/qa/ - Questions and Answers

>>6810
>gets called out
Actually it was a subtle way to call your attention. Sorry if you didn't get it.

>>6811
>drawfaggotry
okay, but wheres the green anon? where are my prompts?
fuck even actual /pol/ has the occasional hitler prompt.

>>6812
Okay ESL kun, but if you want to make it clear you are talking to the thread instead of me, you don't link my post to make it clear you're addressing the thread.

>>6809
>Want more pony? Then post ponies, don't expect someponer do it for you.
I agree with this sentiment.
But it's not like I'm really against entertaining the idea in my mind, I just don't like the hard rhetoric. There might be merits to this split but my points on why haven't been answered in a satisfying way because I've been mostly attacked. When I'm personally attacked for criticizing things, it makes me question those people's intentions.

If we could have a civil conversation about the future of mlpol without this shitflinging it would help us avoid making bad decisions. I could be pro split but I'm not convinced and the way pro-people have straight-up ignored my points (Won't it be just another /a/? for example.), makes me inhale through my teeth and question their trustworthiness. On that note, I don't like how you simultaneously emphasize the importance of doing this but also refer to it as a small tweak.

>>6817
>hard rhetoric
This is not a minor thing.
Changes are not welcome, and that is proportional to autism's levels. >>>/ub/4698 →

>>6817
>makes me inhale through my teeth and question their trustworthiness.
first of all, grow some awareness of your own shitflinging, I already admit to flinging shit, but then, I flung shit because I am frustrated by knowing the mods are basically unmovable in this position, so I never had anything to lose by being polite, since I already lost everything by being polite. Second, Understand that dialogue even with the presence of IDs carries the stigma of the ancestor, if you go to bat and start talking about how you think other people are acting like kikes, then get upset when called out for the kike behavior, you can't there after say "well that wasn't me who originally called you kikes" you rode in under the banner of one side of this brawl or the other, without taking any effort to distinguish yourself. Thirdly, what point are you making that you feel hasn't been addressed? I've gone out of my way to address all of them. I don't know what /a/ is if you aren't referring to 4chan/a/ but if I had a guess this site tried an /a/ at some point and it failed? If so that's exactly why I said multiple times in this and the other thread that doing this is pointless as a temporary test the waters thing. You need patience and tenacity. People involved need to want to believe it will work and make inroads to make it happen. Otherwise yes, you will get a barren board that closes in 6 months of inactivity.
>small tweak important decision
It's small for the people who don't care and important for the people who do care, much like a mcdonalds pony toy is worthless to 99% of people but would be important to me. though I'm not the person who used such language, because I don't believe that what I proposed would be small, just that the longer we wait, the harder it will be in the future.

Finally, breath through your nose, it actually enhances brain function.

>>6818
It's funny how you can post something like this but remain steadfastly ignorant to the great lack of /pol/ type threads on /mlp/. Yes, you are right, we don't like change, and for most of us, having the top 20-30 threads be mostly political is too much change. I genuinely think a GR15 free /pol/ is a great idea, and I've trained myself to the point where I only come here for /pol/ related things, but I definitely do not come here for horse content. It's practically barren of it.

>>6820
>having the top 20-30 threads be mostly political is too much change.
It is easy to fix. Post and post and post ponies.

>>6821
>play in front of mommy and daddy arguing about politics.
No thanks, I'll post them on /mlp/ instead.

>>6822
Suit yourself, but change begins at home.
You may begin copypasta greens and them plastering the board with ponies. Nopony will stop you.

>>6823
>dude just be a huge homo and transpose all /mlp/ threads to /mlpol/
Sorry, unlike you I'm not a huge faggot who gets his rocks off by other people having a bad time, I just want to play with my horsies without seething jews and whites crying over some shekels. I saw plenty of opportunities where /mlp/ was shit and /mlpol/ could do it way better and people would have arrived at our doorstep, but it's useless if only one faggot sees that future, the rest of you want to eternally screech and doompaul yourselves so yes, it will never work. I just feel bad that apparently my ideas where more popular than I thought since I know some horsefuckers seemed to agree with me.

>>6824
>but it's useless if only one faggot sees that future
What you want is a curated space for ponies only. Would you like to use /sp/ for it?

>>6825
Better said. /sp/ might be what you want, rarely politics are there.

>>6825
No retard, what I want is a movement to take as many users from /mlp/ as possible and get the most creative board out of the thumb of the NSA and us military, and in doing so, create a fun space where I can play with ponies and not be harassed by jews and then banned for calling them out.
>>6826
Although I did think for a while in response to this thread being made at all what it would be like if I compromised and offered the idea of making a >green focused anime/pony hybrid board in the vein of /a/mlp/ with /mlp/ being the dominant board culture, your statement here >>6818 underlines the reason why I eventually discarded the idea. Branding does matter a lot when trying to get users to use a site, and I don't feel very many horsefuckers would come to the site specifically because of >nohooves. In the end, it's too much change, even if I would really like it.

So in other words no, I'm not just thinking about what I would personally like most, and no I don't want to go post alone on /sp/. If you can't figure that out after this many posts I'll call you out for at least being a troll.

>>6827
>No retard, what I want is a movement to take as many users from /mlp/ as possible
>and no I don't want to go post alone on /sp/
It is understandably, but you should begin at least with a "safe" place for you, in this case /sp/ is not a bad choice. If it doesn't grow, you will be the sole responsible.

>>6828
hes back to being a huge jew and seething
Or horsefuckers could continue to post on /mlp/ and you can have nothing.
>>6829
>If it doesn't grow, you would be solely responsible
since this was the change I'll make it clear, No, I wont be solely responsible because I don't control the branding or really anything else about it. What kind of low effort jewery is this? It's like saying if I go try and turn a mcdonalds into a hotel I'll be the sole person at fault despite not being allowed to do anything to the decore or make the place not look like a fucking mcdonalds. What is your greater plan by suggesting shit like this? keep seething until you find something you can meme on to ruin the thread? keep getting (you)s from one faggot on /qa/? just following your jewish instincts? I assure you the stakes aren't so high you have to keep filling this thread with your low effort b8 but if you persist I'm just going to hide your ID.

>>6830
>No, I wont be solely responsible because I don't control the branding or really anything else about it.
That's the tools and means you got, you'll figure out.

>>6831
>no, I'm just going to keep spamming my low effort arguments and keep b8ing no matter how many times I get btfo, hueheu, u mad bro?
>>6817
The fact that you act like we're the ones making disingenuous two faced posts is insufferable.

>>6819
Fun fact, with this staff it doesnt matter how sound your position is, if you're impolite you're automatically "in the wrong"

>>6833
What I was saying is that I was polite, but I was still soundly rejected and my advice was basically mocked to my face. I chugged hard on phrasing it in that post though.

>>6784
Here, have some citations.
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>>6827
>create a fun space where I can play with ponies and not be harassed by jews and then banned for calling them out.
So you want to enable antisemitism and groups who hold such beliefs to flourish and be able to easily organize and attack others?

>>6838
Scram off nigger.

Im gonna take this opportunity to tell the grand story of:

How /a/ came to be

One day, Atlas asked me if he should make an /a/ board. I said (because I was the only staff on/responsive) "Yes".

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how /a/ came to be.
The background is, there were staff who wanted an /a/ board, and staff who were absolutrly vehemently opposed to it, ostensibky because the /a/ board would somehow cause a coup to turn mlpol into nu-4chan or some shit?
Personally, I didnt think the site needed an /a/, but I also thought the people crying about the site being fundamentally changed were off their rocker. So I told Atlas he should.

Funny, the site hasnt gotten taken over by anime. Funny how that all worked out.
Personally, Im opposed to a pony blue board, I simply dont see the point.
All this 'we'll get more /mulp/' posturing neglects a key fact: people go to 4chan (and by proxy, mlp) for (you)s, because theres more people there.
Its why even before Elon bought it, there is 100 to 1 the number of users on twitter vs. Gab or wtfe else.
Anons are creatures of habit, and 4chan is where they go to get their fix.
Anyone else notice how quickly pony porn became less interesting the longer it wasnt prohibited? I mean, its not like there arent what, 5 boorus dedicated to pony everything?
But politics, politics has always been a no-go for a significant majority of the fandom. For many, politics is WHY they seek the escapism of pastel ponies.
I dont oppose a blue pony board because I think it'll change the site at all, I oppose a blue pony board because I dont buy that mulp is gonna suddenly (or even gradually) start migrating if there is one.

As I said, the customer isnt going to buy the product no matter how much of a promotion you give them, they have already made the decision and now they're just seeing what they can grt you to agree to for the social exchange.

>>6841
this is why I also said it would take a long time and require people be on board. I don't, as you believe, think its pointless, but it definitely can be made pointless by defeatist attitude, ignorant strategy, and pure random chance that comes from risk taking I alluded to in the /mlp/a/ idea.

That said, I want to take a moment to define, not that I haven't, in clearer terms where /mlp/ is different than other boards. mlp is not like /a/, /tv/, /ck/ or the like. It's not a board that's centered around getting replies, but getting OC. Replies are a poormans currency on /mlp/. the real structure of the board is in content creators who give content for the (you)s of the /mlp/ rabble. in other words, unlike with a regular board where no matter how you scoop, you only get the same thing, if you where to turn content creators from the site to this one for any reason and have them come here, the masses would have less choice but to come here since that's where the content is. In the same way all of us put up with platforms like youtube, their individual investment is less important than the influence who creates OC.

There are of course ways to capture non-content creators, such as the people who hate eqg to an autistic degree, but the idea that /mlp/ is a typical board based around a symbol b8ing attention economy is simply not true. /mlp/ is a content creation board first and foremost, and a lot of the content and discussion there is simply time passing, not (you farming). the >green prompt rain dancing is as close as it gets to true farming, and the sheer lack of it on /mlpol/ is, I think, the biggest indication that it is /pol/ without gr15, rather than /mlp/ and /pol/ together as one

>>6844
Serious question:
What gives you confidence that making a pony blue board will result in content creators migrating?

>>6845
I don't have supreme confidence, but I have seen shit shows on /mlp/ by mods cause a massive amount of strife. at the time I came to the staff about creating such a board, the drama was hot, and I believe some of those people could have came here. Right now? It would be a way harder sell. which is also why I said from the beginning that you'd have to wait for people to get fed up. and since this place basically completely rejected the idea for so long, there's a danger that it wont work regardless. Situations like the scruffening, derpibooru, meta and divegrass threads being nuked, specific generals getting targeted. These are all opportunities, but once they are gone, they are gone. anonfilly has a home again, it will be a lot harder to get them to come back. My comments today where not an indication of some new chance or drama either. /mlp/ as of today is fairly stable. Only an acknowledgement that you've missed so many opportunities that occasionally I saw more pony OC being fostered in shitcords and being discussed there, even when those people still use and are from this website. Some how that couple of comments blew up into this. I'm significantly more used to yelling into the void and getting nothing back that I'm just as serious as your question when I say this thread is not what I expected to hear back.

I may at times be an asshole about being ignored, but it's not like I haven't passed up opportunities too, I'm jealous of the site's success and feel like it could have so easily taken some of 4chucks crown at times, but if we began tomorrow I couldn't tell you today an answer to that question that would be satisfactory. the things I do have clear ideas about I already gave; Give anons the ability to delet images in their own threads and be a mini janny. This isn't something I personally like, and for various reasons, if it's unpopular here as an idea, I would be all for not doing it, but I know it would get users specifically because of how autistic these faggots are. They make planning the con threads a huge fucking pain, and they also harrass the rewatch threads. Like I said, This isn't on the same level of advice as getting content creators, but it's an example of an opportunity. for the actual content creators, the thing that comes to mind is a place they would actually get (you)s in. but that's not a definitive plan to snag them at all, just a way to keep the ones we get instead of having them leave the second 4chan gets their act together.

No free lunch.

>>6845
oh, and for what it's worth. I dont know how popular anime is here, but it seems to be popular among the horsefuckers from here I talked to, so while I don't have any confidence a /mlp/a/ >green board would be a compelling way to steal /mlp/ users, it might be a way to colonize anime with /mlp/ board values, especially since /a/ does not allow /mlp/ board culture, and even fanfiction discussion is nuked from orbit. It isn't really my goal since it's a little too self indulgent of an idea but I can't say I wouldn't like it.

>>6846
>I may at times be an asshole about being ignored
Well... this. You won't get far with that obnoxious attitude.

>>6819
>first of all, grow some awareness of your own shitflinging
Yeah, let's dissect this.

> if you go to bat and start talking about how you think other people are acting like kikes,
Hmm, was that what I said? Let's have a look shall we.

>>6803
You said this:
<if you replaced horsefuckers with whites you would be called a jew and told to kill yourself immediately.
I said more in context but this is what you're referring to when you said I "started talking about how other people act like kikes":
>Point is, if we're going to start screaming, "You're the real kike," here wouldn't you who wants to change a tradition while defaming the people in it that doesn't want to, be the real kike, mah nigguha.
It ends on period but grammatically should end on a questionmark. It's a rehtorical question to make a point about what you are doing. I didn't say you were a kike but even if I had it would been a response to you insinuating that I use jewish rethoric. I think the comparision falls flat there for you.

But again, I'm not offended about this part, which I also wrote in that post. I just thought it was weird that while there's a thread on /qa/ talking about the paranoia this thread received, you attack me for giving you genuine criticism. Go back over my posts. They are not personal whatsoever before you start and barely afterward either.

I kinda hate how some who are pro split has brunt bridges with me. As I said, I'm not against entertaining this idea but such a thing has to be done in a civilized manner. When I ask for substance and you attack me, it makes me think you have none.

> I don't know what /a/ is if you aren't referring to 4chan/a/ but if I had a guess this site tried an /a/ at some point and it failed? If so that's exactly why I said multiple times in this and the other thread that doing this is pointless as a temporary test the waters thing. You need patience and tenacity. People involved need to want to believe it will work and make inroads to make it happen. Otherwise yes, you will get a barren board that closes in 6 months of inactivity.
We have an /a/. Look at the board bar at the top and then the furthest board to the left. It's been there for years. Your making my point as well. You need content for it aka, "You need patiance and tenacity. People involved need to want to believe it will work and make inroad to make it happen." So content is king and is why mlpol is not as active on pony as /mlp/ create content and there will be people.

Why Anonfilly went back to 4chan had nothing to with politics, I believe. Most of the anonfillies went to discord before they went to us anyway. People complained in our thread that most people spent their time on discord instead of being on the board. When the thread on /mlp/ opened again, those on discord probably migrated there and those here probably left as well. Was this because polacks had harassed them with politics? No. I Lurked that thread from the beginning of it being here till now. Very few political discussions happened on it and most of that was just meming.

So why did the fillies go back to /mlp/ if the mods there are abusive and the polacks here don't bother them? Simple, the same reason you visit /mlp/ because that's where people are. There are more polacks on 4/pol/ still than there are polacks here, hundred precent. Creative people go were they get most attention and so that's where the greens are.

Also, I guess I should address that thinking of this as a brawl is your problem. I'm not at all closed to the idea that we could have a separate board for pony but I'd like to weigh the pros and cons for such a thing. It's a slippery slope to blame me for what other posters have posted that have similar views as me but I suppose I can relate to such a thing.

Again, I don't think your idea has no merits but I don't think it's going to result in what you imagine. I guess it's too late to start over but I genuinely think it would be more beneficial for us both if we could discuss this. Maybe you have some argument that I haven't considered that will make me be pro this split.

>>6856
>We have an /a/.
The stress should be on "have".

>>6856
>People complained in our thread that most people spent their time on discord instead of being on the board.
>board
Should be thread.

>>6841
The only problem with /a/ is that nobody uses it, tbh. If there were even two regularly-posted threads it would be on par with the other boards. It still gets more traffick than /cyb/.
I was personally of the camp that some of the other April 2017 boards could come back, but since our /sp/ stands for shitposting, /spa/ is kind of off the table.

>>6859
>no one uses it
Testament to how much actual demand there was, versus individual perception

>>6856
>It ends on period but grammatically should end on a questionmark. It's a rehtorical question to make a point about what you are doing
Right, I dont know why I expected someone so stupid and unself aware to even begin to acknowledge that the criticism instantly resulted in accusations of me being a divide and conquer kike. So yes, I did think pretty carefuly about what I said, I gave you exactly what you fucking deserved. Is that clear enough for you? or do you have another fantasy to concoct where you're the innocent victim here?

>>6863
Wow. A bit uppity today.
As an anon you may be called a kike at any time if you come with kiked ideas. You positively know this, so playing the offended party won't fly.
You may not be a normie, and yet you behave like one many times.

I'm pretty sure all or most of my points of concern have already been stated by other posters, but I'll contribute my thoughts anyways

I am not a fan of adding a new pony-only board at all.

The entire point of /mlpol/ is that it is a merged board. Two different topics come together in synchronicity. Segregating pony and politics is a why-bother that is contrary to the entire idea.

The argument I keep hearing for the segregation is that politics is a downer and black pilled. Have you even been on /mlp/? That board makes /mlpol/ look like radical utopians by comparison. At least a few years ago, you couldn't go anywhere without hearing "oh my God everything good is gone!" It is/was insufferable and was far worse than /mlpol/, at least at the time.

The reason most /mlp/ users don't come here isn't because of politics, it's because of the Social Media Effect. Chan sites, like all social media of any kind, are naturally occurring monopolies, because people want to go where other people already are. Having a board with no politics won't help that. If anything, it means less total activity.

But with all of that said, it isn't necessarily much harm to add an experimental board. I would want it to be more than just "/mlp/ but not owned by a Jap." Maybe make it /safe/ with a ban on doom-posting, or have some kind of theme to it like forced optimism. Maybe call it AFFWF (Aff woof?) for "A Future for White Foals" or something. You can at least have fun with the idea

>>6866
These seem like mostly fair points. I still think we could benefit to experiment a bit with boards, although my opnion on the matter isn't that strong.

So what is the progress on developing such board so far? Are we even going to get it?

>>6873
/sp/ has been ready for years. Just saying.

>>6873
From what I understand, it doesn't actually take that long to make a board. It's only a matter of approval.

>>6874
I have not been there much, but the board is just called “Football”. What does that have to do with anything? Also, how would we make it attractive to the members of /mlpol/ and 4/mlp/?
>>6875
So the procedure for creating a new board already adds the necessary components to the database?

>>6876
/sp/ is a random board, named after sportschan after a series of back and fourth raids while John Elway memes were all the rage.

>>6873
The decision lies ultimately with staff. It used to be that a specific staff member would take ownership/responibility of whatever board. /vx/ for example, is Lotus' purview, while John Elway - who is Football forevermore, appearing in the guise of a man, but inseparable from either the one True Football or the Denver Broncos, who are themselves Football but on a multitudinal level - has sole and exclusive dominion over Fottball, for he is the Alpha and Omega of Football, supplemented by the storage rooms in space assisting in the housing of all that Football.
Sorry, havent broncoposted in a while.
Returning to the topic, a specific staff member would technically need to do likewise with this new board. Having said, that precious requirement is a bit arbitrary IMO and fosters a 'thats not my board so IDGAF' mentality in some (thats just a general caveat, not aomething directed at anyone in general/particular).
Now, when I say about the decision, I mean it literally. It will likely take more than a handful of anons clamoring to make a sufficiently compelling case, and I say that having personally made dozens of compelling cases.
Not a criticism, but with a few very specific examples, staff does not operate from a very 'quick-to-action' sort of strategy.
Tl;dr. Get comfy, and prepare to politely make your case for a drawn out period of time. Dont insult staff either, they get really mad and oppose you on principal when you do that (yes, even if they have been insulting you extensively prior, and your insults are reactionary/complementary).
>>6875
Technically speaking, unless the code has been ammended, any staff member could make a new board at any time. Literally, a few clicks and a few lines of text. While cumbersome in other ways, there are a goodly number of ways that Pupper's code is quite efficient.
The problem is that any staff member who MIGHT make such a thread in advance of a staff consensus woumd immediately be decided to have 'gone rogue' or any number of other character assassinations.
If you're not getting how UNwelcome it is to be on staff AND decisive, I dont know what to tell you

as someone who's been here since the beginning I don't see a reason to *not* have a blue board with the sole exception that someone trying to shill and such should still be flooded with pony poon to drive them off
the jew fears pone puss

>>6880
Tbh, I think most people who'd post to the blue pony board wouldn't be deterred by pony porn, only annoyed.
Horse porn only deters redditors on the /pol/ side.