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d81c7 No.227245

This is a thread to talk about the politics of the Federal Reserve Bank and any other central banks under the banking cartel. End the Fed

d9caf No.227249

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>End the Fed
Ahhh I remember as if it was yesterday…

791f1 No.227258

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End the Fed and all other central banks and abolish fiat currency. They exist to coordinate inflation of the money supply, raising prices and enriching banksters and governments at the expense of everyone else. Without this inflationary scheme, birthrates would also be higher as it wouldn't be so costly for people to save for the future, and without prices constantly rising, mothers could stay home and raise their children. And without the Fed, the government would not be able to finance its endless Zionist wars and gibs.

2400e No.230669

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>‘US$ is the only real currency!’ Trump demands banking regulation of bitcoin, Facebook’s Libra
https://www.rt.com/business/463972-trump-cryptocurrency-real-dollar/

Never go full jews

d3e31 No.231917

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have a bump from a casual lurker

49d93 No.231923

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Can some one explain to me why the fed and fiat currency is bad? Any time I ask I've never gotten a good answer out of anyone before. Its like nobody actually knows how its supposed to tie into everything. I don't really have an opinion on the matter because I don't feel like I know much about the topics aside from the stuff I learned in pubic school.

Regarding fiat currency I know somewhat more about that than the fed. I know from history that the gold standard was around for a long time. I know that in the 1800s the Populists tried to challenge it with bimetallism so that they could increase the money supply. At the time any increase in inflation was a good thing for them because they wanted to pay back debts to bankers more easily. I know they failed. I don't know when we went off the gold standard either. I've always been traditionally taught that fiat currency isn't bad because it allows for credit that makes economic growth possible. Most people I know seem to think it is less stable but that we would be unable to go back to the gold standard or use bimetallism without curbing economic growth. If we got rid of fiat currency wouldn't the money supply get tight and despite low inflation wouldn't it be hard for normal people to access capital? Big gaps in my knowledge there, but how is fiat currency worse than the alternatives?

The federal bank is even more of a mystery. I've heard a lot about how its bad/good but I can't explain why it is one or another. Doesn't the fed simply monitor interest rates, loan to banks, and mandate how much currency must be kept in bank reserves? Aren't those positive stabilizing effects on the banking system? Is the fed colluding with big banks or mismanaging the system? Again I don't really know much here but I'm going off of the "traditional narrative" I've always been taught in schooling.

dd7bc No.231927

>>231923
As I understand it, the FED is a private bank that issues its own money. So, the American government and the people are lending and using paper printed by some jews. Such paper has no intrinsic value (fiat currency), it is only paper with a arbitrary number printed on it telling the people its value and there is nothing tangible to back it up (for example gold).
The great con job here is that the government doesn't need the kike bank at all, because the government can print its own money and avoid to pay interests (usury) to the jews.
So, why not to print its own money and regain independence? The answer is simple and brutal, Adolf Hitler did it and he was at war with every jew capital of the world at that time: New York, London, and Moscow. Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi tried too recently and he was assassinated; Saddam Hussein tried to circumvent the FED's dollar selling Iraq's oil for euros, and war destroyed his country.
Independence from the (((banksters))) is not something easily achievable.

d38c3 No.231934

>>231927
https://www.bankofcanada.ca/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/dollar_book.pdf

This will tell you all you need to know about the history of money.

eddf1 No.231945

>>231923
The Federal Reserve System is an unholy alliance of the banks and the state. The banks benefit because the Fed allows them to coordinate inflation of the money supply by setting the reserve rate (the lower the reserve rate, the more all the banks can inflate) and expanding the base supply of money the banks can inflate upon. It also bails them out when they get themselves in trouble. It benefits the state because the Fed will buy any debt the government has (in the form of bonds) and use it to increase the money supply, meaning the state always has a willing funder for its wars and welfare, whereas taxpayers might object to explicit tax increases (ultimately, they end up paying anyway, through lost value of savings and increased prices.) This system also creates recessions and depressions through its credit expansion. In regards to your question about economic growth, it's worth noting that the 1880s were a period of strong economic growth coupled with decreasing money supply. I might articulate more fully on the problems with the Fed later.

7cfd4 No.231983

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A History of Central Banking and the Enslavement of Mankind
Written by a banking whistleblower, this is mandatory /pol/ reading

6ec05 No.231998

Central banking was a good idea in the days of gold-backed currencies but the fiat-money and the keynesian economy and the goal of inflation have such negative effect that it should be dealt with immediately. We should hang those responsible.

d38c3 No.232036

>>231998
1st gold.standard did not last for long and did address the UK pound dominance which was enslaving the world.
2nd the FED is run very differently to other central banks. I might diss.dr.carney but the BoE decision are well justified and have kept things stable and kept confidence in the market. Much of this can be attributed to the decision to make BoE independant of political interferance. The FED is not in the same position because of hand.shake nepotism.
3rd I would agree that 2% global inflation target fucks up natural econimics and causes a permanent divide between rich.poor. That target is imposed politically so you should not blame central banks for the enslavement. You should blame democratic.masturbatory insanity.

6ec05 No.232038

>>232036
Would you mind sharing some of the knowledge about the pound and the BoE?

6ec05 No.232039

>>232036
oh and I still believe that a currency backed by something is far better than a currency backed by nothing, that inflation robs the people of there wealth, that keynesian economics (thought up by socialists by the way) is pure cancer and that the people responsible should be hanged
look at what is happening in europe

d38c3 No.232041

>>232038
Plenty of stuff on.line can explain better than me. Although all currencies are measured against the dollar now the pound is still the most traded daily. That is largely because of the London Stock Exchange having a very large portfolio and people needing the pound to trade on it.
What is happening recently since 2016 is that because of the vote to leave Europe the BoE decided not to gradually raise interest rates and has effectively stalled the UK economy ready to re.start once a deal.or.not has been finalised. This has meant the pound value is about 10% below its true worth. Those with money trade on that week.on.week via political.speech and timed.forecasts. They are essentially fluctuating the pound value more than in the past and skimming of the cream. Three years of this is doing serious damage to the UK economy. It is however expected that once the politics is settled that the pound will re.set at a higher value. Personally I think three years of damage may not be as simple a recovery as others do. However in global terms trump.china is more of a concern. The good thing the BoE has managed is that if the world goes into collapse the UK and pound is robust enough to suffer a 15% loss of total GDP. The norm for other countries.currrncies is 1% including the dollar. The UK would be top.dog but that scenario is vey unlikely.

dd7bc No.232099

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>>231927
>(((The FED)))
>War
>Independence from the (((banksters))) is not something easily achievable.

49d93 No.232315

>>231927
>As I understand it, the FED is a private bank that issues its own money. So, the American government and the people are lending and using paper printed by some jews. Such paper has no intrinsic value (fiat currency), it is only paper with a arbitrary number printed on it telling the people its value and there is nothing tangible to back it up (for example gold).

That doesn't explain why the common arguments for fiat currency are wrong, isn't the value derived from the political and economic stability of the US government. Wasn't the gold standard abandoned because having money value fixed to gold meant the money supply was too limited? If there is only so much gold then can't your economy only support so much wealth?

>The great con job here is that the government doesn't need the kike bank at all, because the government can print its own money and avoid to pay interests (usury) to the jews.


So the government is paying interest on money the fed is printing for it? How so?

>So, why not to print its own money and regain independence? The answer is simple and brutal, Adolf Hitler did it and he was at war with every jew capital of the world at that time: New York, London, and Moscow.


I'm no expert on the banking system in the third reich, but Hitler wanted to achieve autarky. Jewish institutions boycotted Germany, but trying to achieve autarky destroyed Germany economically. Autarky would guarantee independence from international jewish finance (capitalism) but Germany never could of supported itself in autarky. As soon as the foreign currency reserves dried up Germany HAD to invade other countries or face economic ruin. Hitler chose to break from the capitalistic economic system and go socialist. I get why he did that but it doesn't mean an economic war was declared on Nazi Germany that caused its destruction. To get German "out" of the depression the Nazis used social spending, public works, and rearmament programs paid for with money form assets they liquidated or didn't have.

>>231945
That sounds about right, but didn't the pre-fed era have its own problems? I always hear bank runs being mentioned during the era. I don't know if the fed has anything to do with that or if it was fixed by instating the FDIC. Sure the 1880s were good but the depression of the 1870s was almost as bad as the Great Depression. Ideally how would the system work without the fed? Same as the old system but with some of the post depression laws like the FDIC still in effect or something entirely new?


So is the problem with the fed that its too comfy with the banks and the government? The original intent was that the fed would keep banks from going up and destroying people's money? Instead the banks are able to rely on the fed helping them so much that they can get away with poor management and risky practices? This is because the fed will loan to them or alter interest rates to "save" them?

dd7bc No.232395

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>>232315
I waited for some volunteer to come forward to engage you perhaps in some kind of hegelian argument, even if the matter is economics.
The theme at hand is vast and hard to cleanly unfold without to define precisely terms like "value", "currency", "stability", "scarcity", "output", "labor", and so on.
My knowledge of macro economics is good, but not so good to confront a seasoned commie loaded with (((Das Kapital))) under the arm, which I suspect you are.
So to make things brief and not let this thread die without some basic answers, let me give you some canned ones, even if that will earn me the title of NPC. Sorry to disappoint you, or perhaps to confirm that that you think already know, but I am not in the mood to type a wall of text.

>So the government is paying interest on money the fed is printing for it? How so?

It is called serving the debt.
The jews print the money and the world, not just USA, must pay them the mandatory usury for their gentleness.

>I'm no expert on the banking system in the third reich

OK, there is plenty of disinformation published by the kikes and their golems, let me point to alternative sources:
1- International Capitalism: How Money is Created
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Xsp9EnwyACFO/ ←- (General info about how it works)
2- NSDAP Social Philosophy and Economic Theory
https://www.bitchute.com/video/UDagBiD4Gqo/ ←- (You must watch this one. It is normie friendly)

>but didn't the pre-fed era have its own problems?

It is not about difficulties, but control and who extract resources from the rest.

dd7bc No.232397

>>232395
>The jews print the money
And before some light thinking heads point out that sovereign governments print their own currency, let me mention that central banks have the mission "to control" such sovereignty.

49d93 No.232411

I've deleted two different responses I thought up, so I'll make this one simple. I'm not a communist. I'd like to be indignant about being called a communist just because I don't buy into nat soc economics, but I'm sure if I got defensive about it you'd just cite that as "proof" you "called me out" correctly. I appreciate that despite your belief in me being a communist, you did provide some responses even if they are understandably short. I skimmed a bit of the second video and the author is citing "Wages of Destruction" so it can't be that bad. I'll make time to watch it. All of this boils down to how much and to what degree either of us believe the jews control the world. It has been argued about in the tech monopoly thread in the past so I'll just drop it here because it will simply retread the same ground again. I'd also like to point out that I'm still not even denying the fed is a bad thing. Hence the questions at the end. Americans have resisted a federal bank since Jacksonian times, they couldn't of done it for no reason.

This is the video that discusses many of the concepts I'm arguing for why National Socialist economics were poor prior to the first world war. I'm not getting my rhetoric from Das Kapital or the Communist Manifesto.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/PQGMjDQ-TJ8/

49d93 No.232412

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>>232411
>>232395
My apologies forgot to quote your post in my response.

55a1c No.232419

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>>232315
>That doesn't explain why the common arguments for fiat currency are wrong, isn't the value derived from the political and economic stability of the US government. Wasn't the gold standard abandoned because having money value fixed to gold meant the money supply was too limited? If there is only so much gold then can't your economy only support so much wealth?

Value is derived from how much people consider the thing to be valuable. Some people value chips highly versus dollars and will pay $5 for a bag of chips; others value them lowly and will pay only $0.50. Because there are lots of people buying chips and lots of people making chips, the price tends to equalize around the amount which people would purchase and producers would sell.

The problem with fiat is that it is utterly arbitrary and can be changed willy-nilly. Contrary to what mainstream sources claim, currency is not the source of wealth but only its measure. It doesn't matter how much money is in circulation because there is a fixed supply of real resources.
With a relatively fixed supply of currency, prices will remain stable or will slowly drop as money will be worth more in relation to a growing amount of goods. This encourages saving and investment. Keynesians consider this disastrous. They and the other side of the (((economic dialectic))), neo-classicals, want the money supply to be controlled by a central bank.

The central bank can adjust the money supply in three ways. Mainly, though, it buys or sells bonds on the open market. It buys treasury notes from the (((member banks))) in exchange for free money. The goal is to provide "liquidity" to the market. However, what happens is the (((banks))) use the new currency at current prices, reaping full benefits. The next one who had received the currency in exchange finds prices to be slightly higher, but still has a net benefit. And on and on, until the prices have risen in response to the injection, and after that point the rise in prices will have outpaced any individual benefit. Average consumers get shafted because by the time they see any increase in income (such as in wage increase), they've already had to deal with higher prices for some time.
A Fedkike explains how it works himself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XX2_vel-i5I


>So the government is paying interest on money the fed is printing for it? How so?

Whenever the government goes into debt (which is all the time) it issues a treasury note (https://www.investopedia.com/terms/t/treasurybill.asp). It's a bond, meaning in exchange for money now, it will pay the complete amount in a specified amount of time plus interest. Individuals, corporations, and even governments can purchase these notes. When the Federal Reserve "prints" money, it's simply taking these notes and exchanging them with credit which can be exchanged for cash. This has the side effect of lowering the interest rate because there are fewer bonds in circulation and therefore less competition to get people to pick them up.
(https://www.thebalance.com/how-is-the-fed-monetizing-debt-3306126)


>That sounds about right, but didn't the pre-fed era have its own problems? I always hear bank runs being mentioned during the era. I don't know if the fed has anything to do with that or if it was fixed by instating the FDIC. Sure the 1880s were good but the depression of the 1870s was almost as bad as the Great Depression. Ideally how would the system work without the fed? Same as the old system but with some of the post depression laws like the FDIC still in effect or something entirely new?


People tend to forget that states had their own banks which engaged in similar practices to the modern Fed, albeit in a far less sophisticated manner. Here's a pretty good rebuttal for your argument. https://tomwoods.com/ep-418-the-truth-about-one-of-those-pre-fed-depressions/

t. economics major

dd7bc No.232420

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>>232411
>National Socialist economics were poor prior to the first world war.
NatSoc came to power in 1933, 15 years after the end of WWI.
>This is the video that discusses many of the concepts…
To begin with, at 3:55 and 4:20 the talker says that Hitler was evil.
At 4:00 he calls Hitler a failed artist, meaning he is parroting jewish bullshit and never saw Hitler's works; seriously.
And many other statements that are just "character assassination" made to fit with the conscious collective imprinted by the jews on the population (meaning jewish propaganda).
The talker says that food and commerce where the a determinant issue, which is a dumb explanation.
There were many DEEPER factors at play, such the financing not only of Hitler's movement, but also the german technological sector by (((Wall Street))), and the "official" arrangement with the zionists to evacuate the german jews to Madagascar and later to Palestine before the war.
From the above many people jumped to the conclusion that Uncle Adolf was a (((banksters)))' plant; however facts refute that. The Gestapo assisted by the SS were tasked to destroy every Freemason and similar zionist' spearhead organizations, some members of the Rothschild family were taken into custody and released after the payment of a colossal bounty, and even one or two died in prison.
So, to make it short, the video is plenty of incorrect and misleading assessments. It is bull crap for the brainwashed normie tier chump.
And for you, I suggest to lurk moar. The redpilling is slow and have to be ingested in small doses.

49d93 No.232476

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>>232420
>NatSoc came to power in 1933, 15 years after the end of WWI.
My mistake, I meant to type the second world war not the first.

>To begin with, at 3:55 and 4:20 the talker says that Hitler was evil.

At 4:00 he calls Hitler a failed artist, meaning he is parroting jewish bullshit and never saw Hitler's works; seriously.
And many other statements that are just "character assassination" made to fit with the conscious collective imprinted by the jews on the population (meaning jewish propaganda).
That is understandable, but a key point that he is also trying to drive home is that Hitler was not a madman. Even if he personally thinks Hitler's policies were "evil" he is saying they were supported by conclusions based on logic and reason: Racial Science and what he dubs, "The Shrinking Markets Problem." The classic narrative dismisses Hitler's "logic" because socialists and moderates are afraid people will turn into Nazis if they also hear and believe his reasoning. It is the same reason communists what to convince people fascists and national socialists are interchangeable. They don't want people to see how they are different and potentially adopt their ideas.

I've watched the first hour of that documentary so far and it is as accurate as I can tell. The author is obviously interpreting National Socialist economics from a positive lens, but he is acknowledging where problems did exist in the Reich economy. Its worth noting that if you subscribe to classical liberal individualistic values, many "positives" of the National Socialist economy are "negatives" and visa versa. I don't find Hitler's social programs particularly negative, but I'll hold on any further comment until I get around to watching the other hour and a half.

>>232419
Thanks, that's really informative. Whenever I asked my gen ed econ professor about why people hate the fed he couldn't really give me as substantial of a answer. This makes much more sense. I'm a history guy so most of my history professors aren't very good with economics but the few econ professors I've got weren't as great with economic history either. Usually they are just biz types.

dd7bc No.232627

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>>232476
Here I found more info about NatSoc economics from one of /ourguys/, VertigoPolitix. His channel have been deleted as well many mirrors of his videos, but some are still up.

German War Against Globalism, part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf3JGmnkwNY
German War Against Globalism Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRQEAbPVImE

dd7bc No.233692

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>>231923
>>232395
>>232419
>debt

>Endgame: Starting In 2024, All US Debt Issuance Will Be Used To Pay Only For Interest On Debt

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-31/endgame-starting-2024-all-us-debt-issuance-will-be-used-pay-only-interest-debt

7357a No.233738

>>233692
Fuck Alexander Hamilton, the bastard who popularized the idea of American debt.

dd7bc No.233743

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>>233738
As I see it, there are two choices.
1- We enter into a new era (NWO) where countries gave sovereignty to international capital because they own us, meaning we will be "officially" ruled by a corporation, or…
2- We witness a revolution where nations' will are reinstated and oligarchs and associated golems are gutted.

7357a No.233748

>>233743
Indeed. And we won't reach #2 by doing nothing and waiting for the Collapse to come.

6ec05 No.236024

The whole subject is weird and every time I think I got it I run into contradictions.
None the less I still think that fiat money, keynesianism and (monetary) inflation have much more downsides than upsides.

0ec1c No.238491

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44a17 No.238529

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>>238499
I check your digits sir

dd7bc No.242160

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Godfrey Bloom exposes the banking scam.

6f318 No.242217

>>242160
This is beautiful. Thanks Anon!

dd7bc No.242250

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>Ron Paul warns of Federal Reserve messing with US elections
https://www.bitchute.com/video/kbMaRC2C3tho/

68846 No.242295

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c3ded No.243460

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He seems to be another Zionist jew. He’s always hanging around the war hawks like Pompeo, You don’t see HUD secretary Ben Carlson war hawking.

dd7bc No.247469

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b59b9 No.247488

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>The original white extremist
https://www.bitchute.com/video/734Zk3MoGu87/
The Jews, the Fed, our enslavement.

8198b No.251285

File: 1574248072047.mp4 (11.65 MB, 854x480, 125840494904.mp4)

The financial system, explained by Ken O'Keefe.



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