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Occupied Equestria - The Thread That Came Late
Anonymous
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No.133503
133506 135124
In Changelingia (West Equestria), Brie gains the support of a Changeling queen for his endeavors. Spark is doing his best to help an ill Wolf spiritual leader.

In Free Equestria (East Equestria), Iron is trying to intimidate a group of criminal griffin interlopers. Fantasy Play is helping to shut down an Anarchist press. Silver is helping his new household. Amber Sunset is walking through the city, and Dark Star has just finished helping the orphans.
2365 replies and 50 files omitted.
Silver "The Floof" Sword
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No.135628
135629
>>135627
"You are particularly interested in ponies of far south east Equestria, huh?"
Anonymous
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No.135629
135630
>>135628
She nods
"It was the focus of my thesis. Specifically, to what extent they actually adopted Celestialism after being integrated into Equestria, or just continued their old practices and called it "Celestialism"
Silver "The Floof" Sword
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No.135630
135631
>>135629
"And what was conclusion you came up with?"
Anonymous
9fc34cb
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No.135631
135632
>>135630
"Well, in the larger cities and in the areas with the most Castallion settlement, you do see something kind of like the celestialism practiced in the Heartland. If anything it's an older variety, since changes in practices adopted in the Heartland, like a general tendency towards austerity over ostentation, haven't occured in the Southeast. But further away from the cities and the settlements, you have more of an identification of Celestia with the Sun itself, or even what seems to be a direct worship of the celestial entity of the sun, as well greater fetishism of things like the solar calendar. You'll see this most obviously with the lay ponies, though sometimes even with the ministers. And that's more consistent with what we know about the Solar Cult than traditional Celestial Universalism. Of course in almost all of these places the religion is nominally Celestialism, with Celestialist style churches, and ministers reporting to Canterlot."
Silver "The Floof" Sword
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No.135632
135633
>>135631
"Little of column A, little of column B?"
Anonymous
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No.135633
135634
>>135632
“Well, I thought it was a success. An argument for the survival of the Solar Cult, albeit in a passive, and ‘above ground’ form.”
Silver "The Floof" Sword
bce850a
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No.135634
135635
>>135633
"I do not know much of region, but I could believe it. You would definitely know more than me."

He scratches his chin.

"So...what do you know about kirin religion?"
Anonymous
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No.135635
135636
>>135634
“Well, there are several in the several Kirin nations.”
Silver "The Floof" Sword
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No.135636
135637
>>135635
"What about Great Vehicle?"
Anonymous
9fc34cb
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No.135637
135638
>>135636
"Yes... That is one of the more widespread religions of the Kirin folk. It is a specific permutation of a more widespread lived philosophy that follows the teachings of the 'one who came,' who dispelled darkness," known as Sageheart Contentment in life. That lived philosophy sees the world as coming from one spiritual being. Well, not so much 'being' in the sense of a living, conscious thing, but rather, one spiritual existence, like all of consciousness is one thing, or can be, and reunification with this consciousness is desirable. It generally sees suffering as coming from unfulfilled passions, hence reducing the passions itself generally the goal. What seperates The Great Vehicle from the other versions of the same philosophy is that it's more... 'social.' Well, perhaps that isn't the right word, buts its morality has more focus on altruism and compassion, and helping others than the other varieties, which tend to think of spirituality as something you do alone, and still another version is very austere and shuns all possessions, whereas The Great Vehicle shuns acquisitiveness, but it doesn't shun owning possessions. Well, that's sort of an overview. It's most common in Ngua Nam and the Kirin Communities of the old Empire, especially in the south and on the coast, but not so much in, for example, the Khamare lands."
Silver "The Floof" Sword
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No.135638
135639
>>135637
"It sounds rather noble, and fitting for kirins. You would not happen to know Great Vehicle stance on warriors, or taking another's life, would you?"
Anonymous
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No.135639
135640
>>135638
"Well... Generally it's associated with pacifism. For instance, the great stag of the Chital, Sorrowless, was a conquering emperor in his younger years, but converted under the Great Vehicle and spread the religion in his later reign, regretting his earlier conquests. But at the same time, it's kind of hard to say, because unlike Celestialism, and certainly unlike any of the Griffin Pantheon, The Great Vehicle doesn't really moralize actions. It moralizes states of mind. So it isn't so much the act of killing someone that is forbidden, so much as anger, or revenge, or the desire to exert power over someone else. Spiritual leaders in that faith have said that killing in self-defense isn't prohibited. But it really isn't a faith associated with warriors in the way that Celestialism sometimes is, or Borealism is, or even than the followers of the Second Son in the Kirin Grove."
Silver "The Floof" Sword
bce850a
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No.135640
135641
>>135639
He listens, nods, and contemplates on how he can use this information to maybe help Khoi. After a few seconds, he smiles at Pear.

"You really do know your stuff."
Anonymous
9fc34cb
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No.135641
135642
>>135640
For a moment, she has a proud smile on her face. It doesn't last long before her lips return to a more neutral expression.

"Only surface level. It's about what they expect you to know to teach classes in religion and comparative religion to undergraduates at the University. But the only area I am really an 'expert' and could really write anything about is the religion of the Neighua, and maybe the Coltec."
Silver "The Floof" Sword
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No.135642
135643
>>135641
"Is that part of reason you are going with this group?"
Anonymous
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No.135643
135706
>>135642
“Well, yes. We’re investigating an archeological site reported my a visitor to a village a couple years ago. There’s the ruins of a small town out on the Snake, or ‘Windy’ River around sixty miles northeast of Tenochtitlan. They think it could have relics, artifacts, or especially architecture relating to the religion of the Neighua, specifically the Marexica nation.”
Anonymous
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No.135651
135652 135655
>>135368
Not sure what you mean by these hours but. I just came to say shalom! Shalom!
Anonymous
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No.135652
135655 135686
>>135651
Not sure why I made taht joke since it scks so bad. WEll ,whatever.

I don't think I will be able to play for a while to be honest got irl things to do and so on.
Anonymous
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No.135655
135656
VerityOnTheFence.png
>>135652
>>135651
Awww. Well, okay. I hope you come by again sometime
Shimmering Spark
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No.135656
135657
>>135655
Think you are ready to play tonight?
Anonymous
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No.135657
135658
>>135656
Perhaps. Presumably, Spark wants to close distance between the doctor and Miskobag
Shimmering Spark
30db97b
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No.135658
135659
>>135657
Yes. He would lead he over there as soon as he has a chance. Does the doctor have anything else to note before we leave?
Anonymous
9fc34cb
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No.135659
135660
>>135658
He wants to know,
"Where are you taking me?"
Seeming anxious
Shimmering Spark
30db97b
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No.135660
135661
>>135659
"To my friend. He is outside of this town a bit to not draw much attention from the changelings."
Anonymous
9fc34cb
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No.135661
135662
>>135660
His hairs visibly stand up. He moves his head and opens his mouth, but only manages to get out "geh" and "ah," never succeeding in forming a coherent response as he squirms.
Shimmering Spark
30db97b
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No.135662
135663
>>135661
"What's wrong?"
Anonymous
9fc34cb
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No.135663
135664
>>135662
"They will shoot me" he answers
Shimmering Spark
30db97b
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No.135664
135665
>>135663
"Why is that?"
Anonymous
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No.135665
135666
>>135664
"For aiding Partisans. Or deserters, it is all the same to them."
Shimmering Spark
30db97b
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No.135666
135667
>>135665
"Well, what about the pony that helped take down the giant beast things?"
Anonymous
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No.135667
135668
>>135666
He is silent for a moment, though he seems to take a quick breath out as soon as he takes a breath in
"The beasts are down?"
Shimmering Spark
30db97b
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No.135668
135669
>>135667
"As far as I know. I helped take down about three. No more roaring or anything so I assume that was the last of them."
Anonymous
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No.135669
135670
>>135668
He pauses again. Both ears stand at full height, swiveled towards Spark. The left ear twitches twice. He stands there for some seconds.
"Is that - is that what that commotion was yesterday?"
Shimmering Spark
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No.135670
135671
>>135669
"Afraid so. I would be glad to share more, but I have a feeling the changelings would not like such information being shared so publicly. Let's wait until we get to a bit more privacy."
Anonymous
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No.135671
135672
>>135670
He frowns, and the ears twist somewhat.
"I am... I am a doctor. I am sworn to help and do no harm. But going out into the forest... It is risky. Very risky..."
Shimmering Spark
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No.135672
135673
>>135671
"Perhaps, but I would say that the risk is about equal to working with the changelings, and probably less if they are in one of their grumpy moods."
Anonymous
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No.135673
135674
>>135672
"They very much do not like those who help those who flee to the forest..."
Shimmering Spark
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No.135674
135675
>>135673
"This isn't fleeing into the forest. Just visiting. And besides, they are a bit busy cleaning up the mess to worry about a house call."
Anonymous
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No.135675
135676
>>135674
He breathes in, closes his eyes
"Very well... I will try. But I have to be careful in how I sneak out of here."
Shimmering Spark
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No.135676
135677
>>135675
"No problem. I'm good with illusion magic. I can cover us as we make our exit."
Anonymous
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No.135677
135678
>>135676
"Let me... close out for a few hours..."
He closed a few cupboards, and turns off lights
"I'll need an alibi if they catch me... We should take the alley to the north, down the hill."
Shimmering Spark
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No.135678
135679
>>135677
"Sure thing."
Spark wonders why the cupboards were open.
Anonymous
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No.135679
135681
>>135678
He locks them anyways, carefully. He hands a stethoscope and bag to Spark
"I think this is your risk to take. Carry these."
Shimmering Spark
30db97b
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No.135681
135682
>>135679
Spark carries the bag and stethoscope.
"Neat."
Anonymous
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No.135682
135694 136057
>>135681
"Okay. Onwards." He breathes in, closes the door in the office, then goes through the door to the reception area, locks it, and goes out the front door.
"Okay, you go around right, I'll go left, then go right to Hickory Street." He goes left, and spark goes through a small alleyway that goes to another street. He appears over there in his large brown coat and hat, and waves to Spark, then going with Spark down a street and another directly north, until the two walk along a dirt road by the forest

"Okay, we are clear of the main area they patrol."
Anonymous
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No.135686
>>135652
Not to worry! Tbh it's hard to balance for me too sometimes.
Take all the time you need because I found a good plan that doesn't need coordination with other players for a while.

Shimmering Spark
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No.135694
>>135682
I thought I would have more time to pick this back up, but it looks like it will have to wait a bit.
Anonymous
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No.135697
How will Amber's second day go?
Anonymous
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No.135699
135700
>>135585
So... it would make sense for Amber to be up before sunrise
Anonymous
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No.135700
135701
>>135699
Yes, it would, particularly in the middle of winter.
Anonymous
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No.135701
135702
>>135700
So... Amber wakes up before sunrise
Amber Sunset
ab45c57
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No.135702
135703
>>135701
Amber gradually stirs awake and lets her eyes adjust to the light. Initially hesitant to leave even what little warmth the burlap blanket offers, she gets up with a yawn and says a set of morning prayers. Still unfamiliar with the layout of the room, she resorts to turning on the light before going to wash up. She eats the very last of the bread and cheese, makes sure to refill her canteen, and brushes her teeth.
Once she puts on her dress, headscarf and cloak, she has a small internal debate on whether to bring her knife. She decides against it, reasoning that the clothing store should be plenty safe and having a knife might get her in trouble. She does pack her key and canteen though. Although Amber doesn't know precisely what time it is, she's fairly certain there's some time before the store opens, so after locking her door and setting off she proceeds at a determined trot.
Anonymous
b5d54a3
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No.135703
135704
>>135702
Off in the distance, Amber can hear factory whistles, the greatest sigh of life in the city. But the streetlights are on, and few creatures roam on the streets, and even fewer shops have lights on. Nevertheless, a few automobiles barrel down the streets, and some early morning cafes shine with all lights on. The waning gibbous moon is setting, and few stars are visible in the sky.
Amber Sunset
ab45c57
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No.135704
135707
>>135703
Amber doesn't question how the sun and moon still rise and set with the current state of affairs, but takes in how the sights and sounds differ so much at this time of day.
Those whistles must be some sort of mechanical rooster employed here...
The brisk air is refreshing.
Silver "The Floof" Sword
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No.135706
135707
>>135643
"Ah, you hope to find something big there related to your speciality, and bring you great renown as scholar?"
Anonymous
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No.135707
135986 136099
>>135704
Whatever else may be true about this new state of affairs, there seems to be some kind of regularity to it, and a new normalcy, however uncanny it may be.

It takes a walk of some minutes to arrive in West town. By this time, twilight seeps in, giving the black sky a bluish tint as the moon nears the horizon.

>>135706
"Heh."
She smiles
"You sound like them."
Amber Sunset
70ebe5b
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No.135710
135711
Won't be able to play for a week.
Anonymous
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No.135711
>>135710
Aww...

Okay...
Silver "The Floof" Sword
bce850a
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No.135986
135987
>>135707
"I do?"

Silver tilts his head at her.
Anonymous
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No.135987
135988
>>135986
"Oh yes. Looking for renown and prestige. Some times it seems like it's all they think about besides politics and funding. They always want to have the most widely known book or publication, the best ratings... I don't think they even think these things will exist in a year, but they act as if it is all."
Silver "The Floof" Sword
bce850a
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No.135988
135989
>>135987
"Ahhhh. Yes, I apologise, it is adventurer in me. Fame and fortune, what little has not been already plundered centuries ago, are what preserve my existence. But it does make me curious as to why you decided to come on this expedition."
Anonymous
9fc34cb
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No.135989
135991
>>135988
She makes a frown of some kind, scrunching her mouth, and then answers.

"Well, professors - besides teach - are expected to write and to do field work. Preferably write while doing either of the above. So far, I've only done the former most. The University is getting a little on edge that I haven't published anything, besides my thesis, so they wanted me to take a semester off for sabbatical. That's what this is. The Tenochitchlan basin is in my area of expertise, so it made sense that I go. They hoped I could write about it."
Silver "The Floof" Sword
bce850a
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No.135991
135992
>>135989
"It sounds rather like, if it were your choice, you would not be here."
Anonymous
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No.135992
135993
>>135991
“Well,” she looks away, “I wouldn’t say that. There’s something... well, I can’t think of the word for it, but there’s a kind of familiarity to the jungles down south, like I belong there. It’s a feeling I don’t really get in the university. I think if this as a kind of coinciding of interests, for me to go on the expedition.”
Silver "The Floof" Sword
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No.135993
135994
>>135992
"Like you were destined to go on this trip?"
Anonymous
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No.135994
135995
>>135993
It’s almost like her hair stands up

“It’s... almost like that.”
Silver "The Floof" Sword
bce850a
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No.135995
135996
>>135994
Silver smiles at her, seemingly unaware of her reaction.

"Well, I hope your destiny will help to change world for better."
Anonymous
cab8660
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No.135996
135997
>>135995
“Well...”
She looks down at the carpet
“I meant... I meant more like it’s familiar. Like it’s a place that is more like me. Like I know it more. The villagers, the hieroglyphs... I know it better than the politics of the department. You know?”
Silver "The Floof" Sword
bce850a
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No.135997
135998
>>135996
Silver nods.

"Oh, I can understand that. It always feels better to be in your element than not."

He stretches his legs out a bit.

"So...I have asked lot about your studies. What about you? Is there anything you can tell me about you?"
Anonymous
9fc34cb
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No.135998
135999
>>135997
Her eyes get wider, and she moves further back on top of the bed
"What about me?"
Silver "The Floof" Sword
bce850a
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No.135999
136000
>>135998
Silver gives her a look of concern, hoping he's not done something wrong.

"Well, you had interesting philosophy when we talked inside catacombs. I was wondering if I could hear more about mare behind that philosophy."
Anonymous
cab8660
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No.136000
136001
>>135999
She looks down, and bats her hoof at a rise in the bed covers
“What was that? I mean what was that that I said...”
Silver "The Floof" Sword
bce850a
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No.136001
136002
>>136000
"Uh...if you are talking about just know, you asked 'what about me'. If you are talking about earlier, you talked about ponykind needing adversity to overcome in order to unite."
Anonymous
9fc34cb
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No.136002
136003
>>136001
"Oh."
She looks up at Silver
"Yes... Well, if you look at the critical points in Pony history, like the founding of Equestria, or even the coming together of the Elements of Harmony, you see that it was sparked by an external threat, like the Windigo Crisis, or the return of Nightmare Moon. Self interest is often more powerful than the drive to courage, or friendship, or to creativity. It causes ponies to fight. But when self interest aligns with the interests of the group, and ponies are made to work together... Ponies can begin to see past self interest, and see the good in other ponies... what value they have to us and what we can do for them." She gives a light smile
Silver "The Floof" Sword
bce850a
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No.136003
136004
>>136002
"Yes, that is much like what you said earlier. Do you think changelings could have provided that proverbial light for fire under our hooves?"
Anonymous
9fc34cb
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No.136004
136005
>>136003
She blinks, and then answers, again keeping eye contact with Silver
"I was in Baltimare, west town, when the war broke out. Did you see it? Did you feel it? There was a change in the air, like all of the bickering over working hours, the power of the monarchy, immigration, and all of the politics that have come up in the last few years started to subside, like we were all in this together. Ponies would willingly send rubber and metal into the scrap collector, buy bonds, and turn the lights off if they lived on the shore line. There were lines to volunteer. It wasn't perfect, and it didn't entirely last, but it was there."
Silver "The Floof" Sword
bce850a
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No.136005
136006
>>136004
Silver responds after a couple seconds of silent contemplation.

"Да. I did feel that. Dear Tartarus, even I came out of retirement to help Equestria's army through this nation's darkest days. Had New Mareland not stabbed us in back, I feel we could have beaten changelings."
Anonymous
9fc34cb
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No.136006
136007
>>136005
She winces
"Ugh... Yes. But it was not just that. It was maybe four or so months before things started to unravel. CAN... if you're not from here, that's the bigger of the worker's Union. Former workers Union... They took the opportunity to make more demands for higher wages. I heard the Liberals in Manehattan pushed for an elected legislature, though they weren't as organized as CAN, so that didn't go through. The defeats in Acornage and at the Shire, and the names in the newspapers, I think, shook the faith many ponies had in the Monarchy. I'm not entirely certain the Changelings would have been beat back... And of course the whole New Mareland debacle was a mess all of its own. It wouldn't have happened if it came to a head a few years before."
Silver "The Floof" Sword
bce850a
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No.136007
136050
>>136006
"Shire...I was not there when it fell, thankfully, but from what I hear changelings got pummeled badly before our ammunition ran out. It is sad we could not stay united for long, even under those condititions. Makes me almost wonder if changelings were infiltrating those groups even then to try to destabilize our homefront."
Anonymous
9fc34cb
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No.136050
136051
>>136007
"That is the wonder. You never really could tell. It eroded trust in anyone against the war..."
She looks down, closes her eyes as she shakes her head, before looking up to Silver
"We could have won. We should have won. We would have won. But a few bad generals, a bad quartermaster general, and of course the whole 'New Mareland' debacle... That was bad decision piled upon bad decision, until the unthinkable became a present reality."
Silver "The Floof" Sword
bce850a
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No.136051
136052
>>136050
He nods, with a sad look on his face.

"There is little that can be done. I just hope we can salvage something out of all this."
Anonymous
9fc34cb
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No.136052
136053
>>136051
She is silent for a moment
"So it seems"
Silver "The Floof" Sword
bce850a
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No.136053
136054
>>136052
Silver shakes his head clear of those dark thoughts, and smiles weakly at Pear.

"So...is there anything you could tell me about yourself personally? You seem like interesting pony, it would be nice to get to know you better."
Anonymous
9fc34cb
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No.136054
136055
>>136053
Her eyes are once again wide, as she lies on her belly on the bed
"Uh... what do you want to know?"
Silver "The Floof" Sword
bce850a
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No.136055
136056
>>136054
Silver continues to be confused and intrigued by her strange reaction.

"To start, how did you first discover your talent for language?"
Anonymous
9fc34cb
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No.136056
136077
>>136055
"Heh" She smiles
"When I was in Parochial school as a filly, there was an option to take a class in the classic language of Unicornia in the form used by the Church. The class was at the same time as my sections' normal lunch period, so I wasn't signed up for it. On the second day of school that semester, I put my uniform on wrong, and so the sleeve fell down, I stepped on it and tripped. Missy Cakes made fun of me for it in front of the whole cafeteria, and after that I begged to be in the classic language class so I wouldn't have to be in that lunch section any more.

Actually taking the class was challenging, and Sister Hearthsworth was a bit... 'distant,' but part of the lesson was to read the tale of Peat Veil in the original language, and it intrigued me... After that, I followed through in classical language, and later moved to the language of the Neighuatl.

I'm not actually that good at it, but it's enough to let me do other things."
Shimmering Spark
30db97b
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No.136057
136058
>>135682
Think we can pick back up tonight?
Anonymous
72f1ee1
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No.136058
136059
>>136057
Perhaps
Shimmering Spark
30db97b
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No.136059
136060
>>136058
Yay!
Spark wonders what is with the doctor's strange behavior, but shakes it off.
"So, my friend isn't exactly a pony... I know it probably isn't ideal, but you are the only pony that can help me."
Anonymous
72f1ee1
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No.136060
136061
>>136059
He stops, and turns around to Spark, as if to say something. He stops for a moment, but then turns back around, loudly inhaling as he does so.
Shimmering Spark
30db97b
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No.136061
136062
>>136060
"Might as well come along. We have come this far and it is safer by far in the woods."
Anonymous
72f1ee1
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No.136062
136063
>>136061
He nods, exhaling with labor, and looking behind him before scurrying forward, until they are in the woods. At this point, he more or less follows Spark along to wherever Spark s taking him
Shimmering Spark
30db97b
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No.136063
136064
>>136062
Spark leads him along the path the wolves took him, to the wolf camp.
Anonymous
72f1ee1
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No.136064
136065
>>136063
Presumably, he’d need to meet up with Waabishki and Makade first
Shimmering Spark
30db97b
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No.136065
136066
>>136064
Oh, right. So he would go to the lake then. I think they are there?
Anonymous
72f1ee1
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No.136066
136067
>>136065
Spark walks to the lake, walking over the berms, and towards the still water.

The doctor turns around to Spark
“So... where are these creatures?”
Shimmering Spark
30db97b
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No.136067
136068
>>136066
"They should be around here. Have you ever heard of the wolf tribes?"
Anonymous
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“The what?”
It is around this time that Waabishki comes into view, evidently from behind a berm, though she may have come from the forest. She’s clearly moved while the two ponies were not looking. Her soft padded feet make little noise when treading upon grass.

The doctor turns around, jumps back, and moves slightly behind and to the right of Spark.
“Wolves?! You didn’t tell me there would be wolves. I was expecting a Changeling, which would have been bad enough...”

Waabishki slowly walks closer to Spark and the Doctor, stopping a few feet in front of the two. She frowns at the doctor’s remarks, but seems more curious than averse to him
“This isn’t the town’s normal doctor” she says
Shimmering Spark
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>>136068
"It isn't? Well, we are going to have to make the most out of the substitute."
Spark turns to the doctor.
"Why are you upset? I figured that this would be simple as opposed to working for things with exoskeletons."
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“I...” he looks down, then turns to Spark
“Is this the patient”

Waabishki moves a leg forward
“He isn’t here. It’s the Mide Priest. Miskobag, if you’ve ever heard of him.”

The doctor sways back before turning to her and speaking
“What are his symptoms?”

“Symptoms?”

“I mean, what is wrong with him?”

“He is ill and nothing is working to cure him.”

“Guh! I mean how does the illness manifest. What are the signs. Does he have fever, vomiting...?” He turns his head at the question

“Well, he has difficulty getting up sometimes. He’s tired easily, and sometimes has pain in... the chest? He also has swelling around his chest I think.”

“How long has he been like this?”

“Since the leaves fell. Three months I think.”

He is silent for a moment, then says
“I think I need to see him to say anything definitive.”