/mlpol/ - My Little Politics

>[The state's] end and purpose are to preserve and promote a community of human beings who are physically as well as spiritually kindred
Then, if it were shown that the state were, by its very nature, antithetical to the preservation and well-being of the racial group they ruled over, a national socialist would call for the elimination of the state?

>>239535
damn right, ZOG must burn.

>>239523
Absolutely. Your people, your Volk, take precidence over all.

>>239638
Gotta be honest, he truly was a handsome man

>>239523
I think the following will settle the matter.

>Communism, Fascism and National Socialism explained in 15 minutes
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Q0hVP8oJWohx/

>>239752
Copypasta
>Fascism is the application of natural law and order to the structuring of society, with the goal of establishing the Organic State which shall inevitably result in the betterment of our people. It is the recognition that all higher civilization is built upon five pillars which when together create the foundation for the Organic State: BLOOD and SOIL and the RELATIONSHIP between MAN and WOMAN. When a society is constructed on these five pillars: eternal, natural, metaphysical, and in the Evolian sense above us and beyond us, then comes culture, religion, and nationalism, concepts which are more earthly and which we mere mortals can more easily shape and therefore shape incorrectly, these earthly concepts must draw their inspiration directly from the will to create and maintain the Organic State lest the forces of disintegration as Savitri Devi put it triumph and bring chaos and death to order and life. That metaphorical space between the metaphysical principles of eternity and the physical reality of mankind and life on earth is the bridge which Fascism seeks to gap. Fascism places not the individual, but eternal principles, as the center around which society must be organized, and therefore transcends the political spectrum which is inherently caught up in the now as it is always defined/measured by whatever opinions mainstream society holds at the time. To quote Jose Antonio Primo de Rivera; "Fascism was born to inspire a faith not of the Right (which at bottom aspires to conserve everything, even injustice) or of the Left (which at bottom aspires to destroy everything, even goodness), but a collective, integral, national faith." Fascism is the only worldview that will inspire our people to victory. I say worldview and not ideology deliberately. Ideology starts with "I", it places the individual at the center of their own universe and belief system, which is a liberal way of thinking. Liberal schools of thought have only been in place since the enlightenment, and post modern thought since post 1945, whereas eternal principles have been since the dawn of time, and yet liberals in their characteristic ignorance believe their false interpretations of mankind and reality will overpower thousands of years of evolution and nature and blacks will be white, whites will be blacks, and universalism will rule the day. As Croatian nationalist Tomislav Sunic, who spent time in a communist prison and labour camp for being a nationalist, said "Communism rots the body, but liberalism rots the soul". Liberalism is the foundational enemy, and represents chaos, individualism, confusion, and godlessness. Fascism is the foundational antidote which resides always in the innermost depths of our very god given human nature, and represents order, unity, truth, and Godliness. Only Fascism, a worldview that places not the individual at the center of their own reality, but the eternal principles of the universe, can inspire the faith and zealotry required to stand up and truly FIGHT for our people. I think a fitting end to my comment would be quoting a segment of the oath of the SS. "What is your oath?" "I vow to you, Adolf Hitler, as Führer and chancellor of the German Reich, loyalty and bravery. I vow to you and to the leaders that you set for me, absolute allegiance until death. So help me God!" "So you believe in a God?" - "Yes, I believe in a Lord God." "What do you think about a man who does not believe in a God?" - "I think he is arrogant, megalomaniacal and stupid; he is not eligible for us."

So NatSoc will take The Pill away from women, and condoms away from men?

>Volk

Mein Kampf is about the previous war, it was before The Pill.

>>239752
>>239940
>Communism, Fascism and National Socialism
As I understand it:
>Communism
The final process of Socialism, in which the state no longer has a need to exist as society has achieved the need to perfectly self-regulate and achieve a utopia, so the state is dissolved.
>Socialism
A form of government based around giving the state near complete control over the infrastructure and economy of the nation.
>Marxism
An ideal based around instituting Socialism through combatting the indifference lying with economic/social class.
>National Socialism
An ideal based around instituting Socialism through combatting the indifference between the foreign and domestic population.
>Facism
A ideal based around instituting Socialism through combatting the selfish desires in order to achieve "the greater good".
Does that about sum it all up?

Muh fascism isnt the same as NatSoc

Different name, same thing retards.

>>239958
Not an expert but the two look like they are somewhat different to me.

>>239523
I think this guide will settle the matter, specially in current times.

>>239958
They aren't the same. Fascism is geared toward the empowerment of the state. NatSoc is geared toward the preservation and well-being of the race. FFS Mussolini openly denied the existence of race. There are similarities, of course, but the endgames of the two systems are completely different. A fascist is okay with his nation being overrun by foreigners so long as the state is prosperous, and a NatSoc is okay with his state being reduced to primitivism if that happens to be the best way to secure the existence of the race. Worldview-wise, your average fascist has more in common with MIGApedes than he does with NatSocs.

>>248750
>a NatSoc is okay with his state being reduced to primitivism if that happens to be the best way to secure the existence of the race
So, a national socialist would be willing to support a Hoppe-style reactionary libertarian social order is that is the best way to promote the security and well being of the white race?

>>248755
Every ideology or political philosophy is based on morals which are themselves based on scientific assumptions. National Socialism is based on the German Historical School (more specifically, one economist whose lectures Hitler attended) and through their methodology came to the conclusion that a strong, autarkic state created optimal economic growth. This was then extended across all social spheres in the NS weltanschauung. Another conclusion arose from the belief that a martial spirit made a people stronger and therefore society had to be thoroughly militarized.

These assumptions accepted as truth are at odds with the assumptions that paleo-libertarians accept as truth (such as the moral infallibility of non-aggression) and if such underlying beliefs are at odds then morals nor the finer points of philosophy cannot be reconciled.

>>248758
Fair enough. Doesn't mean we can't be allies, or even friends.

>>248755
If you could successfully convince them of that, then yeah, most probably would.

>>248755
>national socialist would be willing to support a Hoppe-style reactionary libertarian social order
In theory sounds wonderful, however in today's world we are living literally on occupied territory, libertarianism is based on individualism which make us weak and only will get us defeated and dead.
We need to close ranks as one and think as a collective.

>>248779
>libertarianism is based on individualism
Well, sort of. It's worth remembering that words have different meanings at different times and in different contexts. While many libertarians do reject all collectives (which is rather oxymoronic, given that libertarians are a collective) that sort of individualism isn't a prerequisite for libertarianism. As shown in pic related, (((Rothbard))), one of the most important right-libertarian thinkers of the 20th century, understod this, particularly towards his later years in the 90s. The sort of individualism which libertarians are obligated to support is that rights and responsibilities fall on individuals. For example, if your cousin robs a convenience store, you shouldn't face jailtime for it. For libertarians who are also economic Austrians, there is also methodological individualism, which is basically the idea that the economy is the sum of the interactions of individuals and should be analyzed as such.
>When Individualism Fails.jpg
Bees aren't very individualistic, are they?

>>248779
Are you still there? I'd like to hear more about what you think.

>>248887
About bees?

>>248888
The Borg's hive mind has appeal, no doubts.

>>248888
Nice quads. And if you would like to further discuss bees, then sure.