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Archived thread


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Due to recent complaints and excessive vitriol being flung from both sides, site staff has determined that the “Glimmergate” issue needs to be put to rest. This issue is completely childish and idiotic, and lowers the level of discourse for the site overall. This is the kind of thing we left 4chan to get away from, frankly.

While site staff had hoped that you would all be able to sort it out amongst yourselves like reasonable adults, we’ve had calls from both sides to intervene, so here we are intervening. The new rules concerning Glimmergate will be as follows:

>any threads or off topic posts that are obvious bait or generally shitposty Starlight Glimmer threads will be immediately deleted and the user will be warned for the first offense. The next offense will result in a 3 day ban. This is entirely at staff discretion, and you all know exactly the type of threads I’m talking about.


>any threads or off topic posts complaining about “glimposting”, “glimmerniggers”, etc. will be treated the same. Any thread derailment with these topics will be dealt with the same way. Again, we feel confident you all know what we’re talking about and choose to believe that you can exercise good judgement.


This board is for the discussion of Global Politics and My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic. We are not going to ban all discussion or images of a single character simply because that character is disliked or controversial. However, we will not tolerate spam, shitposting, thread derailment or deliberate antagonism of specific users related to this character. Needless to say, doxxing or attempts to harass any user of this system IRL will not be tolerated either.

We have built a fine community over the past few months, in complete defiance of both the site we came from as well as the typical odds for an off-4chan imageboard to survive. We'd prefer we not ruin it over something this stupid.

Replies will be open for a limited period of time to allow people to express parting thoughts, then will be closed.
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So… When someone will call you butthurt or anally mad? Because I'm sure someone will call you that. Also, are you sure you're not breaking ANY rules, namely rule 3? Because that can be easily interpreted as such. Also, there doesn't seem to be any rules about no shitposting minus the one you just made up.
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>>87870
>Also, are you sure you're not breaking ANY rules
Of course! We make the rules
>Because that can be easily interpreted as such
Wrongly, sure
>there doesn't seem to be any rules about no shitposting minus the one you just made up
So you mean there's a rule now?

But sarcasm aside, this is a response to drama, and there's no need to get salty over implications that do not exist. There is no ban on a pony. Only on intentional bait.
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>>87870
>Rule 3
>Ponies allowed, NO EXCEPTIONS.
it says above that the pony herself isn't being banned, just the use of her as a triggering device.
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>>87872
>just the use of her as a triggering device
So triggering is forbidden now? WOW! Nice job, /mlpol/! Or should I say /leftymlpol/?
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>>87873
Baiting.
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>>87874
Avoding answers now? Or you have nothing to say? But yes, that was an example of what some anons would say about this.

>>87871
This raises another question: policy has no bait rules minus X BTFO. And even then, this applies to non-ponies. There's nothing like that for ponies. Also, remember the slippery slope. You may be setting a dangerous precedent with this. What's to say more "rules" like that won't come after this?
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>>87875
Policy page is outdated. There is not, never will be or has been a rule against a pony.
>dangerous precent
There's a reason we are reluctant to make rules like this. It's because of the reasons you mention. But anons have pressured action to be taken and this issue has lasted for weeks without resolution. It's a terrible situation with no perfect solution.
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>>87876
>Policy page is outdated
When is it going to be updated then, if it's outdated?
Also, just read through the thread in question. Nothing bad happened. I don't see ANYTHING that would warant a closed thread. Also are you it's anons and not one butthurt anon? IP hopping is a thing that can happen.
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>>87877
>When is it going to be updated
There's a procedure to go through for formal rule changes that is very complicated. Just be aware that common sense things like spamming, trolling by outsiders, and intentional thread derailment may be bannable.
>Nothing bad yet happened in the locked thread
That is correct. The thread was locked because of what was going to happen in 10 hours after a certain person shows up, which was what the thread was intended to do. The thread was locked before it became a shit-fest and not after
>Sure it's multiple butthurt anons
Yes, it's definitely several
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>>87878
>Yes, it's definitely several
OK, let's assume it really is several anons.
>The thread was locked because of what was going to happen in 10 hours after a certain person shows up, which was what the thread was intended to do. The thread was locked before it became a shit-fest and not after
Well, congratulations! Because of that some anons, like me aren't able to see what was the reason for such a rule, because they never ever saw that "certain person" getting angry about some pony. You dun fucked up m8. Maybe shitfests aren't so bad after all?
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>>87879
Go to /qa/ and /sp/ to learn, and be grateful the shitfest is not so extensive. But if you don't understand the reason for the rule, then it wouldn't apply to you, since this is concerned with specific intentional baiting.
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>>87879
I'm not so hot about the staff getting involved either but in all honesty drama sucks away the life-force of the community. I'd rather anons fun post or discus politics. Sorta sad the faggots baiting nigel and nigel himself needed to splurge out and get us into this but I'll just say something had to be done to de-escalte this. I'd rather it not have to be the staff but when I have tried to tell them to stop neither side really did so at this point I think its justified, maybe not perma but at least till both sides stop being fucking idiots.
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>>87880
Just checked. Congrats! You just encountered a lulzcow prime for milking! Too bad you can't milk him anymore, because that would be amusing to see how far this crazy man can go.
>>87881
>life-force
What life-force? This site is barely alive as it is. Unless a miracle happens and we get an activity surge.
(just in case anybody was wondering, this ip has made exactly zero posts outside of this thread)
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>>87883
>This site is barely alive as it is.
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>>87886
Yeah, it is.
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>>87887
It only hurts because its true. I sometimes feel like the dream is dead. That said do I want drama killing any reason for the few of us that still come here?
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>>87888
I don't see anything bad in drama tbh. I see it as something that can be/is really amusing.
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>>87889
Never been a fan of it myself. I avoid it whenever possible. That said I know some people love it and will seek it out. Normally I can avoid it because the communities I'm part of are large enough that if it pops up somewhere I can wait it out somewhere else. This one its just too small to do that though. And the only other option is to quick for a bit and come back when it all blows over. Sadly I don't think I'll be able to do that.
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>>87891
>to quick for a bit
quit for a bit*
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>>87886
>>87888
Is this the great Moddy Pie? Well, have no fret. The great is not great if they believe are the worst. The same goes for activity and economics. All you need is confidence, which will outlast & impact more than any number. And, there will be your chances, your opporuntities. You only have to pursue (with confidence.) I'm looking forward to the Winterball. The drawfags need space.
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>>87886
Site traffic was up significantly this week. Literally all anyone needs to do to keep this place alive is just keep posting and having meaningful discussions. If you get a chance spread the word about the board to people who seem interested. Nothing particularly magical or otherworldly about it, just participate and the board stays alive.

Also, ignore the Rusky, he's just being a debbie downer.
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>>87896
>debbie downer
Also, ignore this burger, he just doesn't want to discuss this matter.
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>>87897
discuss what? this is literally just a one-time edict made by staff restricting a particular type of cancerous back-and-forth posting that was having a destructive impact on the site as a whole.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but as I remember it the whole problem with 4chan was lack of proper board moderation. Mods who more or less enforce rules as written but don't particularly care about the overall quality of the discussion on the site. Blacked threads are not against the global rules and the kike mods don't care so they stay up. ThrackerzodH BTFO threads are not against the global rules and the kike mods don't care so they stay up. Meanwhile quality posts get deleted if they happen to have a pony image.

The staff here cares enough to actually intervene when necessary, it's perplexing that you have a problem with this.
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>>87899
Wasn't the whole problem with 4chan that it had absolutely horrible mods that simply don't belong here, because they're not imageboard users and just some reddit/tumblr trash that somehow gained mod privileges?
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>>87896
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>>87897
The truth is that this is happening for a bigger reason. Anons wouldn't be trolling poor niggle if they didn't know it was him. Sure his posting style is easier to recognized in comparison to others but none of us knew about him on /mlp/ or /pol/. Its because of the volume of posts that allows for animosity. The ruskie is right we're hanging on and not by much. Those of us who make OC get burned out because of how little we have others participate and those of us who participate A LOT trying to get others to as well get burned out. Those of us who post about politics have to do it because no one else will. We know who most of these anons are which is the worse part. Vril, >>87894, and even I can be called out on posting patterns because of our low traffic.

This isn't a problem with niggel, on 4chan he couldn't be a problem because he'd be part of the autistic masses. Neither would he have been a problem here to begin with. The truth is were all bored or burned out and those who are bored want to poke at anons and see something happen here for once. I'm burned out so I just want to see everyone get along and hope someone will take a bit of the load off of what I have to do help keep this place and the dream from dying. A lot of the anons who made OC here have left because of it, the 40k edits anon and I sometimes think that maybe I should just leave. I don't know though thats what I just think sometimes tbqh. I won't leave you all hanging on some of the bigger projects I have coming up but at some point I'd like it if it didn't feel as if I was one of the only 3-6 anons trying to keep this place above water. I get the temptation to poke a lolcow when you see one so we can see what happens especially when very little else is happening and you get a lot more (you)s and traffic in general but it won't solve the problem in the end.

Sorry for the rant especially since it feels so downish.
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>>87902
I'm still here -40k anon is neat name tbh- but you are right. I'm burnt out and have taken a break from shopping, art and stories, although I post time to time on each subject. I've also been fishing and talking to other Anons trying to bring more shoppers, music makers, video makers and artist here, still as far as I know they only lurk.
With that said, the story arch will be continuing in about 2 weeks or so, shops are being made but I've yet to post them. Art is on hold until I can work out my work schedule, since that takes a bit more time then a simple shop shit post
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>>87883
>This site is barely alive as it is.
Again this assertion? If you're trying to judge Mlpol.net by the metrics of 4chan or other sites, you're putting the cart before the hoers. This site is fighting the 'next war', nor the last one. Learn about it.
While we're on the subject of attitude adjustment, let's address some of the other elephants in the room. 4chan can boast high post numbers and UIDsm sure, but how many of them are degenerate fuckwads? I don't mean degenerate cuz of their interest in porn (literal or 'softcore'), I'm talking about NEETs and social degenerates; individuals who are not developing, not contributing, not growing in any way. Mlpol is filled (nearly entirely) with anons who have jobs, lives, careers, or are developing such. Small businesses, viable public resources, post-graduate educations, etc. take time, without factoring the time that anons devote to OC, political discussion, fun-posting, etc. * Mlpol-tan mentioned in Tea that she's a teacher; a community educator, and yet she takes the time to draw a webcomic which has become the unofficial (and only because there hasn't been an 'official' statement or vote) mascot of the board. Similar statements can be made for many of the mods, as well as anons, with still more who have been able to keep their shit on the down-low. I'll reiterate: this isn't 4chan - and thank Elway for that - and trying to judge Mlpol like a new stock option is going about it in entirely the wrong way. It can and will take time to build the foundation, let alone to raise the roof. To those who want to stand back and pout because its not a mansion yet, I have two words: get fucked.
Sorry if this is considered derailing.
* - Mods, delete this sentence if you feel its unnecessary.
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>>87910
You hit it spot on imo. I'm in it for the long haul but as I stated, I'm burnt out and do see the need for new artist/shopping blood. I'm happy to see more Anons have started tho, giving me and others a small break
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>>87911
I promise to produce a lot of OC for mlpol next month, these months have been harsh for me to really contribute to the site, I just don't have any idea of what to produce.
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Make a (hidden?) Glimmer board /gg/, throw all threads which are GG bait into it. Delete all non-Glimmer threads in /gg/. Since this does not want to die turn it into a amusing asset then let it burn where others don't care. Alternatively make a /trash/ since some don't see /sp/ as /trash/.

In this way the energy can be expressed in its containment area :P
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>>87910
I'm not judging by metrics of 4chan that's for sure.
>>87916
Why not just move it to /sp/, if you consider moving it?
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>>87919
>Why not just move it to /sp/, if you consider moving it?
This makes sense.
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>>87919
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Because /sp/ will complain. The admins want to end the complaints. A board specifically for it, can't generate complaints and is funny and dissipates the confrontation energy.
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>>87922
>A board specifically for it
I've been against making new boards since the start. /vx/ should have stayed here, /sp/ should have stayed here, and /ub/ should have never been made. They drain and divide what happens here. Only /vx/ has been popular mostly because it functions as /tg/ and /qst/. I don't want anymore boards draining the main part of the community.
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>>87922
Complaints will not end anyway. So better suck it up and just do it. Either it's here or it's there. Nowhere is an option too, but good luck to mods in that case.
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>>87899
what he said

>>87897
fuck off you random fake news ruskie.
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>>87889
>I don't see anything bad in drama tbh
Sonichu.
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it was getting annoying tbh, and we have technically 2 random boards (although they're technically about internets and football respectively) so there's no need for it on /mlpol/ in the first place
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>>87924
Okay ShareBlue, I've seen your posting style before, remember me? You know what this means? It's time to leave, go get your new VPN's, assume your new online identities, and move on.

>>87922
"Agreeing with the communist when he has an excellent idea is not a crime, no. However, agreeing with his master is."
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>>87922
Throw it all into the
>>>/Trash/
And forget it
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>>87926
>fake news
CNN(or are you MSM?), stop blaming Russia for everything. You're the fake news, CNN/MSM.
>>87935
>implying I'm ShareBlue
>implying that I'm a shill
>>87931
Sonichu what? Sonichu wasn't bad, Sonichu was something special.
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Yup, it's an SB, seen this one's posting style about 10 times in the past month.
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>>87938
Thank you for your input. You don't get the money. That's my last (you) 4u, small guy.
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>>87937
>Sonichu was something special.
You mean *is* something special.
Trolling is ok, it can even be beneficial to it's victims in certain cases; The problem is, when you manipulate someone over the years until you completely break their mind whitout they even deserving it, how is that any better than what the people we actively fight against do?
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From Russia with salt. The space is a different ID.
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>>87919
Then what metrics ARe you judging it by?
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>>87869
Does this mean that posts can be reported for being in violation of this GlimMemorandum (tm)?
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>>87944
Yes, and please make use of the Report feature. Do not assume the mods know everything, or that they don't desire second opinions on interpreting posts.
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I don't think there is a lot more I can say towards this situation in regards to Glimmergate in general or the Individual that was the cause for this ruckus.

What I will say though is this: This entire predicament would be a nonissue if the administration had taken their own words from July to heart and administered punishment for Glimmergate related posting since August. This did deliberatly not happen.

Instead, the Situation was largely ignored in favour of the perpetrator, allowing him to snowball more masses of bystanders into his maelstreom of idiocy, to the detriment of the site and the rest of the community, to a point where progressively more users not only think of the adminsitration as incompetent but also find certain sections of the site now overall repellent to use.

What we ended up here now is a short fuse reaction from our dear head admin about a problem that should have been dealt with months ago with a rule that will effectively enforce a tumblresque user specific trigger warning with the purpose to rescue 1 person from his own credibility, which he clearly lacks not just in this place alone. A rule that has the potential to cripple free discourse in the future.

It is sufficient to say that I do not agree with this course of action or the circumstances it is executed it. It reeks of a failure to understand the root cause of the problem and to deal with it appropriately. Perhaps this realisation would have reached our admin team would they not spend most of their nights intensely roleplaying on /vx/. If you want to get an impression on that consider a look at /qa/ and check how many of the Feedback threads were actually properly adressed or ended up improving the site beyond some ocassional long winded arguments that led nowhere. It was not many, I can tell you that much.

Should the opportunity arise, I will support an alternative candidate to take seat as Head Admin mid term. Someone who has the courage and understanding to guide this community more proficiently, proactively fighting inside threats and able to stimulate growth instead of enabling rot.
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>>87951
Invalid. The only staff who participates in /vx/ is that board's mod.
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>>87951
oh please, if they cracked down on it outright both sides would never stop whining about how they were power tripping, they wanted to ignore it as much as many users did but it never went away so now they're dealing with it
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>>87951
It just occurred to me that the ideology of this situation is a wheel that rotates also.

>Should the opportunity arise, I will support an alternative candidate to take seat as Head Admin mid term. Someone who has the courage and understanding to guide this community more proficiently, proactively fighting inside threats and able to stimulate growth instead of enabling rot.


We just went from communism/democracy (The community runs /mlpol/) to calls for Authoritarianism! It will be interesting to see the wheel turn in this microcosm. I guess no one escapes the wheel.
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>>87951
The problem here could just lie in a concentration of power in staff. A division of powers could help, but honestly we have no idea of what the power structure of /mlpol/ is. Many of the staff have left one or another from what I have seen, even Lotus having left himself but came back. During then, I don't think Lotus had much of a position of power as he does now. Which has to be called to question too is how Atlas recruits staff (whether or not he prefers close relations instead of perhaps merit or the other), and if that staff is capable. It may not just be a simple change of power that will solve the problem. An evaluation could help ease fears. But, let's not get ahead of ourselves. The question of how many and how concerned are members of this community are. Then, can the move of proper polling can be made.
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Some anons came into this thread unaware of the situation. I will say that.
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>>87960
I was mostly unaware as well. Mind you I was willfully ignorant, but that was up until now I didn't care.
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>>87961
I don't blame you. If we're going to have any actions suggested, we ought to know what we are dealing with. Not that we have much power anyways.
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>>87958
>Starts as right authoritarian
shills are banned & defenses are strong
>Sways to right libertarianism
/int*/ invades causing fears of rule cucking while before and after staff were okay the community handling decisions. Mods were responsive.
>Shifts to left
Mods are less responsive, staff moves to more secrecy, and rot starts to set. Activity becomes an issue.
>Shift to authoritarian left
Glimmergate explodes the first time with both sides calling for heavy action, but the segment is at the democratic left, so no harsh actions are made. The situation arises again, and now heavy restrictions are put into place.
We are not yet at the authoritarian right again.
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>>87960
I never knew it was a problem. And I am looking forward to the potentiality of Glimmer nuking a thread again like last time. Don't tempt me.

>>87933
Agreed.

>>87923
Agreed. We made too many boards. We should have /mlpol/ and /trash/. All GG crap is sent to trash where the trash posters can go trash post. It is too late now, because people are invested in those other boards.

Still the GG stuff is not going away, so it needs a home where it does no harm except to itself. This lets its energy get expressed in a form no one cares about. When it leaves containment it "has to go back over the wall"

The other problem here is obviously some in our community want to play in GG stuff. And others want to have control over them by restricting them. The solution again is obvious put a wall between both sides by giving GG stuff a home /trash/ or /gg/. Potentially bring little used boards back into /mlpol/ there is no reason why /ub/ posts can't be in /mlpol/.

We made a mistake by not having an overtly obvious official /trash/ board, make it hidden if needed. It negates the claims of oppression but allows those expecting a higher quality to simply never go there.
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>>87963
Activity is also an issue that comes to play. Like stagnant birth rates, mlpol suffers stagnant activity. The next savior will offer ways to expand activity, whether it be networking or raid activity which the latter will shift the sight into a chaotic good. Eventually, the savior will get self-conscious then consolidate power in a way others can't. If Lotus has a part in this, then by trying to stall the wheel, he has advanced the wheel faster.
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I'll just drop this here, link broken just in case.

h ttps://8ch.net/cow/res/291361.html

I seriously doubt that this is the only such thread in existence on the webz
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>>87873
Just the use of her as a triggering device. Like OP said. You're not good at this whole "Strawmanning" thing, you should ask an expert for advice.
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>>87966
>A post about shitposters is posted before a post about lesbians
Odd.

>goobergrape

Stopped reading there.

What the fuck is this? What does gamergate, a reaction to the abundance of corrpution and SJWery in gaming media and a call for its end(And the biggest sign that the jewish hold on the world is becoming so obvious it can't be ignored), have to do with ponies? Why is Gamergate the boogeyman for SJWs?
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>>87968
Its pointless to even begin to try and explain what's going on in posted thread/board, the purpose of it was simply to indicate that there may be more interests at work here than Mlpol. Mods and admin have done a great job, even if they have seemed disagreeable or soft-handed with their decisions from time to time, and desu calls for replacement are laughable outside the staff member themselves requesting a replacement. Even in that event, lets not have another Invisibro incident, especially since I have no doubt there are several boards that are just jolly at the idea of sowing discord among anons and staff, for lulz in the least and malice in the more extreme.
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Is it time for fun yet?
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>>87971
No.
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>>87972
OK, boss.
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First, I would like to address a statement about me told by one of our moderators that was either a lie or misinterpreted. In an exchange on Saturday in a Discord server that I have no access to, that mod told a user that I had been keeping a poster as a “pet project.” That is to say, that I had been specifically protecting an individual poster by making mods stand down on requests to ban the person. This is false. That mod never asked for him to be banned, or tried to ban him on his own, before that conversation. No other mod did either. In fact, none had even brought the subject up. The only person to bring up the issue was me, in a private conversation with that mod, on Friday when I showed him a user report. His response was “that thread is still going WTF,” in reference to a thread on /qa/. When that mod did tell me that users were asking about the situation, I told him to relate that we would look into the issue and consider what needed to be done, but that at the moment, I was busy. Which I was.

There were two mods who found the situation entertaining at first, but have in discussion since agreed to what was said in the OP. Like most of the userbase, most of the mod team has been unaware of the drama perpetrated by a small group of users on the /sp/ and /qa/ boards in a small number of threads over the past few weeks. Myself and other mods have hopped that the users would be able to settle the situation and their differences on their own. We intervene now only because clearly, they cannot. No fewer than 4 mods and admins have been consulted about the present situation, and the post you see in the OP, while posted by me, was mostly written by a different mod.

Staff are not slaves. We are a diverse team of Americans, a Canadian, and Europeans, coming from Anchorage to Texas to Sweden, who volunteer to care for a community we love. But please be mindful that we do this for free. We have real lives that need addressing – we go to university, have jobs, have family, go to doctors appointments. Many staff have personal affairs that occupy much of their time that are none of my business and frankly of no business of the users. We cannot spend all of our time tending to the triggers of individual users. Atlas himself is a man who works a full time job, often with extra shifts, who has to deal with human issues like moving, and who is trying to expand a business creating websites. He has delegated most of his responsibilities to two admins as well as a sysop. Staff, exactly like the user base, have suffered from a decay in engagement, which at least in my case I know is caused by the increase in responsibilities I have from the semester starting again, although I cannot speak to everyone. Staff size has remained the same since the beginning of August. Hiring duty has been delegated to the Admins, and we have chosen not to keep the staff size stable since new hires and more people increases the chance for infighting, the mass waves of spam are over and the current size is sufficient to handle issues. Since internal fighting has been non-existent for months, spam is dealt with swiftly, and since we are still able to produce new changes to code, I would say the staff has been largely effective.

The mod team is not your personal trigger response team. We are not here to respond to ban every person on the internet that you dislike personally or that you get in fights with. We are here to keep out obvious trolls, spam, and illegal content. We have had several trolls, spammers, and even child porn posted on the board in the past few weeks, and if you did not notice, it is because the mod team is active and doing its job. If posts on /qa/ are not responded to quickly, it’s because either the OP did not ask a question directed at Staff, there is no answer the staff can give, or because it requires the expertise of a Dev, who tend to be shyer in posting on the board.

Several posters in this thread do not even know what this thread is about. They are not aware of any drama or situation, and they do not understand why this thread needed to be made. That is because the drama is and has been almost perfectly contained on the /sp/ and /qa/ boards. It has not been an issue on the main board, and only briefly showed up because a poster intentionally baited to drag the drama onto the main board to derail a thread. There is no need to talk about containment boards, since the issue has been contained to other boards.

Do not expect that a change in staff or administration will produce a staff more generally suited to your fancies than the one that exists now. 4chan has been undergoing constant staff changes for years now, and there is no measurable increase in the quality of moderation.
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No.87977
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>>87969
I don't trust those people. Anyone who thinks Nazis are "Just right-wing SJWs" isn't trustworthy, and any community that so quickly devolves into calling itself leddit to seem sufficiently 4chan is one full of fakes.

Pic unrelated. But it is a nice picture, isn't it? We are justice here. We are /mlpol/, all the horse pussy of /mlp/ and the REAL uncensored political discussion of /pol/. With great mods and a great goal, we WILL change this world.
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No.87979
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>>87975
>no solutions required, decisions are already made.
Okay. So we can lock this thread then?
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No.87981
>>87979
No. We need more salty cucks trying to insult the mods and violate the spirit of the no-glimbait rules.
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No.87982
87983
>>87975
IDK man afther reading your post I can point out you make it seem like the solution is actually getting a janitor to tackle down basic tasks so the moderation doesn't have to worry.
I say we can fix all of this stuff creating a trash board that is not listed on overboard, yet not hidden, plus implementing a janitor that had enough free time to take a look at the board multiple times a day.

Im a volunteer for this duty, I see it as a solution for the basic troubles of the moderation not having time or just not being able to attend to the user's every request.
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No.87983
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>>87982
That just raises more questions.

Who gets to be a "Janitor"?
What does a "Janitor" do?
Is he like a Moderator, but one that can only delete posts?
What requirements are there for being one of these "Janitors"?
Would it be more appropriate to call one of those an "Inquisitor"?
Why should one person get to decide what is and is not allowed to be said on this site?
Why should someone with the most easily-abusable power possible be held to a lower standard and given a lower entry barrier than someone with multiple abusable powers and multiple ways to use each one?
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No.87985
>>87983
This. If such a position were requisite or necessary, I would imagine mods would be the one asking for volunteers/applicants.
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No.87990
>>87983
Even on 4cuck, did they use to have a system wherein all janitors needed a go-to delete a thread. It would basically work like a formal reporting system except the reporter got to act on his request. I suspect that /mlpol/ has a similar system.
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No.87992
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>shitposting not allowed
That's not like what everyone wants for this side? Why the drama?
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No.87993
>>87992
>Side
*Site
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No.87994
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>>87992
It's idiots being idiots needing daddy to come and hold their hand.

Enough of this bullshit. Tell the nigger that started this stupid mess to fucking stop. No new shit or new janitors. If he continues just ban the bitch. I don't know how this got so out of hand
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No.87998
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>>87994
We can't just counter shitpost that fuck?
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No.87999
>>87995
The ability to give itself cancer, hopefully.
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No.88001
>>87998
Apparently not. I barely know what's going on. All I know is that it reaks of autism and retardation.
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No.88003
>>88000
That gives me an idea when I get off work.
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No.88004
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>>88000
Nice dubs and trips. And LOL at the topic. Thanks Hitler and Epona!
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No.88005
>>88002
Only if they're a part of the CIA.
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No.88007
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Remember to only post authorized content or you'll get a warning like me, just now. Am I banned yet?? This is a community service announcement. Don't be bad like me.
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>>88007
This is illegal you know
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No.88010
>>88009
How so?


You should have locked the thread, Lotus. If you didn't want discussion and banter on a chan, you should have locked it.
(By Your Command)
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No.88191
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Per user request, the thread has been reopened for discussion. The thread is set to sage.

Vril Anon should be advised that he has already received his warning for intentional trolling.
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No.88193
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>>88191
thx for autosaging, at least it's open.Would be better if there was no autosage. Anyway, time for me to finally make a post.

>>87942
>implying I'm salty
Asking legit questions and being concerned and expessing your opinions on the matter is considered "salty"?
>>87943
By metrics of this site. It doesn't seem to be as active as it was at the start. 4chan also has a few really slow boards, the ones that actually manage to be even slower than this site.
>>87967
>implying I'm strawmanning
Nigger, how the hell did you reach THAT conclusion? Everything I wrote is 100% legit. I really am concerned about this, because of implications it might have on the future.
>>87972
>no fun allowed
What a spoilsport, really. But it's understandable, a little at least. After all, the whole situation is kinda tough.
>>87975
Do you want me to go for a breakdown of this post? This raised a few more questions and concerns I would like to see answered or addresed. And, hey! You got great timestamp dubs(00:22:44)!
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No.88209
Checking if autosage is off.
Anonymous
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No.88210
Nope, it's not off yet.
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No.88499
Is it off yet?
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No.88501
I want to see the GET.
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No.88503
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why does this thread suddenly bump again? i thought we were finished with this.
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No.88514
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>>88193
Yep
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No.88515
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>>87883
Funny how so many of these posts come from IPs we rarely hear from. It's almost as if only a handful of sad, salty, pathetic shitposters are the ones dissatisfied with the ban on Glimposting, and they're using proxies to seem more numerous and important than they actually are. Meanwhile, the honest people are just glad this shit's finally over and we can all get back to quality MLP and Politics discussion.
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No.88517
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>>88515
Have you thought that maybe, just maybe, there are people using routers? And these same people(or that same man, in this case) just has questions and concerns over some things? Or this counts as shilling or being salty as some other anons thought?
>>88514
Thanks for answering! Now I know that you're just shitposting.
>>88503
Because this show isn't over just yet.
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No.88550
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Ugh, this thread should just be left to die.

My two cents: if there's any more Glimmer drama put an end to it immediately and redirect it to a dedicated Glimmer board. That way it'll be contained and it would be an ideal place to post Glimmer-related art. Pictures of Starlight Glimmer being mauled by wild animals when?
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>>88550
Or you can move to it to the designated shitposting board. That one exists.
>Pictures of Starlight Glimmer being maules by wild animals when?
When you have money to comission a drawfag. Or when some drawfags see your idea and like it enough to do it for free.
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No.88569
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What's going on in this thread?
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>>88569
Thoughts on the decision made by admin about Glimmmer drama that happened because of a certain autist, who now can't be named, because admin said so. You cannot even milk that lolcow too. Might be for the best, because /mlpol/ is not grown for that yet.
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>>88564
>>88517
I will repeat this point once again since many users seem to have failed to understand it: the drama was already contained to a few threads on the /sp/ and /qa/ boards. It was already on special boards. Yet still there was massive an intense user complaints that forced intervention.
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No.88588
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>>88583

It is soooooo easy to solve this. Give it a containment/junk/trash/whatever board where it is allowed. Ignore all complaints in said board except illegal content.
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No.88592
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Maybe we can kill 3 birds with one stone.

1) The board needs more participants
2) MLP will continue to wane and one day be mostly dead
3) Cancerous posting needs a home

Time for a /b/ board.
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>>88583
Then ask them where the hell do they think shitpost threads like certain Glimmer ones should go? Or remind them what our /sp/ is about in the first place.
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>>88595
This. WHY IS SHIT POSTING WRONG???
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No.88601
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>>88517
>thick
If your concerns and opinions are so legitimate, why do you undermine your position by being a faggot about it? Does your 'fun' have to be at another's expense?
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>>88601
Are you starving for (you)'s this much? OK then.
>If your concerns and opinions are so legitimate, why do you undermine your position by being a faggot about it?
Am I? I don't think so. In no way am I being a faggot about this, unlike you, who cannot even give answers and resorts to bad shitposting, unlike some other anons.
>Does your 'fun' have to be at another's expense?
Is that bad? If it is, please get the fuck out of here, because you clearly don't belong on imageboards. Really, it depends.
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No.88605
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>>88599
Shitposting isn't wrong. The problem here is that THIS precise shitposting is specifically targeting one Anon whom I still agree with. Facts are as follows: the meme of starslut shitter and "equality" created a massive influx of actual communist posters off plebbit, dumblr, and other zero talent sites. Essentially that was what created nu-mulp, hastening the death of four cucks. They quickly began to establish their "own" safe spaces, carrying out massive pro-communist spamming campaigns, cry about horse pussy, and making a concentrated effort to fully undermine the board. A sudden jump of users was directly correlated to the glimshit posting, as well as singling and calling out the Britposter to "explain why it's bad". The continued reliance on ad hominem attacks, commie-baiting, and similar nu-mulp tactics were what pissed people off.

>>88604
Fuck off SB.
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No.88606
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>>88605
>unhide post
>this guy is still at it
I made a nice call when I filtered you. You still have nothing of value to say.
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No.88608
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>>88588
We've been ignoring it for weeks. Complaints just get louder and users intentionally bring it to the main board so their complaints can be even louder.
>>88595
It was specific personal attacks posted as off topic replies to threads that not only detailed the threads, but ignited weeks-long flame wars.
>>88599
It's not shit posting that is affected, it is making posts of a certain nature intended to start flame wars that make users extremely angry, that tend to start flame ways that make users extremely angry, and that were foreseen by the poster as starting flame wars that make users very angry.
>>88592
I'm assuming you are joking, because we already have not just one, but two random boards
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>>88605
Make a shit posting board since our shit posting board is apparently not a shit posting board and we need a shit posting board to post shit posting and to post shit posting about shit posting about shit posting boards.
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No.88610
>>88606
(You) are shilling FOR the continuation of a slowly rising problem. (You) are likewise agitating to keep the flames fanned in order to please the glimshitters AND create a slippery slope by legitimizing maliciously personal attacks. Fact: you do not belong on this imageboard, SB.

>>88609
Don't aid in legitimizing an actual problem, Vril.
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No.88611
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>>88604
>implying
Your manner of expressing "legitimate" concerns and questions does not warrant a respectful answer, so no.
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No.88612
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>>88608
>I'm assuming you are joking, because we already have not just one, but two random boards

It is not random if it is being policed. I understand that you want less drama flowing to you, just declare that its a shit posting board and walk away. Why the struggle when you can laugh it off. The whole point of random boards is triggering people. When did we become whinny babies?
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No.88613
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>>88611
Fuck off then, if you are not willing to give respectful answers. And while you're at it, get the fuck out of here and move to Reddit or Tumblr where I'm sure you will feel more at home.
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>>88613
I give respect to those who are respectful.
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No.88615
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>>88612
This bit of "drama" is not entirely about triggering people, Vril. The vast majority of glimshit comes from dedicated card-carrying communists that are absolutely asspained by saying ANYTHING negative about their Lenin/Stalin idealogue. Allowing ONE of them to continue their operations here is a jeopardy factor, then there's this SB fucker that seems to be one of the initial causers of that mess.
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No.88616
Wow. Isn't it already over?
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No.88619
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>>88615
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Scare
I need Purple Scare memes, stat!

So what you are saying is a person, who can't be named (BarneyBrit?), is our last defence again the Purple Scare and he must be allowed to stay to keep the Commies away? OMG.
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>>88612
I don't know if I have just not been clear in my previous posts, but exactly what you propose has been tried. The issue has been ongoing for 4 weeks on the /sp/ and /qa/ boards. I believe it started on October 17, or even earlier. The solution you propose failed. So now we intervene.

Looks to be about time to close the thread.
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No.88622
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>>88619
…I was beginning to think you were being ironic. Now I'm not sure. No, the word barney was used in the context of "anyone that doesn't gratefully enjoy our communist overlord glimshit is a child~desu" type of batshit insane SB tactics.
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>>88614
And I am respectful, guess what. You? I don't see that in you. Or you're not even trying, to which you already admitted to. We are going to get nowhere because of that.
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>>88621
Is the failure the mods getting triggered? Who cares about shit posting board causing triggering? Why the triggering of the mods?
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>>88624
User complaints
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No.88627
>>88622
I am ironic on top and making a point underneath. We are generating our own drama. Mods even moved this drama to /mlpol/ on purpose!! WTF.
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No.88628
>>88623
There's been nothing respectful! You've been catty, arrogant, condescending, and boorish.
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No.88629
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>>88626
I don't get it

>shit posting board

>people upset

duh!?!!!
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>>88626
Right, yet the point that is not coming up enough is this: this form of glimshit posting is literal nu-mulp communist propaganda. I simply do not see how you aren't recognizing the SAME shit that happened on four cucks -> happening here. What.
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No.88631
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This is still illegal you know.
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No.88632
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>>88629
There simply is no solution that could possibly satisfy every concerned party. I, in agreement with other staff, went with a solution that I believed to be most fair, least arbitrary, least restrictive, but certain to put an end to this issue. And that is that.
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No.88640
>>88612
>policed
/sp/ is barely moderated, there's been exactly one anon banned from that board in the entire time it's existed. You can pretty much post whatever you want there.
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