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>>5697
Technically speaking, it's both. NLP is a tool for both effective speakers addressing a crowd/audience as well as individuals engaged in artifice. The presence of NLP techniques doesnt immediately mean nefarious intent, but any time there are NLP techniques, there IS the possibility of nefarious intent.

>>5709
Oh rly? Throw a Christian parade

Remember prayer. Pray always.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNAw5is5LXY

>>5712
Republics are gay.

>>5713
I agree. The meme is targeting the maga normies.

Check Sodom and Gomorrah out.
>WELCOME 2 THE END OF DAYS CHURCH OF ABOMINATIONS
>2 Thessalonians 2
>1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
>2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
>3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
>4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
>5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? 6And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/RUGQUJERQhxZ/
Absolutely pure filth inside the churches.

>>5742
Quite literally the opposite, as He likes all the things so much that He wants to hold off total destruction as long as possible. This is a pattern throughout the Bible where even when people deserve destruction, you can turn it around by asking for forgiveness. Nineveh, for example, was going to be wiped out. They asked God to not do that and He said sure. All they had to do in return was not be so degenerate. This enraged the Jewish messenger, Jonah, to suicidal tendencies, telling God that he knew the plan was always to give them an out because He constantly loves everyone, even when they reject God.

God deliberately created a world full of things that do not like Him and now He pays the way at His own expense for them to be equal with Him on the throne in eternal forgiveness. How could this be happening to us?

>>5819
Who is Lilith?
I'd ask Google but Google would give me a homosexual response.

>>5820
A common name for women in the Philippines.

>>5820
A succubus, the first one according to the source material. Supposedly Adam's first Wife before Eve. Some feminists have unironically embraced her as the very first feminist. They see her as a proud women who rebelled to the patriarchy for the very first time.
Shit is particularly prevalent with Mexican feminists.

>>5822
>Lilith the succubus
Reeeeeeeee.

>>5822
And what source material are you referring to?

>>5825
Also, wheres the part where the priest is diddling the young boy?

>>5821
It's also the name of a Darkstalkers character.
>>5822
That sounds weird, where can I read more about this?

>>5826
Jewish folklore? I dunno, am not particularly well-read on the subject. I just stated the general overview that femmes have about it.
I mostly looked this up to borrow...I mean, take inspiration for my fic a while ago. (I was still writing down the timeline for when the Dazzlings show up.)
>>5829
>where can I read more about this?
Don't know tbh, sorry.
Although there's certainly more to it. There's a theory that suggests that Lilith is the so-called Queen Of Heaven from the bible. And that she's present in every major culture around the world.
The virgin Mary is one such example, as some people refer to it as Queen of Heaven. There's also another Saint in Russia which is also called that way, but I don't quite remember which one.
It's all related to the sacred prostitutes, words like "whore" actually had honorable, or positive meanings back then.
Even the word "puta", which is the Spanish word for whore, also had a positive meaning.

My memory is blurred and the video alongside its sources is gone. Am gonna try and find 'em when i have the time.

>>5830
So your source is "IDK, I read it once lol"?
*sigh*
https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/biblical-topics/hebrew-bible/lilith-in-the-bible-and-mythology/
There's a good start. Take with a grain of salt, I haven't vetted the site/source

>>5831
>So your source is "IDK, I read it once lol"?
I think it's more of...
>I've sat down and talk to a lot of feminists A.K.A: blue-haired wamen
>And this is what they believe in.

Anyways.
<In the post-Biblical period, some ancient Jewish scholars took the stance that Genesis 1:27 and Genesis 2:21–22 must describe two separate events, since it appears that woman is created differently in these accounts.... “Considering every word of the Bible to be accurate and sacred, commentators needed a midrash or story to explain the disparity in the creation narratives of Genesis 1 and 2. God creates woman twice—once with man, once from man’s rib—so there must have been two women. The Bible names the second woman Eve; Lilith was identified as the FIRST in order to complete the story.” Accordingly, Genesis 1:27 describes the creation of Adam and an unnamed woman (Lilith); Genesis 2:7 gives more details of Adam’s creation; and Genesis 2:21–22 describes the creation of Eve from Adam.

Yup, that's the stance these women have taken as well.

The succubus part comes from other Jewish sources, outside of the bible, as all Succubus are believed to be descendants of Lilith.

Anything about the sacred prostitutes bit?

>>5832
The name Lilith comes from mesopotamian folklore, referring to a Babylonian demon/vampire/fairy that locals spoke of in ballads and whatnot. The name was picked up through cultural diffusion, and attributed to the unnamed first woman.

>>5833
Kay...Still calling it Lilith as it changes little to nothing.

>>5832
>sacred prostitutes
Mary Magdalene comes to mind
>blue haired women
And what part of them made it seem like they had the faintest idea what they were talking about?

>>5836
>its filler, nevermind it predates the bible
Classic

To clarify, I'm not endorsing blue haired women or their interpretation of the Bible.
I AM asserting that the story(ies) of Lillith far predate "orthodoxy", with reason and cause, and that one does themselves a disservice to ignore (read: ignorance) such accounts. There is fruit there, if one has the nerve to look.

>>5835
>Mary Magdalene comes to mind
Bit more extensive than that, but it's pretty clear why you are here anyways.
>>5839
Agreed.
Going off of your record tho, I'd say being so comically cryptic won't help either.

>>5835
>>5836
I posted the meme as a joke. The point is that there's a certain type of person (blue haired teenaged girl) who fixates on that name because of pop culture during conversations about scripture, despite waning relevancy.
>>5839
Nobody is ignoring it.
A lot of things predate "orthodoxy"; that doesn't necessarily make them relevant to every discussion.

>>5841
Right, I don't find it particularly abhorrent either way. It just seems like anon rushed in without context.

>>5841
And yet, you also display that the blue haired girl might know more about religious history than you
>so what?
Is bible-history irrelevant to the bible study thread?

>>5844
Walk on back to the alt history thread. I would rather this thread not be filled with triggered ranting about a meme because your ideology wasn't painted in a positive light.

>>5845
Who's ideology are you referring to? Idgaf about Lilith or whatever, but blatant ignorance will be called out

>>5844
>you also display that the blue haired girl might know more about religious history than you
???
How?
>Bible history
I know the history. It was a meme, and I think you missed the joke.

>>5846
What ignorance?

A look into subversives piggy-backing on The Bible:

>King James Onlyism: A Front for Talmudic Judaism
>James W Knox is also a proponent of King James Onlyism, which very few know is a Satanic movement whose agenda is to introduce Christians to Jewish Kabbalism. James Knox is promoted by Gail Riplinger who is exposed as a Jewish Kabbalist on this website.
>The King James Version is not Inerrant and was Translated from Multiple Texts
>James Knox and King James Only advocates teach that the King James Bible is divinely inspired and inerrant. This false teaching ignores and suppresses much evidence to the contrary. (Though the King James Bible isn't inerrant, it is still (along with the NKJV) the best English bible translation).
https://www.zionismexposed.com/king-james-onlyism/

How do I defend Christ and Christianity?
I don't know how to do that. How to make convincing arguments in favor of this religion. Sure, it's clearly the best religion. I can see that but the Godless can't. I don't see any Indian or Muslim charities trying to help the people Christians want to help. But what do I say to the atheist talking points like "muh crusades" and "muh indulgences" and "we don't need gods any more"?

>>6051
The first thing you need to do is to study the Bible. If you don't know what the Bible says, contains, commands, or the primary message, you can't defend it. Simply asserting being correct will do no good. You need to internalize and memorize the core of the text to see through deception about what the Bible says and things that cannot align with the Bible. If you believe it to be true, you have to be able to understand what is false. Representing the Bible correctly is key as trying to make it say something it doesn't will make you fail every time.

Second, you can't gauge Christianity as the best of choices or the nicest of options. It is either truth, leaving all else as shortcoming at best, deception at worst, or it is yet another story. You can't defend Christianity by suggesting it is a better option. People judge better options by secular and personal standards and desire. Why be Christian when I could live for myself and determine all of my actions are justified by the eternal light of myself? The answer is the truth the Bible provides, that man is judged by God and not themselves, an impossible standard and not living nicely. We are already condemned and simultaneously justified freely by Christ. This is what makes Christianity unique and true. No one can earn heaven, which is the calling of all other religions. Hell does exist which is denied by those that refuse all religion, as the individual has no power to justify their own eternal soul. The corruption we contribute to must be paid for with blood and death. That payment was made by Christ. We are all judged by His own account freely. All that is needed is to turn to He who paid this cost and rose again, conquering death forever, and form our eternal relationship with Him.

Third, you need to study the logic of both the Bible and those that deny it. It will take time to figure out all the intricate arguments all sides have, but each will have a flaw if they are based on deception or fantasy. The truth becomes evident as you study the nature of God, of man, of other interpretations of gods and powers, and the history of the world. Studying the probability of organic formation of amino acids for example will aid your ability to understand the logic of evolution for example. They suggest with enough time, life is inevitable, but the cosmic scale makes it improbable to such a degree that it borders on the insane. Amino acids form in left- and right-hand variations, named after their chemical bond formations. The right-hand variation breaks down organic chains for protein, the needed ingredient for life as we know it. This creates a massive problem for the natural formation of life as it grows to numbers of 1 in 10^80 even as high as 1 in 10^140 with the lowest suggested being 1 in 10^30 with a little agreement with this number I can find. This is a massive number, combined with the limited chances of other planets and their limited life spans with stars collapsing and the accelerating expansion of the galaxy suggesting that there is a finite formation of new stars and planets, the logic of life forming by chance becomes impossibly improbable.

Finally, you need to be a good witness. Engaging in conversations will rarely convince anyone. Instead, focus on building a reputation that will be offering your beliefs with people knowing that you are not fighting for no reason, but doing so in love, trying to share something that means the world to you with others and become brothers in Christ, joining together in the wonderful revelation of Scripture. The goal isn't to be on top of a debate, but to reach out to people, show that the Bible does make sense, that God is real and desires a relationship with you, and you desire a relationship with them.

It is so easy to get caught up in the moment and argue pointlessly, making yourself look like a fool. I am guilty of that. I am also guilty of being a bad witness. But by returning to the Bible, you return to the correction that awaits in the pages, reminding you to let God do the work in convicting. Faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the Word of God. This means that our own actions aren't the root of changing people's minds. It is God's job. Our job is simply to show it to people. You will find it much less stressful that way.