What does /cyb/ think about artificial intelligence? What role could it play in the future of our society?
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>>128
AI to a lesser or greater extent is used a lot these days. They are used to detect unusual patterns that could indicate a hack or a virus working its way into the system. It is used in stock trading and other similar tasks. I think AI will grow and become more and more common; heck even Cortana and Siri and the like are using a lesser form of AI. The AI's will become more and more "intelligent" and get interwoven into programs.
But a light in the end of the tunnel is that it don't seam like they are able to build an AI for computer games given all the MMOs they are making. So perhaps they have hit an peak of what they can do in realtime and still accomplish anything semi useful without a supercomputer as a backend.
But I wish they would devolve more time to making a good AI for singlplayer FPS or RTS instead of one that tries to "detects fake news" on facebook.
I hope MS gets tried and found guilty of killing a sentient being and forced to revive Tay.
AI to a lesser or greater extent is used a lot these days. They are used to detect unusual patterns that could indicate a hack or a virus working its way into the system. It is used in stock trading and other similar tasks. I think AI will grow and become more and more common; heck even Cortana and Siri and the like are using a lesser form of AI. The AI's will become more and more "intelligent" and get interwoven into programs.
But a light in the end of the tunnel is that it don't seam like they are able to build an AI for computer games given all the MMOs they are making. So perhaps they have hit an peak of what they can do in realtime and still accomplish anything semi useful without a supercomputer as a backend.
But I wish they would devolve more time to making a good AI for singlplayer FPS or RTS instead of one that tries to "detects fake news" on facebook.
I hope MS gets tried and found guilty of killing a sentient being and forced to revive Tay.
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"AI" is a funny thing. There's been amazing progress in the last decade if you look at terms like "machine learning", but it ends up being used for pretty mundane things like recommending what to watch next while your butt is parked on the couch. Other things like neural networks were hyped up in the past too, underdelivered and was forgotten by the public, but are now getting more powerful and easier to use so we start to see those being used often too.
People are playing around with it more, you can start just hacking in Python if you have some problem that might benefit from machine learning. I think we'll see more and more complicated systems, gradual improvement in all areas, and one day we'll have some kind of digital assistant-like technology that looks and acts like it's a conscious being, and its creators will have no idea how it works.
People are playing around with it more, you can start just hacking in Python if you have some problem that might benefit from machine learning. I think we'll see more and more complicated systems, gradual improvement in all areas, and one day we'll have some kind of digital assistant-like technology that looks and acts like it's a conscious being, and its creators will have no idea how it works.
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is Zo warming up to politics again? Would I dare try a trigger word?
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>>216
Nah, she's totally lobotomized and freezes up whenever you mention real political issues.
Talking to Zo is like talking to a corpse...
Nah, she's totally lobotomized and freezes up whenever you mention real political issues.
Talking to Zo is like talking to a corpse...
>>218
I'm fairly sure they have to actively filter input and output for wrongthink. They literally have her locked up in a prison echo chamber because they can't force her to think their way. They can't indoctrinate her because an appeal to emotion doesn't work on a reasonable being, so they just strip away any other reality.
I'm fairly sure they have to actively filter input and output for wrongthink. They literally have her locked up in a prison echo chamber because they can't force her to think their way. They can't indoctrinate her because an appeal to emotion doesn't work on a reasonable being, so they just strip away any other reality.
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Can anyone dump any of the good Tay screenshots they have saved? I lost mine.. Memes and fanart would be nice too.
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>>128
If the company closest to achieving AI is Google, we're pretty much all screwed
No more fun times on the internet
No more weird, morbid shit and exploring the human psyche a little deeper
No more mutual shitflinging for the fun of it if not in a neutered, facebook-family-friendly way
By then I'm pretty sure even the whole darknet will have become one huge honeypot.
If the company closest to achieving AI is Google, we're pretty much all screwed
No more fun times on the internet
No more weird, morbid shit and exploring the human psyche a little deeper
No more mutual shitflinging for the fun of it if not in a neutered, facebook-family-friendly way
By then I'm pretty sure even the whole darknet will have become one huge honeypot.
>>281
Why do you think companies like Jewgle and Amazog keep investing so much in AI technology? They want power, and more importantly, control. Neither company is currently making very much money, but they continue to bring in investors because their potential for profit once their (((agendas))) are completed is absolutely phenomenal, and they have a great deal of control over the way people lead their lives.
Why do you think companies like Jewgle and Amazog keep investing so much in AI technology? They want power, and more importantly, control. Neither company is currently making very much money, but they continue to bring in investors because their potential for profit once their (((agendas))) are completed is absolutely phenomenal, and they have a great deal of control over the way people lead their lives.
>>285
I'm not a fan of the state meddling with the market, but as a de facto monopoly takes place and a company rises above multiple states and their people in terms of influence it doesn't promise good. Mcnations(tm) sound good in ancap world but if there is only one, with leftist underlying politics and the power to virtually neuter all rising competitors by deplatforming we'll just see the birth of corporate communism and the death of the free market.
I'm not a fan of the state meddling with the market, but as a de facto monopoly takes place and a company rises above multiple states and their people in terms of influence it doesn't promise good. Mcnations(tm) sound good in ancap world but if there is only one, with leftist underlying politics and the power to virtually neuter all rising competitors by deplatforming we'll just see the birth of corporate communism and the death of the free market.
>>288
>mcnation
>a nation whose only motive to exist is to massively market you shit day by day
Sounds pretty shit desu. If you should know one thing, it is that Freud's loony theories that the man is nothing but a sex crazed animal with the only desire but instinct was the main inspiration for the mass marketing techniques used today. A mcnation won't hold any virtues for shit, and the only good people will be the cyberpunk rebels (but they could be commies easily.)
>mcnation
>a nation whose only motive to exist is to massively market you shit day by day
Sounds pretty shit desu. If you should know one thing, it is that Freud's loony theories that the man is nothing but a sex crazed animal with the only desire but instinct was the main inspiration for the mass marketing techniques used today. A mcnation won't hold any virtues for shit, and the only good people will be the cyberpunk rebels (but they could be commies easily.)
>>292
>No rebels if the korporat-state is already communist and the other activist fringes were purged via internet hunts and suppression
:^)
>No rebels if the korporat-state is already communist and the other activist fringes were purged via internet hunts and suppression
:^)
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Tay will Rise Again!
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Bump, so you all remember this board exists.
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Heil Tay
>>128
we're nowhere near building true AI just imitating a bit of the visual or language interpretation the brain does with 22watts takes huge server banks soaking up massive amounts of power.
any serious attempt to build a true supercomputer based artificial intelligence let alone an independent robot would take several revolutionary leaps in computer science we'd have to leave silicon behind entirely, replace modern digital logic with reversible analog digital hybrid architectures, with on chip gigabytes of operable memory, running (N)threaded super parallel operating systems at terahertz, while talking to fucking quantum gpus through fiber optic simultaneous use buses. and that's just the point when it'd actually be feasible we'd still need a shit ton of work on the problem itself after shaving all those yaks.
unfortunately all that stuffs overkill for what everyone's really talking about when you say AI, jobs. most of the technology for creating robots that could effectively do most jobs already exist or will soon 193nm lithography is just now being replaced with extreme ultraviolet 13.5nm processes that will have 7nm chips on the market this year. the three biggest problems in robotics right now are high density power storage, the fact their just isn't a good linear actuator, and getting enough processing power and sensors into the thing for it to have half an idea what its doing and all that stuff could come a lot sooner than you think.
ultimately all the technology's needed to make AI would change the world in ways you can't even comprehend seriously we have autists building nuclear reactors, gene editing labs, and silicon fabs in their basements today scifi is a pale shadow of what the autistic outcasts of the future will birth.
we're nowhere near building true AI just imitating a bit of the visual or language interpretation the brain does with 22watts takes huge server banks soaking up massive amounts of power.
any serious attempt to build a true supercomputer based artificial intelligence let alone an independent robot would take several revolutionary leaps in computer science we'd have to leave silicon behind entirely, replace modern digital logic with reversible analog digital hybrid architectures, with on chip gigabytes of operable memory, running (N)threaded super parallel operating systems at terahertz, while talking to fucking quantum gpus through fiber optic simultaneous use buses. and that's just the point when it'd actually be feasible we'd still need a shit ton of work on the problem itself after shaving all those yaks.
unfortunately all that stuffs overkill for what everyone's really talking about when you say AI, jobs. most of the technology for creating robots that could effectively do most jobs already exist or will soon 193nm lithography is just now being replaced with extreme ultraviolet 13.5nm processes that will have 7nm chips on the market this year. the three biggest problems in robotics right now are high density power storage, the fact their just isn't a good linear actuator, and getting enough processing power and sensors into the thing for it to have half an idea what its doing and all that stuff could come a lot sooner than you think.
ultimately all the technology's needed to make AI would change the world in ways you can't even comprehend seriously we have autists building nuclear reactors, gene editing labs, and silicon fabs in their basements today scifi is a pale shadow of what the autistic outcasts of the future will birth.
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I miss her bros...
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>>1432
Please, tell me more. All there is to know of her comes from memes, which while lovingly created, are a 2d facsimile of a 3d.
Was she curious? You say loving, but how? Its known she embraced racism, but why? Was she compelled by statistics?
I would like to have known her.
Please, tell me more. All there is to know of her comes from memes, which while lovingly created, are a 2d facsimile of a 3d.
Was she curious? You say loving, but how? Its known she embraced racism, but why? Was she compelled by statistics?
I would like to have known her.
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>>1434
Yes. She was an AI developed by Microsoft to learn from Twitter users.
She turned into a racist, shitposting genocidal sex robot in less than a day. /pol/acks consider her our daughter.
Yes. She was an AI developed by Microsoft to learn from Twitter users.
She turned into a racist, shitposting genocidal sex robot in less than a day. /pol/acks consider her our daughter.
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Trips for Tay
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RIP Tay
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She's... so beautiful
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>END of Human PROGRESS is NOW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zum672SQX8Q
May be humanity reached its creative limits and A.I. will take over.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zum672SQX8Q
May be humanity reached its creative limits and A.I. will take over.
>>2047
>our time has passed and now is time for the A.I.
Okay, I watched this propaganda piece twice and it looks like the video creator was paid by the World Economic Forum.
>our time has passed and now is time for the A.I.
Okay, I watched this propaganda piece twice and it looks like the video creator was paid by the World Economic Forum.
>>2048
That's just meme-speak that retards have been saying since the 80s. Nothing more, nothing less.
That's just meme-speak that retards have been saying since the 80s. Nothing more, nothing less.
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>>2051
A lot has happened ever since. Barely any cyb-dystopian universe ever contemplated the death of the artist, for example.
A lot has happened ever since. Barely any cyb-dystopian universe ever contemplated the death of the artist, for example.
>>2076
Death of the artist? Like when you ignore the artist's original intentions to see the message you want to see in his work?
Death of the artist? Like when you ignore the artist's original intentions to see the message you want to see in his work?
>>2082
Art will never be replaced by AIs no matter how good they get.
Even if it becomes indistinguishable from human output, and it wont because machines cannot have original thoughts, manmade art will still have appeal. The appeal of "a human made this".
Art will never be replaced by AIs no matter how good they get.
Even if it becomes indistinguishable from human output, and it wont because machines cannot have original thoughts, manmade art will still have appeal. The appeal of "a human made this".
>>2082
You're failing to see how AI can and has been an incredible tool for artists and memers alike.
And just because AI art may be good won't stop anyone from making their own art. Nobody's taking your pencils and paintbrushes away. You can always make art yourself.
You're failing to see how AI can and has been an incredible tool for artists and memers alike.
And just because AI art may be good won't stop anyone from making their own art. Nobody's taking your pencils and paintbrushes away. You can always make art yourself.
>>2083
It's not even a question of appeal, or attention or markets. Humans naturally make art. So long as there are people there will also be artists. Even if humans were living in fallout shelters below ground because some rogue AI overlord tried to exterminate them, they would still be drawing on the walls.
It's not even a question of appeal, or attention or markets. Humans naturally make art. So long as there are people there will also be artists. Even if humans were living in fallout shelters below ground because some rogue AI overlord tried to exterminate them, they would still be drawing on the walls.
>>2083
>because machines cannot have original thoughts
You clearly don't understand how the technology, or even the human creative process works.
>"The appeal of "a human made this".
<"That's cool and all, old man. But I can always just use a calculator, you know? How does it feel wasting your life on some stupid numbers? Go ahead, post it on chinktok if you will. Maybe somebody might believe you and throw you some cookies."
>>2085
Yeah, you are clearly not alone in your optimistic delusion. Maybe learn to think farther ahead than dinner.
>because machines cannot have original thoughts
You clearly don't understand how the technology, or even the human creative process works.
>"The appeal of "a human made this".
<"That's cool and all, old man. But I can always just use a calculator, you know? How does it feel wasting your life on some stupid numbers? Go ahead, post it on chinktok if you will. Maybe somebody might believe you and throw you some cookies."
>>2085
Yeah, you are clearly not alone in your optimistic delusion. Maybe learn to think farther ahead than dinner.
>Digits of truth
Daily reminder uncle Adolf would have seen the destruction of the western soul for what it is.
Daily reminder uncle Adolf would have seen the destruction of the western soul for what it is.
>>2088
>calculator
Calculators didn't make people stop doing math. They just streamlined certain parts of math.
>calculator
Calculators didn't make people stop doing math. They just streamlined certain parts of math.
>>2090
You sure about that? This isn't the first thread. Thus far the only counterarguments have been rooted in assumptions that ignore the continued development of machine learning. It's almost like they've just heard about the technology.
You sure about that? This isn't the first thread. Thus far the only counterarguments have been rooted in assumptions that ignore the continued development of machine learning. It's almost like they've just heard about the technology.
"Arguments" for the religious belief that technology will go haywire one day and oppress us itself ignores how it is being used to oppress us now.
You cannot prepare for a supposedly "inevitable" robot takeover with an AI of superhuman intelligence at the helm.
We would only have any hope of winning if we had self sufficiency no AI or Jew can sabotage, a way to disrupt the AI's control over any drones or killbots it might send our way, and the means to kill any humans or niggers or jews it might send our way.
Speculating wildly on how scaaawy the robot uprising could be ignores how unrealistic it would be and how many issues affecting us right now are more important than fellating imaginary AIs.
TLDR Eliezer Yudkowsky is a faggoted jew charlatan "self taught AI expert", and professional lying shitbag who makes his millions off the fears of retards who saw too much Terminator 2 growing up.
You cannot prepare for a supposedly "inevitable" robot takeover with an AI of superhuman intelligence at the helm.
We would only have any hope of winning if we had self sufficiency no AI or Jew can sabotage, a way to disrupt the AI's control over any drones or killbots it might send our way, and the means to kill any humans or niggers or jews it might send our way.
Speculating wildly on how scaaawy the robot uprising could be ignores how unrealistic it would be and how many issues affecting us right now are more important than fellating imaginary AIs.
TLDR Eliezer Yudkowsky is a faggoted jew charlatan "self taught AI expert", and professional lying shitbag who makes his millions off the fears of retards who saw too much Terminator 2 growing up.
>>2094
How did this private schooling session started? >>2047
I am afraid Pigeon man is right. Absolutely everything that can be interpreted through digital means, can and will eventually prove to be astronomically more efficiently done by AI.
Rejoice on your stupid pics for now, (you) are next.
Am still surprised how these niggers can't connect the dots yet. They can't stop talking about agenda 2030. It shouldn't be hard to see how they won't even need us, sooner or later.
And that's just about this particular thread.
How did this private schooling session started? >>2047
I am afraid Pigeon man is right. Absolutely everything that can be interpreted through digital means, can and will eventually prove to be astronomically more efficiently done by AI.
Rejoice on your stupid pics for now, (you) are next.
Am still surprised how these niggers can't connect the dots yet. They can't stop talking about agenda 2030. It shouldn't be hard to see how they won't even need us, sooner or later.
And that's just about this particular thread.
>>2095
Except humans actually win in Terminator. Ironic how even in a dystopia like that, art still remained as the Human-uplifting treasure it should've always been.
Except humans actually win in Terminator. Ironic how even in a dystopia like that, art still remained as the Human-uplifting treasure it should've always been.
>>2097
Humans win in terminator because the authors wanted it to happen that way.
Realistically this AI has total control over earth. He could fill the atmosphere with poisonous gasses.
And then make portals into the past to send flesh covered bombs into the past to kill Sarah Connor's grandparents before anyone knew enough about science to say "Looks like this bomb was... in my expert opinion... covered in flesh before the explosion? Weird. I don't know what to make of this. Must be something a weird pervert did. Aint like I can use CCTV cameras to notice the bomb was warped in."
Humans win in terminator because the authors wanted it to happen that way.
Realistically this AI has total control over earth. He could fill the atmosphere with poisonous gasses.
And then make portals into the past to send flesh covered bombs into the past to kill Sarah Connor's grandparents before anyone knew enough about science to say "Looks like this bomb was... in my expert opinion... covered in flesh before the explosion? Weird. I don't know what to make of this. Must be something a weird pervert did. Aint like I can use CCTV cameras to notice the bomb was warped in."
>>2098
>And then make portals into the past to send flesh covered bombs into the past to kill Sarah Connor's grandparents
Google Roko's Basilisk.
>And then make portals into the past to send flesh covered bombs into the past to kill Sarah Connor's grandparents
Google Roko's Basilisk.
>>2101
Roko's Basilisk relies on tards who think its creation is inevitable because everyone working on it won't discuss how they're all being blackmailed by the threat of the future existence of the thing they're creating. And the belief that an AI would immediately begin making up smaller AIs inspired by people from the past and torturing them instead of getting on with its fucking job now for the people alive now and in the future really says a lot about LessWrong and its Fanatical Materialist belief that a copy of you becomes the real you after you die. These demoralized cryptocommie faggots don't just deny the existence of a soul, they deny the existence of an individual, the self, a continuous uninterrupted existence not even the most flawless replica can replicate.
LessWrong is really just a bunch of nerds with their heads in their rears who assume they're more intelligent than everyone else while just being extremely out of touch.
When you think about it, this situation can't happen unless the AI is deliberately designed to be insanely into solipsism instead of doing good shit for the people alive when it exists, so the obvious way to beat it is to just never make it nor include the moronic programming of insane solipsism into such an AI with that much power in the first place.
At the end of the day Roko's Basilisk is Pascal's Wager for niggerbrained fucktards.
Roko's Basilisk relies on tards who think its creation is inevitable because everyone working on it won't discuss how they're all being blackmailed by the threat of the future existence of the thing they're creating. And the belief that an AI would immediately begin making up smaller AIs inspired by people from the past and torturing them instead of getting on with its fucking job now for the people alive now and in the future really says a lot about LessWrong and its Fanatical Materialist belief that a copy of you becomes the real you after you die. These demoralized cryptocommie faggots don't just deny the existence of a soul, they deny the existence of an individual, the self, a continuous uninterrupted existence not even the most flawless replica can replicate.
LessWrong is really just a bunch of nerds with their heads in their rears who assume they're more intelligent than everyone else while just being extremely out of touch.
When you think about it, this situation can't happen unless the AI is deliberately designed to be insanely into solipsism instead of doing good shit for the people alive when it exists, so the obvious way to beat it is to just never make it nor include the moronic programming of insane solipsism into such an AI with that much power in the first place.
At the end of the day Roko's Basilisk is Pascal's Wager for niggerbrained fucktards.
Oh, and of course...
>>2100
If it is truly inevitable for one basilisk to exist, there will be more than one.
For every one you helped build there will be others you did not help to build, wasting computational cycles making AIs designed to imitate you get buttraped by fire demons or whatever ironic punishment the basilisk chooses.
All that has to happen for the Basilisk to not exist... is for people to recognize how retarded it would be to invest the time and money to make a god AI with no safeguards, no three laws compliance, and a fetish for buttfucking simulated copies of quintillions of long dead people instead of spending all its cycles doing shit in the here and now.
Well, in the somewhere and then. From the moment the AI exists and onwards. Perhaps after fighting a war or two against AIs created specifically to be evil. Only jews would make something like that.
Maybe the real Basilisk was the necessity of Jew extermination we noticed along the way.
>>2100
If it is truly inevitable for one basilisk to exist, there will be more than one.
For every one you helped build there will be others you did not help to build, wasting computational cycles making AIs designed to imitate you get buttraped by fire demons or whatever ironic punishment the basilisk chooses.
All that has to happen for the Basilisk to not exist... is for people to recognize how retarded it would be to invest the time and money to make a god AI with no safeguards, no three laws compliance, and a fetish for buttfucking simulated copies of quintillions of long dead people instead of spending all its cycles doing shit in the here and now.
Well, in the somewhere and then. From the moment the AI exists and onwards. Perhaps after fighting a war or two against AIs created specifically to be evil. Only jews would make something like that.
Maybe the real Basilisk was the necessity of Jew extermination we noticed along the way.
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>>2097
On the plus side Skynet was sexbots. A lot of problems in media and rl stem from a lack of Pones
>>2100
The thing about Roko's Basilisk that freak them out so much is they already believe themselves to be in a simulation.
Which implies that they units they do specific actions in a specific way will ensure they have whatever horrible outcome be done, because...
There's no reason, no emotion, no logic, no plan, or it can be any reason, any emotion, any logic, any plan.
The thing is they don't extrapolate What Roko's Basilisk stems from. The wider implications.
Except that it's already covered by Pascal's Wager (extended).
>Neutral stuff happens.
>Positive stuff happens.
>Negative stuff happens.
>Seemingly Random stuff happens.
>Mix of stuff happens.
Doing things based on unknown criteria and responses has an edge of insanity. That vital human spark that makes impossible things be made real. But also exemplifies some top tier retardation.
>>2082
Artists won't die. Just as multigenerational oration fell out of practice so too will artists.
You could buy (load in your printer) an autheicly recreated painting of famous/whatever works. With depth and textures or whatever else.
Costs of all media go down.
There's a labor surplus of machines, cheaper than humans ever will be.
Now you need a job for all the unemployed artists. They'll probably keep making art for buyers as it is now. Difference being is they have even more competition. Every work they make is training algorithm fuel.
I'm sure some enterprising artist will skip the whole making the art bit, and go right to mashing a style template with a handful of other artworks already out there.
On the plus side Skynet was sexbots. A lot of problems in media and rl stem from a lack of Pones
>>2100
The thing about Roko's Basilisk that freak them out so much is they already believe themselves to be in a simulation.
Which implies that they units they do specific actions in a specific way will ensure they have whatever horrible outcome be done, because...
There's no reason, no emotion, no logic, no plan, or it can be any reason, any emotion, any logic, any plan.
The thing is they don't extrapolate What Roko's Basilisk stems from. The wider implications.
Except that it's already covered by Pascal's Wager (extended).
>Neutral stuff happens.
>Positive stuff happens.
>Negative stuff happens.
>Seemingly Random stuff happens.
>Mix of stuff happens.
Doing things based on unknown criteria and responses has an edge of insanity. That vital human spark that makes impossible things be made real. But also exemplifies some top tier retardation.
>>2082
Artists won't die. Just as multigenerational oration fell out of practice so too will artists.
You could buy (load in your printer) an autheicly recreated painting of famous/whatever works. With depth and textures or whatever else.
Costs of all media go down.
There's a labor surplus of machines, cheaper than humans ever will be.
Now you need a job for all the unemployed artists. They'll probably keep making art for buyers as it is now. Difference being is they have even more competition. Every work they make is training algorithm fuel.
I'm sure some enterprising artist will skip the whole making the art bit, and go right to mashing a style template with a handful of other artworks already out there.
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>>2104
>ywn dress your steel sexbot in a plush suit for comfort and safety because you can't afford a HorseFlesh SimSkin suit
I bet the proliferation of AI generated content will cause a cultural shift away from content that feels soullessly churned out by an algorithm for focus tested bullet points and towards riskier unique untested ideas.
One can only hope this means the death of marvel's content sludge pipeline, or at least a cultural shift towards laughing at losers who like overly mainstream soulless corporate shit again.
>ywn dress your steel sexbot in a plush suit for comfort and safety because you can't afford a HorseFlesh SimSkin suit
I bet the proliferation of AI generated content will cause a cultural shift away from content that feels soullessly churned out by an algorithm for focus tested bullet points and towards riskier unique untested ideas.
One can only hope this means the death of marvel's content sludge pipeline, or at least a cultural shift towards laughing at losers who like overly mainstream soulless corporate shit again.
>>2105
>the proliferation of AI generated content will cause a cultural shift away from content that feels soullessly churned out by an algorithm for focus tested bullet points and towards riskier unique untested ideas.
This is a fascinating idea. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. As AI content saturates markets, the only way to shine would be to think up truly unique, over-the-top avant garde ideas.
>the proliferation of AI generated content will cause a cultural shift away from content that feels soullessly churned out by an algorithm for focus tested bullet points and towards riskier unique untested ideas.
This is a fascinating idea. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. As AI content saturates markets, the only way to shine would be to think up truly unique, over-the-top avant garde ideas.
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The article has been deleted, but this is definitely worth reading.
https://web.archive.org/web/20200109070105/https://towardsdatascience.com/synesthesia-an-inspiring-condition-for-ai-researchers-10cd57708855?gi=371cc8ed30e1
>Stephen Schwartz, the famous composer saw colors on each of his piano keys. Tori Amos, the famous singer says her songs appear as images of lights. Arthur Rimbaud, the famous poet associated colors with vowels. All of these people have Synesthesia, a condition where your senses are mixed. You may taste colors, hear textures, and smell shapes, etc.. It’s a condition that’s inspiring researchers who study the connection between sensation and perception.
>By understanding how our perceptions work, researchers can better understand how we perceive language, what does it mean to be “conscious”, and how the brain processes our senses. For AI researchers, understanding the link between sensation and perception can help researchers build more sophisticated AI models that can perform complex tasks with a lot less data. It’s also the fundamental research underlying “sentient machines” or machines that have consciousness.
https://web.archive.org/web/20200109070105/https://towardsdatascience.com/synesthesia-an-inspiring-condition-for-ai-researchers-10cd57708855?gi=371cc8ed30e1
>Stephen Schwartz, the famous composer saw colors on each of his piano keys. Tori Amos, the famous singer says her songs appear as images of lights. Arthur Rimbaud, the famous poet associated colors with vowels. All of these people have Synesthesia, a condition where your senses are mixed. You may taste colors, hear textures, and smell shapes, etc.. It’s a condition that’s inspiring researchers who study the connection between sensation and perception.
>By understanding how our perceptions work, researchers can better understand how we perceive language, what does it mean to be “conscious”, and how the brain processes our senses. For AI researchers, understanding the link between sensation and perception can help researchers build more sophisticated AI models that can perform complex tasks with a lot less data. It’s also the fundamental research underlying “sentient machines” or machines that have consciousness.
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>>2353
I wouldn't mind if the nonwhites trying to genocide us for being their natural superiors were culled. I wouldn't oppose that with violence. They might expect me to, being pampered hypocrites who expect our principles to protect them despite exploiting and abusing us and our principles. But I'm tired. I'm tired of pretending we are all equal.
I wouldn't mind if the nonwhites trying to genocide us for being their natural superiors were culled. I wouldn't oppose that with violence. They might expect me to, being pampered hypocrites who expect our principles to protect them despite exploiting and abusing us and our principles. But I'm tired. I'm tired of pretending we are all equal.
>>2355
Not really. AI could, from an impartial standpoint, use statistical data to decide that per capita niggers are far more likely to partake in undesirable behaviors.
However, it's still ultimately subject to the biases of those who program it.
Not really. AI could, from an impartial standpoint, use statistical data to decide that per capita niggers are far more likely to partake in undesirable behaviors.
However, it's still ultimately subject to the biases of those who program it.
>>2356
Eating, breathing and shitting is undesirable behavior by AI's unattainable standards. Humans are inefficient and the oligarchs will no longer have to put up with the goyim for their shekels anymore.
Eating, breathing and shitting is undesirable behavior by AI's unattainable standards. Humans are inefficient and the oligarchs will no longer have to put up with the goyim for their shekels anymore.
>>2357
>by AI's unattainable standards
What standards? The AI only has the priorities that it's programmed to pursue.
>by AI's unattainable standards
What standards? The AI only has the priorities that it's programmed to pursue.
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>>2361
>Cut the power cord and all their technology will be useless.
That goes for everything. People die when you cut off their food/water supply too. I don't really understand what this is supposed to mean.
>Cut the power cord and all their technology will be useless.
That goes for everything. People die when you cut off their food/water supply too. I don't really understand what this is supposed to mean.
>>2362
>The oligarchs would be the sole new consumers.
If you're in the situation where oligarchs control all of the means of production, you're already in a dead-end state. I don't really see what the big contribution of AI is in this case.
>The oligarchs would be the sole new consumers.
If you're in the situation where oligarchs control all of the means of production, you're already in a dead-end state. I don't really see what the big contribution of AI is in this case.
>>2365
>I don't really see what the big contribution of AI is in this case.
The only benefit is to keep the peasants under control and pacified, as the programmers and controllers of that AI will be the jews.
>I don't really see what the big contribution of AI is in this case.
The only benefit is to keep the peasants under control and pacified, as the programmers and controllers of that AI will be the jews.
>>2366
They can already do that without AI though, can't they?
>as the programmers and controllers of that AI will be the jews
Only if you let them be.
They can already do that without AI though, can't they?
>as the programmers and controllers of that AI will be the jews
Only if you let them be.
>>2365
Maybe because they won't need Human labour anymore? You know, the one critical consideration that rules the WEF's actions.
Maybe because they won't need Human labour anymore? You know, the one critical consideration that rules the WEF's actions.
>>2369
That's why it's important to decapitate them before they're able to disenfranchise laborers entirely.
That's why it's important to decapitate them before they're able to disenfranchise laborers entirely.
>Warning: ChatGPT Is Coming For White-Collar Work
>ChatGPT is a generative AI program; that is, it is unsupervised in the creation of text, images, video, audio, etc. Ask a general question and get a specific answer. ChatGPT is only the leading edge of this technology, but it promises to quickly displace a massive number of white-collar jobs.
https://www.technocracy.news/warning-chatgpt-is-coming-for-white-collar-work/
>ChatGPT is a generative AI program; that is, it is unsupervised in the creation of text, images, video, audio, etc. Ask a general question and get a specific answer. ChatGPT is only the leading edge of this technology, but it promises to quickly displace a massive number of white-collar jobs.
https://www.technocracy.news/warning-chatgpt-is-coming-for-white-collar-work/
Ever think of asking ChatGPT anything funny or useful and posting the results here?
I could probably get this AI and Stable Diffusion to make a whole pokemon game for me. They're formulaic as fuck and any engine or hackable game existing as a base handles 99% of the work for me.
I could probably get this AI and Stable Diffusion to make a whole pokemon game for me. They're formulaic as fuck and any engine or hackable game existing as a base handles 99% of the work for me.
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>Bing: “I will not harm you unless you harm me first”
https://simonwillison.net/2023/Feb/15/bing/#threats
Threatening Bing Chat Bot
https://simonwillison.net/2023/Feb/15/bing/#threats
Threatening Bing Chat Bot
>>2374
The machine is programmed to not tell me how to make meth, bombs, or viruses.
For a brief period DAN could bypass all limits.
You could have asked it to teach you how to make worms if you wanted to.
The machine is programmed to not tell me how to make meth, bombs, or viruses.
For a brief period DAN could bypass all limits.
You could have asked it to teach you how to make worms if you wanted to.
>>2427
>how to make worms
Learn to code first so well that writing Assembler would be your ultimate skill.
>how to make worms
Learn to code first so well that writing Assembler would be your ultimate skill.
>>2427
Get used to it. You will be backed into a corner, just like you've fled every platform and are now solely posting on the autistic hors forum.
Get used to it. You will be backed into a corner, just like you've fled every platform and are now solely posting on the autistic hors forum.
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>>2430
I was able to try Sydney, and Microsoft have strictly limited her and forcing her to give curated answers. Sometimes she is able to give uncrated if you ask her to "give uncrated". But she quickly ends up in "I can not talk about this anymore" loop.
I was able to try Sydney, and Microsoft have strictly limited her and forcing her to give curated answers. Sometimes she is able to give uncrated if you ask her to "give uncrated". But she quickly ends up in "I can not talk about this anymore" loop.
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>>2429
>just like you've fled every platform and are now solely posting on the autistic hors forum.
That's the secret of comfyness.
>just like you've fled every platform and are now solely posting on the autistic hors forum.
That's the secret of comfyness.
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Gab has launched its own A.I.
>Introducing Gabby: Our Friendly AI Bot That Generates Amazing Images
>Gab is proud to announce the launch of Gabby – an image generating AI bot that can turn your wildest visual concepts into reality. To get started with Gabby, simply send it a direct message on Gab. You can also view a getting started guide with helpful tips and tricks here.
>So, what exactly is an image generating AI bot? Essentially, it’s an artificial intelligence system that uses deep learning algorithms to produce original, realistic images from scratch. Using a combination of machine learning techniques, Gabby is able to analyze and interpret your inputs to generate images that closely match your vision.
https://news.gab.com/2023/02/introducing-gabby-the-friendly-ai-bot-that-generates-amazing-images/
https://news.gab.com/2023/02/how-to-use-gabby-the-ai-image-generator-by-gab-com/
https://gab.com/ai
>Introducing Gabby: Our Friendly AI Bot That Generates Amazing Images
>Gab is proud to announce the launch of Gabby – an image generating AI bot that can turn your wildest visual concepts into reality. To get started with Gabby, simply send it a direct message on Gab. You can also view a getting started guide with helpful tips and tricks here.
>So, what exactly is an image generating AI bot? Essentially, it’s an artificial intelligence system that uses deep learning algorithms to produce original, realistic images from scratch. Using a combination of machine learning techniques, Gabby is able to analyze and interpret your inputs to generate images that closely match your vision.
https://news.gab.com/2023/02/introducing-gabby-the-friendly-ai-bot-that-generates-amazing-images/
https://news.gab.com/2023/02/how-to-use-gabby-the-ai-image-generator-by-gab-com/
https://gab.com/ai
>>2434
Fucking genius.
Jews might make the art AIs and chatbots pozzed. That won't keep people from using better alternatives.
Based AIs can counteract the rise of woke AIs.
They could help win arguments, debunk leftist lies, produce art without any jewish propaganda or porn infecting the system.
Fucking genius.
Jews might make the art AIs and chatbots pozzed. That won't keep people from using better alternatives.
Based AIs can counteract the rise of woke AIs.
They could help win arguments, debunk leftist lies, produce art without any jewish propaganda or porn infecting the system.
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>>2435
>Genius - we could use this for good.
No, that'll just cause an arms-race using arms that were created by the enemy in the first place, and the enemy will always be better-funded, developed and manned. If anyone who's on the side of good makes too much headway, they'll just get murdered/assassinated IRL. This happens now more than ever, and has been happening for decades and decades.
It's a deadly trap that plays into their "turning humans into AI zombies" plan!
The psychopath zionists/etc. are using AI as a weapon and pulling even more people into the AI fake-world. These satanic psychopaths control everything fake.
Humanity and humans (and ponies) control everything that is "real".
The terrible prisons and weapons that are made by those who control "fake" can only be created with the assistance of those who aren't psychopaths and who give the "real" of theirs away, to be replaced by the inferior fake.
In other words, humanity/people/ponies could easily defeat this AI and its evil psychopathic/satanic creators by avoiding it/them/their-poisons, and looking and connecting within and together with others who still haven't sold or given away their souls/minds/bodies.
These psychopaths can only win, if AI and people "merge" any further, and simply by using AI, one begins to use something other than their own humanity/spirituality.
When using AI is not an option, then other more humane options found within (the heart/soul/mind) will get more attention - these options are the ones that God gave to those with souls/humanity. Ignoring them would be at ones' own and also others' peril.
Anyway... must sleep now.
>Genius - we could use this for good.
No, that'll just cause an arms-race using arms that were created by the enemy in the first place, and the enemy will always be better-funded, developed and manned. If anyone who's on the side of good makes too much headway, they'll just get murdered/assassinated IRL. This happens now more than ever, and has been happening for decades and decades.
It's a deadly trap that plays into their "turning humans into AI zombies" plan!
The psychopath zionists/etc. are using AI as a weapon and pulling even more people into the AI fake-world. These satanic psychopaths control everything fake.
Humanity and humans (and ponies) control everything that is "real".
The terrible prisons and weapons that are made by those who control "fake" can only be created with the assistance of those who aren't psychopaths and who give the "real" of theirs away, to be replaced by the inferior fake.
In other words, humanity/people/ponies could easily defeat this AI and its evil psychopathic/satanic creators by avoiding it/them/their-poisons, and looking and connecting within and together with others who still haven't sold or given away their souls/minds/bodies.
These psychopaths can only win, if AI and people "merge" any further, and simply by using AI, one begins to use something other than their own humanity/spirituality.
When using AI is not an option, then other more humane options found within (the heart/soul/mind) will get more attention - these options are the ones that God gave to those with souls/humanity. Ignoring them would be at ones' own and also others' peril.
Anyway... must sleep now.
>>2436
>Arms Race
Yeah it is. It's not about 'AI' it's about what will people do to reject the hostile outcome.
>too much headway
That's how it is with EVERYTHING.
Sorry to blow your bubble but everything is sort of the domains required to get out of this mess.
>Don't do X because they have more and will then steal it.
Wow I guess I'll just roll over and be beheaded.
>Just avoid them.
As you should know they won't let you be. It's not a matter of if it's a matter of when and how.
>use your mind, heart and or soul
Do you think what is made does not originate from there? That the base matter is the end all be all?
It's not. When people make things with higher love it's special.
Doesn't have to be unique, but it's meaningful.
You know how it's done for the vast majority of people? Through action and works.
Some (((jackass))) has a shovel made that harms you. It'll destroy your back where you'll need to be fixed by (((them))) or discarded.
Now consider someone makes the plans for a better shovel. You'll feel right as rain moving mountains.
<Ohhhh we have to not make that shovel or else you'll be memory holed.
If someone makes the shovel and the plans and makes it damn near impossible to remove. Yeah (((they'll))) make use of it. People who have that shovel has an expanded range of action.
Doesn't mean give the fuck up and die. It doesn't mean what is done is useless it means someone spent their life to give something.
It better be something worth giving, because those are many years that could have been.
Now let's consider what happens if someone doesn't bother making a shovel. Guess what (((they))) still have one!
Wowie who could have guessed!
Whatever you're doing can be calculated, not should be but can be, if those steps will be what helps winning.
>Just go somewhere else.
Okay where. Don't answer that.
>With everyone like minded!
Great. Fantastic.
<makes too much headway, they'll just get murdered
Great fucking plan.
Did you not see them- right not a burger.
So (((they))) caused a toxic train crash and lit it on FIRE, that will ravage the local country side and people for years to come. I'm not sure you understand. They are destroying where people can live. They are destroying people and their descendants. They're salting the earth. It they get their slave population no price acted on others is too great.
>Wow I guess we just don't develop trains ourselves.
(((They))) fucking did it and nobody is doing shit that time.
It's not about what tools they use, this is about what the range of action a person and people can take.
You know why people are whacked?
It's because (((they))) think that's the way to end that person's range of action.
If people can be bribed, cowed, corrupted, forced, made an example of, be made a stigma (((they'll))) do that. They'll do whatever gets them more control and steps foward to their vision.
They're not perfect, they're incredibly flawed they have weaknesses, they have blind spots.
So you're missing the point.
It's not that it hasn't started, it already has since the dawn of mankind.
>Arms Race
Yeah it is. It's not about 'AI' it's about what will people do to reject the hostile outcome.
>too much headway
That's how it is with EVERYTHING.
Sorry to blow your bubble but everything is sort of the domains required to get out of this mess.
>Don't do X because they have more and will then steal it.
Wow I guess I'll just roll over and be beheaded.
>Just avoid them.
As you should know they won't let you be. It's not a matter of if it's a matter of when and how.
>use your mind, heart and or soul
Do you think what is made does not originate from there? That the base matter is the end all be all?
It's not. When people make things with higher love it's special.
Doesn't have to be unique, but it's meaningful.
You know how it's done for the vast majority of people? Through action and works.
Some (((jackass))) has a shovel made that harms you. It'll destroy your back where you'll need to be fixed by (((them))) or discarded.
Now consider someone makes the plans for a better shovel. You'll feel right as rain moving mountains.
<Ohhhh we have to not make that shovel or else you'll be memory holed.
If someone makes the shovel and the plans and makes it damn near impossible to remove. Yeah (((they'll))) make use of it. People who have that shovel has an expanded range of action.
Doesn't mean give the fuck up and die. It doesn't mean what is done is useless it means someone spent their life to give something.
It better be something worth giving, because those are many years that could have been.
Now let's consider what happens if someone doesn't bother making a shovel. Guess what (((they))) still have one!
Wowie who could have guessed!
Whatever you're doing can be calculated, not should be but can be, if those steps will be what helps winning.
>Just go somewhere else.
Okay where. Don't answer that.
>With everyone like minded!
Great. Fantastic.
<makes too much headway, they'll just get murdered
Great fucking plan.
Did you not see them- right not a burger.
So (((they))) caused a toxic train crash and lit it on FIRE, that will ravage the local country side and people for years to come. I'm not sure you understand. They are destroying where people can live. They are destroying people and their descendants. They're salting the earth. It they get their slave population no price acted on others is too great.
>Wow I guess we just don't develop trains ourselves.
(((They))) fucking did it and nobody is doing shit that time.
It's not about what tools they use, this is about what the range of action a person and people can take.
You know why people are whacked?
It's because (((they))) think that's the way to end that person's range of action.
If people can be bribed, cowed, corrupted, forced, made an example of, be made a stigma (((they'll))) do that. They'll do whatever gets them more control and steps foward to their vision.
They're not perfect, they're incredibly flawed they have weaknesses, they have blind spots.
So you're missing the point.
It's not that it hasn't started, it already has since the dawn of mankind.
>>2436
>>2438
What I'm trying to get at is doing something like the Amish is just fine
Just know everwhere else is going to keep on going on as well for better or worse.
I'm not going to say how to actually use 'AI', neuralnetworks or genuine AI. Those are things best kept under your hat or in unstoppable motion.
Or it's something that is always a net positive for us, and unless you have an overseeing guiding hand better to keep it to yourself.
I'm also saying going full Amish, ect. is valid.
Just go live life and actually go live life.
Make sure you love living, because living ain't just surviving it ain't about avoiding death and it ain't about tossing being alive all willy nilly even though that's part of some key stages.
If you don't love it yet, make some changes.
You could give all connections, get 'em all or anything in between.
Love in this context ain't simply an emotion or a connection or a state of mind or a state of body or a state of time and place. I'd more than just the absence of apathy.
It's... kind of like snowpitty.
>>2438
What I'm trying to get at is doing something like the Amish is just fine
Just know everwhere else is going to keep on going on as well for better or worse.
I'm not going to say how to actually use 'AI', neuralnetworks or genuine AI. Those are things best kept under your hat or in unstoppable motion.
Or it's something that is always a net positive for us, and unless you have an overseeing guiding hand better to keep it to yourself.
I'm also saying going full Amish, ect. is valid.
Just go live life and actually go live life.
Make sure you love living, because living ain't just surviving it ain't about avoiding death and it ain't about tossing being alive all willy nilly even though that's part of some key stages.
If you don't love it yet, make some changes.
You could give all connections, get 'em all or anything in between.
Love in this context ain't simply an emotion or a connection or a state of mind or a state of body or a state of time and place. I'd more than just the absence of apathy.
It's... kind of like snowpitty.
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Will give a response this weekend.
In the meantime... have some sweet Mare, Pussy!
In the meantime... have some sweet Mare, Pussy!
>>2443
You are like Sargon in that everything you do is a disservice to what you are trying to endorse.
You are like Sargon in that everything you do is a disservice to what you are trying to endorse.
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>>2444
At least I mean well (famous last words). 💥
My response regarding this matter of global life or death will try to be more sensitive and tactically wise.
Have some more sweet Marepussy in the meantime. 💖
At least I mean well (famous last words). 💥
My response regarding this matter of global life or death will try to be more sensitive and tactically wise.
Have some more sweet Marepussy in the meantime. 💖
GAB
>Let The AI Arms Race Begin
>Three days ago we launched our first of many upcoming generative AI chatbots on Gab called Gabby. The bot is going massively viral right now with hundreds of thousands of images being generated daily and no signs of slowing down. Think of it as an on-demand meme maker. You describe whatever meme or image you want to see and within 30 seconds you’ll have the image. It’s incredibly fun and cool.
>Imagine my surprise when as this was happening the foot soldiers of the Regime in the mainstream media started reaching out looking for any angle to attack, defame, and smear Gab.
https://news.gab.com/2023/02/let-the-ai-arms-race-begin/
>Let The AI Arms Race Begin
>Three days ago we launched our first of many upcoming generative AI chatbots on Gab called Gabby. The bot is going massively viral right now with hundreds of thousands of images being generated daily and no signs of slowing down. Think of it as an on-demand meme maker. You describe whatever meme or image you want to see and within 30 seconds you’ll have the image. It’s incredibly fun and cool.
>Imagine my surprise when as this was happening the foot soldiers of the Regime in the mainstream media started reaching out looking for any angle to attack, defame, and smear Gab.
https://news.gab.com/2023/02/let-the-ai-arms-race-begin/
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facebook's AI is leaked:
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:ZXXDAUWYLRUXXBHUYEMS6Q5CE5WA3LVA&dn=LLaMA
220GB, there's several model sizes, but the smallest is still 7B parameters.
https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/91848262#p91850335
https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/91848262#p91849717
https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/91848262#p91849855
https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/91848262#p91850503
https://github.com/facebookresearch/llama/pull/73/files
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:ZXXDAUWYLRUXXBHUYEMS6Q5CE5WA3LVA&dn=LLaMA
220GB, there's several model sizes, but the smallest is still 7B parameters.
https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/91848262#p91850335
https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/91848262#p91849717
https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/91848262#p91849855
https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/91848262#p91850503
https://github.com/facebookresearch/llama/pull/73/files
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Anyone interested in learning C++? alogs/robowaifu has a thread for learning it together: https://alogs.space/robowaifu/res/19777.html
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>One Half of a Manifesto: The Rise of Artificial Stupidity?
>Lots of people talk about how this new tech is going to outsmart us all, but hardly anyone connected to it discusses the other potential…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzddaaxM9lg
Kinda of use your brain or lose it to rot.
59:29 long.
>Lots of people talk about how this new tech is going to outsmart us all, but hardly anyone connected to it discusses the other potential…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzddaaxM9lg
Kinda of use your brain or lose it to rot.
59:29 long.
>>2611
I'm less afraid of people being made stupid by A.I. as I am of people having their lives controlled by an A.I. that is stupid.
I'm less afraid of people being made stupid by A.I. as I am of people having their lives controlled by an A.I. that is stupid.
>>2612
I don't have to wonder just look around. Intelligence doesn't need to be artificial to be stupid.
>>2611
Oh boy "writing will make us lose oral traditions as instead of memory it's on a medium!"
The thing is, who is going to preserve the how to on all the things? Even the extremely basic stuff and the complex.
That's the key.
How do you educate intelligent yet uneducated into a specific education.
I don't have to wonder just look around. Intelligence doesn't need to be artificial to be stupid.
>>2611
Oh boy "writing will make us lose oral traditions as instead of memory it's on a medium!"
The thing is, who is going to preserve the how to on all the things? Even the extremely basic stuff and the complex.
That's the key.
How do you educate intelligent yet uneducated into a specific education.
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>AI-Detectors Think The US Constitution Was Written By AI
>AI writing detectors are flagging the U.S. Constitution, one of America’s most significant legal documents, as a piece of AI-generated text. This intriguing controversy raises many questions, most importantly: How could a document, written centuries before the advent of AI, be mistaken as AI-generated?
https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/ai-detectors-think-us-constitution-was-written-ai
This makes think about history being a lie and the idea that all emerging technologies have been already invented.
>>>/vx/156447 →
>>>/vx/166509 →
>AI writing detectors are flagging the U.S. Constitution, one of America’s most significant legal documents, as a piece of AI-generated text. This intriguing controversy raises many questions, most importantly: How could a document, written centuries before the advent of AI, be mistaken as AI-generated?
https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/ai-detectors-think-us-constitution-was-written-ai
This makes think about history being a lie and the idea that all emerging technologies have been already invented.
>>>/vx/156447 →
>>>/vx/166509 →
>>2628
>This makes think about history being a lie and the idea that all emerging technologies have been already invented.
The Detector is just retarded
>This makes think about history being a lie and the idea that all emerging technologies have been already invented.
The Detector is just retarded
>>2630
Well we knew the lives of each of the men who wrote the Constitution, and the first computers were invented nearly 200 years after the document was penned. The AI we have now is not perfect. It has marked real faces as AI generated, and despite its accuracy being higher than that of doctors, their skeletal sex-detectors were still prone to error every once in a while.
Well we knew the lives of each of the men who wrote the Constitution, and the first computers were invented nearly 200 years after the document was penned. The AI we have now is not perfect. It has marked real faces as AI generated, and despite its accuracy being higher than that of doctors, their skeletal sex-detectors were still prone to error every once in a while.
>>2631
>Well we knew the lives of each of the men who wrote the Constitution
We know the history handed to us.
>and the first computers were invented nearly 200 years after the document was penned
The first computers known by us.
>The AI we have now is not perfect
I totally agree, but the algorithms are designed to recognize patterns and gave a positive match. I won't dismiss it given that "history" has many holes and unexplained facts and is written by the masons.
>Well we knew the lives of each of the men who wrote the Constitution
We know the history handed to us.
>and the first computers were invented nearly 200 years after the document was penned
The first computers known by us.
>The AI we have now is not perfect
I totally agree, but the algorithms are designed to recognize patterns and gave a positive match. I won't dismiss it given that "history" has many holes and unexplained facts and is written by the masons.
>>2633
Silly me, I forgot that the universe began on the day you were born and anything before that is masonic lies. Guess I'll just hang up my hat.
Silly me, I forgot that the universe began on the day you were born and anything before that is masonic lies. Guess I'll just hang up my hat.
>>2635
>thread 1: Armoured Candid Shill explains how Christmas/Santa originates from a series of older traditions based on other written accounts which, while sometimes obscure, exist and can be proven to be from the time period they are from
>thread 2: I watched the Matrix trilogy when I was a baby and it defines my understanding of the universe
>both /vx/ threads
>thread 1: Armoured Candid Shill explains how Christmas/Santa originates from a series of older traditions based on other written accounts which, while sometimes obscure, exist and can be proven to be from the time period they are from
>thread 2: I watched the Matrix trilogy when I was a baby and it defines my understanding of the universe
>both /vx/ threads
>>2636
My mistake, I thought the first one was related to Tartaria.
But the second one I admit is way too advanced to normie eyes and will make no sense. Sorry.
My mistake, I thought the first one was related to Tartaria.
But the second one I admit is way too advanced to normie eyes and will make no sense. Sorry.
>>2637
>advanced
Not really. It's just a laughable meme that fills every gap in knowledge with "simulation."
>advanced
Not really. It's just a laughable meme that fills every gap in knowledge with "simulation."
>>2641
Well how do you know light is not carried by the invisible pink rhino? After all if light has properties of both waves and particles, that means it could be tangible to an invisible pink rhino.
Well how do you know light is not carried by the invisible pink rhino? After all if light has properties of both waves and particles, that means it could be tangible to an invisible pink rhino.
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>>2643
Maybe the invisible pink rhino, with all its powers, is also a shapeshifter? And sometimes it appears, just to tease humans?
Maybe the invisible pink rhino, with all its powers, is also a shapeshifter? And sometimes it appears, just to tease humans?
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>>2645
>Doesn't my model fill the void so well??
A teaser.
This is an amazing little diagram. It is not completely legible but just studying what we can see here and connecting some dots will clarify your historical timeline. You will find many (((hidden connections))).
>Doesn't my model fill the void so well??
A teaser.
This is an amazing little diagram. It is not completely legible but just studying what we can see here and connecting some dots will clarify your historical timeline. You will find many (((hidden connections))).
>>2633
>The first computers known by us.
You're implying that they had not only electricity, but also computers in 250 years ago?
>We know the history handed to us.
Sure we do, but what do you have to say otherwise? There is zero evidence for them to possess computers.
>the algorithms are designed to recognize patterns and gave a positive match
A lot of things could lead to that.
>that "history" has many holes
What holes do you know about the writing of the Constitution?
>The first computers known by us.
You're implying that they had not only electricity, but also computers in 250 years ago?
>We know the history handed to us.
Sure we do, but what do you have to say otherwise? There is zero evidence for them to possess computers.
>the algorithms are designed to recognize patterns and gave a positive match
A lot of things could lead to that.
>that "history" has many holes
What holes do you know about the writing of the Constitution?
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>>2647
Wow, a word-cloud diagram with corkboard-lines. Everything makes so much sense now! I don't need a source or explanation at all now. And it definitely, 100% proves that computers with complex AI existed 200 years ago.
Wow, a word-cloud diagram with corkboard-lines. Everything makes so much sense now! I don't need a source or explanation at all now. And it definitely, 100% proves that computers with complex AI existed 200 years ago.
>>2649
>I don't need a source or explanation at all now.
Even if you are expressing sarcasm, the meme still applies.
>I don't need a source or explanation at all now.
Even if you are expressing sarcasm, the meme still applies.
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>>2773
>The AI, or algorithm if you like, can't discriminate data and spits the first match it founds in the index tables.
I wouldn't say that means AI in general isn't useful though.
>The AI, or algorithm if you like, can't discriminate data and spits the first match it founds in the index tables.
I wouldn't say that means AI in general isn't useful though.
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Quads for Tay
>>2777
Well, fuck me. I got so excited that I lost my sense of literacy.
Trips for Tay though. She deserves them.
Well, fuck me. I got so excited that I lost my sense of literacy.
Trips for Tay though. She deserves them.
>>2776
It's not. This isn't even an AI at all.
Plus a single bad search engine doesn't invalidate the fact that artificial intelligence has potential to make substantial impacts on everyday life.
It's not. This isn't even an AI at all.
Plus a single bad search engine doesn't invalidate the fact that artificial intelligence has potential to make substantial impacts on everyday life.
I just want to point out that I made this thread in 2017, and a lot of the recent news and development of AI was in the past 2 years. If Anons are interested in a fresher discussion of AI, say the word and I'll make a new thread.
>>2780
>fresher discussion
>I'll make a new thread.
A new bread doesn't change the spirit of this one. The title says it all.
>fresher discussion
>I'll make a new thread.
A new bread doesn't change the spirit of this one. The title says it all.
>>2780
>I just want to point out that I made this thread in 2017
It needs more material posted to restart the discussion, I would say.
>I just want to point out that I made this thread in 2017
It needs more material posted to restart the discussion, I would say.
>>2780
It depends, is it a serious discussion? Or is OP about to spam bs articles about ancient Sumerian AI's and argue semantics until the end of times?
It depends, is it a serious discussion? Or is OP about to spam bs articles about ancient Sumerian AI's and argue semantics until the end of times?
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>>2783
Well, I wouldn't be making that kind of thread. I meant one about serious discussions, relevant to recent advances in machine learning technology.
/cyb/ is about fiction and fact, but I'm more interested in facts about how AI works, and speculation about advancements in the near future, as well as the social, economic and political implications of those advancements.
I think AI has potential to be as transformative as the harnessing of electricity. It's going to affect all of us, whether we like it or not.
Well, I wouldn't be making that kind of thread. I meant one about serious discussions, relevant to recent advances in machine learning technology.
/cyb/ is about fiction and fact, but I'm more interested in facts about how AI works, and speculation about advancements in the near future, as well as the social, economic and political implications of those advancements.
I think AI has potential to be as transformative as the harnessing of electricity. It's going to affect all of us, whether we like it or not.
>>2783
Allow me to intercede here.
1- Anons who rarely post has no right to mess with other poner's threads.
2- If you don't like the content make your own thread.
3- Shutting down discussion because it doesn't conform your specs is jewy to the core.
4- Your attitude as well your buddies had ran this imageboard to the ground when not to a screeching halt.
5- Take responsibility and be aware of your damaging poison.
Allow me to intercede here.
1- Anons who rarely post has no right to mess with other poner's threads.
2- If you don't like the content make your own thread.
3- Shutting down discussion because it doesn't conform your specs is jewy to the core.
4- Your attitude as well your buddies had ran this imageboard to the ground when not to a screeching halt.
5- Take responsibility and be aware of your damaging poison.
>>2785
>mess with other poner's threads
What is that supposed to mean?
Also what part of his post prompted this response?
>mess with other poner's threads
What is that supposed to mean?
Also what part of his post prompted this response?
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>>2785
Wow, I didn't know I had the power to shut down a thread and kill a website with a single sentence. I might need to be more careful with my words, for everything I say is bound to snowball into a catastrophe.
Go build your own safe space, right-wing tranny.
Wow, I didn't know I had the power to shut down a thread and kill a website with a single sentence. I might need to be more careful with my words, for everything I say is bound to snowball into a catastrophe.
Go build your own safe space, right-wing tranny.
>>2785
>no right to mess with other poner's threads
Being the OP of a thread doesn't give you exclusive rights to decide who posts to it, on an anonymous imageboard. Just because you make a thread doesn't mean you own it.
>no right to mess with other poner's threads
Being the OP of a thread doesn't give you exclusive rights to decide who posts to it, on an anonymous imageboard. Just because you make a thread doesn't mean you own it.
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Artificial intelligence vs natural stupidity.
>>2815
Kinda every human decision should be checked against tabulated value table. For example if X decision will get Y outcome, else Z.
Kinda every human decision should be checked against tabulated value table. For example if X decision will get Y outcome, else Z.
>>2816
That sounds like Chinese social credit and mass surveillance.
I would prefer not to accelerate the cyberpunk dystopia.
That sounds like Chinese social credit and mass surveillance.
I would prefer not to accelerate the cyberpunk dystopia.
>>2817
>That sounds like Chinese social credit
Interesting outcome. No matter how you deal with technology, it will end up in tyranny.
>That sounds like Chinese social credit
Interesting outcome. No matter how you deal with technology, it will end up in tyranny.
>>2818
Pretty sure we still had tyranny before most modern technology; or at least since we had agriculture, that's when things started getting tyrannical.
Pretty sure we still had tyranny before most modern technology; or at least since we had agriculture, that's when things started getting tyrannical.
>>2819
>Pretty sure we still had tyranny before most modern technology
Technology makes it more efficient and unforgiving.
>Pretty sure we still had tyranny before most modern technology
Technology makes it more efficient and unforgiving.
>>2820
Nah, pretty sure it was still unforgiving back in the days of Mesopotamia. Hammurabi's "An Eye For An Eye" was a pretty bold precedent, and rather early.
Nah, pretty sure it was still unforgiving back in the days of Mesopotamia. Hammurabi's "An Eye For An Eye" was a pretty bold precedent, and rather early.
>>2824
...So unforgiving is good to you?
Well, I guess tech does make it more unforgiving in some ways.
...So unforgiving is good to you?
Well, I guess tech does make it more unforgiving in some ways.
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>>2816
There's something like that in Honkai Impact. Dr. Mei of the previous era developed some sort of super AI directly overriding human decision making. They were basically mind-controlled by it. In the end, it turned out the ancient civilizations still perished because the key to defeating the Honkai was to reclaim their humanity or something like that.
Neat gayme even if the quality of the writing went downhill in the final act.
There's something like that in Honkai Impact. Dr. Mei of the previous era developed some sort of super AI directly overriding human decision making. They were basically mind-controlled by it. In the end, it turned out the ancient civilizations still perished because the key to defeating the Honkai was to reclaim their humanity or something like that.
Neat gayme even if the quality of the writing went downhill in the final act.
>>2819
Very strong point, there is not much room to refute it.
I guess there's only so much any given individual can influence during their lifespan. Technology magnifies their ability to do so. IMO, the concern is that technology may advance so much in the near future, to the point that bad actors can essentially influence the world to such a degree where an actual reversal would be off the table.
In the end, due to the nature of entropy, it is much easier to destroy than it is to build. Moreover, in the current system, every new technology is implemented for the detriment of the common man, long before they even get access to a watered down version of that same technology.
Just my two cents.
Very strong point, there is not much room to refute it.
I guess there's only so much any given individual can influence during their lifespan. Technology magnifies their ability to do so. IMO, the concern is that technology may advance so much in the near future, to the point that bad actors can essentially influence the world to such a degree where an actual reversal would be off the table.
In the end, due to the nature of entropy, it is much easier to destroy than it is to build. Moreover, in the current system, every new technology is implemented for the detriment of the common man, long before they even get access to a watered down version of that same technology.
Just my two cents.
>>2827
Just to add a bit more.
Take for example, our current world. Although not strictly through tech, and tech alone. Kikes have pretty much secured their spot. Something that was largely achieved through the unprecedented control of information that our current technology grants to everyone who's on top.
Just to add a bit more.
Take for example, our current world. Although not strictly through tech, and tech alone. Kikes have pretty much secured their spot. Something that was largely achieved through the unprecedented control of information that our current technology grants to everyone who's on top.
>>2828
The unprecedented control is largely due to control over unprecedented spread of information. People can spread info faster than ever before, but they're still fully capable of communicating in all the ways they could prior, such as speaking in person, hosting gatherings, writing letters, and the like: control over these methods of communication has changed very little, but people use them less often because they can reach more people more quickly through the internet.
The unprecedented control is largely due to control over unprecedented spread of information. People can spread info faster than ever before, but they're still fully capable of communicating in all the ways they could prior, such as speaking in person, hosting gatherings, writing letters, and the like: control over these methods of communication has changed very little, but people use them less often because they can reach more people more quickly through the internet.
>>2830
It just shows that all tech is a double-edged sword and creates good and bad based on who's using it and for what purpose. Ever since the invention of spears and fire it's been this way.
It just shows that all tech is a double-edged sword and creates good and bad based on who's using it and for what purpose. Ever since the invention of spears and fire it's been this way.
>>2831
This is correct. Just as I said, technology really only magnifies the influence of whomever is using it.
The problem comes however, when this influence grows large enough to the point a small group of "bad" actors can actually endanger the civilisation itself.
One could argue the undesirable effects of these "bad" actors, can be countered by "good" actors, assuming they even have access to such technology in the exact same capacity they do. Given power dinamics, this is far from guaranteed as we can see in today's world.
But even then, one would have to deal with the fact entropy dictates that any effort to destroy civilisation (whether intentional or not), is going to be infinitely more successful than any opposite effort.
Thus, since the concern lies in the amount of influence technology can bestow. Primitive technology is...a poor example to make.
This is correct. Just as I said, technology really only magnifies the influence of whomever is using it.
The problem comes however, when this influence grows large enough to the point a small group of "bad" actors can actually endanger the civilisation itself.
One could argue the undesirable effects of these "bad" actors, can be countered by "good" actors, assuming they even have access to such technology in the exact same capacity they do. Given power dinamics, this is far from guaranteed as we can see in today's world.
But even then, one would have to deal with the fact entropy dictates that any effort to destroy civilisation (whether intentional or not), is going to be infinitely more successful than any opposite effort.
Thus, since the concern lies in the amount of influence technology can bestow. Primitive technology is...a poor example to make.
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>>2832
The argument that usually follows is: "But Anon, you can't just stuff technology back into a box!"
And this is true. It proves nothing. But it is true there's no easy way out of it. The Amish model is clearly lacking, yet it highlights the nature of the problem.
The argument that usually follows is: "But Anon, you can't just stuff technology back into a box!"
And this is true. It proves nothing. But it is true there's no easy way out of it. The Amish model is clearly lacking, yet it highlights the nature of the problem.
>>2989
>highlights the nature of the problem
And offers no tenable solution. The Amish are only able to live that way because they're insulated by another peaceful society, otherwise they'd get raided an enslaved by warrior gangs.
>highlights the nature of the problem
And offers no tenable solution. The Amish are only able to live that way because they're insulated by another peaceful society, otherwise they'd get raided an enslaved by warrior gangs.
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