I'll do some research and comparsion between the two and the original when i get home, one does look shorter than the other but i would like to see how they stand against the original; To compare them to the actual intent of the author.
The Ford version seems more precise. It is written, phrased, and translated like a native English speaker, as evidenced by the comparison above. Its not about which is more accurate, I'm sure they're all accurate, its about how cumbersome the translation is.
>>1706>one looks shorter
Yeah the German one probably has longer sentences, so I'm on page 64 right now, not 60
B-but anon we're on page 50!>>1707
Dont worry anon, today we get a recap (so everyone catches up) anyways so ill compare the two to the original and also use ford's for the recap.
I might switch to it but everyone Is free to read whichever they like.
Alright, welcome back and be prepared for here comes a WoT
>I know that men are more rarely won over by the written word than they are by the spoken word and that every great movement in this world owes its growth to great speakers, not to great writers.
With that quote, let us start the recap of the previous pages;>Austria must return to the great German mother country. Not for economic reasons. No, the economics are unimportant. Even if it did not make economic sense, it must still take place because common blood belongs in one common realm.
Within the first pages of the book (1-10) we get to know Hitler’s childhood and how he got his interest in war, books and even painting, as well as some insight in what it was like to live in Austria at that particular period.
One of the biggest points of the chapter is Hitler's confrontation with his father about which job young Hitler should pursue.
On the next pages (10-15) we first get to know his favourite school topics, how he became a nationalist, what it means to be a nationalist, how to truly learn history and a general idea of the importance of a nationalist country.
Then (15-18) we get to Hitler pursuing his dream as a painter, traveling to the city of Vienna and attempt to enter "The academy" just for then to get rejected as they saw him a better draftsman than painter.
Since he didn't had the required certification, Hitler’s dream was suddenly shattered as he could not study painting nor join the building School of Technology.
Then finally, after losing both his parents, traveling to the city of Vienna once again to pursue his new goal, becoming an architect.
And now (18-20) we get to Hitler slowly getting redpilled both on Marxism and Jews as well as the general situation of Germany at that time (decadent that is)
From 20 to 26, we get some extensive observations on the poor class, their habits and the vicious circle they are trapped in, as well as some comments on Social democracy.
At 26 till 30 we get a closer look at Social democracy, get an idea of what being well-read actually means and learn that, at the time, Hitler didn't had much interest in politics.
Then (30-36) we get an explanation on the social democratic tactics of control and how they exploit the lower (poor) class to get to their objective, how the real objective of the movement is not to improve said class but to treat is as a pawn and how even at that time manipulation of the media was used against the population.
We also get some insight on worker unions, why they are necessary and why they might get corrupted.
At 36 up to 37, Hitler starts talking about the Jews and how he at first was bluepilled about their existence, seeing them as religious persons wrongly discriminated.
From 38 to 40 we get a closer look at the press using cheap tricks to manipulate the masses, at page 39 we learn about the antisemitic party of Vienna, which at first Hitler didn't seem to like.
This is page 50 in Murphy's and page 38 in Ford's.>>1707
For now, i'll stick to reading both books, Ford's seems to get to important points faster but Murphy's by being softer on the delivery transmits a more feets on the ground vibe, which i think might come useful in the future.
Quotes here will most likely come from both but anons should probably wanna stick to one of the two to not burnout.
>>1712>maybe this weekend I can catch up?
You can do it anon, depending on the book you only have to go through 38 pages!
Also>A piece of metal
Actually you get three pieces of metal you will probably never wearIf you die you get like one but really big piece of metal, a flag and a nice coffin
Well, to be fair, the message was specifically about Americans I believe.
Reading this, I am doing a comparison between that Social Democracy in the 20s and 30s and modern Liberalism, and how workers' unions are again an extension of it. Also the free press is not such at all, but it can be rightfully called again judenpresse. It is like history repeats itself.
Welcome back ladies and gentlecolts, i apologize for the late post but without further wait, lets start.
>A Jew can never be rescued from his fixed notions.
We start out with our boy Hitler quite mad at the pappers after realizing they might have a little More bias than expected;
>I was disgusted at the way in which this Vienna Press salaamed
obsequiously before the meanest steed belonging to the Habsburg royal equipage and
went off into wild ecstacies of delight if the nag wagged its tail in response. >At the
same time these newspapers took up an attitude of anxiety in matters that concerned
the German Emperor, trying to cloak their enmity by the serious air they gave
they protested that they had no intention of mixing in Germany's internal affairs--God
forbid! They pretended that by touching a delicate spot in such a friendly way they
were fulfilling a duty that devolved upon them by reason of the mutual alliance
between the two countries and at the same time discharging their obligations of
journalistic truthfulness. Having thus excused themselves about tenderly touching a
sore spot, they bored with the finger ruthlessly into the wound.
From here, we get to learn on how Hitler went to know the anti-semitic movement (the Christian Socialist Movement) which at first he discarded as the bluepill was too strong.
>I now often turned to the VOLKSBLATT, which was much smaller in size but which treated such subjects more decently. I was not in accord with its sharp anti-Semitic tone; but again and again I found that its arguments gave me
grounds for serious thought.
In this chapter we basically learn a lot about how with enough research Hitler became redpilled
>My ideas about anti-Semitism changed also in the course of time, but that was the
change which I found most difficult. It cost me a greater internal conflict with myself,
and it was only after a struggle between reason and sentiment that victory began to be
decided in favour of the former. Two years later sentiment rallied to the side of reasons
and became a faithful guardian and counsellor.
While also learning about the favourite social strategy of the juice
>What soon gave me cause for very serious consideration were the activities of the Jews
in certain branches of life, into the mystery of which I penetrated little by little. Was
there any shady undertaking, any form of foulness, especially in cultural life, in which at least one Jew did not participate? On putting the probing knife carefully to that kind
of abscess one immediately discovered, like a maggot in a putrescent body, a little Jew
who was often blinded by the sudden light.
>Should the Jew, with the aid of his Marxist creed, triumph over the people of this world,
his Crown will be the funeral wreath of mankind, and this planet will once again follow
its orbit through ether, without any human life on its surface, as it did millions of years
And with this quote, we have the end of todays post;
>And so I believe to-day that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty
Creator. In standing guard against the Jew I am defending the handiwork of the Lord.
I am sorry for the short, rough post today, i had to writte it on my phone because busy day. Have a nice weekend break, anon
Shit, i fucked up the formattingi hate phoneposting
Correlation =/= causation
Make a thread about it If you want to disuss the effecs of the pill; This is horse book discussion/reading
Welcome back to this magnificent event, gentlecolts.>WELTANSCHAUUNG Edition
Today is a very special day, for today we'll be getting 50 pages (that is 5 posts) since i ran into some PC issues.
Without further ado, let us start;
We start out with the führer addressing some basic needs for the wannabe politician:>GENERALLY SPEAKING a man should not publicly take part in politics before he has reached the age of thirty>A man must first acquire a fund of general ideas and fit them together so as to form an organic structure of personal thought or outlook on life--a WELTANSCHAUUNG.>Then he will have that mental equipment without which he cannot form his own judgments on particular questions of the day>Such a man is now qualified, at least subjectively, to take his part in the political conduct of public affairs.
Then we get some more thoughts on the matter.>If these pre-requisite conditions are not fulfilled, and if a man should enter political life without this equipment, he will run a twofold risk. In the first place, he may find during the course of events that the stand which he originally took in regard to some essential question was wrong. He will now have to abandon his former position or else stick to it against his better knowledge and riper wisdom and after his reason and convictions have already proved it untenable.
Finishing with that, we get some more insight in german history and general thoughts on the city of vienna and what was leading to it's decay back in the day.>Ten million people cannot permanently hold together a State of fifty millions, composed of different and convicting nationalities, unless certain definite pre-requisite conditions are at hand while there is still time to avail of them.
Then we get some insight on the importance of a homogeneous population and the importance of one unified language for a nation.
To start out on this part, we get some important quotes>Up to the time that universal suffrage by secret ballot was introduced the German representatives had a majority in the Parliament. This situation gave cause for anxiety because the Social-Democratic fraction of the German element could not be relied upon when national questions were at stake. >In matters that were of critical concern for the German element, the Social-Democrats always took up an anti-German stand because they were afraid of losing their followers among the other national groups. >The introduction of universal suffrage put an end even to the purely numerical predominance of the German element. >The way was now clear for the further 'de-Germanization' of the Austrian State.
>I soon became enraged by the hideous spectacle that met my eyes. Several hundred representatives were there to discuss a problem of great economical importance and each representative had the right to have his say>The intellectual level of the debate was quite low.(…) Some times the debaters did not make themselves intelligible at all. Several of those present did not speak German but only their Slav vernaculars or dialects. Thus I had the opportunity of hearing with my own ears what I had been hitherto acquainted with only through reading the newspapers. A turbulent mass of people, all gesticulating and bawling against one another, with a pathetic old man shaking his bell and making frantic efforts to call the House to a sense of its dignity by friendly appeals, exhortations, and grave warnings.>I could not refrain from laughing.>I listened to the debates, as far as they could be understood, and I studied the more or less intelligent features of those 'elect' representatives of the various nationalities which composed that motley State. Gradually I formed my own ideas about what I saw.
>Democracy, as practised in Western Europe to-day, is the fore-runner of Marxism. In fact, the latter would not be conceivable without the former. Democracy is the breeding-ground in which the bacilli of the Marxist world pest can grow and spread. >I am more than grateful to Fate that this problem came to my notice when I was still in Vienna; If I had been in Berlin when I first discovered what an illogical thing this institution is which we call Parliament, I might easily have gone to the other extreme and believed that the salvation of the people and the Empire could be secured only by restrengthening the principle of imperial authority. Those who had this belief did not discern the tendencies of their time and were blind to the aspirations of the people.
>Since this problem was specially difficult in regard to Austria, I was forced while still quite young to go into the essentials of the whole question more thoroughly than I otherwise should have done.
>Does anybody honestly believe that human progress originates in the composite brain of the majority and not in the brain of the individual personality?
>The parliamentary principle of vesting legislative power in the decision of the majority rejects the authority of the individual and puts a numerical quota of anonymous heads in its place. In doing so it contradicts the aristrocratic principle, which is a fundamental law of nature; but, of course, we must remember that in this decadent era of ours the aristrocratic principle need not be thought of as incorporated in the upper ten thousand.
>The inevitable result is that the intellectual level of the ruling class sinks steadily. One can easily forecast how much the nation and State are bound to suffer from such a condition of affairs, provided one does not belong to that same class of 'leaders'. >The parliamentary régime in the old Austria was the very archetype of the institution as I have described it.
>>1785>There is a better chance of seeing a camel pass through the eye of a needle than of seeing a really great man 'discovered' through an election. >Whatever has happened in history above the level of the average of the broad public has mostly been due to the driving force of an individual personality.>If we consider the fact that the problems which have to be discussed and solved belong to the most varied and diverse fields we can very well realize how inefficient a governing system must be which entrusts the right of decision to a mass assembly in which only very few possess the knowledge and experience such as would qualify them to deal with the matters that have to be settled. The most important economic measures are submitted to a tribunal in which not more than one-tenth of the members have studied the elements of economics. This means that final authority is vested in men who are utterly devoid of any preparatory training which might make them competent to decide on the questions at issue.
He keeps on talking about the cracks on the democratic system for a long while>That is the reason why this brand of democracy has become a tool in the hand of that race which, because of the inner purposes it wishes to attain, must shun the open light, as it has always done and always will do. Only a Jew can praise an institution which is as corrupt and false as himself.
>As a contrast to this kind of democracy we have the German democracy, which is a true democracy; for here the leader is freely chosen and is obliged to accept full responsibility for all his actions and omissions. The problems to be dealt with are not put to the vote of the majority; but they are decided upon by the individual, and as a guarantee of responsibility for those decisions he pledges all he has in the world and even his life.
>Such were the views I formed after two years of attendance at the sessions of the Viennese Parliament. Then I went there no more.
Then we get some history on the house of hadsburg, culminating in>After the great war of 1870-71 the House of Habsburg set to work with all its determination to exterminate the dangerous German element--about whose inner feelings and attitude there could be no doubt--slowly but deliberately. I use the word exterminate, because that alone expresses what must have been the final result of the Slavophile policy. Then it was that the fire of rebellion blazed up among the people whose extermination had been decreed. That fire was such as had never been witnessed in modern German history.
>For the first time nationalists and patriots were transformed into rebels.
>Generally speaking, we must not forget that the highest aim of human existence is not the maintenance of a State of Government but rather the conservation of the race.
>The rise and decline of the Pan-German movement on the one hand and the marvellous progress of the Christian-Socialist Party on the other, became a classic object of study for me, and as such they played an important part in the development of my own views. >When I began to compare those two movements Fate placed before me the best means of understanding the causes of this puzzling problem. The action of Fate in this case was hastened by my own straitened circumstances
>I shall begin my analysis with an account of the two men who must be regarded as the founders and leaders of the two movements. These were George von Schönerer and Dr. Karl Lueger.
>They lived lives of immaculate and irreproachable probity amidst the miasma of all-round political corruption.
>When I compared their respective abilities Schönerer seemed to me a better and more profound thinker on fundamental problems. He foresaw the inevitable downfall of the Austrian State more clearly and accurately than anyone else. If this warning in regard to the Habsburg Empire had been heeded in Germany the disastrous world war, which involved Germany against the whole of Europe, would never have taken place. >And herein lay Dr. Lueger's special talent. He had a rare gift of insight into human nature and he was very careful not to take men as something better than they were in reality.>All ideas that this Pan-German had were right in the abstract, but he did not have the forcefulness or understanding necessary to put his ideas across to the broad masses. He was not able to formulate them so that they could be easily grasped by the masses.
>In all this Dr. Lueger was the opposite of Schönerer. His profound knowledge of human nature enabled him to form a correct estimate of the various social forces and it saved him from under-rating the power of existing institutions. And it was perhaps this very quality which enabled him to utilize those institutions as a means to serve the purposes of his policy. >The aims which this really eminent man decided to pursue were intensely practical. He wished to conquer Vienna, the heart of the Monarchy. It was from Vienna that the last pulses of life beat through the diseased and worn-out body of the decrepit Empire. If the heart could be made healthier the others parts of the body were bound to revive. That idea was correct in principle; but the time within which it could be applied in practice was strictly limited. And that was the man's weak point. >His achievements as Burgomaster of the City of Vienna are immortal, in the best sense of the word. But all that could not save the Monarchy. It came too late.I really need some sleep so i'll keep posting laterI didnt even write comments this time
I'd like to present a contribution of my own to this thread:
Mistakes Were Made (But Not By Me)
In both a quick little PDF conversion and my own EPUB original.
Psychological books are a weakness of mine, and this one is one of my recent favourites. I'd like to at least start a little read-along of this one, see if I can't ignite some interest and to justify re-reading it myself
Before the book even gets to the introductory chapter, it presents us with two fantastic quotes:We are all capable of believing things which we know to be untrue, and then, when we are finally proved wrong, impudently twisting the facts so as to show that we were right. Intellectually, it is possible to carry on this process for an indefinite time: the only check on it is that sooner or later a false belief bumps up against solid reality, usually on a battlefield.
—George Orwell (1946)A great nation is like a great man:When he makes a mistake, he realizes it.Having realized it, he admits it.Having admitted it, he corrects it.He considers those who point out his faults as his most benevolent teachers.
And then, we meet the introductory chapter of the book:Knaves, Fools, Villains, and Hypocrites: How Do They Live with Themselves?
Which then opens with four more quotes:Mistakes were quite possibly made by the administrations in which I served.
Henry Kissinger, responding to charges that he committed war crimes in his role in the United States' actions in Vietnam, Cambodia, and South America in the 1970sIf, in hindsight, we also discover that mistakes may have been made … I am deeply sorry.
—Cardinal Edward Egan of New York, referring to the bishops who failed to deal with child molesters among the Catholic clergyMistakes were made in communicating to the public and customers about the ingredients in our French fries and hash browns.
—McDonald's, apologizing to Hindus and other vegetarians for failing to inform them that the "natural flavoring" in their potatoes contained beef byproductsThis week's question: How can you tell when a presidential scandal is serious?A. The president's poll numbers drop.B. The press goes after him.C. The opposition calls for his impeachment.D. His own party members turn on him.E. Or the White House says, "mistakes were made"
—Bill Schneider on CNN's Inside Politics
Finally, we get to the corpus, the real meat of things. The authors lay the groundwork for the titular self-justification in these next few parts, and as you'll likely notice going through this, they're very heavy on using examples to drive their points home. I'll do my best to paraphrase some of these examples when they come up, but most of the time I'll just wind up Ctrl-C'ing a lot of things, since the writing in this is very good at conveying it's full meaning without me to flub it up.
I'll start us off with a good 2/3rds of the introduction chapter.
> AS FALLIBLE HUMAN BEINGS, all of us share the impulse to justify ourselves and avoid taking responsibility for any actions that turn out to be harmful, immoral, or stupid. Most of us will never be in a position to make decisions affecting the lives and deaths of millions of people, but whether the consequences of our mistakes are trivial or tragic, on a small scale or a national canvas, most of us find it difficult, if not impossible, to say,> "I was wrong; I made a terrible mistake."> The higher the stakes—emotional, financial, moral—the greater the difficulty.
> It goes further than that: Most people, when directly confronted by evidence that they are wrong, do not change their point of view or course of action but justify it even more tenaciously. Even irrefutable evidence is rarely enough to pierce the mental armor of self-justification.> When we began working on this book, the poster boy for "tenacious clinging to a discredited belief" was George W. Bush. Bush was wrong in his claim that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, he was wrong in claiming that Saddam was linked with Al Qaeda, he was wrong in predicting that Iraqis would be dancing joyfully in the streets to receive the American soldiers, he was wrong in predicting that the conflict would be over quickly, he was wrong in his gross underestimate of the financial cost of the war, and he was most famously wrong in his photo-op speech six weeks after the invasion began, when he announced (under a banner reading MISSION ACCOMPLISHED) that "major combat operations in Iraq have ended."
> [ … ] In 2006, with Iraq sliding into civil war and sixteen American intelligence agencies having issued a report that the occupation of Iraq had increased Islamic radicalism and the risk of terrorism, Bush said to a delegation of conservative columnists, "I've never been more convinced that the decisions I made are the right decisions."  Of course, Bush had to justify the war his administration pursued in Iraq; he had too much invested in that course of action to do otherwise—thousands of deaths and, according to a conservative estimate from the American Enterprise Institute in 2006, at least a trillion dollars.> Accordingly, when he was proved wrong in his original reasons for the war, he found new ones: getting rid of a "very bad guy," fighting terrorists, promoting peace in the Middle East, bringing democracy to Iraq, increasing the security of the United States, and finishing "the task [our troops] gave their lives for." In other words, we must continue the war because we began the war.
>>1789> Politicians are the most visible of self-justifiers, which is why they provide such juicy examples. They have refined the art of speaking in the passive voice; when their backs are to the wall they will reluctantly acknowledge error, but not responsibility. Oh all right, mistakes were made, but not by me; by someone else, who shall remain nameless.  When Henry Kissinger said that the "administration" may have made mistakes, he was sidestepping the fact that as national security adviser and secretary of state (simultaneously) he, in effect, was the administration. This self-justification allowed him to accept the Nobel Peace Prize with a straight face and a clear conscience.
> We look at the behavior of politicians with amusement or alarm or horror, but, psychologically, what they do is no different in kind, though certainly in consequence, from what most of us have done at one time or another in our private lives.> We stay in an unhappy relationship or merely one that is going nowhere because, after all, we invested so much time in making it work.> We stay in a deadening job way too long because we look for all the reasons to justify staying and are unable to clearly assess the benefits of leaving.> We buy a lemon of a car because it looks gorgeous, spend thousands of dollars to keep the damn thing running, and then we spend even more to justify that investment.> We self-righteously create a rift with a friend or relative over some real or imagined slight, yet see ourselves as the pursuers of peace—if only the other side would apologize and make amends.
> Self-justification is not the same thing as lying or making excuses. Obviously, people will lie or invent fanciful stories to duck the fury of a lover, parent, or employer; to keep from being sued or sent to prison; to avoid losing face; to avoid losing a job; to stay in power. But there is a big difference between what a guilty man says to the public to convince them of something he knows is untrue …> ("I did not have sex with that woman")> ("I am not a crook")> … and the process of persuading himself that he did a good thing. In the former situation, he is lying and knows he is lying to save his own skin. In the latter, he is lying to himself. That is why self-justification is more powerful and more dangerous than the explicit lie. It allows people to convince themselves that what they did was the best thing they could have done. In fact, come to think of it, it was the right thing.> "There was nothing else I could have done."> "Actually, it was a brilliant solution to the problem."> "I was doing the best for the nation."> "Those bastards deserved what they got."> "I'm entitled."
> Self-justification not only minimizes our mistakes and bad decisions; it is also the reason that everyone can see a hypocrite in action except the hypocrite. It allows us to create a distinction between our moral lapses and someone else's, and to blur the discrepancy between our actions and our moral convictions. Aldous Huxley was right when he said, "There is probably no such thing as a conscious hypocrite." [ … ]
Remember when I said the authors are heavy on examples? The authors then go on to offer more instances of dissonance and doublethink employed in your (possible) day-to-day lives.> For example, have you ever done a little finessing of expenses on income taxes? That probably compensates for the legitimate expenses you forgot about, and besides, you'd be a fool not to, considering that everybody else does.> Did you fail to report some extra cash income? You're entitled, given all the money that the government wastes on pork-barrel projects and programs you detest.> Have you been writing personal e-mails and surfing the Net at your office when you should have been tending to business? Those are perks of the job, and besides, it's your own protest against those stupid company rules, and besides, your boss doesn't appreciate all the extra work you do.
There's even a real, non-hypothetical example where an ethics and philosophy professor smudges ink on the bed of his hotel room by mistake, then justifies it to himself:> "One of them told me to stop with the moral fanaticism. He argued, 'The management expects such accidents and builds their cost into the price of the rooms.' It did not take long to persuade me that there was no need to trouble the manager. I reasoned that if I had spilled this ink in a family-owned bed-and-breakfast, then I would have immediately reported the accident, but that this was a chain hotel, and yadda yadda yadda went the hoodwinking process. [ … ]"
Then the authors go on to predict that some of you are going to justify yourselves by proclaiming that your justifications are actually true, and not a total load. To which they respond:> Whether those claims are true or false is irrelevant. When we cross these lines, we are justifying behavior that we know is wrong precisely so that we can continue to see ourselves as honest people and not criminals or thieves. Whether the behavior in question is a small thing like spilling ink on a hotel bedspread, or a big thing like embezzlement, the mechanism of self-justification is the same.
The next section of the intro goes on to indict memory as another source of justification, along with a whole lot of detailed examples. But I'm going to stop myself right here, lest I eclipse the entire thread.
I hope this partial look at the intro has you intrigued, because the intro is just a taster for the really, really
interesting stuff later on. The book has 8 chapters in total, is replete with examples (and citations!), and in order to fully explore the ways we justify ourselves, the chapters go over:
Pride and Prejudice
Bad science & Le Skepticism
Police & Prosecution
Causing and receiving harm
Some of the examples are absolutely fantastic: LA's "Museum of Tolerance" has a set of two doors, "Prejudiced" and "Unprejudiced", the latter of which is locked and you can't go through. A set of four Jews were angrily banging on the "Unprejudiced" door, demanding that some goy let them in.
While it's obvious the writers swing more to the left, including that example was ballsy, and they do a surprisingly good job of excising their biases.
In the spirit of "trust but verify", every time there's a citation (, , etc.), I'll attach a .txt of the citations, archived and paraphrased, for your perusal. Just so I don't break the flow too badly.Should I continue?
Quotes and quotes while i read i post quotes
and (you) too can do the same.>In order to assure the possibility of carrying through a really strenuous struggle, the Pan-German Movement should have devoted its efforts to winning over the masses. The failure to do this left the movement from the very beginning without the elementary impulse which such a wave needs if it is not to ebb within a short while.
Even if it is the obvious, it still needs to be pointed out.
>The Press either ignored them totally or so mutilated their speeches that the logical consistency was destroyed or the meaning twisted round in such a way that the public got only a very wrong impression regarding the aims of the new movement. What the individual members said was not of importance. The important matter was what people read as coming from them. This consisted of mere extracts which had been torn out of the context of the speeches and gave an impression of incoherent nonsense, which indeed was purposely meant.
>A man who fights only for his own existence has not much left over for the service of the community.
That's a great quote for a pic, you know what, it's too good to just leave it here like that>Pic related
>If a movement should offer a large number of positions and offices that are easily accessible the number of unworthy candidates admitted to membership will be constantly on the increase and eventually a day will come when there will be such a preponderance of political profiteers among the membership of a successful Party that the combatants who bore the brunt of the battle in the earlier stages of the movement can now scarcely recognize their own Party and may be ejected by the later arrivals as unwanted ballast.
The replacement effect but a hundread years ago.
>The doom of a nation can be averted only by a storm of glowing passion; but only those who are passionate themselves can arouse passion in others. It is only through the capacity for passionate feeling that chosen leaders can wield the power of the word which, like hammer blows, will open the door to the hearts of the people.
Some golden quotes this time
>A movement which has great ends to achieve must carefully guard against the danger of losing contact with the masses of the people. Every problem encountered must be examined from this viewpoint first of all and the decision to be made must always be in harmony with this principle.
>The movement must avoid everything which might lessen or weaken its power of influencing the masses; not from demagogical motives but because of the simple fact that no great idea, no matter how sublime and exalted it may appear, can be realized in practice without the effective power which resides in the popular masses. Stern reality alone must mark the way to the goal. To be unwilling to walk the road of hardship means, only too often in this world, the total renunciation of our aims and purposes, whether that renunciation be consciously willed or not.
Also important, on the same topic.
>If there had been a proper appreciation (by the Pan-German Movement) of the tremendous powers of endurance always shown by the masses in revolutionary movements a different attitude towards the social problem would have been taken, and also a different policy in the matter of propaganda. Then the centre of gravity of the movement would not have been transferred to the Parliament but would have remained in the workshops and in the streets.
Speaking about the fall of the Pan-German Movement
>Any attempt at a national revival will be opposed if the preliminary condition of such a revival be that a bad and pernicious regime must first of all be overthrown; because such an action will be considered as a violation of the 'Authority of the State'.>In the eyes of those who take that standpoint, the 'Authority of the State' is not a means which is there to serve an end but rather, to the mind of the dogmatic believer in objectivity, it is an end in itself.>Such people would raise an outcry, if, for instance, anyone should attempt to set up a dictatorship, even though the man responsible for it were Frederick the Great and even though the politicians for the time being were small and incompetent men.>To such sticklers for abstract principles the law of democracy is more sacred than the welfare of the nation. In accordance with his principles, one of these gentry will defend the worst kind of tyranny, though it may be leading a people to ruin, because it is the fleeting embodiment of the 'Authority of the State', and another will reject even a highly beneficent government if it should happen not to be in accord with his notion of 'democracy'.>In the same way our German pacifist will remain silent while the nation is groaning under an oppression which is being exercised by a sanguinary military power, when this state of affairs gives rise to active resistance; because such resistance means the employment of physical force, which is against the spirit of the pacifist associations.>The German International Socialist may be rooked and plundered by his comrades in all the other countries of the world in the name of 'solidarity', but he responds with fraternal kindness and never thinks of trying to get his own back, or even of defending himself. And why? Because he is a German.
"Because he is a g*rman"
>Such conduct is not the manifestation of a malicious intent, nor is it the outcome of orders given from 'above', as we say; but such a lack of national grit and determination is due to defects in our educational system.
>It may be unpleasant to dwell on such truths, but if something is to be changed we must start by diagnosing the disease.
That's my bread and butter, i'll check it out, thanks for the recommendation!
And today's quote is…
>Do you feel that Providence has called you to proclaim the Truth to the world? If so, then go and do it. But you ought to have the courage to do it directly and not use some political party as your mouthpiece; for in this way you shirk your vocation. In the place of something that now exists and is bad put something else that is better and will last into the future.
He was talking about the church, but this applies to a lot of things
>(…) do not try to reach the goal by the roundabout way of a political party if you are not brave enough to fight with your visor lifted.
This is why the left loves to ruin people's lives by doxxing them, they use those people as examples.
>To a political leader the religious teachings and practices of his people should be sacred and inviolable. Otherwise he should not be a statesman but a reformer, if he has the necessary qualities for such a mission.
>for psychological reasons alone, it is not expedient to place two or more sets of adversaries before the masses--since that leads to a complete splitting up of their fighting strength--they would have concentrated the full and undivided force of their attack against a single adversary.
Never fight two fronts at the same time
>One learns history in order to be able to apply its lessons to the present time and whoever fails to do this cannot pretend to be a political leader. In reality he is quite a superficial person or, as is mostly the case, a conceited simpleton whose good intentions cannot make up for his incompetence in practical affairs.
Why are we even reading this in the first place
The art of leadership:
>The art of leadership, consists in consolidating the attention of the people against a single adversary and taking care that nothing will split up that attention into sections.
>The more the militant energies of the people are directed towards one objective the more will new recruits join the movement, attracted by the magnetism of its unified action, and thus the striking power will be all the more enhanced.
>The leader of genius must have the ability to make different opponents appear as if they belonged to the one category; for weak and wavering natures among a leader's following may easily begin to be dubious about the justice of their own cause if they have to face different enemies.
>As soon as the vacillating masses find themselves facing an opposition that is made up of different groups of enemies their sense of objectivity will be aroused and they will ask how is it that all the others can be in the wrong and they themselves, and their movement, alone in the right.
>Such a feeling would be the first step towards a paralysis of their fighting vigour.
A sprinkle of manipulation there, just for good measure
>(…)many people could not understand this kind of anti-Semitism and therefore refused to take part in it.
>If the Christian-Socialist Party, together with its shrewd judgment in regard to the worth of the popular masses, had only judged rightly also on the importance of the racial problem--which was properly grasped by the Pan-German Movement--and if this party had been really nationalist; or if the Pan-German leaders, on the other hand, in addition to their correct judgment of the Jewish problem and of the national idea, had adopted the practical wisdom of the Christian-Socialist Party, and particularly their attitude towards Socialism--then a movement would have developed which, in my opinion, might at that time have successfully altered the course of German destiny.
So much observation and study went into Hitler's worldview, and people believe he just dropped out of art school and "invented" antisemitism.
It would be funny, if it wasn't so tragic.
>A feeling of discontent grew upon me and made me depressed the more I came to realize the inside hollowness of this State and the impossibility of saving it from collapse. At the same time I felt perfectly certain that it would bring all kinds of misfortune to the German people.
That doomer feeling
>I was convinced that the Habsburg State would balk and hinder every German who might show signs of real greatness, while at the same time it would aid and abet every non-German activity.
>I hoped that one day I might be able to make my mark as an architect and that I could devote my talents to the service of my country on a large or small scale, according to the will of Fate.
>I do not know what my attitude towards Jewry, Social-Democracy, or rather Marxism in general, to the social problem, etc., would be to-day if I had not acquired a stock of personal beliefs at such an early age, by dint of hard study and under the duress of Fate.
Why genZ is basically a bunch of tiny hitlers on the making.
>Page 111 is just notes edition
So, in this new chapter, hitler arrived at Munich (1912) and continued to make money as a painter while studying.>A German city! I said to myself. How different to Vienna. It was with a feeling of disgust that my imagination reverted to that Babylon of races
>At that time I knew the condition of affairs in the Austrian State better than the professional diplomats. Blindfolded, as nearly always, these diplomats stumbled along on their way to disaster.
Someone would be called a "conspiracy theorist" nowadays…
>By leaving the process of procreation unchecked and by submitting the individual to the hardest preparatory tests in life, Nature selects the best from an abundance of single elements and stamps them as fit to live and carry on the conservation of the species. But man restricts the procreative faculty and strives obstinately to keep alive at any cost whatever has once been born. >The dear little ape of an all-mighty father is delighted to see and hear that he has succeeded in effecting a numerical restriction; but he would be very displeased if told that this, his system, brings about a degeneration in personal quality.
About population control.
Now i wonder how would population control work under hitler's regime.
>Nature knows no political frontiers. She begins by establishing life on this globe and then watches the free play of forces. Those who show the greatest courage and industry are the children nearest to her heart and they will be granted the sovereign right of existence.>If a nation confines itself to 'internal colonization' while other races are perpetually increasing their territorial annexations all over the globe, that nation will be forced to restrict the numerical growth of its population at a time when the other nations are increasing theirs. >Now it is unfortunately true that only too often the best nations--or, to speak more exactly, the only really cultured nations, who at the same time are the chief bearers of human progress--have decided, in their blind pacifism, to refrain from the acquisition of new territory and to be content with 'internal colonization.' But at the same time nations of inferior quality succeed in getting hold of large spaces for colonization all over the globe.>Should that state of affairs continue, then the world will one day be possessed by that portion of mankind which is culturally inferior but more active and energetic.
Now i get it
>Nobody can doubt that this world will one day be the scene of dreadful struggles for existence on the part of mankind. In the end the instinct of self-preservation alone will triumph. Before its consuming fire this so-called humanitarianism, which connotes only a mixture of fatuous timidity and self-conceit, will melt away as under the March sunshine. Man has become great through perpetual struggle. In perpetual peace his greatness must decline.>>1798
My pleasure, anon
Don't burnout trying to catch up!
Hope you had a nice weekend, poners.
Today we get a lot of talk about austria, the triple alliance, the problems of replacing war with economy and the situation of germany in middle of all this trouble;Not a lot of really big quotes over here!
>In any case, the policy of oppression against the German population in Austria should not have been allowed to be carried on and to grow stronger from year to year; for the value of Austria as an ally could be assured only by upholding the German element there. But that course was not followed. >Nothing was dreaded so much as the possibility of an armed conflict; but finally, and at a most unfavourable moment, the conflict had to be faced and accepted. They thought to cut loose from the cords of destiny, but destiny held them fast. >They dreamt of maintaining a world peace and woke up to find themselves in a world war.
>Only children could believe that sweet and unctuous expressions of goodness and persistent avowals of peaceful intentions could get them their bananas through this 'friendly competition between the nations', with the prospect of never having to fight for them.
>I can vividly recall to mind the astonished looks of my comrades when they found themselves personally face to face for the first time with the Tommies in Flanders. After a few days of fighting the consciousness slowly dawned on our soldiers that those Scotsmen were not like the ones we had seen described and caricatured in the comic papers and mentioned in the communiqués. >It was then that I formed my first ideas of the efficiency of various forms of propaganda.
About propaganda (duh)
I am reading.
I'll give you feedback later when at home.
>>1784>Then we get some insight on the importance of a homogeneous population and the importance of one unified language for a nation.
Indeed. This can be seen today across the West.>>1785>Democracy is the breeding-ground in which the bacilli of the Marxist world pest can grow and spread.
Enlightening thought.>Does anybody honestly believe that human progress originates in the composite brain of the majority and not in the brain of the individual personality?
Chaotic struggle of disparate wills versus a focused unique will.>>1786>Generally speaking, we must not forget that the highest aim of human existence is not the maintenance of a State of Government but rather the conservation of the race.
The racial stock has a higher position than social organization.>>1797>Why genZ is basically a bunch of tiny hitlers on the making
Thanks to their degenerate parents in tandem with the Jews, they are going to get a truly shitty deal as a birthday gift. But I think the Zyklons are not there yet, and one more generation will be necessary to generate a change fueled for a still shittier deal.
As Dr. Pierce said, the lemmings will only retire their loyalty to the (((System))) when their needs won't be any longer satisfied -→ Acceleration baby!>>1799>>Should that state of affairs continue, then the world will one day be possessed by that portion of mankind which is culturally inferior but more active and energetic.
Yup. Raw nature favors the beast, however the beast is not suitable for civilization building. And it defaults to cull or to be culled.
we're back, with another 10 pages!>-the 'uninitiated' layman could do nothing but observe how the 'elect' were marching straight ahead towards disaster and enticing their beloved people to follow them, as the rats followed the Pied Piper of Hamelin.
And that is today's special quote, post your favorites!
>It (The state) does not arise from a compact made between contracting parties, within a certain delimited territory, for the purpose of serving economic ends. The State is a community of living beings who have kindred physical and spiritual natures, organized for the purpose of assuring the conservation of their own kind and to help towards fulfilling those ends which Providence has assigned to that particular race or racial branch. Therein, and therein alone, lie the purpose and meaning of a State.
On the nature of the state/what the state is supposed to be
>The Jewish State has never been delimited in space. It has been spread all over the world, without any frontiers whatsoever, and has always been constituted from the membership of one race exclusively. That is why the Jews have always formed a State within the State. One of the most ingenious tricks ever devised has been that of sailing the Jewish ship-of-state under the flag of Religion and thus securing that tolerance which Aryans are always ready to grant to different religious faiths. But the Mosaic Law is really nothing else than the doctrine of the preservation of the Jewish race. Therefore this Law takes in all spheres of sociological, political and economic science which have a bearing on the main end in view.
About the juice
>The instinct for the preservation of one's own species is the primary cause that leads to the formation of human communities. Hence the State is a racial organism, and not an economic organization.
>The sacrifice of the individual existence is necessary in order to assure the conservation of the race. Hence it is that the most essential condition for the establishment and maintenance of a State is a certain feeling of solidarity, wounded in an identity of character and race and in a resolute readiness to defend these at all costs.
Some more quotes about the satate, dangerously close to gommunism
>As long as the German people, in the War of 1914, continued to believe that they were fighting for ideals they stood firm. As soon as they were told that they were fighting only for their daily bread they began to give up the struggle.>As soon as man is called upon to struggle for purely material causes he will avoid death as best he can; for death and the enjoyment of the material fruits of a victory are quite incompatible concepts. The frailest woman will become a heroine when the life of her own child is at stake. And only the will to save the race and native land or the State, which offers protection to the race, has in all ages been the urge which has forced men to face the weapons of their enemies.
And some quotes on men and war.
>During the years 1912-1914 I used to ponder perpetually on those problems which related to the policy of the Triple Alliance and the economic policy then being pursued by the German Empire. Once again I came to the conclusion that the only explanation of this enigma lay in the operation of that ((force)) which I had already become acquainted with in Vienna, though from a different angle of vision. The force to which I refer was the Marxist teaching and WELTANSCHAUUNG and its organized action throughout the nation.
Can you spot the tiny edit i made?
>I studied Bismarck's exceptional legislation in its original concept, its operation and its results. Gradually I formed a basis for my own opinions, which has proved as solid as a rock, so that never since have I had to change my attitude towards the general problem. I also made a further and more thorough analysis of the relations between Marxism and Jewry.
Heh, marxism and jewry
>In the years 1913 and 1914 I expressed my opinion for the first time in various circles, some of which are now members of the National Socialist Movement, that the problem of how the future of the German nation can be secured is the problem of how Marxism can be exterminated.
Starting small by redpilling people, what an exemplary dude.
Sadly one would get his ass doxxed and lose everything these days.
Aand here comes chapter 5
, damn that chapter was short
>DURING THE boisterous years of my youth nothing used to damp my wild spirits so much as to think that I was born at a time when the world had manifestly decided not to erect any more temples of fame except in honour of business people and State officials.
Relatable.>The tempest of historical achievements seemed to have permanently subsided, so much so that the future appeared to be irrevocably delivered over to what was called peaceful competition between the nations. This simply meant a system of mutual exploitation by fraudulent means, the principle of resorting to the use of force in self-defence being formally excluded.
>Individual countries increasingly assumed the appearance of commercial undertakings, grabbing territory and clients and concessions from each other under any and every kind of pretext.>This trend of affairs seemed destined to develop steadily and permanently. Having the support of public approbation, it seemed bound eventually to transform the world into a mammoth department store.
Wew, almost like our curren situation, i wonder ((why))
>Why could I not have been born a hundred years ago? I used to ask myself. Somewhere about the time of the Wars of Liberation, when a man was still of some value even though he had no 'business'.
Even in the past people wanted to live in the past.
I'll keep on going in the next post, running out of space here
>>1806>>When the news came to Munich that the Archduke Franz Ferdinand had been murdered, I had been at home all day and did not get the particulars of how it happened. At first I feared that the shots may have been fired by some German-Austrian students who had been aroused to a state of furious indignation by the persistent pro-Slav activities of the Heir to the Habsburg Throne and therefore wished to liberate the German population from this internal enemy. It was quite easy to imagine what the result of such a mistake would have been. It would have brought on a new wave of persecution, the motives of which would have been 'justified' before the whole world. But soon afterwards I heard the names of the presumed assassins and also that they were known to be Serbs. I felt somewhat dumbfounded in face of the inexorable vengeance which Destiny had wrought. The greatest friend of the Slavs had fallen a victim to the bullets of Slav patriots.
And people claim hitler was an evulz man that didn't think of consequences, i am sure he was more than certain of every action he took during wwII, i would even go as far as saying he lost only because of sabotage.
>The fault of the German Government lay in the fact that, merely for the sake of preserving peace at all costs, it continued to miss the occasions that were favourable for action, got entangled in an alliance for the purpose of preserving the peace of the world,and thus finally became the victim of a world coalition which opposed the German effort for the maintenance of peace and was determined to bring about the world war.
And that was page 140.
We're close to page 200(iq) yay>>1808
It is hard to have a discussion about such book, the ideals are clearly written by a bright man, so bright in fact i am sure normies would eat up quotes from this book as long as they don't know who wrotte it.>But I think the Zyklons are not there yet, and one more generation will be necessary to generate a change fueled for a still shittier deal.
Indeed, just one gen seems too fast, but i am sure the 1995-2000 gen will totally become allies to the 2005-2010 gen if shit hits the fan.
>The War of 1914 was certainly not forced on the masses; it was even desired by the whole people.
Welcome back, gentlecolts, here are your quotes for the day
>On August 3rd, 1914, I presented an urgent petition to His Majesty, King Ludwig III, requesting to be allowed to serve in a Bavarian regiment. In those days the Chancellery had its hands quite full and therefore I was all the more pleased when I received the answer a day later, that my request had been granted. I opened the document with trembling hands; and no words of mine could now describe the satisfaction I felt on reading that I was instructed to report to a Bavarian regiment. Within a few days I was wearing that uniform which I was not to put oft again for nearly six years.
And that is how hitler got into the army in WWI
>ith a wistful pride I look back on those days, especially because we are now approaching the tenth anniversary of that memorable happening. I recall those early weeks of war when kind fortune permitted me to take my place in that heroic struggle among the nations.
>As the scene unfolds itself before my mind, it seems only like yesterday. I see myself among my young comrades on our first parade drill, and so on until at last the day came on which we were to leave for the front.
>In common with the others, I had one worry during those days. This was a fear that we might arrive too late for the fighting at the front. Time and again that thought disturbed me and every announcement of a victorious engagement left a bitter taste, which increased as the news of further victories arrived.
>At long last the day came when we left Munich on war service. For the first time in my life I saw the Rhine, as we journeyed westwards to stand guard before that historic German river against its traditional and grasping enemy. As the first soft rays of the morning sun broke through the light mist and disclosed to us the Niederwald Statue, with one accord the whole troop train broke into the strains of DIE WACHT AM RHEIN. I then felt as if my heart could not contain its spirit.
Adding these because it's just great
>And then followed a damp, cold night in Flanders. We marched in silence throughout the night and as the morning sun came through the mist an iron greeting suddenly burst above our heads. Shrapnel exploded in our midst and spluttered in the damp ground. But before the smoke of the explosion disappeared a wild 'Hurrah' was shouted from two hundred throats, in response to this first greeting of Death. Then began the whistling of bullets and the booming of cannons, the shouting and singing of the combatants. With eyes straining feverishly, we pressed forward, quicker and quicker, until we finally came to close-quarter fighting, there beyond the beet-fields and the meadows. Soon the strains of a song reached us from afar. Nearer and nearer, from company to company, it came. And while Death began to make havoc in our ranks we passed the song on to those beside us: DEUTSCHLAND, DEUTSCHLAND ÜBER ALLES, ÜBER ALLES IN DER WELT.
And this one
>That was the beginning. And thus we carried on from year to year. A feeling of horror replaced the romantic fighting spirit. Enthusiasm cooled down gradually and exuberant spirits were quelled by the fear of the ever-present Death. A time came when there arose within each one of us a conflict between the urge to self-preservation and the call of duty. And I had to go through that conflict too. As Death sought its prey everywhere and unrelentingly a nameless Something rebelled within the weak body and tried to introduce itself under the name of Common Sense; but in reality it was Fear, which had taken on this cloak in order to impose itself on the individual. But the more the voice which advised prudence increased its efforts and the more clear and persuasive became its appeal, resistance became all the stronger; until finally the internal strife was over and the call of duty was triumphant. Already in the winter of 1915-16 I had come through that inner struggle. The will had asserted its incontestable mastery. Whereas in the early days I went into the fight with a cheer and a laugh, I was now habitually calm and resolute. And that frame of mind endured. Fate might now put me through the final test without my nerves or reason giving way. The young volunteer had become an old soldier.
>For a thousand years to come nobody will dare to speak of heroism without recalling the German Army of the World War. And then from the dim past will emerge the immortal vision of those solid ranks of steel helmets that never flinched and never faltered. And as long as Germans live they will be proud to remember that these men were the sons of their forefathers.
If only he knew how wrong he was
>Ideas and philosophical systems as well as movements grounded on a definite spiritual foundation, whether true or not, can never be broken by the use of force after a certain stage, except on one condition: namely, that this use of force is in the service of a new idea or WELTANSCHAUUNG which burns with a new flame
This is like really important
>>1813>The application of force alone, without moral support based on a spiritual concept, can never bring about the destruction of an idea or arrest the propagation of it, unless one is ready and able ruthlessly to exterminate the last upholders of that idea even to a man, and also wipe out any tradition which it may tend to leave behind. Now in the majority of cases the result of such a course has been to exclude such a State, either temporarily or for ever, from the comity of States that are of political significance; but experience has also shown that such a sanguinary method of extirpation arouses the better section of the population under the persecuting power. As a matter of fact, every persecution which has no spiritual motives to support it is morally unjust and raises opposition among the best elements of the population; so much so that these are driven more and more to champion the ideas that are unjustly persecuted. With many individuals this arises from the sheer spirit of opposition to every attempt at suppressing spiritual things by brute force.>In this way the number of convinced adherents of the persecuted doctrine increases as the persecution progresses. Hence the total destruction of a new doctrine can be accomplished only by a vast plan of extermination; but this, in the final analysis, means the loss of some of the best blood in a nation or State. And that blood is then avenged, because such an internal and total clean-up brings about the collapse of the nation's strength. And such a procedure is always condemned to futility from the very start if the attacked doctrine should happen to have spread beyond a small circle.
Tl;dr:>To sum up, the following must be borne in mind: That every attempt to combat a WELTANSCHAUUNG by means of force will turn out futile in the end if the struggle fails to take the form of an offensive for the establishment of an entirely new spiritual order of' things. It is only in the struggle between two Weltan-schauungen that physical force, consistently and ruthlessly applied, will eventually turn the scales in its own favour. It was here that the fight against Marxism had hitherto failed.
These paragraphs are really interesting. It's almost as if Hitler in all his wisdom knows it would be a bad idea to do something like the lolocaust, as that might generate a bad reaction within the population.
It's almost as if the guy has more than half a brain and made work camps where the living conditions where good instead of "death camps" as the juice claim.
It's almost as if the jews in 2019 act exactly like the jews in 1914.
Really gets the noggin joggin'
>Supposing Social-Democracy were overthrown, what had one to offer the masses in its stead? Not a single movement existed which promised any success in attracting vast numbers of workers who would be now more or less without leaders, and holding these workers in its train.>Long before the War I was of the same opinion and that was the reason why I could not decide to join any of the parties then existing. During the course of the World War my conviction was still further confirmed by the manifest impossibility of fighting Social-Democracy in anything like a thorough way: because for that purpose there should have been a movement that was something more than a mere 'parliamentary' party, and there was none such.
Buut that's all for now, tomorrow we'll have 10 more pages!
Now, continuing from the last quote from this post >>1814>I frequently discussed that want with my intimate comrades. And it was then that I first conceived the idea of taking up political work later on. As I have often assured my friends, it was just this that induced me to become active on the public hustings after the War, in addition to my professional work. And I am sure that this decision was arrived at after much earnest thought.
The reason why hitler got into politics; To fight marxism.
Now, chapter 6
>Chapter 6 War Propaganda IN WATCHING the course of political events I was always struck by the active part which propaganda played in them. I saw that it was an instrument, which the Marxist Socialists knew how to handle in a masterly way and how to put it to practical uses. >Propaganda is a means and must, therefore, be judged in relation to the end it is intended to serve. It must be organized in such a way as to be capable of attaining its objective.
Vintage meme magic
>But when nations are fighting for their existence on this earth, when the question of 'to be or not to be' has to be answered, then all humane and aesthetic considerations must be set aside; for these ideals do not exist of themselves somewhere in the air but are the product of man's creative imagination and disappear when he disappears.>Humane and aesthetic ideals will disappear from the inhabited earth when those races disappear which are the creators and standard-bearers of them.
Honestly, pic related
And now, how to propaganda;
>(Propaganda) is nothing but a weapon, and indeed a most terrifying weapon in the hands of those who know how to use it. >The second question of decisive importance is this: To whom should propaganda be made to appeal? To the educated intellectual classes? Or to the less intellectual?
>Propaganda must always address itself to the broad masses of the people. For the intellectual classes, or what are called the intellectual classes to-day, propaganda is not suited, but only scientific exposition. Propaganda has as little to do with science as an advertisement poster has to do with art, as far as concerns the form in which it presents its message. The art of the advertisement poster consists in the ability of the designer to attract the attention of the crowd through the form and colours he chooses. The advertisement poster announcing an exhibition of art has no other aim than to convince the public of the importance of the exhibition. The better it does that, the better is the art of the poster as such.
>It was, for example, a fundamental mistake to ridicule the worth of the enemy as the Austrian and German comic papers made a chief point of doing in their propaganda.>The very principle here is a mistaken one; for, when they came face to face with the nemy, our soldiers had quite a different impression. Therefore, the mistake had disastrous results. Once the German soldier realised what a tough enemy he had to fight he felt that he had been deceived by the manufacturers of the information which had been given him. Therefore, instead of strengthening and stimulating his fighting spirit, this information had quite the contrary effect.>On the other hand, British and American war propaganda was psychologically efficient. By picturing the Germans to their own people as Barbarians and Huns, they were preparing their soldiers for the horrors of war and safeguarding them against illusions.
>(…) propaganda demands the most skilled brains that can be found.
>The worst of all was that our people did not understand the very first condition which has to be fulfilled in every kind of propaganda; namely, a systematically one-sided attitude towards every problem that has to be dealt with.
>The aim of propaganda is not to try to pass judgment on conflicting rights, giving each its due, but exclusively to emphasize the right which we are asserting. Propaganda must not investigate the truth objectively and, in so far as it is favourable to the other side, present it according to the theoretical rules of justice; yet it must present only that aspect of the truth which is favourable to its own side.
This one quote reminds me of the jews and the holocaust
>The great majority of a nation is so feminine in its character and outlook that its thought and conduct are ruled by sentiment rather than by sober reasoning. This sentiment, however, is not complex, but simple and consistent. It is not highly differentiated, but has only the negative and positive notions of love and hatred, right and wrong, truth and falsehood. Its notions are never partly this and partly that. English propaganda especially understood this in a marvellous way and put what they understood into practice. They allowed no half-measures which might have given rise to some doubt.
>The effectiveness of this kind of propaganda is well illustrated by the fact that after four-and-a-half years, not only was the enemy still carrying on his propagandist work, but it was already undermining the stamina of our people at home.
>No matter what an amount of talent employed in the organization of propaganda, it will have no result if due account is not taken of these fundamental principles. Propaganda must be limited to a few simple themes and these must be represented again and again. Here, as in innumerable other cases, perseverance is the first and most important condition of success.
Basically why pepe works
Continuing in next post because character limit
This part here is really important.
Also kind of explains certain posters in certain threads>Particularly in the field of propaganda, placid aesthetes and blase intellectuals should never be allowed to take the lead. The former would readily transform the impressive character of real propaganda into something suitable only for literary tea parties. As to the second class of people, one must always beware of this pest; for, in consequence of their insensibility to normal impressions, they are constantly seeking new excitements. >The blase intellectuals are always the first to criticize propaganda, or rather its message, because this appears to them to be outmoded and trivial. They are always looking for something new, always yearning for change; and thus they become the mortal enemies of every effort that may be made to influence the masses in an effective way. The moment the organization and message of a propagandist movement begins to be orientated according to their tastes it becomes incoherent and scattered.
>It is not the purpose of propaganda to create a series of alterations in sentiment with a view to pleasing these blase gentry. Its chief function is to convince the masses, whose slowness of understanding needs to be given time in order that they may absorb information; and only constant repetition will finally succeed in imprinting an idea on the memory of the crowd.
This also explains why /pol/ gets spammed with bbc and all sorts of shit
They are treating /pol/ as if it was a normal civilization, applying standart propaganda methods onto a virtual forum; That's pretty retarded if you ask me.
>The success of any advertisement, whether of a business or political nature, depends on the consistency and perseverance with which it is employed.
>In this respect also the propaganda organized by our enemies set us an excellent example. It confined itself to a few themes, which were meant exclusively for mass consumption, and it repeated these themes with untiring perseverance. Once these fundamental themes and the manner of placing them before the world were recognized as effective, they adhered to them without the slightest alteration for the whole duration of the War. At first all of it appeared to be idiotic in its impudent assertiveness. Later on it was looked upon as disturbing, but finally it was believed.
Aaand that is all for now, see you later madlads
Welcome, gentlecolts, to chapter 7
>IN 1915 the enemy started his propaganda among our soldiers. From 1916 onwards it
steadily became more intensive, and at the beginning of 1918 it had swollen into a storm
flood. One could now judge the effects of this proselytizing movement step by step.
Gradually our soldiers began to think just in the way the enemy wished them to think.
On the German side there was no counter-propaganda.
So, the meme magic works as intended, for the enemy.
>At the end of September 1916 my division was sent into
the Battle of the Somme. For us this was the first of a series of heavy engagements, and
the impression created was that of a veritable inferno, rather than war. Through weeks
of incessant artillery bombardment we stood firm, at times ceding a little ground but then taking it back again, and never giving way. On October 7th, 1916, I was wounded
but had the luck of being able to get back to our lines and was then ordered to be sent
by ambulance train to Germany.
And thus Hitler Is back home.
And after a long talk about war, which i personally really like but its too long to add here, we get some more history about jews
>In the business world the situation was even worse. Here the Jews had actually become
'indispensable'. Like leeches, they were slowly sucking the blood from the pores of the
national body. By means of newly floated War Companies an instrument had been
discovered whereby all national trade was throttled so that no business could be carried
>Special emphasis was laid on the necessity for unhampered centralization. Hence as
early as 1916-17 practically all production was under the control of Jewish finance.
And then Hitler went back to war
>I could not tolerate this execrable squabbling among people of the same German stock
and preferred to be at the front once again. Therefore, just after my arrival in Munich I
reported myself for service again. At the beginning of March 1917 I rejoined my old
regiment at the front.
Aand that will be all for now, we get a lot more about the situation on war and propaganda but for now, and since im on phone, this will be a shortpost.
Keep on reading poners and have a happy weekend break!
>>1816>propoganda, aesthetes and intellectuals
wow. this hitler guy really seems to know his stuff.
Welcome back, poners, i hope you enjoyed your weekend!
I sure did, in fact i have sleep for only 1 hour! ˢᵉⁿᵈ ʰᵉˡᵖ>>1822>>1821>>1820>>1819
It is nice to see so many faces around here, i hope you enjoy your stay!
So, to start out this morning, we get more stories about hitler in war>During the night of October 13th-14th, the British opened an attack with gas on the front south of Ypres. They used the yellow gas whose effect was unknown to us, at least from personal experience. I was destined to experience it that very night. On a hill south of Werwick, in the evening of October 13th, we were subjected for several hours to a heavy bombardment with gas bombs, which continued throughout the night with more or less intensity. About midnight a number of us were put out of action, some for ever. >Towards morning I also began to feel pain. It increased with every quarter of an hour; and about seven o'clock my eyes were scorching as I staggered back and delivered the last dispatch I was destined to carry in this war. A few hours later my eyes were like glowing coals and all was darkness around me.
Seems like our guy almost becomes blind, but then something even worse happens:>I was sent into hospital at Pasewalk in Pomerania, and there it was that I had to hear of the Revolution.
>Then one day disaster broke in upon us suddenly and without warning. Sailors came in motor-lorries and called on us to rise in revolt. A few Jew-boys were the leaders in that combat for the 'Liberty, Beauty, and Dignity' of our National Being. Not one of them had seen active service at the front.>My first thought was that this outbreak of high treason was only a local affair. I tried to enforce this belief among my comrades. My Bavarian hospital mates, in particular, were readily responsive. Their inclinations were anything but revolutionary. I could not imagine this madness breaking out in Munich; for it seemed to me that loyalty to the House of Wittelsbach was, after all, stronger than the will of a few Jews. And so I could not help believing that this was merely a revolt in the Navy and that it would be suppressed within the next few days.
>On November 10th the local pastor visited the hospital for the purpose of delivering a short address. And that was how we came to know the whole story. >The reverend old gentleman seemed to be trembling when he informed us that the House of Hohen-zollern should no longer wear the Imperial Crown, that the Fatherland had become a 'Republic', that we should pray to the Almighty not to withhold His blessing from the new order of things and not to abandon our people in the days to come. In delivering this message he could not do more than briefly express appreciation of the Royal House, its services to Pomerania, to Prussia, indeed, to the whole of the German Fatherland, and--here he began to weep. A feeling of profound dismay fell on the people in that assembly, and I do not think there was a single eye that withheld its tears. As for myself, I broke down completely when the old gentleman tried to resume his story by informing us that we must now end this long war, because the war was lost, he said, and we were at the mercy of the victor. The Fatherland would have to bear heavy burdens in the future. We were to accept the terms of the Armistice and trust to the magnanimity of our former enemies. It was impossible for me to stay and listen any longer. Darkness surrounded me as I staggered and stumbled back to my ward and buried my aching head between the blankets and pillow.>I had not cried since the day that I stood beside my mother's grave.
Handle the next passage carefully, it's a bit hot>So all had been in vain. In vain all the sacrifices and privations, in vain the hunger and thirst for endless months, in vain those hours that we stuck to our posts though the fear of death gripped our souls, and in vain the deaths of two millions who fell in discharging this duty. Think of those hundreds of thousands who set out with hearts full of faith in their fatherland, and never returned; ought not their graves to open, so that the spirits of those heroes bespattered with mud and blood should come home and take vengeance on those who had so despicably betrayed the greatest sacrifice which a human being can make for his country? Was it for this that the soldiers died in August and September 1914, for this that the volunteer regiments followed the old comrades in the autumn of the same year? Was it for this that those boys of seventeen years of age were mingled with the earth of Flanders? Was this meant to be the fruits of the sacrifice which German mothers made for their Fatherland when, with heavy hearts, they said good-bye to their sons who never returned? Has all this been done in order to enable a gang of despicable criminals to lay hands on the Fatherland?
>During the following days my own fate became clear to me. I was forced now to scoff at the thought of my personal future, which hitherto had been the cause of so much worry to me.>Emperor William II was the first German Emperor to offer the hand of friendship to the Marxist leaders, not suspecting that they were scoundrels without any sense of honour.>There is no such thing as coming to an understanding with the Jews. It must be the hard-and-fast 'Either-Or.'
And finally, after a long, long time>For my part I then decided that I would take up political work.
Our guy decides to take part in political work.
Congrats, if you read till here now you have the power to automatically btfo myths about hitler and the nazi party!
And now, welcome to chapter 8!>The Beginning Of My Political Activities
Where our guy Hitler will slowly make his way up the ladder! ᵗᶦˡˡ ʰᵉ ᵃᵗᵗᵉᵐᵖˢ ᵃ ᶜᵒᵘᵖ ᵈ'ᵉᵗᵃᵗ ᵃⁿᵈ ᵉⁿᵈˢ ᵘᵖ ᶦⁿ ʲᵃᶦˡ
>TOWARDS THE end of November I returned to Munich. I went to the depot of my regiment, which was now in the hands of the 'Soldiers' Councils'. As the whole administration was quite repulsive to me, I decided to leave it as soon as I possibly could. With my faithful war-comrade, Ernst-Schmidt, I came to Traunstein and remained there until the camp was broken up. In March 1919 we were back again in Munich.
>I spent whole days pondering on the problem of what could be done, but unfortunately every project had to give way before the hard fact that I was quite unknown and therefore did not have even the first pre-requisite necessary for effective action. Later on I shall explain the reasons why I could not decide to join any of the parties then in existence.
>As the new Soviet Revolution began to run its course in Munich my first activities drew upon me the ill-will of the Central Council. In the early morning of April 27th, 1919, I was to have been arrested; but the three fellows who came to arrest me did not have the courage to face my rifle and withdrew just as they had arrived.
That's honestly pretty badass
>After another few weeks I received orders to attend a course of lectures which were being given to members of the army. This course was meant to inculcate certain fundamental principles on which the soldier could base his political ideas. For me the advantage of this organization was that it gave me a chance of meeting fellow soldiers who were of the same way of thinking and with whom I could discuss the actual situation. We were all more or less firmly convinced that Germany could not be saved from imminent disaster by those who had participated in the November treachery--that is to say, the Centre and the Social-Democrats; and also that the so-called Bourgeois-National group could not make good the damage that had been done, even if they had the best intentions. They lacked a number of requisites without which such a task could never be successfully undertaken. The years that followed have justified the opinions which we held at that time.>In our small circle we discussed the project of forming a new party. The leading ideas which we then proposed were the same as those which were carried into effect afterwards, when the German Labour Party was founded. The name of the new movement which was to be founded should be such that of itself, it would appeal to the mass of the people; for all our efforts would turn out vain and useless if this condition were lacking. And that was the reason why we chose the name 'Social-Revolutionary Party', particularly because the social principles of our new organization were indeed revolutionary.
>(…)>Previously I did not recognize with adequate clearness the difference between capital which is purely the product of creative labour and the existence and nature of capital which is exclusively the result of financial speculation. Here I needed an impulse to set my mind thinking in this direction; but that impulse had hitherto been lacking. >The requisite impulse now came from one of the men who delivered lectures in the course I have already mentioned. This was Gottfried Feder.
>For the first time in my life I heard a discussion which dealt with the principles of stock-exchange capital and capital which was used for loan activities. After hearing the first lecture delivered by Feder, the idea immediately came into my head that I had now found a way to one of the most essential pre-requisites for the founding of a new party.
>It is not the business of him who lays down a theoretical programme to explain the various ways in which something can be put into practice. His task is to deal with the problem as such; and, therefore, he has to look to the end rather than the means. The important question is whether an idea is fundamentally right or not. >The question of whether or not it may be difficult to carry it out in practice is quite another matter>To pursue ideals which will still be of value and significance for the future is generally not a very profitable undertaking and he who follows such a course is only very rarely understood by the mass of the people, who find beer and milk a more persuasive index of political values than far-sighted plans for the future, the realization of which can only take place later on and the advantages of which can be reaped only by posterity.To pursue ideals which will still be of value and significance for the future is generally not a very profitable undertaking and he who follows such a course is only very rarely understood by the mass of the people, who find beer and milk a more persuasive index of political values than far-sighted plans for the future, the realization of which can only take place later on and the advantages of which can be reaped only by posterity.
>The position of the constructive political philosopher is quite different. The importance of his work must always be judged from the standpoint of the future; and he is frequently described by the word WELTFREMD, or dreamer. While the ability of the politician consists in mastering the art of the possible, the founder of a political system belongs to those who are said to please the gods only because they wish for and demand the impossible. They will always have to renounce contemporary fame; but if their ideas be immortal, posterity will grant them its acknowledgment.
Aaand that's it for today folk, keep on reading and see you tomorrow!
Hey guys, welcome again to this little thread
Today, our next foe is page 181 to page 190, so let us begin at once; Within long spans of human progress(…)
>The greater the work which a man does for the future, the less will he be appreciated by his contemporaries. His struggle will accordingly be all the more severe, and his success all the rarer. When, in the course of centuries, such a man appears who is blessed with success then, towards the end of his days, he may have a faint prevision of his future fame.
Deep shit, huh
And this is supposed to be a "book filled with hatred"
>The great protagonists are those who fight for their ideas and ideals despite the fact that they receive no recognition at the hands of their contemporaries.
>To this group belong not only the genuinely great statesmen but all the great reformers as well.
It would be hard to center a political campaing both on the long and short run, do you think current day politicians are prepared to deal with these questions, or care about them at all?
Do they care about their people?
>Any idea may be a source of danger if it be looked upon as an end in itself, when really it is only the means to an end. For me and for all genuine National-Socialists there is only one doctrine. PEOPLE AND FATHERLAND.
>What we have to fight for is the necessary security for the existence and increase of our race and people, the subsistence of its children and the maintenance of our racial stock unmixed, the freedom and independence of the Fatherland; so that our people may be enabled to fulfil the mission assigned to it by the Creator.
He said the thing!
>(…)Another of the participants thought that he would break a lance for the Jews and entered into a lengthy defence of them. This aroused my opposition. An overwhelming number of those who attended the lecture course supported my views. The consequence of it all was that, a few days later, I was assigned to a regiment then stationed at Munich and given a position there as 'instruction officer'.
Wish it was that easy these days
>I took up my work with the greatest delight and devotion. Here I was presented with an opportunity of speaking before quite a large audience. I was now able to confirm what I had hitherto merely felt, namely, that I had a talent for public speaking. My voice had become so much better that I could be well understood, at least in all parts of the small hall where the soldiers assembled.
New skill discovered
>I am able to state that my talks were successful. During the course of my lectures I have led back hundreds and even thousands of my fellow countrymen to their people and their fatherland. I 'nationalized' these troops and by so doing I helped to restore general discipline.
And then, chapter 9
>My opinion of the 'German Labour Party' was not very different after I had listened to their proceedings for about two hours. I was glad when Feder finally came to a close. I had observed enough and was just about to leave when it was announced that anybody who wished was free to open a discussion. Thereupon, I decided to remain. But the discussion seemed to proceed without anything of vital importance being mentioned, when suddenly a 'professor' commenced to speak. He opened by throwing doubt on the accuracy of what Feder had said, and then. after Feder had replied very effectively, the professor suddenly took up his position on what he called 'the basis of facts,' but before this he recommended the young party most urgently to introduce the secession of Bavaria from Prussia as one of the leading proposals in its programme. In the most self-assured way, this man kept on insisting that German-Austria would join Bavaria and that the peace would then function much better. He made other similarly extravagant statements. At this juncture I felt bound to ask for permission to speak and to tell the learned gentleman what I thought. The result was that the honourable gentleman who had last spoken slipped out of his place, like a whipped cur, without uttering a sound. While I was speaking the audience listened with an expression of surprise on their faces. When I was just about to say good-night to the assembly and to leave, a man came after me quickly and introduced himself. I did not grasp the name correctly; but he placed a little book in my hand, which was obviously a political pamphlet, and asked me very earnestly to read it.
That's quite a show of bravery
And then stuff happened, and hitler ended up having a meeting with the few young men in charge of the german labour's party
>I now began to ask questions. But I found that, apart from a few general principles, there was nothing--no programme, no pamphlet, nothing at all in print, no card of membership, not even a party stamp, nothing but obvious good faith and good intentions.
>I no longer felt inclined to laugh; for what else was all this but a typical sign of the most complete perplexity and deepest despair in regard to all political parties, their programmes and views and activities? The feeling which had induced those few young people to join in what seemed such a ridiculous enterprise was nothing but the call of the inner voice which told them--though more intuitively than consciously--that the whole party system as it had hitherto existed was not the kind of force that could restore the German nation or repair the damages that had been done to the German people by those who hitherto controlled the internal affairs of the nation. I quickly read through the list of principles that formed the platform of the party. These principles were stated on typewritten sheets. Here again I found evidence of the spirit of longing and searching, but no sign whatever of a knowledge of the conflict that had to be fought. I myself had experienced the feelings which inspired those people. It was the longing for a movement which should be more than a party, in the hitherto accepted meaning of that word.
>The so-called 'intellectuals' still look down with infinite superciliousness on anyone who has not been through the prescribed schools and allowed them to pump the necessary knowledge into him. The question of what a man can do is never asked but rather, what has he learned? 'Educated' people look upon any imbecile who is plastered with a number of academic certificates as superior to the ablest young fellow who lacks these precious documents. I could therefore easily imagine how this 'educated' world would receive me and I was wrong only in so far as I then believed men to be for the most part better than they proved to be in the cold light of reality. Because of their being as they are, the few exceptions stand out all the more conspicuously. I learned more and more to distinguish between those who will always be at school and those who will one day come to know something in reality.
>After two days of careful brooding and reflection I became convinced that I must take the contemplated step.
>It was the most fateful decision of my life. No retreat was possible.
>Thus I declared myself ready to accept the membership tendered me by the German Labour Party and received a provisional certificate of membership.
>I was numbered SEVEN.
>>1823>A few Jew-boys were the leaders in that combat for the 'Liberty, Beauty, and Dignity' of our National Being. Not one of them had seen active service at the front.>Not one of them had seen active service
It sounds familiar, like the jews agitating for to take over the means of production, but they never were workers.>>1826>The greater the work which a man does for the future, the less will he be appreciated by his contemporaries
Sad but true.
>For me and for all genuine National-Socialists there is only one doctrine. PEOPLE AND FATHERLAND.
A high contrast with the golems larping as leaders today.
>I was assigned to a regiment then stationed at Munich and given a position there as 'instruction officer'.>Wish it was that easy these days
Today that is impossible, as you noticed the jews have established a dense network of gatekeepers, from teachers at elemental school all the way till the president.>>1827>I learned more and more to distinguish between those who will always be at school and those who will one day come to know something in reality.
Like the difference between the theoretical leftie charlatan and the grounded nationalist.
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And now, i present to you, chapter 10 Why The Second Reich Collapsed.
We get a looot of on this, so much in fact i cannot post quotes without them losing their context, so here is the closing statement>This shows only too clearly how false it is to say that the loss of the War was the cause of the German break-up. No. The military defeat was itself but the consequence of a whole series of morbid symptoms and their causes which had become active in the German nation before the War broke out.>The War was the first catastrophal consequence, visible to all, of how traditions and national morale had been poisoned and how the instinct of self-preservation had degenerated. These were the preliminary causes which for many years had been undermining the foundations of the nation and the Empire.
>the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously.
This is an interesting concept.
>He (Schopenhauer) called the Jew "The Great Master of Lies". Those who do not realize the truth of that statement, or do not wish to believe it, will never be able to lend a hand in helping Truth to prevail.
This kind of quote is frustrating, it was so common in the past to call out an entire race for being shitheads but now you can't even make a joke.
>It was not by accident that man conquered the black plague more easily than he conquered tuberculosis. The first appeared in terrifying waves of death that shook the whole of mankind, the other advances insidiously; the first induces terror, the other gradual indifference. The result is, however, that men opposed the first with all the energy they were capable of, whilst they try to arrest tuberculosis by feeble means. Thus man has mastered the black plague, while tuberculosis still gets the better of him.>The same applies to diseases in nations. So long as these diseases are not of a catastrophic character, the population will slowly accustom itself to them and later succumb.
Day of the big knoif when?
Little quotes for today