The second American Civil War has been a meme that has been pushed for a very long time. However, it feels like America is currently closer than ever before to falling apart. The ideological differences between Americans is starting to mount, and the media seems obsessed with encouraging division. Will this trend of division continue, and will we see another American Civil War?
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>>119876
I personally am inclined to believe the Right will just cave in after it realizes the country is too far gone to be saved. That will take more time, more indoctrinated youth, and millions or tens of millions of new third world immigrants, but it will happen
I personally am inclined to believe the Right will just cave in after it realizes the country is too far gone to be saved. That will take more time, more indoctrinated youth, and millions or tens of millions of new third world immigrants, but it will happen
>>119877
So there will never be a new civil war, not states or large groups of people resisting the federal government?
So there will never be a new civil war, not states or large groups of people resisting the federal government?
>>119876
I don't think one will happen at Least for a while. Right now we are undergoing a pretty nice economic boom, and with everything online and politically going towards nationalism I'm inclined to believe that for at least the next 8 years we should be fine
I don't think one will happen at Least for a while. Right now we are undergoing a pretty nice economic boom, and with everything online and politically going towards nationalism I'm inclined to believe that for at least the next 8 years we should be fine
And even if it does, one side has I'd say 80-90% of the guns and training
>>119878
Probably not. Smaller militias or a nullification crisis is possible, but anything to rival the great uprising of 1861 seems to me to be very unlikely. Civil wars are gritty and risky, and no one wants to do that
Probably not. Smaller militias or a nullification crisis is possible, but anything to rival the great uprising of 1861 seems to me to be very unlikely. Civil wars are gritty and risky, and no one wants to do that
>>119890
That's only the time I'm comfortable hypothesising. It would be stupid for me to say it will never happen but it's also just as foolish to say it will. So I just look at what we have now and predict from that
That's only the time I'm comfortable hypothesising. It would be stupid for me to say it will never happen but it's also just as foolish to say it will. So I just look at what we have now and predict from that
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Name a line the postmodernists haven't crossed. Name a line the muslims haven't crossed. Name a line the BLM Antifa Communist Anarchist scum haven't crossed.
If you can name that line… The war will happen as soon as they cross it.
Then it'll be shut down by globalists using this as an excuse to rescind all human rights and seize emergency power indefinitely, permanently declaring martial law and a worldwide thoughtcrime ban on "Hate Crime".
Unless we get the globalists out of power first.
Meme at the normies, redpill them, remove the liberal's ignorant normie support and useful-idiot army.
If you can name that line… The war will happen as soon as they cross it.
Then it'll be shut down by globalists using this as an excuse to rescind all human rights and seize emergency power indefinitely, permanently declaring martial law and a worldwide thoughtcrime ban on "Hate Crime".
Unless we get the globalists out of power first.
Meme at the normies, redpill them, remove the liberal's ignorant normie support and useful-idiot army.
I think we will see one when the economy tanks. Most millennials are in a pretty bad financial situation as it is. When they no longer have anything to lose then it is over.
>>119876
We probably won't see a civil war until things get bad enough for everyone. Currently, the economy is on a very slight upturn, but one little bump might cause it to crash back down.
So, I'm betting once oil starts to become rarer than gold, that's when we'll see a potential civil war.
We probably won't see a civil war until things get bad enough for everyone. Currently, the economy is on a very slight upturn, but one little bump might cause it to crash back down.
So, I'm betting once oil starts to become rarer than gold, that's when we'll see a potential civil war.
I think we will devide ourselves before it gets to full on warfare.
But I do want the chance to kill a bunch of niggers.
But I do want the chance to kill a bunch of niggers.
http://laraj.ca/AGwiki/uploads/Contemporary/America/Thomas%20Chittum%20-%20Civil%20war%20II.pdf
I'm just gonna drop off this link here.
I'm just gonna drop off this link here.
These two get it:
War always comes down to resources.
>>119899
>>119917
Keep in mind that an uncountable number of lines, many of which are probably unbeknownst to us, have already been crossed. What about mass surveillance programs? Laundering of foreign money through administrations run by current/previous political elites? What about laundering of tax revenue through the subsidization of politically-biased technology companies? The consigning of hundreds of thousands of people to the torch, to satisfy the interests of ethnocentric bankers? The compliance of appointed judges with murders by convicted, illegally-present felons? These are *mainstream* facts, at that.
There are no lines that cannot be crossed as long as the economy is in good enough shape for bread and circuses. The economy itself is obviously under the control of the same incestuous crowd.
War always comes down to resources.
>>119899
>>119917
Keep in mind that an uncountable number of lines, many of which are probably unbeknownst to us, have already been crossed. What about mass surveillance programs? Laundering of foreign money through administrations run by current/previous political elites? What about laundering of tax revenue through the subsidization of politically-biased technology companies? The consigning of hundreds of thousands of people to the torch, to satisfy the interests of ethnocentric bankers? The compliance of appointed judges with murders by convicted, illegally-present felons? These are *mainstream* facts, at that.
There are no lines that cannot be crossed as long as the economy is in good enough shape for bread and circuses. The economy itself is obviously under the control of the same incestuous crowd.
>>119886
The thing is though the left doesn't care how good the economy is, and they are probably the ones who will try to secede. What will likely happen is the booming economy combined with Democrats continuing to behave like complete shitlords will ensure Trump gets a second term. I also kind of doubt this "blue wave" the press keeps talking about is going to come this year. They may pick up seats in Congress but I highly doubt they'll get a majority in either chamber. The Russia collusion investigation is going to turn up nothing, and there may or may not be a serious investigation into the wrongdoings of the Clinton campaign and the Obama administration.
While all of this seems perfectly sensible to us you have to remember that the left lives in an echo chamber. They honestly believe that Trump stole the election via some sort of Russian Twitter campaign, that he is actively trying to interfere with the investigation against him in order to cover this up, and the mountains of evidence against the Clinton/Obama/FBI cartel is just a false narrative cooked up by the administration as an attempt to obstruct justice. They are most likely going to continue suffering a string of stinging defeats over the next few years, and they are just going to interpret this as being the result of some kind of unholy alliance between Trump and Putin. You have to remember that these people are literally incapable of introspection and only listen to each other. Sooner or later the gauntlet is going to get thrown down, and it's probably going to come from California. Either they will secede directly or they will challenge Trump to the point where he has no choice but to act with force.
The thing is though the left doesn't care how good the economy is, and they are probably the ones who will try to secede. What will likely happen is the booming economy combined with Democrats continuing to behave like complete shitlords will ensure Trump gets a second term. I also kind of doubt this "blue wave" the press keeps talking about is going to come this year. They may pick up seats in Congress but I highly doubt they'll get a majority in either chamber. The Russia collusion investigation is going to turn up nothing, and there may or may not be a serious investigation into the wrongdoings of the Clinton campaign and the Obama administration.
While all of this seems perfectly sensible to us you have to remember that the left lives in an echo chamber. They honestly believe that Trump stole the election via some sort of Russian Twitter campaign, that he is actively trying to interfere with the investigation against him in order to cover this up, and the mountains of evidence against the Clinton/Obama/FBI cartel is just a false narrative cooked up by the administration as an attempt to obstruct justice. They are most likely going to continue suffering a string of stinging defeats over the next few years, and they are just going to interpret this as being the result of some kind of unholy alliance between Trump and Putin. You have to remember that these people are literally incapable of introspection and only listen to each other. Sooner or later the gauntlet is going to get thrown down, and it's probably going to come from California. Either they will secede directly or they will challenge Trump to the point where he has no choice but to act with force.
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The only way to prevent a civil war would be complete disbandment of the system, whereby all citizens would need to secede from each other. Of course, that would create unrest of a different order as all the dindus chimp out from lack of welfare.
But yes, a civil war is inevitable in maybe ten or fifteen years, perhaps sooner. The economy propped up on fake credit and loans from future generations cannot last forever. Already more and more people–millions, even–acknowledge that the crony capitalist economy is a sham and that we as white European descendants are being forcibly replaced. The Overton Window is slowly creeping our way despite all efforts from media and public indoctrination.
As to whether a civil war would entail a simple seizure of power, a Turner Diaries-style race war or a coalition of private militias against the hegemony is unknown. A lot would come down to what side the military leadership would take and whether the armed forces would split.
But yes, a civil war is inevitable in maybe ten or fifteen years, perhaps sooner. The economy propped up on fake credit and loans from future generations cannot last forever. Already more and more people–millions, even–acknowledge that the crony capitalist economy is a sham and that we as white European descendants are being forcibly replaced. The Overton Window is slowly creeping our way despite all efforts from media and public indoctrination.
As to whether a civil war would entail a simple seizure of power, a Turner Diaries-style race war or a coalition of private militias against the hegemony is unknown. A lot would come down to what side the military leadership would take and whether the armed forces would split.
>>119876
You are already seeing extreme levels of polarisation in the political stance of average folks and attempts at secession, at least on a minor scale (see: New California). If the current rate of polarisation continues make no mistake, a civil war will happen. Don't mistake the effeminate boys, unfit landwhales or indoctrinated communists as the potential opposition in such a conflict, they'll at best be used a fifth columnists, the real conflict will be waged against external forces masquerading as US citizens.
The very second a civil war starts in the US, you're going to have every major power on earth either quietly or openly meddling in the conflict for one reason or another. You remember all those media reports of brave US soldiers being sent to god knows where to "stabilise" the region? That's the United States in a civil war, except worse because of the nuclear weapons and everything that implies.
You are already seeing extreme levels of polarisation in the political stance of average folks and attempts at secession, at least on a minor scale (see: New California). If the current rate of polarisation continues make no mistake, a civil war will happen. Don't mistake the effeminate boys, unfit landwhales or indoctrinated communists as the potential opposition in such a conflict, they'll at best be used a fifth columnists, the real conflict will be waged against external forces masquerading as US citizens.
The very second a civil war starts in the US, you're going to have every major power on earth either quietly or openly meddling in the conflict for one reason or another. You remember all those media reports of brave US soldiers being sent to god knows where to "stabilise" the region? That's the United States in a civil war, except worse because of the nuclear weapons and everything that implies.
>>119896
Lines keep being drawn and crossed and redrawn again. I don't see any kind of resistance nor can I find any. The left has so far shown that they have more gumption to do things while the right sits back and laughs at their efforts.
Lines keep being drawn and crossed and redrawn again. I don't see any kind of resistance nor can I find any. The left has so far shown that they have more gumption to do things while the right sits back and laughs at their efforts.
There have been a recent spree of smash and grabs at my local firearms dealers, the most recent of which was yesterday. As far as I have heard it seems to be the same group of people crashing their vehicle into the entrance and making off with dozens of weapons.
The one that occurred yesterday they got out with 17-19 pistols and several cases of ammunition, though oddly enough no long guns were taken.
The one that occurred yesterday they got out with 17-19 pistols and several cases of ammunition, though oddly enough no long guns were taken.
>>120155
Probably has less to do with revolution, and more to do with criminality. The pistol is the wepon of choice for murderers and criminals. Also,
#banassaultvehicles
Probably has less to do with revolution, and more to do with criminality. The pistol is the wepon of choice for murderers and criminals. Also,
#banassaultvehicles
>>120160
A car crashing into your building trends to leave people paralyzed with shock. The robbers leave before anyone has time to react.
A car crashing into your building trends to leave people paralyzed with shock. The robbers leave before anyone has time to react.
>>120165
It's not like they can grab that much stuff and get out before people can snap out of it, though.
It's not like they can grab that much stuff and get out before people can snap out of it, though.
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>>120108
This. If the Union breaks up you're going to see foreign actors of all shapes and sizes gambling and financing militias in certain areas. Country has disposable income and wants access to oil fields in Alaska? They send money, special forces and guns to Alaska's Right Wing Death Squads. China wants to solidify ethnic and cultural foothold in California? They send money, guns, special forces to California to take advantage of left-wing fifth-columnists and SJWs. Mexico wants its ancient land back? Floods of spics, guns, money and special forces into Arizona, Texas, New Mexico and Southern California. Russia wants cheap food exports from the Breadbasket? Money and arms to create a Mormon ethnostate. There's no end to the borders and lines that can be drawn between the good people of America, the different groups that can be aided by foreign interests or the remnants of the old government. America will be Viet Nam on ultra-steroids.
Make no mistake, a new American civil war won't end with a complete takeover by kikes, Right Wing Death Squads, AnCaps or AnComs. It'll be balkanization and border wars ending with a fractured continent.
This. If the Union breaks up you're going to see foreign actors of all shapes and sizes gambling and financing militias in certain areas. Country has disposable income and wants access to oil fields in Alaska? They send money, special forces and guns to Alaska's Right Wing Death Squads. China wants to solidify ethnic and cultural foothold in California? They send money, guns, special forces to California to take advantage of left-wing fifth-columnists and SJWs. Mexico wants its ancient land back? Floods of spics, guns, money and special forces into Arizona, Texas, New Mexico and Southern California. Russia wants cheap food exports from the Breadbasket? Money and arms to create a Mormon ethnostate. There's no end to the borders and lines that can be drawn between the good people of America, the different groups that can be aided by foreign interests or the remnants of the old government. America will be Viet Nam on ultra-steroids.
Make no mistake, a new American civil war won't end with a complete takeover by kikes, Right Wing Death Squads, AnCaps or AnComs. It'll be balkanization and border wars ending with a fractured continent.
Just became more inevitable and another inch closer.
We're losing Trumo, pussifying on guns.
We're losing Trumo, pussifying on guns.
>>120172
What other countries do you think will balkanize if the U.S. breaks apart? I know other countries may try to get involved, but we are the world's policeman and the world's largest market. If the U.S. goes down we are going to take a lot with us.
What other countries do you think will balkanize if the U.S. breaks apart? I know other countries may try to get involved, but we are the world's policeman and the world's largest market. If the U.S. goes down we are going to take a lot with us.
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>>119876
Here's a question that I'd like you to consider. Why are our adversaries trying to rock the boat so hard right now and push us towards potential civil war? We've known them to be extremely patient and willing to play the long game over generations. So what if Trump won the election over Hillary? Four to eight years is nothing to them. One would expect them to dig in to weather the storm and then pick up where they left off once they can get their own man in office again. Why risk a civil conflict, especially when it's practically common knowledge that their adversary is better prepared, more favored by the military, more fit, etc? Why take that risk?
I suspect that the Trump presidency is more important than we may have suspected. I'm inclined to think that there is some upcoming event that is critical to their plans and that they desperately want to control the white house during that event. My best guess is simply this fucking bitch. Pic related. This old witch is on death's door, and Trump will be able to nominate a new Supreme Court justice once she shuffles off her mortal coil. That will shift the balance of power in the supreme court and may be disastrous towards many of the schemes that they've been pushing for a long time.
There are many other possibilities about what the event might be. The Boomers are nearing retirement, they may be afraid about a potential reversal of demographic trends if illegal immigration is brought under control, or they may simply be concerned with Trump potentially fucking with their well laid planes for the global economy.
However, regardless of what is motivating our opponent, I ultimately think that the Second American Civil War is bait. They want it. They want to agitate use towards a conflict. I think that they believe that their fate is in grave danger and that they are willing to risk a lot in a big gambit. Please deny them the opportunity to roll the dice.
Here's a question that I'd like you to consider. Why are our adversaries trying to rock the boat so hard right now and push us towards potential civil war? We've known them to be extremely patient and willing to play the long game over generations. So what if Trump won the election over Hillary? Four to eight years is nothing to them. One would expect them to dig in to weather the storm and then pick up where they left off once they can get their own man in office again. Why risk a civil conflict, especially when it's practically common knowledge that their adversary is better prepared, more favored by the military, more fit, etc? Why take that risk?
I suspect that the Trump presidency is more important than we may have suspected. I'm inclined to think that there is some upcoming event that is critical to their plans and that they desperately want to control the white house during that event. My best guess is simply this fucking bitch. Pic related. This old witch is on death's door, and Trump will be able to nominate a new Supreme Court justice once she shuffles off her mortal coil. That will shift the balance of power in the supreme court and may be disastrous towards many of the schemes that they've been pushing for a long time.
There are many other possibilities about what the event might be. The Boomers are nearing retirement, they may be afraid about a potential reversal of demographic trends if illegal immigration is brought under control, or they may simply be concerned with Trump potentially fucking with their well laid planes for the global economy.
However, regardless of what is motivating our opponent, I ultimately think that the Second American Civil War is bait. They want it. They want to agitate use towards a conflict. I think that they believe that their fate is in grave danger and that they are willing to risk a lot in a big gambit. Please deny them the opportunity to roll the dice.
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>>120273
I think you're honestly overestimating your opponent's level of control. If you want my honest opinion (((they))) only control things superficially and their hold on that control is tenuous and is currently slipping, rapidly. You can't really control an entire nation's population, all you can do is feed them your narrative through appealing puppets, do your best to restrict people's access to alternative information and hope they all go along with it. As soon as people stop listening to you and other movements start to pick up steam you lose power.
As fun as the meme is, there isn't some shadowy cabal of all-powerful kikes firing mind control waves into people's heads to compel anyone who eats soy products to do their bidding; the Jewish conspiracy is real and it's powerful but it's far from all powerful. Basically, they control the money supply, most major news outlets, the bulk of the entertainment industry, and academia. That gives them a lot of power. What they don't control is the internet and alternative media. The difference between the internet age and previous ages is that people currently have access to varying sources of news and opinion, and the more information you have the easier it is to form your own opinions and to decide who you trust and who you support. The rise of the New Right is probably the most obvious example of this, but in a weird way the New Left is a product of this as well, and I think it's something they never reckoned for.
If you want my opinion I don't think the kikes ever wanted armies of SJWs running around in the streets screaming about triggers any more than they wanted right wing nationalism to come back. They want a duopoly between "conservatives" and "liberals" who pretend to be at odds with each other but are basically in agreement about things like open borders, the benefits of multiculturalism, big government, etc. Bush vs. Clinton was the election they wanted and were pushing. Then along came Trump and to a lesser extent Bernie, both of whom were perceived as manageable because it was assumed neither would be able to draw more support than a handful of fringe radicals. Even when Trump won the nomination it was still assumed that few people would actually vote for him, and that most of the country would rally behind Clinton. It didn't work though; Trump drew a huge amount of support despite the media/entertainment/academic complex throwing everything they had at him, and large swaths of the left outright rejected Clinton despite the media/entertainment complex propping her up and the FBI and Obama administration helping to conceal her myriad crimes.
The rise of the extreme left is the real irony, though. These are mostly kids who were fed a steady diet of PC bullshit growing up that wasn't supposed to do anything but sap their sense of duty and patriotism and instill enough white guilt to get them to support the eventual dissolution of national borders. The problem is it worked too well, they didn't just drink the Kool Aid, they chugged it, and now they've basically mutated into something that can't be controlled. Basically, the monster that the kikes created is now helping to destroy their village, ironically much like the story of the golem from Jewish mythology. It's not just organic humans either, the puppets and useful idiots (((they))) have traditionally employed are beginning to go off reservation as well. Politicians don't give a shit about anything beyond their individual careers, which makes them easy to control, but also means that they have no loyalty. Republicans are beginning to realize that if they don't back up Trump they won't be reelected, and Democrats are facing a similar situation with the rabid left, coupled with the panic that is no doubt setting in now that they are beginning to realize their plan of ensuring a permanent majority by letting in illegals and refugees until the whites are outnumbered might be slowed or stopped, and if that happens they basically have no base outside of major coastal cities. The Democrats are basically a cornered animal right now, and their supporters are legitimately batshit insane.
The war that's brewing right now is completely organic. I don't know what's going to happen next, but whatever it is it definitely wasn't in the script.
I think you're honestly overestimating your opponent's level of control. If you want my honest opinion (((they))) only control things superficially and their hold on that control is tenuous and is currently slipping, rapidly. You can't really control an entire nation's population, all you can do is feed them your narrative through appealing puppets, do your best to restrict people's access to alternative information and hope they all go along with it. As soon as people stop listening to you and other movements start to pick up steam you lose power.
As fun as the meme is, there isn't some shadowy cabal of all-powerful kikes firing mind control waves into people's heads to compel anyone who eats soy products to do their bidding; the Jewish conspiracy is real and it's powerful but it's far from all powerful. Basically, they control the money supply, most major news outlets, the bulk of the entertainment industry, and academia. That gives them a lot of power. What they don't control is the internet and alternative media. The difference between the internet age and previous ages is that people currently have access to varying sources of news and opinion, and the more information you have the easier it is to form your own opinions and to decide who you trust and who you support. The rise of the New Right is probably the most obvious example of this, but in a weird way the New Left is a product of this as well, and I think it's something they never reckoned for.
If you want my opinion I don't think the kikes ever wanted armies of SJWs running around in the streets screaming about triggers any more than they wanted right wing nationalism to come back. They want a duopoly between "conservatives" and "liberals" who pretend to be at odds with each other but are basically in agreement about things like open borders, the benefits of multiculturalism, big government, etc. Bush vs. Clinton was the election they wanted and were pushing. Then along came Trump and to a lesser extent Bernie, both of whom were perceived as manageable because it was assumed neither would be able to draw more support than a handful of fringe radicals. Even when Trump won the nomination it was still assumed that few people would actually vote for him, and that most of the country would rally behind Clinton. It didn't work though; Trump drew a huge amount of support despite the media/entertainment/academic complex throwing everything they had at him, and large swaths of the left outright rejected Clinton despite the media/entertainment complex propping her up and the FBI and Obama administration helping to conceal her myriad crimes.
The rise of the extreme left is the real irony, though. These are mostly kids who were fed a steady diet of PC bullshit growing up that wasn't supposed to do anything but sap their sense of duty and patriotism and instill enough white guilt to get them to support the eventual dissolution of national borders. The problem is it worked too well, they didn't just drink the Kool Aid, they chugged it, and now they've basically mutated into something that can't be controlled. Basically, the monster that the kikes created is now helping to destroy their village, ironically much like the story of the golem from Jewish mythology. It's not just organic humans either, the puppets and useful idiots (((they))) have traditionally employed are beginning to go off reservation as well. Politicians don't give a shit about anything beyond their individual careers, which makes them easy to control, but also means that they have no loyalty. Republicans are beginning to realize that if they don't back up Trump they won't be reelected, and Democrats are facing a similar situation with the rabid left, coupled with the panic that is no doubt setting in now that they are beginning to realize their plan of ensuring a permanent majority by letting in illegals and refugees until the whites are outnumbered might be slowed or stopped, and if that happens they basically have no base outside of major coastal cities. The Democrats are basically a cornered animal right now, and their supporters are legitimately batshit insane.
The war that's brewing right now is completely organic. I don't know what's going to happen next, but whatever it is it definitely wasn't in the script.
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>>120250
Canada will definitely break apart if the US does. Mexico is already well on the path to breakup - I dare say it will break apart before the US does. If this happens, Mexico will become Syria, and we become Turkey - those who follow the SCW know exactly what this entails.
>Canada will become Quebec, Newfoundland/Labrador (if they don't join Quebec for the sake of reducing border gore), and rump Canada. The Inuit might try secession and independent Nunavut, but I don't see how they could gain enough power and resources to be truly independent.
>Mexico is already breaking apart because of the Drug War and cartel power. It's just a matter of taking it one step further.
Europe has massive balkanization potential plus the potential to see a few emirates/sultanates/caliphates
>France might see independent Brittany
>Germany could split East/West, or North/South. At the very least, Bavaria will try going independent.
>Ukraine could split into East/West, with Russians getting west. Poland, Hungary, Romania might try for grabbing some Ukranian clay (Lviv -> Poland, Zakarpattia -> Hungary, Bukovina -> Romania).
>Italy could suffer a North/South split.
>Spain also has balkanization potential (Catalonia, Galicia, Basque).
>Britain will certainly balkanize into England, Wales, and Scotland, with Ireland getting the whole island.
>Belgium is an odd one - you've got the French-speaking Walloons (who are basically French in denial) to the south, Dutch-speaking Flemish (who are basically Dutch in denial, who are themselves Germans in denial), and Arabic-speaking in Brussels.
>Turkey REEEEEEEEEEe, is not Evropean!!! STUPID SMELLY SHITSKIN CUNTRY is already on the path to balkanization
>Macedonia is seeing an influx of Albanians, who might try for Greater Albania, Kosovo-style.
>Bosnia definitely has balkanization potential, but the Bosniaks and Serbs there are too dependent on each other to break up.
>Serbia could balkanize even more than it already has, with Vojvodina (which has Hungarian population) possibly joining Hungary.
>Romania has quite a few Hungarians in Transylvania, but they're pretty much an isolated enclave now.
>Norway, Sweden, and Finland have the Sami to the north, but they are like the Inuit in Canada.
Yes, I'm leaving Russia out.
Canada will definitely break apart if the US does. Mexico is already well on the path to breakup - I dare say it will break apart before the US does. If this happens, Mexico will become Syria, and we become Turkey - those who follow the SCW know exactly what this entails.
>Canada will become Quebec, Newfoundland/Labrador (if they don't join Quebec for the sake of reducing border gore), and rump Canada. The Inuit might try secession and independent Nunavut, but I don't see how they could gain enough power and resources to be truly independent.
>Mexico is already breaking apart because of the Drug War and cartel power. It's just a matter of taking it one step further.
Europe has massive balkanization potential plus the potential to see a few emirates/sultanates/caliphates
>France might see independent Brittany
>Germany could split East/West, or North/South. At the very least, Bavaria will try going independent.
>Ukraine could split into East/West, with Russians getting west. Poland, Hungary, Romania might try for grabbing some Ukranian clay (Lviv -> Poland, Zakarpattia -> Hungary, Bukovina -> Romania).
>Italy could suffer a North/South split.
>Spain also has balkanization potential (Catalonia, Galicia, Basque).
>Britain will certainly balkanize into England, Wales, and Scotland, with Ireland getting the whole island.
>Belgium is an odd one - you've got the French-speaking Walloons (who are basically French in denial) to the south, Dutch-speaking Flemish (who are basically Dutch in denial, who are themselves Germans in denial), and Arabic-speaking in Brussels.
>Turkey REEEEEEEEEEe, is not Evropean!!! STUPID SMELLY SHITSKIN CUNTRY is already on the path to balkanization
>Macedonia is seeing an influx of Albanians, who might try for Greater Albania, Kosovo-style.
>Bosnia definitely has balkanization potential, but the Bosniaks and Serbs there are too dependent on each other to break up.
>Serbia could balkanize even more than it already has, with Vojvodina (which has Hungarian population) possibly joining Hungary.
>Romania has quite a few Hungarians in Transylvania, but they're pretty much an isolated enclave now.
>Norway, Sweden, and Finland have the Sami to the north, but they are like the Inuit in Canada.
Yes, I'm leaving Russia out.
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>>120392
Lemme expand on Turkey
Turkey has a major problem in the SE: Kurds. Back in the 1910s, the Turks genocided the Armenians (Turks gave the orders, Kurds executed them). This resulted in a vacuum in the SE which naturally, the Kurds filled (poetic justice tbqhwy). Today, Kurds make up a whopping 20% of the population in Turkey
The Kurds are already outbreeding the Turks (Turks have 1-2 children per family, Kurds have 4-5 children per family). If this demographic trend continues, Kurds will outnumber Turks by 2050.
The Kurds are waging an insurgency (PKK) against the Turks since 1970s. The PKK have bases in northern Iraq (KRG), and have set themselves up in Syria (Rojava). In fact, YPG is basically the Syrian branch of PKK - US officials have admitted that YPG = PKK.
The current situation between Turkey and the Kurds is that the Kurds have established quasi-states along most of Turkey's southern border - Map related, Kurds are yellow. Within these quasi-states, the PKK can smuggle weapons and supplies into Turkey, especially from Rojava. This makes Rojava a legitimate security threat to Turkey, and the Turks have already taken countermeasures:
>invading al-Bab to prevent Rojava from linking up with Afrin and establishing a Kurdish corridor along almost ALL of Turkey's southern border
>bombing PKK bases in the mountains of northern Iraq
>attacking Afrin to crush a pocket and kill quite a few YPG/PKK
>they're talking about attacking Manbij (where US SOF are at, and they're not leaving) and establishing a 30km safe zone along the Syrian-Turkish border.
Turkey will do whatever it takes to abort Kurdistan while it is in its infancy, and this has put them on a collision course with the US (who supports the Kurds), and caused them to pivot towards Russia.
Lemme expand on Turkey
Turkey has a major problem in the SE: Kurds. Back in the 1910s, the Turks genocided the Armenians (Turks gave the orders, Kurds executed them). This resulted in a vacuum in the SE which naturally, the Kurds filled (poetic justice tbqhwy). Today, Kurds make up a whopping 20% of the population in Turkey
The Kurds are already outbreeding the Turks (Turks have 1-2 children per family, Kurds have 4-5 children per family). If this demographic trend continues, Kurds will outnumber Turks by 2050.
The Kurds are waging an insurgency (PKK) against the Turks since 1970s. The PKK have bases in northern Iraq (KRG), and have set themselves up in Syria (Rojava). In fact, YPG is basically the Syrian branch of PKK - US officials have admitted that YPG = PKK.
The current situation between Turkey and the Kurds is that the Kurds have established quasi-states along most of Turkey's southern border - Map related, Kurds are yellow. Within these quasi-states, the PKK can smuggle weapons and supplies into Turkey, especially from Rojava. This makes Rojava a legitimate security threat to Turkey, and the Turks have already taken countermeasures:
>invading al-Bab to prevent Rojava from linking up with Afrin and establishing a Kurdish corridor along almost ALL of Turkey's southern border
>bombing PKK bases in the mountains of northern Iraq
>attacking Afrin to crush a pocket and kill quite a few YPG/PKK
>they're talking about attacking Manbij (where US SOF are at, and they're not leaving) and establishing a 30km safe zone along the Syrian-Turkish border.
Turkey will do whatever it takes to abort Kurdistan while it is in its infancy, and this has put them on a collision course with the US (who supports the Kurds), and caused them to pivot towards Russia.
>>120392
Brazil, South Africa, and China all have some break up potential too. Tibet, Xinjiang, Hong Kong, Macau and Taiwan could make a break for it if China's economy tanks. South Brazil has a growing separatist movement. The growing racial tension in South Africa could lead to a break up before the U.S.
Brazil, South Africa, and China all have some break up potential too. Tibet, Xinjiang, Hong Kong, Macau and Taiwan could make a break for it if China's economy tanks. South Brazil has a growing separatist movement. The growing racial tension in South Africa could lead to a break up before the U.S.
>>120392
>>120396
China and Russia are not in danger of breaking up. Not because they don't have secessionists, but because they have the balls to blast any rebel groups into the dirt. For example if Tibet rebels, China will just throw men into the grinder until they submit. If that doesn't work, they have no problem with reducing civilian targets to rubble.
>>120396
China and Russia are not in danger of breaking up. Not because they don't have secessionists, but because they have the balls to blast any rebel groups into the dirt. For example if Tibet rebels, China will just throw men into the grinder until they submit. If that doesn't work, they have no problem with reducing civilian targets to rubble.
>>120402
China has a lot of secessionist movements and territorial disputes. It would be difficult to fight a war on so many fronts at once, even for China.
China has a lot of secessionist movements and territorial disputes. It would be difficult to fight a war on so many fronts at once, even for China.
>>120392
>Norway, Sweden, and Finland have the Sami to the north, but they are like the Inuit in Canada.
From Finland perspective, Sami are quite happy/neutral currently they like tourism and and market easy it brings to belong to Finland. Of course there are few that don't like it, but they are really small minority to point they get told to shut up by their own. Only thing that pops up yearly is that they don't like that they can't shoot every wolf/ bear and wolverine they find due few killed reindeers. So in short they like that their purses are getting fat.
>Norway, Sweden, and Finland have the Sami to the north, but they are like the Inuit in Canada.
From Finland perspective, Sami are quite happy/neutral currently they like tourism and and market easy it brings to belong to Finland. Of course there are few that don't like it, but they are really small minority to point they get told to shut up by their own. Only thing that pops up yearly is that they don't like that they can't shoot every wolf/ bear and wolverine they find due few killed reindeers. So in short they like that their purses are getting fat.
>>120403
Perhaps, but no present-day country actually comes closer to national socialist politics than China. Their propaganda is all about having a united Chinese state. The Han population, which is by far the minority, are rendered docile due to the complete control of information. Even the outer provinces which are at risk of uprising are having their populations slowly replaced as ethnic Han take up jobs to build infrastructure there. Unless if there is a complete collapse of confidence in the government, China will not fall.
Perhaps, but no present-day country actually comes closer to national socialist politics than China. Their propaganda is all about having a united Chinese state. The Han population, which is by far the minority, are rendered docile due to the complete control of information. Even the outer provinces which are at risk of uprising are having their populations slowly replaced as ethnic Han take up jobs to build infrastructure there. Unless if there is a complete collapse of confidence in the government, China will not fall.
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>>121033
I've got mixed feels on that. Part of me just wants a bloodless coup if the left gets into power again so we can just purge the kike institutions like the media, Hollywood, and academia. But I know a secular dictator would never go after the kikes themselves and as soon as he leaves power we'd head back to the same.
Sorta why shedding blood might be worthwhile. A race war and killing kikes, even if its sounds edgy as fuck, would be a godsent for this nation.
I've got mixed feels on that. Part of me just wants a bloodless coup if the left gets into power again so we can just purge the kike institutions like the media, Hollywood, and academia. But I know a secular dictator would never go after the kikes themselves and as soon as he leaves power we'd head back to the same.
Sorta why shedding blood might be worthwhile. A race war and killing kikes, even if its sounds edgy as fuck, would be a godsent for this nation.
>>120814
This. China is exceedingly reliant on outside trade, any disruption to that would put them in some serious shit very easily.
This. China is exceedingly reliant on outside trade, any disruption to that would put them in some serious shit very easily.
>>120305
Other than making light of the soy consumption (effeminization of men + rise of feminism is fundamental to wiping out the White race with as little actual national combat as possible) I commend you on this post anon. It's pretty thoughtful imo.
>The Democrats are basically a cornered animal right now, and their supporters are legitimately batshit insane.
I love it, and I'm ordering more popcorn right now!
>The war that's brewing right now is completely organic. I don't know what's going to happen next, but whatever it is it definitely wasn't in the script.
God has literally ordered the laws of physics themselves to resist the actions of evil men. One of the things I like best about Him is His sense of humor towards Satan and his (((golems))).
Other than making light of the soy consumption (effeminization of men + rise of feminism is fundamental to wiping out the White race with as little actual national combat as possible) I commend you on this post anon. It's pretty thoughtful imo.
>The Democrats are basically a cornered animal right now, and their supporters are legitimately batshit insane.
I love it, and I'm ordering more popcorn right now!
>The war that's brewing right now is completely organic. I don't know what's going to happen next, but whatever it is it definitely wasn't in the script.
God has literally ordered the laws of physics themselves to resist the actions of evil men. One of the things I like best about Him is His sense of humor towards Satan and his (((golems))).
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