheme. The idea was to TRY to make a pony site receptible to weebs. In the end, he is on to making silly amounts of money and no one cares about anime.
It's true./a/ is the "too little, too late" effort toward a former staff member's grand scheme. The idea was to TRY to make a pony site receptible to weebs. In the end, he is on to making silly amounts of money and no one cares about anime.
I've only ever used 4chan and /mlp/ and I used it because it was the best place to talk with fan of the show about the show and to find stuff that was created without needing a stupid fucking sign-in and I could call out faggots and niggers for what they were
others might have hated it but I liked the general threads because after the show ended there wasn't enough going on to sustain discussions and it was a good place for fans of specific characters to go to specific threads and show off any green, art or music they made, and the spirit of the fandom was kept alive because of the rewatch streams and the anniversary streams, I don't see us being able to congregate like that if we're scattered to these alts
I don't know when 4chan will be back, but I doubt it'll be gone for long, and when it's back, if it's back to it's normal self, I'm going back to /mlp/, and if it's not back to it's normal self I'm not even sure if I'll stay around here if it won't feel like the fandom with how dead it feels
others might have hated it but I liked the general threads because after the show ended there wasn't enough going on to sustain discussions and it was a good place for fans of specific characters to go to specific threads and show off any green, art or music they made, and the spirit of the fandom was kept alive because of the rewatch streams and the anniversary streams, I don't see us being able to congregate like that if we're scattered to these alts
I don't know when 4chan will be back, but I doubt it'll be gone for long, and when it's back, if it's back to it's normal self, I'm going back to /mlp/, and if it's not back to it's normal self I'm not even sure if I'll stay around here if it won't feel like the fandom with how dead it feels
>>385703
Hit the nail on the head, exactly how I feel too. It just isn't the same here, and it's very lonely.
Hit the nail on the head, exactly how I feel too. It just isn't the same here, and it's very lonely.
>>385707
Also, I was in the middle of a discussion about Trixie before the site went down, I really wanted to see to the end of the discussion.
Also, I was in the middle of a discussion about Trixie before the site went down, I really wanted to see to the end of the discussion.
>>385703
Honestly a break from doom scrolling the chans sounds healthy but my life situation prevents me from doing anything productive for 10 moar days
Honestly a break from doom scrolling the chans sounds healthy but my life situation prevents me from doing anything productive for 10 moar days
>>385652
It's not about "popularity" as an abstract metric, it's about having more stuff to talk about. It's nice when you wake up and most of the threads you were watching have something to reply to. It's less nice when you wake up and most of the threads you were watching have between 0 and 3 replies, and none of them are relevant to any discussions you were involved in so you close the site again and that's the limit of your engagement this time.
Mind you /mlpol/ is actually pretty good right now. It's a decent chunk of the /mlp/ activity and has enough stuff going on to actually self-sustain a bunch of conversations, it's nice. But there's still currently less to talk about than there used to be on /mlp/.
>inb4 it's all artificial mod bait shill bot janny spam!!
Even just taking a couple of generals I was a regular in, which have set up bunkers either here or on nhnb too (and even taking into account both for those who have threads on both), there's some that used to get easily 20-50 posts overnight and that now get 5-10 or less.
It's not about "popularity" as an abstract metric, it's about having more stuff to talk about. It's nice when you wake up and most of the threads you were watching have something to reply to. It's less nice when you wake up and most of the threads you were watching have between 0 and 3 replies, and none of them are relevant to any discussions you were involved in so you close the site again and that's the limit of your engagement this time.
Mind you /mlpol/ is actually pretty good right now. It's a decent chunk of the /mlp/ activity and has enough stuff going on to actually self-sustain a bunch of conversations, it's nice. But there's still currently less to talk about than there used to be on /mlp/.
>inb4 it's all artificial mod bait shill bot janny spam!!
Even just taking a couple of generals I was a regular in, which have set up bunkers either here or on nhnb too (and even taking into account both for those who have threads on both), there's some that used to get easily 20-50 posts overnight and that now get 5-10 or less.
>>385727
this
I don't give a shit about popularity, I don't care about schizo rants about how artificial mod spam janny fag whatever shit, I want to be in a place where it feels like discussion happens
this
I don't give a shit about popularity, I don't care about schizo rants about how artificial mod spam janny fag whatever shit, I want to be in a place where it feels like discussion happens
I may be in minority here, however once 4chan goes back I feel like I will try to stick around, I like Anons in here (even if they only post once a day) so I kind of wish to give back to the folks that help me during this harsh time of refuge.
>>385742
oh don't get me wrong, when 4chan does come back I am going back there, but this place is good and I'll definitely check in more regularly
oh don't get me wrong, when 4chan does come back I am going back there, but this place is good and I'll definitely check in more regularly
>>385742
>I may be in minority here
not really, I also want to sneedpost here
altchans are fun to use when their admins aren't fucking with its userbase
>I may be in minority here
not really, I also want to sneedpost here
altchans are fun to use when their admins aren't fucking with its userbase
I will forever stand by my sentiments that the mods and literal tranny jannies deserve it.
It didn't cross my mind, but looking back it's surprising how this kind of thing didn't happen sooner.
It didn't cross my mind, but looking back it's surprising how this kind of thing didn't happen sooner.
>>385742
Definitely this. I honestly even kind of regret not coming here more in the past, this place is cool.
In my defense up till now every time I'd check in every couple of years or so it felt so slow that it really felt like there was nothing to talk about. I guess I'm just not in the right altchan mindset where you visit once every 3-6 months, reply to a bunch of threads, leave, and in half a year come back and check if anyone's replied. It feels odd. To the seasoned altchan browsing anons, how often do you actually get sustained conversations when replying to months-old posts like that? It's just not the same if you're talking into the void and the original anon won't even bother seeing your reply.
Also the lack of a thread watcher meant I'd have to manually check back every few months or keep some tabs permanently open, so in the end even though I tried a couple of times I never bothered to become a regular here.
Hopefully now with at least a few more anons like us sticking around things might remain at least slightly more dynamic. And if Pupper is really working on a thread watcher that'd be very big. But either way I'll make a conscious effort again to try checking in a bit more often regardless.
Definitely this. I honestly even kind of regret not coming here more in the past, this place is cool.
In my defense up till now every time I'd check in every couple of years or so it felt so slow that it really felt like there was nothing to talk about. I guess I'm just not in the right altchan mindset where you visit once every 3-6 months, reply to a bunch of threads, leave, and in half a year come back and check if anyone's replied. It feels odd. To the seasoned altchan browsing anons, how often do you actually get sustained conversations when replying to months-old posts like that? It's just not the same if you're talking into the void and the original anon won't even bother seeing your reply.
Also the lack of a thread watcher meant I'd have to manually check back every few months or keep some tabs permanently open, so in the end even though I tried a couple of times I never bothered to become a regular here.
Hopefully now with at least a few more anons like us sticking around things might remain at least slightly more dynamic. And if Pupper is really working on a thread watcher that'd be very big. But either way I'll make a conscious effort again to try checking in a bit more often regardless.
>>385850
There's no need to apologize anon, it HAS been dead as shit. A chan board is nothing without posters, and for a while now there's been ill enough posters to count on one hand. I'm astonished (and grateful on levels you may never understand unless you attend a con and get some of the free food) we're having this exchange. Greet the world with open arms, as Polites would say
There's no need to apologize anon, it HAS been dead as shit. A chan board is nothing without posters, and for a while now there's been ill enough posters to count on one hand. I'm astonished (and grateful on levels you may never understand unless you attend a con and get some of the free food) we're having this exchange. Greet the world with open arms, as Polites would say
>>385853
Yeah, I getcha.
I sincerely hope that the simple explanation for this is that it was born of an April fool's joke, and that, like myself, many checked it out but ultimately had no reason to make it their second home or anything like that, and so it was left to languish as an obscure altchan and of course inactivity begets inactivity as those who found it interesting but weren't super dedicated to sticking around also began dropping off as activity tapered off.
And if that's true, in turn I equally hope that now, many anons will have significantly stronger and warmer feelings towards the site. You guys took us in during our hour of need and gave us home, warmth, comfiness and poni when we needed it and had nowhere else to find any. I may be getting sappy but I'm sure I couldn't have been the only terminally online anon for whom /mlp/ was their literal online home, and /mlpol/ being here genuinely means a lot to me.
Yeah, I getcha.
I sincerely hope that the simple explanation for this is that it was born of an April fool's joke, and that, like myself, many checked it out but ultimately had no reason to make it their second home or anything like that, and so it was left to languish as an obscure altchan and of course inactivity begets inactivity as those who found it interesting but weren't super dedicated to sticking around also began dropping off as activity tapered off.
And if that's true, in turn I equally hope that now, many anons will have significantly stronger and warmer feelings towards the site. You guys took us in during our hour of need and gave us home, warmth, comfiness and poni when we needed it and had nowhere else to find any. I may be getting sappy but I'm sure I couldn't have been the only terminally online anon for whom /mlp/ was their literal online home, and /mlpol/ being here genuinely means a lot to me.
>>385707
I will say though, being able to upload 5 images and videos with sound is really nice, and I will miss that.
I will say though, being able to upload 5 images and videos with sound is really nice, and I will miss that.
>>385742
I may return once in a while. I may not be as /pol/-minded as the common anon, but I enjoy having a place whwere I can dip my toes into politica without seeing BLACKED or obviously paid shills.
If there's an argument, I can see sources. And if it's fake, is ignored. /mlpol/ was always a good fusion, and the fact many came here rather than 8 or u18 means is good for a reason: community and engagement.
I will surely go back to 4, but I'm going to visit this place more often now.
I may return once in a while. I may not be as /pol/-minded as the common anon, but I enjoy having a place whwere I can dip my toes into politica without seeing BLACKED or obviously paid shills.
If there's an argument, I can see sources. And if it's fake, is ignored. /mlpol/ was always a good fusion, and the fact many came here rather than 8 or u18 means is good for a reason: community and engagement.
I will surely go back to 4, but I'm going to visit this place more often now.
>nearly a week without any news
I mean, it's 4chan of all places so I'm not expecting them to give daily updates on how getting it back is progressing like twitter or reddit would if they went down, plus trying to keep a low profile with how much work they have to do, but at least hearing something would be nice
I mean, it's 4chan of all places so I'm not expecting them to give daily updates on how getting it back is progressing like twitter or reddit would if they went down, plus trying to keep a low profile with how much work they have to do, but at least hearing something would be nice
>>385861
What shocks me more than anything is how dead smuglo and other /a/s are. Theres nothing happening on these boards. Nobody is going there. Where do i find the thread? I want meat!!!
What shocks me more than anything is how dead smuglo and other /a/s are. Theres nothing happening on these boards. Nobody is going there. Where do i find the thread? I want meat!!!
>>386071
Dude, just let it be. Is fucking Hiromoot. For all we know, he cashed out and dip, leaving the site in bigger flames that before.
Damn, I never thought I said this, but I wish Moot was here to save us all. But for what is good, he probably got brainwashed while working in Jewgle.
Dude, just let it be. Is fucking Hiromoot. For all we know, he cashed out and dip, leaving the site in bigger flames that before.
Damn, I never thought I said this, but I wish Moot was here to save us all. But for what is good, he probably got brainwashed while working in Jewgle.
8kun and 8moe are having technical difficulties. Things may get even more intetesting.
![[concerned rattling].png](/images/src/B0B401E7885B3F6253734117E632337E-252863.png)
>>386172
technical difficulties as in too much traffic from 4chan going down, or technical difficulties as in the alt chans are being attacked too?
technical difficulties as in too much traffic from 4chan going down, or technical difficulties as in the alt chans are being attacked too?
>>386175
Not sure yet. Guess we will find out. The fact that it is happening to both of them is a bit concerning.
Not sure yet. Guess we will find out. The fact that it is happening to both of them is a bit concerning.
https://boards.4chan.org/j/ now gives 524 error while all other boards (https://boards.4chan.org/pol/ , https://boards.4chan.org/mlp/) give 522
(previously ALL boards returned 522)
(previously ALL boards returned 522)
>>386197
Just timeout errors. Dunno why they don't just turn off the redirect until they fix the problem
Just timeout errors. Dunno why they don't just turn off the redirect until they fix the problem
>>386200
522 means that cuckflare couldn't connect to the server
524 means that cuckflare managed to find connection but got no response
this means that /j/ may be functional to some extent
522 means that cuckflare couldn't connect to the server
524 means that cuckflare managed to find connection but got no response
this means that /j/ may be functional to some extent
>>386172
>>386180
8chan.moe runs on LynxChan, and LynxChan does that. I used to run a small LynxChan instance of my own and I can't imagine how buggy the site must be with 1000+ PPH. Even with a lot less traffic than that I found a pretty horrifying number of weird bugs and edge cases, which led me to seriously wonder if vanilla LynxChan had ever actually been tested by anybody. 8chan.moe's fork seemed like it was pretty heavily customized meaning it was hard to steal patches from, because boy oh boy does vanilla LynxChan/PenumbraLynx need patching, so it's possible that it holds up a little better than vanilla, but I'm not sure about that.
8kun is running on a customized vichan fork called Infinity which is reasonably well battle tested and I would think should be capable of a lot more PPH than the site currently has, but I'm not sure what kind of load balancing or CDN they have going on these days. Back in the day, the 8ch staff did try to replace Infinity with a clean-slate design called Infinity Next back in the day, but that migration failed and the site quickly reverted because Infinity Next turned out to be way too heavy under load to be usable for 8ch's user base. The original Infinity used to be a big mess of ancient PHP that nobody liked to work on. I'm guessing that's still true, but a lot can change in just about ten years so I can't claim to be an expert on Infinity beyond knowing some historical trivia about it. Might be possible that 8kun's servers aren't as well equipped to handle a load as 8ch's used to be, but every time I've looked /qresearch/ has had a ridiculous amount of totally not bot traffic keeping things warm so I don't know.
The collection of available off-the-shelf imageboard software for the aspiring altchan admin isn't good in my opinion. Every option seems like a bad one for different reasons. I really hope that mlpol's ASPNetChan is better than average. From casual use without any idea what the backend looks like, I feel like it probably is.
>>386180
8chan.moe runs on LynxChan, and LynxChan does that. I used to run a small LynxChan instance of my own and I can't imagine how buggy the site must be with 1000+ PPH. Even with a lot less traffic than that I found a pretty horrifying number of weird bugs and edge cases, which led me to seriously wonder if vanilla LynxChan had ever actually been tested by anybody. 8chan.moe's fork seemed like it was pretty heavily customized meaning it was hard to steal patches from, because boy oh boy does vanilla LynxChan/PenumbraLynx need patching, so it's possible that it holds up a little better than vanilla, but I'm not sure about that.
8kun is running on a customized vichan fork called Infinity which is reasonably well battle tested and I would think should be capable of a lot more PPH than the site currently has, but I'm not sure what kind of load balancing or CDN they have going on these days. Back in the day, the 8ch staff did try to replace Infinity with a clean-slate design called Infinity Next back in the day, but that migration failed and the site quickly reverted because Infinity Next turned out to be way too heavy under load to be usable for 8ch's user base. The original Infinity used to be a big mess of ancient PHP that nobody liked to work on. I'm guessing that's still true, but a lot can change in just about ten years so I can't claim to be an expert on Infinity beyond knowing some historical trivia about it. Might be possible that 8kun's servers aren't as well equipped to handle a load as 8ch's used to be, but every time I've looked /qresearch/ has had a ridiculous amount of totally not bot traffic keeping things warm so I don't know.
The collection of available off-the-shelf imageboard software for the aspiring altchan admin isn't good in my opinion. Every option seems like a bad one for different reasons. I really hope that mlpol's ASPNetChan is better than average. From casual use without any idea what the backend looks like, I feel like it probably is.
>>386211
Half of their staff is sure to quit after being doxxed, they have bigger problems than the code.
Half of their staff is sure to quit after being doxxed, they have bigger problems than the code.
>>386209
Personally while I'm very hopeful for ASPNetChan from a user perspective, the "ASP Net" part would make me very iffy to host something like that myself. But maybe that's just me.
>The collection of available off-the-shelf imageboard software for the aspiring altchan admin isn't good in my opinion.
I think part of the issue is just that the existing altchans are all running pretty ancient forks of forks of forks that evolved naturally over the course of time.
An imageboard is not the most complicated thing to develop. But almost nobody will bother spending their free time doing it when at best maybe one or two obscure alts with <10 users total will ever run it, and more likely nobody ever even will. /mlpol/'s case where someone wanted to create an imageboard AND make the software for it AND it had a well defined enough niche to stay relevant and not just fade into total obscurity and shut down - is a pretty rare thing, and then of course you have the problem that the admins are pulling double duty on both administering the entire site and trying to develop on it.
For example, PHP has been out of fashion as a backend language for over a decade by now, and so has ASP.Net for that matter. And I'm not just talking about bloated javascript framework websites, but for example Go is a pretty good language for web backends (really, perhaps the thing Go is best at). And yet the overwhelming majority of chans are still using PHP (except lynxchan which is probably the only "modern" engine from scratch - and is using nodejs of all things).
Personally while I'm very hopeful for ASPNetChan from a user perspective, the "ASP Net" part would make me very iffy to host something like that myself. But maybe that's just me.
>The collection of available off-the-shelf imageboard software for the aspiring altchan admin isn't good in my opinion.
I think part of the issue is just that the existing altchans are all running pretty ancient forks of forks of forks that evolved naturally over the course of time.
An imageboard is not the most complicated thing to develop. But almost nobody will bother spending their free time doing it when at best maybe one or two obscure alts with <10 users total will ever run it, and more likely nobody ever even will. /mlpol/'s case where someone wanted to create an imageboard AND make the software for it AND it had a well defined enough niche to stay relevant and not just fade into total obscurity and shut down - is a pretty rare thing, and then of course you have the problem that the admins are pulling double duty on both administering the entire site and trying to develop on it.
For example, PHP has been out of fashion as a backend language for over a decade by now, and so has ASP.Net for that matter. And I'm not just talking about bloated javascript framework websites, but for example Go is a pretty good language for web backends (really, perhaps the thing Go is best at). And yet the overwhelming majority of chans are still using PHP (except lynxchan which is probably the only "modern" engine from scratch - and is using nodejs of all things).
>>386283
I heard in the last day or so on the IRC that work is still ongoing from one of the mods there. It's not much but it's something.
I heard in the last day or so on the IRC that work is still ongoing from one of the mods there. It's not much but it's something.
>>386071
Moot is probably working with the feds, because despite how lazy cops are, hacking is a crime.
I think his shitter "durr partying" or whatever post is to get the hackers to put their guard down. Law enforcement doesn't announce they are investigating, they kick your door in when they are done.
Moot is probably working with the feds, because despite how lazy cops are, hacking is a crime.
I think his shitter "durr partying" or whatever post is to get the hackers to put their guard down. Law enforcement doesn't announce they are investigating, they kick your door in when they are done.
>>386299
>Moot is probably working with the feds
Always was. He's a jew and google gave him a place after he sold to Hiro.
>Moot is probably working with the feds
Always was. He's a jew and google gave him a place after he sold to Hiro.
>>386293
That's the problem with going a fucking decade between software updates. They can't just update the server and turn the lights back. There's probably layers of deprecated things that need to be updated and replaced. If they would have just done their due diligence then each change would have been easy to do over the years, but they're stuck with a big rat's nest of bullshit to untangle since they waited until things blew up in their face before making a change.
That's the problem with going a fucking decade between software updates. They can't just update the server and turn the lights back. There's probably layers of deprecated things that need to be updated and replaced. If they would have just done their due diligence then each change would have been easy to do over the years, but they're stuck with a big rat's nest of bullshit to untangle since they waited until things blew up in their face before making a change.
>>386319
i doubt its that clear cut. his uncle worked at silver stream media, and he was lusting after some fucking chick.
the whole situation with 4chan feels like under duress to me. and the idea of moot as some kind of le epic glownigger doesnt hold much merrit to me when he wasnt the only creator of 4chan, he was given ownership to keep the feds from booking the owners over troublemakers. it just doesn't fit. he does, however, have some obvious connections, however, given the actual value of 4chan and how much he was paid, I really dont see it as him being controlled op or anything of the sort. 4chan was just a place to talk about video games and anime that got popular. it was a copy cat moot made of some japanese style website that took off. thats not the kind of hallmark of feds, thats bleeding edge stuff. Is he glowie now? sure, he took the exit strategy the glowniggers wanted. if he was really a cuck, or hated us, or what have you, put yourself into his shoes for two minutes. you create this anime website and pay into it with your own money. then some feds and your literal uncle start shitting in your cornflakes and threaten to take it away because some autistic permavergins caught them spending military dollary doos to influence whores and video game reviewers on the interbutts. I have no doubt moot went to japan because the entire fiasco that went on behind closed doors made him absolutely lose all faith in his family. he took his 15 mil, google job (necissary for feds to give him a job if hes going to get started in nippon) and cut ties. hes never been back, so that has to be part of the deal. what kind of attitude is that for a glownigger? most actual glowniggers would never settle for being cut off from their own project forever man. he'd at least show up like bezos does to bully the new person in charge on social media.
i doubt its that clear cut. his uncle worked at silver stream media, and he was lusting after some fucking chick.
the whole situation with 4chan feels like under duress to me. and the idea of moot as some kind of le epic glownigger doesnt hold much merrit to me when he wasnt the only creator of 4chan, he was given ownership to keep the feds from booking the owners over troublemakers. it just doesn't fit. he does, however, have some obvious connections, however, given the actual value of 4chan and how much he was paid, I really dont see it as him being controlled op or anything of the sort. 4chan was just a place to talk about video games and anime that got popular. it was a copy cat moot made of some japanese style website that took off. thats not the kind of hallmark of feds, thats bleeding edge stuff. Is he glowie now? sure, he took the exit strategy the glowniggers wanted. if he was really a cuck, or hated us, or what have you, put yourself into his shoes for two minutes. you create this anime website and pay into it with your own money. then some feds and your literal uncle start shitting in your cornflakes and threaten to take it away because some autistic permavergins caught them spending military dollary doos to influence whores and video game reviewers on the interbutts. I have no doubt moot went to japan because the entire fiasco that went on behind closed doors made him absolutely lose all faith in his family. he took his 15 mil, google job (necissary for feds to give him a job if hes going to get started in nippon) and cut ties. hes never been back, so that has to be part of the deal. what kind of attitude is that for a glownigger? most actual glowniggers would never settle for being cut off from their own project forever man. he'd at least show up like bezos does to bully the new person in charge on social media.
>>386412
and this website will become a barren wasteland if/when they do fix it.
I will be sad when everyone leaves.
and this website will become a barren wasteland if/when they do fix it.
I will be sad when everyone leaves.
>>386413
I was just fine before they came doing my roleplaying game, and I'll be fine after they leave. Let them come, let them go.
I was just fine before they came doing my roleplaying game, and I'll be fine after they leave. Let them come, let them go.
>>386214
>And I'm not just talking about bloated javascript framework websites, but for example Go is a pretty good language for web backends (really, perhaps the thing Go is best at). And yet the overwhelming majority of chans are still using PHP (except lynxchan which is probably the only "modern" engine from scratch - and is using nodejs of all things).
If you want a Go based imageboard, you should look into meguca. It's currently known as shamichan and is a semi-dead project, but scales way better than 8moe or 8kun have shown so far. These are the forks I know about that power active websites.
>https://github.com/zkm2/shamichan
https://shamiko.org, successor of meguca/a/.
>https://github.com/0-chan-ru/tetuca
https://4.0-chan.ru, lots of russian boards and hosts meguca/pol/ at /xomy/.
>https://github.com/meowmin/meguca
No idea where the site is but very actively developed.
>And I'm not just talking about bloated javascript framework websites, but for example Go is a pretty good language for web backends (really, perhaps the thing Go is best at). And yet the overwhelming majority of chans are still using PHP (except lynxchan which is probably the only "modern" engine from scratch - and is using nodejs of all things).
If you want a Go based imageboard, you should look into meguca. It's currently known as shamichan and is a semi-dead project, but scales way better than 8moe or 8kun have shown so far. These are the forks I know about that power active websites.
>https://github.com/zkm2/shamichan
https://shamiko.org, successor of meguca/a/.
>https://github.com/0-chan-ru/tetuca
https://4.0-chan.ru, lots of russian boards and hosts meguca/pol/ at /xomy/.
>https://github.com/meowmin/meguca
No idea where the site is but very actively developed.
>>386414
Right?
>I haven't had enough incompetence, I want more! Bring all the things back, cuz it TOTALLY wasn't broken before
Right?
>I haven't had enough incompetence, I want more! Bring all the things back, cuz it TOTALLY wasn't broken before
>>386414
>It's sickening how eager most people are to go back after a bigger scandal than the Fappening/Gamergate shitshow
calling this happening "bigger" than GG implies that we'll see fruits of its story for more than a decade
>XenForo
I'm pretty sure it supports anon posting kek
>>386416
>not pure Go
as a /g/entooman I find this insulting
>It's sickening how eager most people are to go back after a bigger scandal than the Fappening/Gamergate shitshow
calling this happening "bigger" than GG implies that we'll see fruits of its story for more than a decade
>XenForo
I'm pretty sure it supports anon posting kek
>>386416
>not pure Go
as a /g/entooman I find this insulting
>>386418
GG might have unfortunately been a cultural phenomenon but the 4chan scandals around luggage lad and some other events like /pol/harbor were definitely smaller than the whole site dying while all the memes and dox rumors about the staff were proved correct.
>not pure Go
I don't think you can do liveposting without JS.
GG might have unfortunately been a cultural phenomenon but the 4chan scandals around luggage lad and some other events like /pol/harbor were definitely smaller than the whole site dying while all the memes and dox rumors about the staff were proved correct.
>not pure Go
I don't think you can do liveposting without JS.
>>386420
>cultural phenomenon
fix your website, Abib
>I don't think you can do liveposting without JS.
I think one can use Go2JS compiler
also looking at source code I find use of websockets to be unnecessary & dependency on Posgres being strange (many small altchans are fine with sqllite or outright using plaintext)
>cultural phenomenon
fix your website, Abib
>I don't think you can do liveposting without JS.
I think one can use Go2JS compiler
also looking at source code I find use of websockets to be unnecessary & dependency on Posgres being strange (many small altchans are fine with sqllite or outright using plaintext)
>>386421
lat (bakape) was always using meme tech. He must have been onto something when shamiko can do >1k PPH and feed ~10 liveposts to ~150 users without choking. Compare that to the absolute state of 8kun and 8moe now.
lat (bakape) was always using meme tech. He must have been onto something when shamiko can do >1k PPH and feed ~10 liveposts to ~150 users without choking. Compare that to the absolute state of 8kun and 8moe now.
>>386420
>I don't think you can do liveposting without JS.
Not with that attitude.
https://github.com/cindersax/htmx-bun-chat
>I don't think you can do liveposting without JS.
Not with that attitude.
https://github.com/cindersax/htmx-bun-chat
>>386430
The demo doesn't look like it has realtime post updates. On a meguca instance you see people typing.
The demo doesn't look like it has realtime post updates. On a meguca instance you see people typing.
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>>386201
interesting, could they be using /j/ as a test board of sort for how they're fixing the site?
interesting, could they be using /j/ as a test board of sort for how they're fixing the site?
>>386414
>It's sickening how eager most people are to go back
While we at /mlp/ are not doing too bad all things considered, there are still tons of things that just don't have a replacement. Most hobby boards like /g/ or /ck/ or /an/ simply don't have an active bunker (unless anons actually migrated to 8moe from all boards, I haven't checked it out yet). And there were certainly a good amount of posters who were regulars on the huge boards like /v/ or /pol/ and actually enjoyed spending time among the huge cascade of garbage going on there, and again there's simply no replacement that's anywhere near as fast right now.
>It's sickening how eager most people are to go back
While we at /mlp/ are not doing too bad all things considered, there are still tons of things that just don't have a replacement. Most hobby boards like /g/ or /ck/ or /an/ simply don't have an active bunker (unless anons actually migrated to 8moe from all boards, I haven't checked it out yet). And there were certainly a good amount of posters who were regulars on the huge boards like /v/ or /pol/ and actually enjoyed spending time among the huge cascade of garbage going on there, and again there's simply no replacement that's anywhere near as fast right now.
>>386461
>dude check out this thread that hasn't even had any posts for four days, it's totally gonna be a good replacement for your entire 2000 post per day board
Obviously some people here are going to be into various things as well, there have been technical discussions too, you could probably start a /diy/-related thread on /ub/ or even here or something, etc. But it's not at all the same as the entire board itself actually migrating.
Where can I get chink recommendations for my /tea/ now, for example? Probably not here.
>dude check out this thread that hasn't even had any posts for four days, it's totally gonna be a good replacement for your entire 2000 post per day board
Obviously some people here are going to be into various things as well, there have been technical discussions too, you could probably start a /diy/-related thread on /ub/ or even here or something, etc. But it's not at all the same as the entire board itself actually migrating.
Where can I get chink recommendations for my /tea/ now, for example? Probably not here.
>>386466
>this again
Nigger, I am measuring boards by the actual conversations I was able to have, with real people. Both in generals and outside. The fact that some shillbotspambuzzwords probably existed on the catalog doesn't mean that the actual speed of the real conversations that did happen was all fake or something.
And it certainly had more real posters I was able to talk to than /ub/'s cooking thread has.
>this again
Nigger, I am measuring boards by the actual conversations I was able to have, with real people. Both in generals and outside. The fact that some shillbotspambuzzwords probably existed on the catalog doesn't mean that the actual speed of the real conversations that did happen was all fake or something.
And it certainly had more real posters I was able to talk to than /ub/'s cooking thread has.
>>386467
Fair, but cooking is everywhere on the internet, so the blow-back from a sudden loss of /ck/ is negligible; so it is for many boards, and (delightfully) anons are doing their part and making the whole of the internet a much more shitposty place. You can have likewise exchanges in comment sections and more, and if you're doing it right any id's or accounts associated with said comments are are insular to the point of anonymity.
Fair, but cooking is everywhere on the internet, so the blow-back from a sudden loss of /ck/ is negligible; so it is for many boards, and (delightfully) anons are doing their part and making the whole of the internet a much more shitposty place. You can have likewise exchanges in comment sections and more, and if you're doing it right any id's or accounts associated with said comments are are insular to the point of anonymity.
>>386470
Yes but I want my bros back. I also don't wanna hunt around the internet for random comment sections or whatever like some kind of kike diaspora, I wanna have a place I can go to.
Maybe /ck/ was not the most unique board, but again /tea/ for example had a good few anons that were fun and actually helpful to chat with, where else am I gonna find a small group of autists who are well-informed on puerh strains and different harvests to give me suggestions? And other boards have it way worse, there is no replacement for /fglt/ or /dpt/ on /g/, or for /3dpg/ or /ohm/ on diy, etc. Yeah sure collectively there are lots of people on the internet that are into tech, linux, 3d printing or electronics respectively, but there is no equivalent place for such discussion. Realistically, my options are basically registering for reddit or some BB forum, and you're insane if you find either of those options to be adequate replacements.
Yes but I want my bros back. I also don't wanna hunt around the internet for random comment sections or whatever like some kind of kike diaspora, I wanna have a place I can go to.
Maybe /ck/ was not the most unique board, but again /tea/ for example had a good few anons that were fun and actually helpful to chat with, where else am I gonna find a small group of autists who are well-informed on puerh strains and different harvests to give me suggestions? And other boards have it way worse, there is no replacement for /fglt/ or /dpt/ on /g/, or for /3dpg/ or /ohm/ on diy, etc. Yeah sure collectively there are lots of people on the internet that are into tech, linux, 3d printing or electronics respectively, but there is no equivalent place for such discussion. Realistically, my options are basically registering for reddit or some BB forum, and you're insane if you find either of those options to be adequate replacements.
>>386472
fuck the jannies on /ck/. Everytime I mention goy slop, I get banned.
Did I insult the janny's favorite food or they trying to protect some food slop company?
fuck the jannies on /ck/. Everytime I mention goy slop, I get banned.
Did I insult the janny's favorite food or they trying to protect some food slop company?
>>386414
What are you talking about, what scandal? The site simply got hacked because of its old infrastructure, it will be updated and then come back the way it was. I personally don't give a fuck that jannies had their info leaked it doesn't affect me in any way so I don't see why you're implying it should deter me from going back.
Same goes for the fappening/gamergate. Why should anyone care?
What are you talking about, what scandal? The site simply got hacked because of its old infrastructure, it will be updated and then come back the way it was. I personally don't give a fuck that jannies had their info leaked it doesn't affect me in any way so I don't see why you're implying it should deter me from going back.
Same goes for the fappening/gamergate. Why should anyone care?
>>386540
>what scandal?
their server had been running software that hadn't been properly maintained (according to the unofficial leak story). In information security this is considered scandalous because it's incomprehensible how a big player like 4chan could be so negligent.
But of course, the unofficial story that every takes for granted isn't true, but that's another discussion
>what scandal?
their server had been running software that hadn't been properly maintained (according to the unofficial leak story). In information security this is considered scandalous because it's incomprehensible how a big player like 4chan could be so negligent.
But of course, the unofficial story that every takes for granted isn't true, but that's another discussion
>>386540
>then come back the way it was.
It will come back but it won't be the same. They'll need to replace so much deprecated stuff that the site will be different. It will be like a decade of small update quirks all crammed into a moment
>then come back the way it was.
It will come back but it won't be the same. They'll need to replace so much deprecated stuff that the site will be different. It will be like a decade of small update quirks all crammed into a moment
>>386542
I would understand it as a scandal if 4chan was a financial website or something, but it's an anonymous imageboard that doesn't keep any user information except for their IP which is worthless.
Unless you're some kind of /g/ fag hyper-obsessed with security I don't see why random users should be concerned.
I would understand it as a scandal if 4chan was a financial website or something, but it's an anonymous imageboard that doesn't keep any user information except for their IP which is worthless.
Unless you're some kind of /g/ fag hyper-obsessed with security I don't see why random users should be concerned.
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