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>>369883
Look, I'm not really interested in getting sucked into yet another internal meta-fight about what kind of content we should or should not be posting. We have our disagreements but we're all basically on the same side. That said, I do have a couple of comments here.

>So, no one has yet made a tangible counterargument to AI being part of the next "globalist's" wave of poison to infect and alter/copy/replace Humanity/God/Mankind
First, as someone else already pointed out, this thread isn't really an appropriate venue for this debate. There is already a thread about AI ethics on /cyb/; this thread is for posting AI-generated art. You are free to take issue with the creation of such art, but this probably isn't the best way to go about it. Generally, invading a thread full of content you don't like and complaining about said content is not a productive way to start a debate. If people tell you to fuck off or just ignore you, it's pretty much your own fault.

Second, no one has bothered to make a counterargument because you haven't made much of an argument to begin with. All you've done is make a lot of noise about how AI is Satanic and created by Jews, without any elaboration. You could use the same claim to justify nearly any wacky position: I don't drive a car because Jews and Satan; I don't own an electric egg beater because Jews and Satan; I don't bathe or use deodorant because Jews and Satan. And so forth. You offer absolutely nothing tangible to back up any of your positions, and until you do, you can't expect to be taken seriously.

Even considering that your view seems to be rooted in your religious beliefs, specifically your "100% aligned with KJV New Testament" Christianity, you still don't make much of a case for yourself. You don't even offer any scripture or theology to back up your claims. All we have is your personal assertion that, apparently, "thou shalt not use AI to draw sexi nazi hoers" is in the King James Bible somewhere, and we're just supposed to take your word on that maybe it's in the apocrypha somewhere, idk. Even if someone wanted to debate you on your own turf and make this a theological argument, you're still not offering us much to go on.

However, I will go ahead and take a crack at arguing against the point I think you're trying to make:

AI is a tool in the same way that a computer is a tool, or any other piece of technology is a tool. It is no more good or evil than the intent of the person using it. The specific tech of AI generation is more advanced than previous tech we've seen, but fundamentally we're still just talking about a machine being fed instructions: you tell it what to draw, and it draws it. The first time I ever used a computer in my life was in elementary school, it was an old Apple II in the school's computer lab. The teacher told us what instructions to type in to make it draw simple shapes like stars and triangles, and it was like 20 lines of code per picture. For all the "intelligence" of the new system, this is fundamentally the same concept, the only difference being that instead of laboriously feeding the machine direct instructions telling it where to draw a line, what color and for how far, there is an added layer of processing software. The software interprets more nuanced human-readable instructions and juxtaposes it against data it's already collected, then generates an approximate result based on what it thinks you want. It's still just a machine reading and executing human-written instructions; there is nothing supernatural happening here.

As to how Jewish the technology is, I couldn't tell you. As with anything high-tech, there is a lot of money and research involved, so presumably there are Jews involved somewhere, but to say the entire technology should be discarded simply because somebody named Shekelberg wrote a check somewhere along the line is just stupid. Anyway, unless you can name the specific Jews involved in the development and deployment of Dall-E and other AI art generators, and explain how, specifically, they plan to use this technology for nefarious ends, as well as how our using this tech to draw cute little ponies somehow furthers these ends, I have little choice but to call bullshit on this part of your claim. At the very least, this tech is no more Jewish than anything else produced by Big Tech, so if you're using a computer, a web browser, a router/modem, and so forth, it's already too late I'm afraid.

With all that said, there are admittedly some valid ethical concerns about AI technology in general that are worth discussing. For instance, because of its complexity, a serious AI is almost impossible to develop and train without access to powerful computers and enormous data sets, so for the time being we have to rely on large companies with questionable ethics in order to use this tech. I'm also concerned about some of the potential applications of AI, for example AI could potentially make data analysis and surveillance much easier for governments. Again, though, this is more an issue of who is using the technology and how than an issue with the technology itself being somehow evil in nature. And in any event, I don't see how using Dall-E to generate drawings of cartoon ponies is going to help facilitate any of these more nefarious uses of the tech.

Also, since I clearly enjoy allowing the devil-machine to ravage my eternal soul, here are some more Aryannes.

>>369958
>what I am against is the utter lack of originality, investment, motivation, temperament, skill, and life experience that only an artist is able to show
I can actually appreciate this viewpoint. I'm not an artist, and while I feel like I have a decent understanding of layout and aesthetics, my eye isn't going to be nearly as good as that of someone who actually draws. Something hand crafted is always going to be of better quality than something mass-produced or created through automation. I think most of the images in this thread are pretty nice looking, but you're probably looking at them with a far more critical eye than I am.

Personally though, I like having access to this tool just on a practical level. Sometimes I need artwork for a project, and AI is a quick and dirty way of getting it without having to pay someone. For instance, pic 1 is some cover art I generated for a story I wrote. You can see that there are some problems with it: it gave the filly an extra leg and gave both ponies weird blurry cutie marks, so I had to do a bit of photoshopping to get it to look presentable. Still though, it's a nice-looking image and it serves the purpose well enough. It looks nicer than a generic stock image, and much nicer than anything I could draw myself.

Pics 2 and 3 are runner-up images from the same set of prompts that I liked but couldn't use for various reasons. I've found that usually you have to generate a large batch of images and tweak the prompt each time before the AI gives you something close to what you want, which can get frustrating. Still though, I feel like spending ~20 min writing AI prompts + another 20 in Photoshop is preferable to hiring some troon on DeviantArt and waiting weeks to months for him to get around to finishing it.

I don't think AI-generated art is necessarily on-par with hand-drawn art or should replace it, but if you need original art for something, you can't draw it yourself and don't want to spend the time and money commissioning something, AI is an acceptable middle ground.

Also, I just want to say that I really, really like this "ponies in nature rendered in medieval tapestry style" aesthetic, and the AI does a decent job with it about 85-90% of the time.

>>369968
You should read pic 4, I think you'll find it's the key to knowing thyself.

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