/cyb/ - Cyberpunk Fiction and Fact

>>1515
Why does it have to go on for weeks?

>>1516
Clearly you havent dealt with our resident flat earther

>>1517
It wouldn't be about flat earth discussion. That would stay in its current thread.

>>1518
Clearly you havent dealt with pur resident flat earther

>>1520
Flat eartherism is a glowie psyop to discredit sites where being pro-flat earth is permitted

>>1521
this, I refuse to believe that people who are legitimately stupid enough to believe that the Earth is flat after multiple millennia (dating all the way back to ancient Greece, in fact) of people knowing that the contrary is true to have any idea of how to actually navigate the internet. Everything else is feds trying to make us look like idiots.

>>1520
I have. I just refuse to entertain the notion of that argument spilling into every space thread on this separate board.
>>1521
>>1522
So let's keep that discussion in its own thread.

>>1526
Lmao

Foreign intelligence agencies must be rubbing their hands at what potential there now is thanks to the power of diversity hires

Science never changes

What no crop rotation and green fertilization does to a man

>>1535
That explains a lot.

>>1513
Okay, you win this one.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/scientist-etienne-klein-posts-webb-telescope-image-star-actually-slice-chorizo-apology/

>>1534
That is like straight out of Dennou Coil.
https://youtu.be/OF_stn8v030?t=121

>>1541
Beautiful anime, a pity it has not subtitles.

>>1534
Explanation to this one is simple: computers are just actual demons trapped inside silicon infrastructures and "enslaved" to the will of the programmer. There is no such thing as artificial intelligence, only demonic intelligence

>>1557
>computers are just actual demons trapped inside silicon infrastructures and "enslaved" to the will of the programmer.
I'm thinking in the nature of electricity, magnetism, and the atomic "theory" (never ever anyponer has seen an atom, let alone an electron).

>>1558
If "computers are demons" what does that make computer programs?

>>1559
An interpreted language to give instructions to the demons.

>>1558
>(never ever anyponer has seen an atom, let alone an electron)
You do realize that there are other ways to indicate that something exists other than direct empiricism, right? Setting the bar to only things you can see with the naked eye is an impossible standard of evidence.

>>1557
>There is no such thing as artificial intelligence
Artificial intelligence is just a series of algorithms and input-output flowcharts. At what point in the process does there even need to be a 'demon' if that demon only amounts to a glorified button-presser?

Ah, wait, it seems the irony of that post was lost on me.

>>1561
>You do realize that there are other ways to indicate that something exists other than direct empiricism, right?
Of course. That exactly the reason why assumptions are labeled "theories".

>>1562
>Artificial intelligence is just a series of algorithms and input-output flowcharts.
Correct. AI is mostly a buzzword.
>At what point in the process does there even need to be a 'demon' if that demon only amounts to a glorified button-presser?
If the idea of demons inside chips is correct, then demons are tasked to move electrical states from buffer to buffer, like NAND and NOR gates and alike.

>>1565
>If the idea of demons inside chips is correct, then demons are tasked to move electrical states from buffer to buffer, like NAND and NOR gates and alike.
We are getting closer and closer to the autistic ASSEMBLER language.

>>1564
>assumptions
Theories are based on evidence and logic, not assumption. An assumption is just a hypothesis.

>>1565
>demons are tasked to move electrical states from buffer to buffer, like NAND and NOR gates and alike.
Why would you even need demons for such a menial, unintelligent task? We have circuit boards.

>>1569
>An assumption is just a hypothesis.
Correct, and in science those hypothesis are labeled theories. Because science is never settled and is always evolving, those assumptions/theories/hypothesis are expected to be demolished and replaced by new ones.

>>1573
An hypothesis is an assumption before research/experimentation, a theory is made to explain data generated from said research. Get it right faggot.

>>1575
And yet to explain the atomic theory, demons may have their place.

>>1573
>in science those hypothesis are labeled theories
That's not science at all. That's just positivism and corporate media manipulation. Don't misconstrue pseudoscience with actual science.
Theories are based on evidence and data. They're subject to change as new discoveries are made, but they're more than just assumptions.

>>1595
It makes you wonder, what the fuck is going on inside those silicon layers and on the disk's platters.

>>1570
>Why would you even need demons for such a menial, unintelligent task? We have circuit boards.
It is possible demons are using the electric devices as portals to our realm.

>>1597
Why would demons need electrical devices to do such a thing? What component of the device is the portal?

>>1600
>What component of the device is the portal?
Did you even watch the video?

>>1602
No, I didn't yet. I was asking you what your take from it was before if I decide that this is worth 10 minutes of my time.

>>1604
Pretty much this.
Also it gets interesting when you consider the almost exponential increasing of hard drives' capacity. When you dismount an old unit and compare it against the new ones, and consider the platter' surface square millimeters involved, there is something really fishy about it.

>>1422
Cyber Punk Cyber Skunk
Cyber Punk Cyber Funk
It rhyme

>>1608
>platter' surface square millimeters involved, there is something really fishy about it
Not really, tbh. Microstructures and material engineering drastically multiply surface area.

>>1610
>Microstructures and material engineering
After the covid psyop, science and scientists lost all credibility. Any claim is in doubt and needs independent assessment, even the very foundations of matter, such us the periodic table.

>>1612
>independent assessment
What kind of independent assessment? Who would do it?
These aren't studies observed by scientists; they're products made by engineers.

>>1612
>the periodic table
What's disputed about the periodic table?

>>1612
>science and scientists lost all credibility. Any claim is in doubt and needs independent assessment
That's what the peer review process is. Scientists review eachothers work all of the time. Sometimes they disagree, and sometimes they reaffirm studies.

>>1613
>>1614
>>1615
It is understandable, but the framework laid to explain the physical world is amiss and with many loose ends..

>>1613
>What kind of independent assessment? Who would do it?
>These aren't studies observed by scientists; they're products made by engineers.
Let us see an example of independent assessment on science. Easily reproducible and ridiculous cheap.
If the experiment can be replicated, then all those "scientists" and "engineers" are making assumptions on the foundations of false theories. Let's watch.

>>1617
>If the experiment can be replicated,
Do you really expect corporations to reveal the designs for their patented products? It's already hard enough to prevent chunks from stealing them.

>>1617
I don't see the part where it implies demons are involved.
Even if they're keep secrets about methods, there's little evidence to suggest that it's anything special other than structural/material engineering on a small scale.

Dall-E is weird

>>1610
>Not really, tbh. Microstructures and material engineering drastically multiply surface area.
>hard drives having insane capacities
That is what we are told. Closer inspection of a mechanic arm and its magnetic reader put in doubt the "scientific" narrative.

>>1643
>Closer inspection of a mechanic arm and its magnetic reader put in doubt the "scientific" narrative.
What are you talking about?

>>1684
I think anon was talking about square surface, track's dimensions, and surface's properties to storage digital data; plus the capacity of the magnetic reader to discriminate among tracks.

>>1685
What does that have to do with demons?

>>1686
I believe it is about fake science not able to perform as published and therefore something fishy inside the hardware.

>>1687
Saying it's demons is still jumping to conclusions.

>>1688
True, but a valid theory nevertheless.

>>1689
A theory is based on evidence and testing. That's just a hypothesis.

>>1690
>A theory is based on evidence and testing
Evidence shows that behind the eyes limitations there is another realm and the beings living there my cross to ours under certain conditions and cause physical manifestations.

>>1691
There's still no evidence to suggest that record players are somehow powered by demons, let alone testing.

>>1691
>Evidence shows
What evidence?

>>1693
Okay, I understand now. You are an atheist and cannot see.

>>1694
I didn't say that, nigger. I am naturally skeptical of ideas that suggest that my phone is powered by demons.
>cannot see
Nobody can "see" that sort of thing, retard. It's not exoteric knowledge, it's esoteric: it is not empirical evidence that you can see. So when you say you have "evidence" of it, please explain what evidence it is you have, because that would be fascinating.

>>1759
I'm sure that crazy abomination is not joking.

>>1759
This is why I'm not an organ donor.

Ironically, this was written by a black guy.

>>1759
>>1759
>The year is 2030.
>Yet another brownout hits the town, so you decide to go for a ride in your new car.
>You hop into your Tesla Dilatrix Sport™ to go buy some soy beer brewed only by the most righteous of crippled nigger trannies. To purchase anything else would result in you receiving a -100 point deduction to your Social Banking Score.
>You're forced to watch an advertisement before your self-driving car can enter drive mode.
>"Did you know that you could receive a 5% tax credit after receiving your proof of sterilization? Learn more at IRS.gov."
>You almost make it to the store only be intercepted by peaceful protestors blockading the streets.
>You try to run out of your car and escape by foot before it is swarmed by future engineers and surgeons, but its pedestrian safety programming renders it immobile. All auxillary functions are disabled. You're trapped.
"Kill whitey!"
>Your windows are smashed and you are dragged out of your car by the mob.
>You fall to the ground before viciously attacking an innocent, unarmed black man's brick with the back of your head as you try to flee.
>Organ donation is now mandatory in the name of social equity and your flesh is used to create faux vaginas for autogynephiles.

>>1767
F

>>1783
Based Jenny pone

>>1845
>a nugget in space.
Nobody told him that space is a hoax.

>>1938
reject modernity, return to single celled organism

>>1941
Reject modernity. Return to stardust.

>>1943
This, but unironically.

Living pod from the Cyberpunk 2020 book.

What does /cyb/ think of biohacking?

>>1948
Tranny meme. It'll only he cool if it can be weaponized to turn my enemies into pony waifus.

>>1949
Why would you consider the technology that can improve human cognition and athletic ability to be a tranny meme? I understand there are a lot of troons in the biohacking scene and that a lot of that stuff is over hyped but that tech is making leaps and bounds. That technology could be very useful and it's biotech that isn't in the hands of major pharmaceutical companies, surely that is something good.

Also with more major advancements it could be used for pony waifu.

>>1948
I think it's interesting enough to warrant it's own thread, if you have anything to say about it.

>>1948
/cyb/ will sacrifice anything to the altar of progress. Take a guess.

>>1956
/cyb/ is not one person. Also, what makes you say that? Everyone here is /mlpol/.

>>1953
I'm not terribly familiar with it, but it I only ever inadvertently stumble across it when it's some random tranny wanting a robot pussy or something. People who are unhappy about their biology and use transhumanism as an autistic cope.
>That technology could be very useful and it's biotech that isn't in the hands of major pharmaceutical companies, surely that is something good.
I just don't trust it and I can only see it being used against my race.
>>1956
This.

>>1948
Sounds kind of like a fantasy buzzword to me, but I admittedly know quite little about it. Genetic engineering takes years, but I guess with advancements in tech it could some day be done quite rapidly.

Pic unrelated because I just visited

>>1958
You know you can buy some of the equipment online, right? Like you can get an open source EEG for $200 or a tDCS device for around $100. It's something anyone can do and it's not terribly expensive.

>>1953
>>1958
I really doubt trannies would get any good use of it until well after it's widely implemented. It's more likely to be used for medicine and crop production.

>>1979
Would it be feasible to make pony waifus within our lifetime?

>>1982
If all necessary resources, funding, researchers and attention were allocated towards it and all ethical standards and obstacles were bulldozed, plausibly.

Space Age fashion mare

I'm surprised that I don't see more bronies on alogs.space/robowaifu. Seems like quadruped sexbots would solve a lot of engineering problems.

>>2146
I've been watching some Cowboy Bebop lately: the setting has every planet in the solar system fully terraformed and inhabited by peaceful, agrarian rural societies by 2070. It's fantasy, but it's also pretty nice.

Environments are so messy in Cowboy Bebop and I think it's interesting that old people react to it with "omg this world feels so organic and lived in and natural" while younger people react with "jesus christ doesnt anyone clean in this universe? Why is everyone a fucking junkie? Christ some kid's playing the harmonica in a smoking room".

>>2147
Cowboy Bebop is the best thing Japan ever made.

>>2149
It is a good show.

>>2136
I get why small viruses aren't considered life but I just don't understand why giant viruses are considered nonliving while intracellular oblobigate bacteria like rickettsia are considered to be alive.

>>2157
It's not really a question of size, but functionality. Viruses have no capability to reproduce on their own, and no biologica funtions other than to stick to and infect host cells. They technically can't even move on their own. They don't move, breed, eat, breath or fuck: they're better described as objects than living things; plausibly the vestige of some bygone cell-signalling method gone horribly wrong.

>>2158
>Viruses have no capability to reproduce on their own, and no biologica funtions other than to stick to and infect host cells.
This is is also true of intracellular obligate bacteria.

>They don't move, breed, eat, breath or fuck: they're better described as objects than living things; plausibly the vestige of some bygone cell-signalling method gone horribly wrong.
Giant viruses have all the nessicary genes for metabolism.

>>2170
>have all the nessicary genes for metabolism.
What? What kinds of metabolic functions do they even have? Do they have any catabolic or anabolic activities?

>>2195
"schi-fi"? I don't understand the joke.

>>2196
The joke is that the board is full of schizos. Schizophrenia starts with /sch/.

>>2197
Nice joke!
"Storing explosions and taking them home to put them somewhere more useful" indeed. We can get hydrogen from places far less dangerous than the sun.

What really happens when you click "I'm not a robot" verification button.

Do you think JEWISH NIGGER BOTS are going to be a thing one day? Just niggering along with swinging arms and spinning hands going "BEEP BOOP, I AM A NIGGER. TAKE ME TO YOUR WHITE WOMEN". It plays shitty rap out of every orfice in its body at once. It runs into walls. It runs into people and attacks them and calls the cops on them if they can't be beat by the niggerbot. Nobody can hack the program to make it hate niggers.

On the Esoteric Aspects of Technology.

>>2395
What is it that suggests demons are waveforms?

>>2395
The idea is unsettling and the implications on modern technology are obvious.
Reeeeeeeeeeeee

>>2395
That face looks cool. Got any more shit like that?

>>2395
>the intersection of computer technology and what we knot about demons suggests that demons are waveforms
yeah, I'm gonna need a source on that because that sounds pretty fake and gay.

>>2399
>that sounds pretty fake and gay
The proof is evident and pretty straightforward. Everything that manifest into the physical realm has an associated waveform, a crude example of that is the intrinsic resonance of all matter.
Physics and Magick 101.

>>2400
Associated waveform of what? What is creating the wave? What is the frequency of this wave? What is happening enough to show a frequency at all?

You're not using words that are commonly defined, you're using words from Deepak Chopra and getting smug that we don't understand your gobbledygook.

>>2401
>You're not using words that are commonly defined
I'm sorry, I don't have the proper reference at hand but I found something that might help.

>Resonant Frequencies
>Every physical system has a resonant frequency.
https://julianstaylor.medium.com/resonant-frequencies-584fdd5ccb91

>Explained: AS350 Eurocopter Helicopter Self-Destructs - 1:29 long
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FeXjhUEXlc

>Helicopter Tested to Destruction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcdYIkrQVzA

The above gives you a glimpse on the mundane scale, the Earth has its own frequency at macro scale, and going to the micro scale we enter into the electric semiconductors' realm where funny things begin to happen. Suffice to say that if demonic activity can be felt, then that presence must be accompanied by a resonance, also the inverse might be valid.

>>2402
Thanks anon, I guess I'll look into it this week. Also, forgot to mention, I'm not the anon who said it was fake and gay. I'm genuinely interested in the possibility, just not convinced yet.

>>2403
Remember, vibration (resonance) is energy manifested in many forms. Look at the graphic for the whole spectrum.

>>2395
>>2400
>Everything that's a wave is spiritual.
In the days of the birth of the internet a group of people did an experiment to banish any demons (paranormal/spiritual beings) from hardware/software. Things crashed and the connection cut before the planet wide banishment occurred fully.
There is correlation of spiritual matters and material matters that's been known for ages.
>>2402
>Waves can do cool stuff.
Like matter and waveforms, beings that are spiritual do also exhibit those qualities barring the stranger ones but those ones aren't a concern right now.
What can be tested is physical effects of stuff made of matter behaving differently when compared to matter that has such beings and when compared to matter in a zone designed to block such beings.
A huge issue is accounting for all the variables and errors.
There's much more than just String Theory but also Spiritual.

>>2405
To clarify pinning everything as demons (or anything spiritual) be physical waveforms is a stretch without any evidence.
What is known is that the physical and genuinely spiritual do interact.

>>2406
>is a stretch without any evidence
Sure, I agree. That said, intuition and telepathy lack evidence too, and yet we feel and even use them everyday.

>>2407
Intuition is just pattern recognition passed down between generations.

>>2408
Not quite.
Intuition doesn't depend on the senses, and can alert on something happening remotely. Some people have it, some don't.

>>1488
I second >>1493 over there in respecting your digits and congratulating you on an absolutely fantastic post.

I'm trying to work through a certain kind of religion-related thing here, and I'm seeing a ton of new layers to just about every idea. Your post really hits the spot on a number of angles and made connections in my head that I'd never made before. Thanks for that.

Top 50 websites. November 2022.

Dividing by 0 (zero) with a 1950 calculator.

>>2538
I believe it is the same mechanism used by other mechanical brands, the machine goes crazy for 2 or 3 minutes and returns ERROR printed in red ink, if I remember well.

>>2542
Was the monkey alive? this is some nightmare shit.

>>2542
This is what happens when money mixes with science, all the moral boundaries are jettisoned in a blink.

>>2543
>>2544
They already wired multiple monkey brains together to have them do things. And it worked, the brains (monkeys) were able to cooperate on tasks. That was about ten or so years ago.
>>2542
Sounds roughly correct for what they're aiming for.

>>2545
I think the point is to create coherent messages from neural networks. It's pretty groundbreaking for the future of cybernetics and/or other computation. Being able to translate an image from electrodes hooked to brainwaves is a pretty big deal. Those images are clearly faces, and recognizably monkey faces (the dark eyeholes, pronounced browline and pale face surrounded by darker colors are a dead giveaway): the machine was able to interpret images from the monkey's memory and imagination by analyzing the part of its brain that produces abstract thoughts.

>>2545
They were alive then?
>>2546
Fuck that shit, its so dystopic and you are simping for it.. i don't want these faggots to be able to read thoughts.

>>2547
>you are simping for it..
Learn to read, faggot. What part of my post said that I approved of this? I said it was a breakthrough, not that it's good.
>i don't want these faggots to be able to read thoughts
Well, it looks like they already can, to a certain extent.

>>2547
>They were alive then?
Yes, or at least mostly alive. If they were dead they wouldn't have thoughts to read.

>>2410
A lot of that is retroactive confirmation bias, a subconscious coping method that helps people deal with the unknown and unrelenting chaos of the Clownworld we live in.

Ahem.
I'm sure most of (you) have no idea what are these.

>>2575
I remember cassettes.

>>2576
And this?

>>2577
That I am too young to remember.

>>2581
It's the dad of the cassette. It was called tape magazine if I remember well.