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Rule Rewrite
Lotus
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Hi anon! We reformed the rule set! Check it out here
https://mlpol.net/policy

>What was wrong with the old set?
So very, very many things

To start off, it was not made on mlpol.net. It was made on April 2, 2017, on the merged board of 4chan. It was never made for this website, nor any independent site, and it has no reflection to our situation. The vast majority of people who participated in that thread on 4chan are not here now, and do not use mlpol.net. Several of the rules in the old set were added by staff over the years and were never voted on.

Second, it has no bearing at all to rules as enforced and probably never has. The number one violation for which we issue bans is and long has been spam. Those little cyrilic bot posts with the ultra-low-resolution images. Tell me where in the old rule set it says "do not spam?" Pro-tip: it doesn't. A majority of all of our moderation enforcement has been against something that isn't even listed as against the rules. There is also no rule in it against off-board raiding - even though that is clearly the spirit of several of the rules - and off board raids have long been one of the dominant reasons for bans.

It worked the other way as well. The rule against "generals" was discarded in practical enforcement in the first year when we decided to allow Syria General to post on /mlpol/. Not long after this, anonfilly was invited after being kicked off of /mlp/. There's also that unstated rule 1 and rule 2. "Don't talk about /mlpol/." We realized within a month of April 2 that not advertising the board - which now was off of 4chan and was it's own website - was a bad idea.

The rule set had absolutely no rule against insufferable and obnoxious posters, and that was a rather big issue.

And you can't tell me it wasn't ungainly and long. It was two typed pages. That isn't useful.

The rule set was prone to misinterpretation, or at least, to give the wrong impression to newcomers. I met with a friend who didn't know I had anything to do with mlpol, and asked him what he thought about the altchans. He told me that mlpol.net and /poner/ was hampered by its banning of generals. A rule we have enfored... once? Ever? Back in the summer of 2017?

And yes, the rules lawyering around the "striped" thread was a factor. Rather than arguing actually relevant issues like whether or not the zebras having sex with twilight were a part of fetish, or posted with a deliberate intent to disrupt the board, instead time and energy is wasted arguing with people who in some cases had never used the board before that day over what degree the my little pony porn resembled some kind of thread that was spammed on the /pol/ board many years ago. That's not helpful.

>Why now? Why not after a long, lengthy process?
It should have been overhauled years ago. I have wanted to overhaul the rules for years. The primary reason we have not is because we didn't have an idea for how to codify a moderator response to what we considered to be edge cases - posters who seemed to be acting in good faith, but who were so horrifically and consistently obnoxious it ruined the experience for everyone around them. It wasn't until this year that I figured out the blanket term "disruptive" captures the essence of these edge cases, but also posting types we ban anyways, like off-board raiders and spam.

>But why now specifically?
Because now is the time that reforms that have been long put off are most needed.

>Why these rules?
I wanted the rules to do three things. One, to reflect actual enforcement and the needs of moderation. Two, to be rather limited, allow most posts to be permitted, and maximum freedom to posters. And three, be short and easy to understand. What we came up with, I think, does capture most circumstances where moderation action is needed, and does so in a succinct and easy to understand manner. Some of the rules could easily be split up into smaller rules, but still, it is a short list of rules.

>Why does the policy page say that the rule set is "under construction"?
Because that part of the policy page is probably going to be modified to include a description of the boards and any rules that might be specific to the board

>But shouldn't the community discuss the rules?
Well, this is the thread. Discuss it now. As stated, the rules were written to reflect actual enforcement. These are things that we have already discussed endlessly, including last year when there was a proposal to add a "lurk more" rule. And besides, if you haven't noticed, who the "community" even is right now is in a state of flux. The newcomers need a very simple set of rules that they can read, understand, and not misinterpret, and they need it now.

>Does this mean that /poner/ is not getting rules on porn?
Not necessarily. We've decided that we will give that a little more time to decide what to do. It's very unlikely that we are going to make /poner/ a completely blue board, but it's far from out of the question that we will add rules like no NSFW in the OP, no porn dumping, or require spoilers. If this is added, it will not be listed on the global rule set. It will be under the board specific rule set, which as of now has not been added.

>You're a faggot
no u
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Anonymous
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>The crux being disingenuous posting, blending in like a jew into white countries then subverting the community. IDs will not entirely solve it, but it could put a damper in it.
That was my point. Sure, you could filter disruptive posters and once they realise they are being ignored, they'll switch IDs and start again. Rinse and repeat ad infinitum. I just scroll past and move on. Unless I'm shitfaced. I do plan on going to >>>/cyb/1545 → to use the thread there, maybe encourage others to move as well.
Anonymous
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>>9857
>I just scroll past and move on
That's what people have to do here, in the wild west. But unfortunately 4chan /mlp/ was cultivated on bait from the very beginning.
The divisions on where people stop enjoying pony only make baiting more prominent. mlpol so far hasn't stepped in really at all, and leaves it almost entirely to self-police a community of people who have low impulse control.

And when people do bring it up instead of just seething openly and driving further bait threads, they're generally blocked by naïve mods
Anonymous
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>>9859
>mlpol so far hasn't stepped in really at all, and leaves it almost entirely to self-police a community of people who have low impulse control.
I don't really have an issue with that, in all honesty. The mods have their reasons for their moderation policies, I'm sure. I wouldn't dare expect them to kowtow to a group of refugees yet they have been incredibly accommodating with implementing feature requests and actively engaging with the community.

I've engaged with the Turboautist several times, trying to understand his reasoning on matters but he's without substance, refusing to talk in good faith and be deliberately obtuse. Ostracism and social exclusion is probably the only thing that would have any effect as he'll get angrier, and angrier until he starts posting things that would probably piss off the mods.
Anonymous
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>>9843
I don't phonepost and I generally agree with this idea. Still, even if you don't post there's nothing wrong with lurking. Important news gets shared to the site and there are high-effort threads like the /lit/ threads that are fun to read on their own. Sometimes you want to catch up with what's been posted on the board and think about what you would like to write before you actually get a solid opportunity. Other times you might have windows of time to work on a single post during a busy schedule. These are all things I've done from browsing the site in public on occasion.
Anonymous
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>>9560
>implying he doesn't suck even worse there
Point in case:
https://twibooru.org/posts/1638802#comment_17141
>Update: per The Faggot, the importer's been banned.
>Given recent events with Lotus and Co. i do not expect this to be undone and nobody on the modteam really wants to put up with them to ask for a fix.
>>9607
Feral as a term makes sense exclusively in the context of zoophiles who want to fuck nonsapient animals. It does not mean "animal shaped" (that'd be zoomorphic), it means "not trained or owned, re-wilded animal of domesticated species".
So yeah it makes even less sense with ponies than it does with furfag subculture.
>>9861
>I wouldn't dare expect them to kowtow to a group of refugees
>/leftypol/ tier BBCuck administration
Pick one.
Lotus
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>>9885
Anon, I don't know what the hell you are talking about. Something about Twibooru and a comment that isn't actually available in the link and I cannot read. It sounds important. What the hell are you talking about?
Anonymous
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>>9886
NTA but
>comments are disabled by default (Settings -> Comments)
Anonymous
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>>9886
This is what he's talking about
Anonymous
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>>9886
Looks like retarded drama.
Lotus
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>>9887
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>>9889
Okay, I have a guess as to what this is about.

Last weekend I noticed that PonerPics would on occasion return an internal server error. This is a sign of excessive stress on the server. So I went into Cloudflare, and found several countries where the traffic was obviously not from humans, and placed restrictions. I'm guessing that one of these is includes the Twibooru scraper and thus has banned it from scraping PonerPics. This has happened before.

I have unrestricted two of the four restricted countries. I think that will unban the Twibooru scrapper, though I don't know which IP it uses. I wish someone would reach out to me instead of just saying "they banned us? oh well, fuck them."

And maybe this has nothing to do with that, I don't know. But it's a guess.
Lotus
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>>9890
Okay, looking into Cloudflare, as well as looking at the DM Floorb sent me two years ago, I can see that one of the rules I enabled blocked the country that the Twibooru Importer came from two years ago. That rule has been disabled.

I'm not sure what the rest of that post was about though.
Anonymous
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>>9891
They seem majorly assblasted over something, but... shrug.
Anonymous
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>>9890
>several countries where the traffic was obviously not from humans
Subhumans need ponies too ^:(
Anonymous
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>>9892
>over something
You mean over Lotus being a zigger horsecock loving buffoon(which he is by the way)?
Anonymous
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>>9895
Hi Boxless! Could you post your tits?
Anonymous
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>>9895
He is a buffoon, and he does love ziggers, but the horsecock is debatable
Lotus ## Admin
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>>9895
There are zero zebra threads on any boards on mlpol.net. The lone thread has fallen off the board, and any new attempts have been deleted. There are no zebras to be angry about. How are you still upset over this?
Anonymous
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>>9895
Making baseless and retarded accusations about somepony doesn't do anything for the issues you supposedly care about. All it does it make you look like a buffoon yourself and cause people to get at each others' throat.
Anonymous
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>>9898
Oh, you're gonna pretend you haven't had your way with Zala?
>>9899
See above
John Elway
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>>9900
Everyone on staff has had their way with Zala, it's kind of an initiation around here
Anonymous
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>>9901
Zala is an honorary pony, and an original /mlpol/ OC born on this very site. Zala has birthright citizenship, unless the 14th Amendment is revoked.
Anonymous
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>>9901
Everyone on staff was on staff before Zala became a thing, you can't bullshit me.
Anonymous
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>>9902
Concurred, my point of emphasis is that Lotus IS in fact a zigger lover; horsecock will need validation (not saying implausible).
Anonymous
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>>9903
Initiation for Zala, not staff.
Anonymous
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LOTUS MAKE YOUR MODS MERGE TAGS AND IMAGES OR CAN THEIR ASSES HOLY FUCK HOW THE FUCK DO YOU HIRE THESE RETARD JANNIES DO YOUR FUCKING JOB
Anonymous
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Nothing says "reasonable request" like an all-caps rage
Anonymous
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>>9913
NIGGER THESE MODS LEAVE TAG MERGER REQUESTS ON THE /FORUM/ UP FOR MONTHS!
IT TAKES 10 SECONDS TO MERGE TAGS TOGETHER. ON A FORUM THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO WATCH. BECAUSE ITS FOR THE MOD TEAM. I MIGHT AS WELL BE SCREAMING INTO THE VOID BECAUSE LOTUS DOESNT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS ON HIS SITE AS LONG AS NOTHING IS DOWN AND NOTHING IS ILLEGAL. HE IS A LAZY NIGGER AND SO ARE HIS MODS.
Lotus
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>>9912
Actually, I was just thinking about making a "State of PonerPics" update in the forums
Anonymous
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Seethes high.
Anonymous
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>>9914
Well aren't you just rambunctious!
Anonymous
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>>9915
Holy fuck. Kick your nigger mods or make them work. I just checked how old some of these requests are and guess what I see?
>Posted about a year ago
Take in jannies who will do shit holy fuck
Anonymous
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>>9914
I like your spirit, I'd give you tag-merging privileges.
Lotus
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Okay, call for new jannies has gone out on PonerPics.

There should be an update on the situation soon(TM)
Anonymous
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>>9850
>They made this thread after all.
I'll retract this for now. I for some reason assumed the new rules would be better but since I haven't compared them, I don't know. I'll try to inspect and compare them and see which I prefer. Maybe they were changed too much in the heat of the moment. We'll see.
Anonymous
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>>9693
><YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND I AM UNABLE TO NOT TOUCH MY DICK THE MOMENT I SEE TITS ON A SCREEN!!!! REEEEEEEEEE!
I mean, visual stimuli will make the body of a male (or female but other stimuli) have a reaction. You might be able to ignore it for a while but it's painful and if you're all alone, ego-depletion will probably get you in the end. This is just how things go.
If you wanna test this yourself, you can make sure you will not be disturbed, hit up a porn browsers, undress, and just marathon but don't masturbate, and see how far you get.
Your body does not like missing out so it will cause you pain when you don't indulged that's why resisting things is so hard.
Anonymous
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>>10011
>it will cause you pain
Like if I tase you, you jump aside. The body tase you with emotions instead, to not miss out, to avoid danger, and so on.
Anonymous
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>>10011
You have no willpower, anon. That's no better than a wild beast.
Anonymous
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>>9617
Anonymous
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>>9821
t. no fun
Anonymous
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>>9386
Instead of more boards we should imitate 4chan as much as possible.
150 threads a board. 500 posts a thread.
Blue boards. Red boards.
Blue /pony/ for /mlp/ refugees; blue /mlpol/ for /pol/, /int/, /his/, /sci/, and /k/ refugees; red /clop/ for pony porn and /trash/ refugees; and red /mlpol/ for /pol/ refugees who aren't safe.
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>>10059
What purpose would splitting /mlpol/ into a blue board (/pol/ was never blue) and a red board serve? It would just hurt activity and discussions since the same topics would be divided and more annoying to switch between. I can see /clop/ being useful but even if /poner/ becomes blue it would be redundant thanks to /sp/ and /mlpol/.
Anonymous
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>>10060
This, splitting up the board will only hurt activity.
Anonymous
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>>10060
>>10066
Anonymous
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>>10060
Red /mlpol/ stays but there'll be a blue board for /int/ and co.
Anonymous
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I'd like to propose a rule where jannies get paid
Anonymous
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>>10079
I suggest that we TRIPLE jannies salaries.
Anonymous
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>>10080
Well, they're already doing it for free, but what if they WEREN'T?
Anonymous
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>they do it for something
Anonymous
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whenever jannies delete my post, i remember I wrote it for fun and they deleted it for free
Anonymous
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Are Ponerpics jannies also responsible for cleaning up mlpol?

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