There's one thing I never understood about vatniks, especially in the west, they have a fixation on Wagner PMC being 'le based and redpilled' fascist group, but Prigo is confirmed to be Jewish.
They hail Putin as the superhero of the west, but he's a half Jew that loves to appeal to Moscow commies and is former KGB, not to mention his extensive associations with the WEF and Klaus Schwab, or the 'incident' he had with 5/yo Nikita Konkin.
Why would anyone in their right mind prop up a commie loving half Jew or a PMC that's lead by a Jew as 'saviors of the white race'? It makes no sense.>BUH MUH JEWKRAINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, Ukraine is run by a Jew, the Azov Battalion is funded by Israel - but none of this changes the fact that the Wagner PMC is lead by a Jew and that Putin is a communist half Jew; Putin isn't the 'savior of the white race, The Wagner PMC isn't a 'based and redpilled' fascist military. Supporting the 'lesser of two evils' is still supporting evil. There is no excuse for supporting either side of ZOG's armies.
Putin in the KGBhttps://archive.ph/LSwG2#selection-1335.9-1351.80
Putin lamenting the death of the USSRhttps://archive.is/wf2K
Putin expressing his sympathy for communist ideashttps://archive.is/7tkNK
The Nikita Konkin incidenthttps://archive.is/1CMch
Putin accused of pedophilia https://archive.ph/1KS5g
Putin meeting with Klaus Schwabhttps://archive.ph/75N6z
Klaus Schwab praising Putinhttps://archive.ph/013f7
Putin speaking at the WEF in 2021https://archive.ph/3BNLd
What is a vatnik? I don't think I've ever heard this term. In any case, in general I think more people on the right are inclined to support Russia in the current conflict simply because NATO supports Ukraine, I don't know that I've ever heard anyone claim that Putin is the savior of the white race. It's probably debatable whether or not Russians even count as white, they're sort of a white/asiatic hybrid from what I understand. As far as which side of the conflict has more Jews, from what I can tell there are plenty of them on all sides, so I'm not really sure what you're even on about. Did this need to be a thread?
>>364837>In any case, in general I think more people on the right are inclined to support Russia in the current conflict simply because NATO supports Ukraine, I don't know that I've ever heard anyone claim that Putin is the savior of the white race.
People only support Russia because NATO and the West are awful, largely out of contrarianism with the institutions that have wronged them for decades.>As far as which side of the conflict has more Jews, from what I can tell there are plenty of them on all sides
Also this. Jews always play both sides.>Did this need to be a thread?
It's a topic, so it deserves a thread. Better than being lumped into the general. If OP has any more to share/elaborate that would be good though.
Maybe I'm a vatnik? I'm non-ideological. I like modern Russia and Putin, I admire Soviet power in a purely nostalgic way, etc. But that doesn't even matter. It's a simple matter of knowing what the sides are. I'm on the side of protecting national sovereignty and identity, which my nation doesn't have, and can't get back within the current order. Think of it as a job that was ours, but it's been exported. Maybe Putin did or said some stuff. But when someone is responsible for the highest public office, there are better things to judge him by.
>>364846>It's a simple matter of knowing what the sides are. I'm on the side of yada yada
Basically, you like to reduce everything to a polar question of good and bad because thinking is kinda hard.
Maybe that is how i think. Let's see... We're being ethnically cleansed in our own homelands under the auspice of the unipolar world power, which the Russian Federation is asserting its autonomy against. Imagine trying to de-bank an entire country, and have it backfire. What happens when our rulers can't force the world to accept their fake money? Because that's in the cards now, thanks to the Russian Federation.
>>364862>the Russian Federation is asserting its autonomy against
Russia bans Holocaust denial and encourages Slavic women to racemix with foreign shitskins. Putin is racially Jewish, and a softcore communist to boot.
Just because something is anti-America doesn't make it anti-kike, let alone pro-white. Kikes are playing both sides of the conflict, like they always do.
Stop falling for false dichotomies. You don't have to pick a side.>that's in the cards now, thanks to the Russian Federation.
They raised the price of oil for a while, but they didn't change the global monetary system.
Autonomy is relative. And i would consider things like self-sufficiency, less debt, not having a hostile empire on your doorstep ready to false-flag you or incite a revolution or turn your people into eunuchs and whores. Things like your president not having to be nice to Jews - and he secretly is one because you think you saw his mother's paperwork! - these might have to occur later on such a list.
Things like trading for resources Rubles or Yuan are a prerequisite for change. Those who rule us see us as a problem to be dealt with. They rely on having an infinity of dollars to make it happen. If they had less to offer, we'd have proportionally more power against them. This isn't hard.
>>364868>your president not having to be nice to Jews
He literally is though, not because he has to be, but because he chooses to. Putin held all those speeches reassuring Jews that they're welcome in Russia, and banned most forms of antisemitism and Holohoax denial.>Things like trading for resources Rubles or Yuan are a prerequisite for change
It might make a slight difference if the Saudis and other OPEC nations stopped trading in the petrodollar, but that hasn't manifested yet. The petrodollar will remain strong so long as the Saudis take American bribes.>This isn't hard.
It is hard. It's going to get a lot harder. I want the globohomo to collapse as much as you do, but you're really oversimplifying things, especially by embracing the false messiah of Russia as a legit opposition to it, because it's not. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" is peak golem logic.