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>Latest interviews with Assadhttps://youtu.be/1xbLFYo4T7U https://youtu.be/RbLONDCe3Ro https://youtu.be/YB-McdKnFtQ
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Devs Nov 11>Al Safa:SAA advances 2km&kills several jihadists. IS claims they killed 25 SAA soldiers on Nov10 attack on SAA positions>Idlib:Major General Suheil Al-Hassan has ordered all of his troops to be on high alert due to jihadist infiltration attempt near Abu Dhuhour Airport. SE Idlib/NE Hama getting bombed right now>NW Hama: Turkestan Islamic Party attacks SAA positions at Tal Malah, Zaleen, Mughayr& Tal Sakhar. They were unable to penetrate>Euphrates valley:SDF resumes attack on IS>Manbij:Turkish military struck SDF defenses near the city, TFSA attacks al-Hamran town (NW Manbij). In response US-coal been doing flights along the border>Swarm of PKK suicide drones attack targets in southern Turkey>Iraq:PMY foils IS attempt to enter Syria's DeZ via Al-Anbar>The Telegraph:Germany secretly paid rebels in Syria nearly €50 million>Jordanian border guards open fire on Syrian refugees near Rukban Camp>Yemen:Saudi coal attempts to encicle al-Hudaydah and isolate al-Hudaydah airport from the rest of the city>Houthis cut Saudi coal supply route S of Al-Hudaydah killing 180 Saudi-backed fighters,destroyed 21 military vehicle
>outer pol is being invaded by literally JIDF cope patrol
wew, guess the pali must have hit them good
4chan is being flooded with pro israel threads
what are you implying?
I dont know if this place cross threads>>184831
fucking kek, nice one Pingu
consider the following, when you're between such two groups (SAA, ISIS) you're de facto moderate>b-b-but muh islamist
the Overton window is different in ME
Indeed Doc, wonder if they will name themselves as secular too. ;^)
only if there are people willing to pay for it
even amongst pseudo jihadis, the rules of politics apply
>Taliban routs commando company in one of Afghanistan’s most secure rural districts
Last week, the Taliban launched an assault on the district of Jaghuri in the embattled eastern Afghan province of Ghazni. Reports in the Afghan press downplayed the severity of happenings in Jaghuri, which is considered to be the most secure rural district in all the country due to the demographics and geography.
However, reporters from The New York Times who were on the scene saw something much different and far more terrifying than what was reported in the Afghan press: an Afghan Special Forces commando company that was sent to bolster defenses was routed, while security forces and government officials were attempting to flee the scene as Taliban forces advanced.
As The New York Times noted, Jaghuri, which is considered to be “Afghanistan’s Shangri-La,” has until now been immune from the Taliban’s insurgency, despite that fact that it is located in Ghazni province, which has been a hotbed of Taliban activity. Jaghuri’s population of 600,000 is predominantly Hazara and are opposed to the Taliban. The Taliban has isolated the remote district by cutting off roads, but refrained from attacking it.
Last week, Taliban fighters (more than 1,000 of them, according to the Times) pressed their attack into Jaghuri while also assaulting other districts in Ghazni. Reports from Ghazni, such as this one from Khaama Press on Nov. 7, parroted the official Afghan government line that the Taliban was “pushed” from the district as military reinforcements arrived. TOLONews echoed this sentiment on Nov. 7, when it quoted Interior ministry spokesman Najib Danish.
“Enough equipment has arrived via air to our forces and backup forces have been deployed there. The situation is under our control, but clashes are still ongoing,” said Danish told the news agency.
Yet, as the Times reported, by Nov. 11, the situation in Jaghuri was in disarray. Security forces have all but collapsed. An Afghan Army Special Forces commando company which was sent to Jaghuri to help shore up the local militia that secured the district, was rendered combat ineffective. Of the 50 members of the Special Forces commando company, 30 were killed and 10 more were wounded.
The commander of the Hazara militia was killed and three of his sons are missing. Local Afghan officials pleaded with a delegation from Kabul to send reinforcements, but none came, despite promises. An official from the Ministry of the Interior downplayed the deaths of the commandos, and claimed they were local militiamen, despite the fact that the bodies of the soldiers being stacked in front of him were wearing commando uniforms.
As of Nov. 11, Afghan officials and all those who could leave the district were attempting to do so. The Taliban are said to be just miles from the district center, where the remaining security forces and militia are holed up.
>Afghan forces seemingly on the brink of collapse
The Taliban’s rout of the commandos and collapse of Afghan forces in Jaghuri, and the government’s inability to send reinforcements, should come as no surprise. The Afghan military and police forces have been unable to defend Afghanistan’s rural areas and have been overrun at a host of bases, outposts, and checkpoints throughout the country over the past several years. The Taliban overran four significant bases in the first six days of this month. Since the beginning of this year, the Taliban has routed a commando company in Ajristan district Ghazni, and inflicted heavy casualties on Afghan Special Forces in Farah.
To remedy the problem, the US military and Resolute Support – NATO’s command in Afghanistan – advised Afghanistan’s ministries of defense and interior to pull back from rural areas and defend more populous areas. In theory, this should have preserved Afghan forces and defended the bulk of Afghanistan’s population from the predations of the Taliban. In practice, it has resulted in a degraded security situation and has put the Taliban in an even better position to threaten and attack Afghanistan’s population centers.
While US and Afghan military officials have claimed that Afghanistan’s remote areas are strategically insignificant, the Taliban has used its mastery of them as a springboard to take the fight to more populated areas. In these remote districts, the Taliban has established its shadow government, which it uses to spread its ideology and further its military aims. Here, the Taliban taxes the local populations, recruits fighters, establishes training camps and military stockpiles, while using these areas as staging points to attack neighboring districts. In the south, the Taliban controls and hotly contests a band of districts, panning from Ghazni and Zabul in the east all the way into Helmand, Nimruz, and Farah in the west that it uses to take the fight to the Afghan government. Over the past six months, this safe haven was used to launch major incursions into Ghazni and Farah cities.
The Afghan military has been unable to halt the Taliban’s slow but inexorable attacks that have taken place in all regions of the country. The size of the Afghan military has decreased at a time when more, and not less, soldiers and policemen are needed to stave off the Taliban assault. Over the past year, the size of the Afghan security forces has decreased by almost 9,000 personnel due to casualties, desertions, and failure to reenlist.
The Taliban clearly has the initiative and Afghan forces are on the defensive in many areas in Afghanistan. It is unclear how long the Afghan security forces can suffer losses such as the one in Jaghuri. Casualties are at an all time high, and the cumulative effect on morale of Afghan forces cannot easily be measured since elite forces and military and police bases are overrun with shocking regularity, at this point on a near daily basis.
>Russia, Jordan and Egyptian Delegation Blame Israel For Gaza Violence
DAMASCUS, SYRIA (11:30 P.M)- Russia has joined in on condemning Israel for Gaza violence, following a covert Israeli assassination mission.
Russia, Jordan and an Egyptian Delegation, have all declared that Israel is responsible for the violence in Gaza. The Russian condemnation comes after an Egyptian delegation to Gaza, set up with the purpose of creating a ceasefire, place the blame on Israel for starting the violence.
More than 10 Palestinians are dead, as a result of Israeli airstrikes and violent attacks. 50 Israelis have allegedly been injured, by Hamas rocket fire, although the large majority of the injuries are panic attacks.
It is claimed by the Israeli Military, that 80 targeted strikes have been launched against Gaza. Hamas claim that over 300 rockets have been fired into Israeli held territory.
Israel bombed the ‘Al-Aqsa TV’ Palestinian media building, in Gaza, also recently striking and destroying the Al-Amal Hotel (Gaza City).
Updated statistics on the dead are not yet available, although the Palestinian Ministry of Health puts the number at 10, within around 24 hrs.https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/russia-jordan-and-egyptian-delegation-blame-israel-for-gaza-violence/
I have been a bit out of the loop, when did Ivan get back Pingu?
>Assad regime and its militias are sending reinforcements towards Tall Rifat and Minag airport.https://twitter.com/op_shield/status/1062281253855072256
Video in link
>S. #Syria: battery of 4th Division launchers shelling #ISIS-held #Safa Volcanic Field w/ improvised "Golan" rockets (IRAM).https://twitter.com/QalaatAlMudiq/status/1062329219924013056
Video in link
kek, calling him a spy for sharing the same pics the Selfie Arab Army publicly share.
why did he leave to begin with?
Someone he was trying to buy game skins from got his Twitter password and tried to blackmail him into sending nude pics in exchange for giving Ivan his Twitter account back. Not kidding.
>>185507>Someone he was trying to buy game skins from got his Twitter password and tried to blackmail him into sending nude pics in exchange for giving Ivan his Twitter account back. Not kidding.
where to begin>game skins
how old is he again? 14?>he had to take a hiatus instead of just moving on to another account
is he retarded?
sauce me on that since i struggle to believe it
I never saw a sauce on it, but the info came from snus, so I would say it was reliable. if you ask him he can probably fill you in, Maghrebois also said the same shit, for what it's worth
I will try to find some
talk about being blown the fuck out
any news since the sanctions?
is there discontent or people just can't be bothered to give a fuck about america anymore?
Nothing has changed for people.
Before nuclear deal rouhani promised many things but after reaching nuclear deal and repeal of sanctions nothing changed for people and economy.
Looks like sanctions have no effect on our shitty and broken economy.
thanks for the insights
busy days at work?
https://twitter.com/Zabihullah_4/status/1062210884473368576>#AlKhandaq CP overrun in Patang area of Sayedabad #Wardak last night, 7 gunmen killed (corpses left behind) as rest managed to flee. Another CP overrun in Kalachi area of Jalrez district, enemy fled after losses. Sizable amount weapons/equipment seized by Mujahidin in ops.https://twitter.com/Zabihullah_4/status/1062209095246188545>#AlKhandaq Outpost in Shah Hassan Khelo area of Shahjoi #Zabul attacked, dozens gunmen killed/wounded (9 corpses left behind), weapons seized by Mujahidin - Ahmadihttps://twitter.com/Zabihullah_4/status/1062210224046723072>#AlKhandaq CP overrun in Khakrez district #Kandahar, 10 hireling police killed (corpses left behind), pickup truck/14 unit weaponry/NVG/generator/equipment seized - AhmadiLaughing in Pashto heard all across Afghanistan
Btw, I did several changes.
On the Shitmap, I changed some of the frontlines to be more in line with the Districtmap for the sake of consistency (Look at Ghazni!)
On the Districtmap, I made districts with the provincial capital off-coloured.
aye, busy season combined with picking up another department I am now responsible for. One positive is it helped me cut back on smoking.
>>185712>ANA chief in Malistan
Means ANA is already in Malistan.>I think you should keep the area b/w malistan and jaghatu red
I dunno, it would look like a big long bulge from Jaghuri to Malistan; or even worse, an ugly bulge area that bottlenecks between Jaghuri and Moqor(Muqur).
Take note that Khaz Uruzgan is contested, so it's simpler to shift around the frontlines in east Uruzgan province, and then have it like the ANA is attacking from east Uruzgan.
My personal rule is "Go the simplest way for maps and minimize border gore". Fair?
Unless you have proof that the ANA are present in the area between Malistan and Jaghuri.
>>185764>Unless you have proof that the ANA are present in the area between Malistan and Jaghuri.
Malistan and Jaghatu*
shite, I'm all over the place.
Taliban are in Farah city.>#Taliban at the entrance of #Farah city. With Govt. focused on #Ghazni province, this place is again on the verge to fall in #IEA hands…the only thing which represents the real obstacle for insurgents is nearby #NATO base https://twitter.com/RisboLensky/status/1062755785942462465
>#Farah : Sh●ts from Fresh Video from Bagh e Pul Area of #Farah City under #Taliban Controlhttps://twitter.com/DRKNURPAKT1/status/1062658763147145216https://twitter.com/DRKNURPAKT1/status/1062659965540884480
>Baghpul bazar, a strategic location 2 km west of #Farah city have fallen to Taliban control.https://twitter.com/Pashtunist/status/1062787031598841856
Aye, back in May. And they have been slowly creeping up the city again. Bear in mind though the Americans have deployed soldiers there after the recent attempt to take over the city. Officially they are there to train Afghan forces and will not take part in combat.https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/08/06/570345/Afghanistan--US-Special-Forces
so how's the situation in farah? no opposition to taliban?
any nato action so far?(asking since it's what defeated them before in farah)
Personally I haven seen or read any report about that but they will be responding soon enough.
they sure don't seem in a hurry
is this a sign that the NATO leadership already giving up on doing anything?
Checked. It seems the Taliban are faster than the ANA.
ANA focuses on one place, Taliban attacks another place, then ANA arrives to defend that place, the Taliban attack yet another place.
Just like Vietcong against the South Vietnamese Army.>>185787
Pingu, you member when we talked about the Taliban's endgame - taking the countryside while the ANA retreats to the populated areas, then the Taliban raid/besiege the populated areas and begin taking over one by one?
Do you think the Taliban have already or are entering this endgame? I mean, look at the Districtmap - 7
districts containing the provincial capital are contested by the Taliban with them contesting two capital cities (Farah and Ghazni) this year alone, and actively closing in on Maymana, Tarinkot, Pul-i-Alam with minimal NATO involvement afaik.>>185792
IIRC, NATO has advised the ANA to retreat to the populated areas and let the rural areas fall to the Taliban since the ANA is being overstretched.
Of course, this plays right into the Taliban's hands since their short-term goal is to seize the countryside and then use the countryside to launch attacks on the populated areas after cutting them off from each other.
>>185797>IIRC, NATO has advised the ANA to retreat to the populated areas and let the rural areas fall to the Taliban since the ANA is being overstretched.
in a majority rural country where most of the income is from agriculture and subsistence farming, the afghan government is set to lose (or be heavily reliant on mutt gibsmedats which will make them more easily influenced by said mutts)
Never said they were smart. ANA is screwed no matter what they do:>If they take the fight into the rural areas, they overstretch and the Taliban can surround/rout them and the cities fall faster>If they don't take the fight into the rural areas, Taliban takes the rural areas, delivering a crippling economic blow to the gov't leading to increasing desertion, and lay siege to the cities.
Btw, I remember some reports about ANA deserting/defecting due to low to zero pay and low willingness to fight for the gov't due to them being a lost cause.
ANA defectors going full rampage on unsuspecting NATO troops is a common occurrence and a taboo subject
ask any of your vet
To save non-Italian reading Anons the trouble, here's the direct translation from Google Translate:
Migrants, Salvini welcomes 51 arrived with a humanitarian corridor from Niger: "These children will become Italians"
I did the snus for awhile but I started using it more than cigarettes
>#AlKhandaq Key CP overrun in Lashmak area of #Ghazni capital last night, 11 police killed (5 corpses left behind), 9 wounded & sizable amount weapons/equipment seized by Mujahdin. Enemy sustained more losses in attack on CP in Zergaro area.https://twitter.com/Zabihullah_4/status/1062950107346362368
Moving on the provincial capital again!
Well the current coalition commander has admitted that the war cannot be won militarily so take from that what you will.>>185797>Pingu, you member when we talked about the Taliban's endgame - taking the countryside while the ANA retreats to the populated areas, then the Taliban raid/besiege the populated areas and begin taking over one by one?
Aye the do seem to be nearer to their desired outcome. Like you said next year is going to be really crazy. Also
>Regarding situation in #Ghazni-a lots of conflicting reports. Malistan district is under #ANDSF / militia control after #Taliban briefly seized it, but Govt. officials escaped. Clashes ongoing not very far. Air strikes, fighting, dozens of dead and wounded, thousands displacedhttps://twitter.com/RisboLensky/status/1062784969444089856
>Farah : U.S Troops have Reached FOB Farah after Deadly #Taliban Attacks on Security Forces in Past week which Hundreds of them were kiled.
Latest Major Attack killed 67 in Two Districts , Small attacks too not stopped in Main City .https://twitter.com/DRKNURPAKT1/status/1063010565919068160
>Breaking: Intense clashes erupt along Idlib-Hama axis
BEIRUT, LEBANON (6:00 P.M.) – A series of intense clashes broke out this afternoon between the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) and jihadist rebels in the southern countryside of the Idlib Governorate.
The clashes broke out when scouts from the pro-government National Defense Forces (NDF) caught several militants trying to move towards the Syrian Army’s lines near the town of Al-Taman’ah.
According to a military source in nearby Hama city, the Syrian Arab Army unleashed a barrage of machine gunfire and artillery shells towards the militants.
The jihadist rebels responded with heavy gunfire of their own before they backed away from the Syrian Arab Army’s lines in the southern countryside of Idlib.
This latest exchange resulted comes just hours after the Syrian Arab Army and Free Syrian Army (FSA) clashed in the northern part of Hama.https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-intense-clashes-erupt-along-idlib-hama-axis/
>Houthis denies any ceasefire in Hodeidah, battle continues
BEIRUT, LEBANON (6:20 P.M.) – The Houthis Movement has denied the reports that claimed the Saudi Coalition and their allies have halted the battle in Hodeidah.
According to the official media wing of the Houthis, the Saudi Coalition and their allies have not halted their heavy bombardment of Hodeidah, despite announcing that a ceasefire was established between both sides.
The Saudi Coalition has reportedly launched several airstrikes over Hodeidah this afternoon, targeting a number of sites controlled by the Houthis.
While no ground advances have been made, the Houthis have reported that they are remaining on high alert in Hodeidah.https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/houthis-denies-any-ceasefire-in-hodeidah-battle-continues/
>>185981>All News Confirmed . Local Farah Official admitted Death of around 60 ANP/ALP killed by #Taliban Last Night in Khak e Safed & Farah Rood District . Zabihullah Mujahid Confirmed Missing 90 ALP Soldiers Joined Talibanhttps://twitter.com/DRKNURPAKT1/status/1063010013814362112
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>>186005>#Kabul govt lose another battalion in #Farah province, Taliban attacked last night the battalion with the help of 6 infiltrators and killed 30 #ANDSF.
The battalion was placed in Farah Rod district, Taliban seized all weapons and equipments and overrun the base completely.https://twitter.com/Zulmai_Afghan/status/1062995217090072577
>#ANP officers message:
Never trust govt officials and they will never send you reinforcement, surrender to #Taliban, we are here like guests.
Taliban released and handed over wounded officers to @ICRC_af in #Farah province. https://twitter.com/Zulmai_Afghan/status/1062999372621848577
>I tried to locate approximate points of recent #Taliban offensive in #Farah province. Qala i Kah (west of Farah), Pusht Rod (N), Khaki Safed (NE), Bala Buluk (E) all on the verge of collapse #Afghanistanhttps://twitter.com/RisboLensky/status/1063134910209318913
Real talk: The Taliban have seriously intensified their operations recently. Do you think they're taking advantage of weaknesses in the gov't, or is it just wrapping things up before the winter sets in?
>>186011> Do you think they're taking advantage of weaknesses in the gov't
ofcourse they are>wrapping things up before the winter sets in?
I really cant say they got the government on the backfoot if they stop now they will give the ANA and coalition forces some breathing room(that is not to say that fighting completely stops in winter but the tempo is not the same as the spring and summer seasons). I expect them to keep attacking atleast in the southern regions.
I see. Thanks for the insights Pingu.
also confirm one thing for me the encircled in red is location of Baghpul as reported herehttps://twitter.com/Pashtunist/status/1062787031598841856
R&U video>Syrian Army using "Golan-1000" missile systems against ISIS in al Safa regionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b09IXl3Ncq0
>Syrian Army pounds rebel defenses in northern Hama
BEIRUT, LEBANON (8:30 P.M.) – The Syrian Arab Army (SAA) has launched another attack in the northern countryside of Hama, today, after relatively quiet afternoon at this front.
Using surface-to-surface missiles and artillery shells, the Syrian Army struck Jaysh Al-‘Izza’s positions near their headquarters in the key town of Al-Lataminah.
The Syrian Arab Army reportedly targeted the vast network of trenches that were dug by Jaysh Al-‘Izza along the Idlib-Hama axis.https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-pounds-rebel-defenses-in-northern-hama/
>Kurdish-led SDF chasing Baghdadi in Euphrates River Valley
The Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) are fighting Daesh leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi’s followers and family members in Hajin, an eastern Syrian town about 50 km west of the Iraqi border, a Sun correspondent embedded with the militia has reported.
“In other battles, the jihadists had other places to run to, but in Hajin they have nowhere to go,” SDF commander Havel Ronnie Walat told the outlet. “Here it is only the true believers left and they will fight to the death,” he said.
Earlier, Moscow accused the US-led coalition of resuming airstrikes in the area using white phosphorus bombs, and said the attacks were causing casualties among civilians trapped in the area. On Wednesday, Syrian media reported that the coalition used cluster bombs in Hajin and the nearby town of al-Sha’afa, leading to multiple civilian deaths. The coalition has repeatedly denied using cluster and white phosphorus munitions in populated areas in eastern Syria.
Commenting on rumors that al-Baghdadi may be hiding out in the Hajin, Walat revealed that the terrorist head honcho’s brother “was in the area recently (and) he was holding a meeting encouraging people to fight. Also, about a month and a half ago, we got intelligence that we killed (one of) Baghdadi’s sons,” the commander said.
The SDF commander said that “significant numbers” of foreign fighters remain trapped in the area, including fighters of Afghani, British, Chechen, unidentified European, Iraqi and Saudi origin. He added that the fight against the terrorists for the area has turned into a crawl, with Daesh using vehicles in suicide bombings, building tunnels and placing improvised explosive devices everywhere.
“[Daesh] have had over five years to prepare,” Walat said. “It’s very slow work [and] we are having to take [territory] house by house, metre by metre.”
“We will begin the offensive against Hajin soon…but I don’t think this battle will be done quickly. This is not a war that can be won quickly,” Walat emphasized.
Over the course of the war against Daesh in Syria and Iraq, al-Baghdadi repeatedly evaded assassination attempts by the Russian, US and Iranian militaries.
In September, Iraqi media reported that al-Baghdadi narrowly escaped death after showing up late to a meeting of terrorist commanders. The terrorist issued his latest address to followers in August, urging them to continue the jihad and to “burn” the infidels.https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/kurdish-led-sdf-chasing-baghdadi-in-euphrates-river-valley/
also use pic for next bread if you bake next
btw what languages do you speak?
thanks>what languages do you speak?
urdu(Punjabi is very similar to it so I can understand most of it too) and english
wanted to know if you could understand any of the common afghan languages
how close urdu is to pashto? and to farsi/dari?
All three have some similar words but differences are quite large to fully understand.
thanks for the insights
look what i found
aye bolandis came here during ww2 helped us alot after the Independence
Apparently, they're right in Farahhttps://twitter.com/RisboLensky/status/1062960803391963136>Current #Taliban positions in #Farah city. Bagh e Pul and Bagh e Now neighborhoods/villages on the western outskirts are under their control #Afghanistan
I dunno, seems like it's either two places with nearly the same name which would tie in with his distance of 2km or there's been a fuckup somewhere.
However, I think that is
the place as reported in your link.
>>186104>However, I think that is the place as reported in your link.
the one you encircled or I did?
The one you encircled. The one I encircled is roughly the one reported in the link I posted.
Also this is a questions for both of you what you think is the future of the US? I mean should exist in a powerful state to balance the Russians and Chinese or should it be cease to exist and be divided into different states?
i'll answer tomorrow
sleepy time for me
alright mate good night
>Saudi Coalition within 5km of Hodeidah Port
BEIRUT, LEBANON (11:10 P.M.) – The Saudi Coalition and their allies have captured a large chunk of southern Hodeidah over the last two weeks, putting them within striking distance of the port for the first time since they lost the provincial capital.
Led by the UAE-backed Southern Resistance Army and Yemeni Republican Guard, the pro-government forces scored a big advance inside Hodeidah city after they managed to overrun the Houthi troops near the municipal hospital.
Once the municipal hospital was under their control, the pro-government troops set their sights on the strategic Hodeidah Port, which is heavily fortified by the Houthi forces and their allies at the northwestern part of this western Yemen city.
According to the latest map from the Islamic World News, the Saudi Coalition and their allies are now withing 5km of Hodeidah Port.
Should the Houthi forces lose this site, they will no longer have a major Red Sea port under their control; this would leave them under a land, air, and sea siege.https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/saudi-coalition-within-5km-of-hodeidah-port-map/
>Militants and moderates still not separated in Idlib: Russia
The separation of radical militants from moderate opposition groups in the demilitarized zone in Syria’s Idlib region has not yet been successfully achieved, Russia’s Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said on Thursday.
The process, which was launched as part of a deal between Turkey and Russia in September, has not been successful despite efforts by Ankara, she noted.
Syrian Ambassador to Russia, Riyad Haddad, said on Thursday that the upcoming meeting on Syria in Astana, Kazakhstan to be held in the near future will be dedicated, in particular, to the implementation of the Russian-Turkish agreements on Idlib, TASS reported.
On Tuesday, Syria’s Minister of State for National Reconciliation Affairs Ali Haidar said that it was still premature to talk about a reconciliation process in the Idlib province since the situation in the militant-held region remains “fragile,” according to Sputnik.https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/militants-and-moderates-still-not-separated-in-idlib-russia/
>No sleep for rebels in northern Hama as Syrian Army expands assault
BEIRUT, LEBANON (12:40 A.M.) – The rebel forces in northern Hama are likely getting little sleep after the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) expanded their assault to several areas around this volatile front this evening.
According to a military report in northern Hama, the Syrian Arab Army’s 4th and 11th divisions pounded the trenches of Jaysh Al-‘Izza, scoring a number of direct hits with their artillery shells and surface-to-surface missiles.
The report claimed that the Syrian Arab Army specifically targeted the rebel defenses in the towns of Al-Lataminah, Al-Zakat, Tal Sakhar, and Ma’rkabah.
No further details were released regarding the Syrian Army’s attack on northern Hama tonight.
This latest attack by the Syrian Arab Army comes just hours after they heavily targeted Jaysh Al-‘Izza’s trenches at Al-Lataminah.https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/no-sleep-for-rebels-in-northern-hama-as-syrian-army-expands-assault/
>US Senate proposes new bill to prohibit arm sales to Saudi Arabia
A newly proposed bill in the US Senate would suspend the sale of weapons to Saudi Arabia and block refueling of Saudi warplanes bombing Yemen, as punishment for the death of a Washington Post columnist.
A group of senators on the Foreign Relations Committee, led by Bob Menendez (R-New Jersey) and Lindsey Graham (R-South Carolina) introduced the “Saudi Arabia Accountability and Yemen Act of 2018.” It was sponsored by three Democrats and two Republicans.
Menendez, who is the top Democrat on the committee, said that sanctions against 17 Saudi nationals introduced earlier on Thursday by the Trump administration were “not enough” to ensure a credible investigation of the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi, and pressure Riyadh into ending the war in Yemen.
“This legislation is an important way to hold Saudi Arabia accountable for various acts in Yemen as well as the death of Jamal Khashoggi,”said Graham.
“We are putting teeth behind these demands with regular oversight, sanctions and suspension of weapons sales and refueling support,”Menendez said.https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-us-senate-proposes-new-bill-to-prohibit-arm-sales-to-saudi-arabia/
Long overdue. Saudi Arabia has been nothing but trouble for the US for a long time, and barely anyone aside from Rand Paul and a few others even mention it.
I think it should both remain as the united 50 states, while also being 50 seperate states to form their own alliances and unions (Confederacy for example)
I mean, each state should be granted such great autonomy to the point of being de-facto independent and free to pursue their own domestic/foreign policy with a forum for all 50 states on foreign policy matters concerning all 50 states, and this can be accomplished by shrinking the federal government to being basically only for "the common defence" against foreign threats as cited in the Constitution.
Fun fact: before the Civil War, people referred to the United States as "The United States are
Afterwards, it became "The United States is
But they should be kept together through a loose union (pic related) like the EAEU, and all 50 states should have a military alliance so if one is attacked, all 49 others come to the defending state's aid - just because the states aren't bound by an all-powerful federal government doesn't mean they're weak. If anything, they're stronger
without a tyrannical federal government breathing down their necks.
But none of that will happen until after civil/race war resulting in the overthrow of the government and new checks for future security against corruption. I predict this war will happen within the next 5-10 years, and I'm wondering if I'm being generous with that estimate.
>>186253>I mean, each state should be granted such great autonomy to the point of being de-facto independent and free to pursue their own domestic/foreign policy with a forum for all 50 states on foreign policy matters concerning all 50 states, and this can be accomplished by shrinking the federal government to being basically only for "the common defence" against foreign threats as cited in the Constitution.
That is how it was envisioned, considering the articles of confederation. >But none of that will happen until after civil/race war resulting in the overthrow of the government and new checks for future security against corruption. I predict this war will happen within the next 5-10 years, and I'm wondering if I'm being generous with that estimate.
Despite the hype, things are still good in the United States. Many people are rich and despite the corruption things remain stable. There are no day to day bombings or organized groups commuting acts of terror. It will take a real depression or a bad war with China to actually make anything like that pop off. Besides, people will just leave if things get too hot. People leaving is why Venezuela is not in revolution, and why problems in Africa are not actually being solved. Unless it explodes quick the incoming American disaster will be a slow burn.
>>186253>wishful thinking: the post>>186256>Despite the hype, things are still good in the United States.
IMO as the economic problems are becoming bigger (see wealth sharing during the 50's where the average worker could have a house, healthcare and education without too much struggle vs today where the wealth is far more concentrated in the hands of the very rich who are getting more and more tax cuts while the average worker gets his job taken by robots and is struggling to pay bills (most americans are living paycheck to paycheck with little to no savings)) the societal problem will become too much for the government to bear/ignore and will have to shift it's budget to fixing the society and less to the foreign policy (monetary aid to allied countries, military expenditure to keep troops abroad etc) otherwise' they might face a venezuela style massive protest in the long term
so i'd say america will be forced to make more concessions in terms of foreign policy and be forced to cooperate more with countries they're allied to instead of imposing their will as they're doing right now. this will leave the way for other regional power to expand their influence locally and supersede american presence at the border of their empire (afghanistan, ukraine korea etc)
so although we may not see a purely isolationist america in the future (ie their presence/influence will still be seen far away from their border in europe/ME/asia), their influence will be lesser than it was in the 90's and 00's (no more unilateral invasion of countries)
IMO the people saying USA will collapse/ turn into 90's russia are over-hyping it
>>186253>I predict this war will happen within the next 5-10 years, and I'm wondering if I'm being generous with that estimate.
Eb, we are nowhere near that level here, it would take a massive infrastructure collapse, apocalyptic natural disaster across the whole country, or outright martial law takeover of the states, etc. Right now the only war here is one of words between those who put themselves in the left vs right spectrum, and the majority of Americans are more worried about what they are eating later and how many Facejew friends they have. Consider the fact that the 60's saw massive political upheaval, assassinations, radical groups, niggers getting emboldened and rioting, and the like and it never spread outside of major cities. One could make the argument that the 60's were a lot different than it is now, but ultimately the foundation is fairly the same, and it would not spread to many areas of the country outside of major cities, mostly on the west coast.>>186336
excellent post Doc, I would also add that as you referenced the societal problem in regards to wealth/social needs and a need for the government to shift more focus and resources away from foreign entanglements and back to domestic ones the individual states will probably lead the way on this and get some much needed separation from the Federal Government in regards to decision making. Many states openly defy the Feds on decisions at a rate that is steadily increasing, whether passing laws that the Feds don't recognize but can't enforce (see recreational marijuana laws or California defying immigration regulations) or economic deals between states, different tax laws, etc. Ultimately you will see states taking more matters into their own hands down the road, imo
>>186256> despite the corruption things remain stable. There are no day to day bombings or organized groups commuting acts of terror>>186352> the 60's saw massive political upheaval, assassinations, radical groups, niggers getting emboldened and rioting
yep, america is far from having daily mass riots (read country wide riots) and bombing and political assassinations
and even if it reached such level it doesn't mean USA would collapse see northern Ireland during the troubles or Algeria in the 90's
it'll take more than a big chimp out to bring a country to it's knees
and we're very far from that in USA today>b-but muh liberals talking about overthrowing trump
big talk, as long as no mass action is being made (im not talking about sporadic lone wolf attacks, i'm talking about organized cells going full taliban style insurgency) then you can rest assured, and even if it happens, it doesn't mean it'll necessarily lead to a civil war
people tend to underestimate the power of secret services
>>186355>even if it reached such level it doesn't mean USA would collapse see northern Ireland during the troubles or Algeria in the 90's
Exactly.>even if it happens, it doesn't mean it'll necessarily lead to a civil war
people tend to underestimate the power of secret services
good points as well, the USA collapsing in the next few years is r/sgay fanfic, at most you would have pockets of resistance here and there but for most life would go on
>>186376> at most you would have pockets of resistance here and there but for most life would go on
it's already here: detroit. yet the average mutt is unaffected
people tend to forget that USA is huge. it would be like thinking the portuguese government would fall because there's war in eastern ukraine>the absolute state of this cityhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkICZmB_C0Qhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHRkeqESFmwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztGzzvchcUQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOnRrA6f0sE
Chicago is pretty bad too, along with most California cities.
redpill me about hamilton electors
how the fuck is that allowed in half the states?>the absolute state of your voting system
how do i know if you're not maghrebois?
and why even hiding it in the first place
>>186466>trop de nouvelles tapettes d'autres endroits
we're in a closed circle here
are you not telling me something else?
it would be a shame if someone was usurping your identity you while talking to deepy
then tell me exactly why are you you flag hiding nigger, you're way too shady>tfw taking israeli hostage
the spirit of nasrallah is surrounding me
because maghrebois lurks here
i remembered he said months back he knows about this place
but few days ago he lied to you about it
so he's prolly the guy from the old thread pretending to be his friend gathering intel>maghreception
>>186473>because maghrebois lurks here
so what nigger? he knows you're here, you were talking to him a few days ago>but few days ago he lied to you about it
when? he clearly implied he was here for a long time>prolly
he is, he told me about it in french
Before you knew and before he told you, in 4/sg/. can't find the post in the archives but it's there.
>he is, he told me about it in french
nice 4d shesh besh.
>>186480>Before you knew
i was already suspecting it a few months ago
also in which way hiding your flag is helping you against maghrebois
there are only two people here who hide flag you both know which one's which
Stop renaming your filenames, you paranoid fag.
I don't, this place changes filenames automatically when you upload.
>>186488>no idea>this whole discussion to end up to that>or maybe he's withholding info since fakeghrebois is here
BIG think> this place changes filenames automatically when you upload.
no the original filename is on the right in parenthesis
Hmmm. Fair enough. Thank you guys for keeping me level-headed tbqhwy.
Ayo hol' up
*starts importing non whites to take jobs away from poor white workers*
lemme get this straight
*star interbreeding with his imported agricultural equipment*
So huh you be sayin that huh…
*violates northern states' "state rights" with the fugitive slave act*
the war of northern aggression
*smack nigger lips inherited through interbreeding*
wasn't about huh…
*start a war killing thousands of white just to keep importing more niggers*
state's rights but huh
*attack a union fort, says the north was being the aggressor*
about slavery and huh
*complains about state rights violation now that he is on the receiving end*
*pretend the cornerstone speech and the 13 ordinances of secession don't explicitly mention the fight to keep the supremacy of the white man over the negro*
See the little arrow at the top of your post where it says anonymous? Click that arrow and delete post should be one of the options.
Ayo hol' up
*chimps out for more rights*
lemme get this straight
*gains civil rights after leader gets killed*
So huh you be sayin that huh…
*looks at white women with lust and gets lynched by KKK*
the whitey wasn't keepin us down
*smack weaker nigger lips through generations of being bred out*
because of being waycist
*gets imported in because your tribal leaders sold you out for shekels*
or bein' afraid of us but
*nearly burns every major city to the ground during one decade*
because we can't be decen' or create anything for ourselves
*burns down a city to the ground and grabs/beats a truck driver because a cop was acquitted for excessive force against a chimping negro*
an' act worse than animals?
*pretend that MLK and civil rights grants the negro free reign to act as they wish and pretend that negros can ever be equal to the white*
https://twitter.com/RisboLensky/status/1063813230865391616>Reports via @leithfadel that #IS commander Abu Hajer al Shishani (Chechen militant) was killed during finishing battles on Al Safa SE #Damascus
Good, keep killing the leaders and the pocket will collapse.
Wow I cannot fucking wait for ISIS to pop-up in a different place in Syria AGAIN knowing how "effective" SAA is with their clean-up ops.
why so pessimistic? i see it as extended /sg/ time
Oh Doc, I do belive we have at least 2 more years of fun ahead of us in case of Syria.
>Around 248 Members of Security Forces Killed in Attacks Claimed By #Taliban in Farah Province Alone in Just 2 Weeks
According to Latest Reports , 2 F16 Fighters & U.S Ground Forces have been Deployed to #Farah Province now.
Today there is a U.S Forces Raid on #Taliban .https://twitter.com/DRKNURPAKT1/status/1063469902713905152
>#Farah : U.S - ANSF Joint Raid on #Taliban in Dewar e Surkh Area of Khak E Safed District .
Helicopter & Fighters Seen Filling the Sky .https://twitter.com/DRKNURPAKT1/status/1063515722414985217
>#Nangarhar : ANSF Raid on #Taliban in Zawi Area of Khogyani Ongoing .
Taliban say yesterday #ISKP Again Attacked Taliban Position , Nearly 15 #ISKP Militants killed , Rest Retreated.
#Farah : US-ANSF Raid too ongoing.https://twitter.com/DRKNURPAKT1/status/1063505806442688513
>Details : Around 4 #Taliban Fighters killed & 1 injured according to My Sources.
While #Taliban Claim 16 Commandos also killed & 3 Taliban killed with 3 injured.
The Raid was followed by Daesh Raid (15 #ISKP killed) ; Just after 12 Hours of Daesh Raid , 01 Unit Raid Happened.https://twitter.com/DRKNURPAKT1/status/1063697010065313792
>2 #Taliban Fighters killed in Raid , 2 Other #Taliban Fighters Blew themselves on Commandos , Leaving 16 02 Unit Commandos Dead & Wounding Many Others .
Dead Bodies were immediately Lifted From BattleGround.
Zawi Hill Area , #Khogyani District .https://twitter.com/DRKNURPAKT1/status/1063722024630145024
>3 way clashes in Zawi area of Khogyani between #ANDSF #Taliban and #ISKP
#ANDSF raids against #ISKP in Pachir Aw Agam and Achin districts #Nangarharhttps://twitter.com/RisboLensky/status/1063692293906022400
>#IS #Khurasan released the pics showing the aftermath of IED attacks on #ANDSF SOF in Bandar area near Achin #Nangarhar https://twitter.com/RisboLensky/status/1063822685153701889
Khogyani is 3-way contested between Taliban, ANA, and ISIS.
Unrelated, gookmoot's putting 4chan worksafe boards on 4channel.org domain while keeping nsfw boards on 4chan.org domain to keep them seperate.
2nd and 3rd pics related.
1st pic related still.
>>186737>Unrelated, gookmoot's putting 4chan worksafe boards on 4channel.org domain while keeping nsfw boards on 4chan.org domain to keep them seperate.
we leddit nao>>186737
the larper is still usurping your identity
I don't really care tbqhwy. I gave up on that place a long time ago.>>186738
Screencap this, 4chan pass users will have to buy a 4channel pass, you cannot use 4chan pass for 4channel domain.>pic related
Lewd>tfw over one year on this site has desensitized me to this content
A-any more lewds of Syriana?
Asking for a friend
The Syrian Army (SAA) and its allies have imposed their control of al-Safa amid collapse in ISIS’ positions in this heavily fortified area, a source in the SAA told SouthFront on November 17.According to the source, the heavy rain destroyed most of the fortifications and hideouts of the terrorist group during the last few days. This forced the remaining terrorists to flee towards the eastern Homs desert, where ISIS maintain a small pocket.
The Syrian Arab News Agency (SANA) confirmed that the SAA had made a significant advance in al-Safa and said that the highest positions in the area are currently under the army control.
“Our units in the southern region made significant advance in al-Safa and imposed fire control on the remaining ISIS-held positions,” the SANA quotes a military source as saying.
Meanwhile, Syrian pro-government activists reported that the SAA had killed, injured and captured dozens of ISIS fighters during its final push in al-Safa. “Abu Hajar al-Sheshani,” a senior ISIS military commander in the Damascus desert is among the terrorist killed by the army.
The SAA launched its military operation in al-Safa following a brutal ISIS attack on the southern governorate of al-Suwayda in late September. The army faced several major setbacks in the course of the operation. However, it finally achieved success in mid November.https://southfront.org/al-safa-is-liberated-syrian-army-eliminated-last-isis-held-position-in-al-safa/
>tfw literally an act of God
>>186751> rain destroyed most of the fortifications and hideouts of the terrorist group
Weather confirmed to be an ASS*dist
Not as bad as before.
Yeah, there's nothing liek that
Bring it up in /qa/ if you really want one JJ.
I don't think there is anyone doing that. They have all the past threads there, but nothing that has been deleted. Ask a mod about it.
>inb4 Israeli or Iranian
>>186775>Bring it up in /qa/ if you really want one JJ.
ain't me dawg
stop larping maghrebi.
Thanks for the memories
>this gay attempt
yeah and you aren't living in russia either you 2 digit IQ retard
>what is proxy, for 1$ (actual worth of Iranian economy)
Lemme see if I can find the 4plebs link, but basically JJ got "gong" in ID and we had fun over it.
high energy autism i you ask me
>trannytoid still feeding her
>there are people ITT that still think doc and maghrebois are not one and the same
I gotta hand it to you doc, all that work you put into it and that persona you created truly paid off. it leapfrogs all other autism shenanigans on /sg/ by a mile.
I member the "MaghreboisFinalFormAchieved" pic you posted. :^)>>186882>>186883
I've legit considered this as well.>>186884
At least we have our gains.
Doc is maghrebois fursona.
>Over 6,500 Turkish-backed rebels mobilized for new offensive against YPG
BEIRUT, LEBANON (11:00 P.M.) – Over 6,500 Turkish-backed rebels from the Free Syrian Army (FSA) have been mobilized for the upcoming offensive against the Kurdish-led People’s Protection Units (YPG) in the eastern region of the Euphrates River Valley, the Ankara state-owned Anadolu Agency reported.
According to the Anadolu report, over 6,500 members of the Free Syrian Army’s Al-Hamza Regiment are prepared to launch their new operation.
The Al-Hamza Regiment is one of the largest units of the Free Syrian Army; they played a key role in the previous Afrin offensive .
While Turkey has not revealed their next target in Syria, it is expected that their allied rebel forces will attack the predominately Kurdish city of Kobane in northern Aleppo.
Kobane was nearly besieged by the Islamic State (ISIS) in late 2014 and early 2015; however, the YPG was able to score a major victory against the terrorist group and force them to fall back across the Aleppo province.https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/over-6500-turkish-backed-rebels-mobilized-for-new-offensive-against-ypg/
I-is it happening?
>Top US military officer says Taliban 'are not losing'
The top US military officer said Saturday that the Taliban "are not losing" in Afghanistan, and much more needs to be done to bring peace to the war-torn country.
"They are not losing right now, I think that is fair to say," Gen. Joseph Dunford, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said of the Taliban during a discussion at a security forum in Halifax, Nova Scotia. "We used the term stalemate a year ago and, relatively speaking, it has not changed much."
Dunford said that while there would never be a "military solution" on its own to bring peace to Afghanistan, the United States and its Nato partners are working to leverage military, political and economic pressure to convince the Taliban it is in their interest to negotiate a political solution to the crisis with the government in Kabul.
"Without going into detail here, we do believe the Taliban know that at some point they do have to reconcile," he said. "The key to success is to combine all that pressure to incentivize the Taliban" to negotiate.
While Dunford said recent elections in Afghanistan were "largely successful" and noted the importance of next year's presidential election there, he added, "I think we are a long way," from being able to say that point of reconciliation with the Taliban has been reached.
As part of the administration's strategy to bring about a political resolution to the 17-year war, President Donald Trump announced an increase in US troops last year that brought the total number in the country to about 14,000.
Former US Ambassador to Afghanistan Zalmay Khalilzad was recently named the State Department's special representative for Afghanistan reconciliation and has traveled repeatedly to the region for discussions with national governments and the Taliban to try to jump-start a dialogue.
But progress toward ending the decades-long conflict has proven elusive.
Earlier this month, the US government's ombudsman for the American effort in Afghanistan issued a report that said the Taliban have strengthened their grip on the country over the past three years, with the Afghan government in Kabul controlling only about 56% of the country -- down from 72% in 2015.
And Afghan security forces who took the lead from the US in 2014 on efforts to secure the country are still suffering a high number of casualties in their battle against the Taliban.
Defense Secretary James Mattis told an audience in Washington last month that Afghan forces had sustained "over a thousand dead and wounded" in August and September in their effort to protect Afghan parliamentary elections in October.
"They stayed in the field fighting, and the Taliban has been prevented from what they said they were going to do, which was to take and hold districts and provincial centers, and also disrupt an election that they were unable to disrupt," Mattis said.https://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/17/politics/joseph-dunford-taliban-afghanistan/index.html
What does r/sgay think about this? (starts at 0:41)
>Turkey demands US cut ties with Kurdish-led YPG
BEIRUT, LEBANON (11:45 P.M.) – The Turkish Defense Minister Hulusi Akar slammed the recent photo of U.S. soldiers having dinner with the Kurdish-led People’s Protection Units (YPG) in northern Syria.
“These photos have found wide coverage in our media and disturbed our people. They tarnished the image of the U.S. and its army… for the Turkish public,” Hulusi Akar said at the Halifax International Security Forum in Canada.
In response to the photo, the Turkish Defense Minister said that he expects the U.S. to cut all ties with the YPG.
“We expect U.S. to stop cooperation with the YPG terror group as promised,” he said
“It is unacceptable for the U.S. to provide arms and ammunition by plane and trucks to the YPG terrorist group even when Daesh has been neutralized to a large extent,” Akar said, adding that Turkey would never allow a terror corridor along its southern border.https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/turkey-demands-us-cut-ties-with-kurdish-led-ypg/
>Turkish Army, rebels starts new security operation in northern Aleppo
BEIRUT, LEBANON (1:10 A.M.) – The Turkish Army and their rebel allies have begun a new security operation, tonight, in northern region of Aleppo, opposition activists reported.
According to the opposition activists, the Turkish Army and their rebel allies launched a security operation targeting the “thieves and looters” in the Afrin region of the Aleppo Governorate.
The Turkish Army operation comes just months after they took control of the Afrin region from the Kurdish-led People’s Protection Units (YPG).
The looting in Afrin has been well-documented by local activists; it has gotten so bad that rebels have begun fighting each other for the booty taken from the abandoned homes in this region.https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-turkish-army-rebels-starts-new-security-operation-in-northern-aleppo/
>Taliban hold talks with US envoy in Qatar
ISLAMABAD (AP) — The Taliban have held three days of talks with U.S. envoy Zalmay Khalilzad in the Gulf state of Qatar, where the Afghan insurgent group has a political office, a Taliban official and another individual close to the group said Sunday.
The talks are aimed at renewing the Afghan peace process and eventually winding down America’s longest war. Seventeen years after the U.S.-led invasion that ended Taliban rule, the militants control nearly half of Afghanistan and carry out near-daily attacks on local security forces and government officials.
The two individuals said Khairullah Khairkhwah, the former Taliban governor of Herat, and Mohammed Fazl, a former Taliban military chief, attended the marathon talks. The two individuals spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the sensitive negotiations.
U.S. officials could not immediately be reached for comment. The State Department has refused to comment on reported talks with the Taliban.
A third individual with knowledge of the discussions said the Taliban pressed for a postponement of next year’s presidential elections and the establishment of an interim government under a neutral leadership. Abdul Sattar Sirat, an ethnic Tajik and Islamic scholar, was suggested as a candidate to lead an interim administration.
The individual, who also spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the talks, said Khalilzad wants to reach a settlement within six months, a timescale the Taliban said was too short. Khalilzad also proposed a cease-fire, which the Taliban rejected, the individual said, adding that there was no agreement on the release of prisoners, opening the Taliban office or lifting a Taliban travel ban.
Khairkhwah and Fazl were among five senior Taliban members released from the U.S. prison at Guantanamo Bay in 2014 in exchange for U.S. Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, who was captured by the Taliban after walking off his base in Afghanistan in 2009. The five are now based in Qatar, and are seen as having enough stature to sell a peace deal to insurgents fighting on the front lines.
President Donald Trump harshly criticized the 2014 prisoner exchange, and in a speech last August pledged to send in additional U.S. forces and redouble efforts to defeat the Taliban. But that strategy has had little if any impact on the ground, with the Taliban keeping up a steady tempo of attacks and an Islamic State affiliate carrying out massive bombings targeting minority Shiites.
The Trump administration now appears focused on reaching a political settlement with the Taliban, and has given in to a number of the group’s longstanding demands, beginning with the holding of direct talks. The Taliban have long refused U.S. demands to negotiate with the Western-backed government in Kabul, which the insurgents view as a puppet regime.
Pakistan has meanwhile released a number of high-level Taliban prisoners, including the movement’s co-founder, Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar. The releases are widely seen as a U.S.-directed move aimed at encouraging the Taliban to participate in talks.
In a lengthy statement issued earlier this month, the Taliban had demanded the lifting of sanctions against the group’s leaders, the release of prisoners and the recognition of their office in Qatar. The Afghan government is deeply opposed to any recognition of the Qatar office, which the Taliban in the past have billed as a government in exile.
Khalilzad has been touring the region in recent days, and reportedly met with Afghan President Ashraf Ghani on Sunday. He is expected to press Ghani to cobble together his own negotiating team, which could prove difficult given the deep divisions within the government.https://apnews.com/25fb1710e5984ef8affa82e3ed91c64c
>A senior delegation of the Jordanian parliament will head to the Syrian capital #Damascus on Monday for a several-day visit to meet President Assad & discuss normalization of relations btw the 2 countries.
- Official Jordanian news agency (Petra) quoted a parliamentary source.https://twitter.com/Bosni94/status/1064110729064787968
>The clashes are taking place in the city of #Afrin between the Turkish occupation and its armed factions / mercenaries against the mercenaries of Ahrar al-Sharqiya.https://twitter.com/afrinactivists/status/1064141651248058369
Video in link
>Peace with the Taliban will not be peaceful
The war in Afghanistan is off the rails and the United States is desperate to negotiate a deal with the Taliban to end its involvement in the 17-year-long conflict. The Taliban is more than happy to negotiate the terms of US withdrawal — but if and only if an accord is reached on its terms. Because if a so-called peace agreement can be reached, you can be sure it will be one that will not benefit the Afghan people, the US, or the region.
Hopes for a deal with the Taliban are high after US officials began to directly engage with representatives of the organisation earlier this year. Just last week, the Taliban attended a conference in Moscow hosted by Russia. While the US and Afghan governments did not send official delegations, representatives did attend.
At the conference, the Taliban laid out its demands for ‘peace’ in Afghanistan. Before talks could begin, the Taliban insisted its leaders must be removed from the United Nations Sanctions list, its members freed from prisons, its political office be formally recognised, and the end of ‘poisonous propaganda against the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan.’
The last demand is telling. In its official statement at the Moscow conference, the Taliban referred to itself as the ‘Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan’ — a staggering 61 times. This is the name of the Taliban’s government prior to the US invasion in 2001 after al Qaeda’s attack on 11 September.
The Taliban has insisted that the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan, and not the Afghan government, is the true representative of the Afghan people. The ‘un-Islamic’ Afghan government is merely a “stooge” and “puppet” of the West, the Taliban says, and it refuses to negotiate or share power with it.
Once the Taliban’s pre-conditions for talks are met, it insists that in order for there to be peace, US and NATO forces must withdraw from the country. Then, the Taliban says, there can be peace.
While some may dismiss the Taliban’s demands as merely its hard line initial position that can be whittled down in negotiations, it has held firm on these demands for well over a decade. When the Obama administration attempted to negotiate peace with the Taliban during and after the Afghan surge, the Taliban did not budge on its demands. The Taliban was, however, able to extract concessions, such as the opening of its political office in Qatar and the release of five dangerous leaders who were held at Guantanamo, at zero cost. After extracting concessions, the Taliban walked away, leaving US efforts to cut a deal in shambles.
How did we get here? In August, 2017, President Donald Trump, in a nationally televised speech, announced his plan to adjust strategy in Afghanistan after the Taliban was making military gains. The US planned to increase support to the Afghan security forces and put more military pressure on the Taliban, in an effort to force it to the negotiating table, while also persuading Pakistan to end its support for the deadly insurgency, Trump said. Within six months of Trump’s announcement of the change in strategy, the US gave up on trying to deal a military blow to the Taliban and jumped right to negotiations.
The Taliban, sensing the West’s desperation to end the war, ramped up its military offensive and is bleeding Afghan forces. Taliban fighters briefly took control of parts of two provincial capitals in May and August, and have overrun numerous military bases and several districts. Casualties among Afghan security personnel are at an all time high. The failure of the demoralized Afghan security forces to defend the rural areas of Afghanistan, which are used by the Taliban to attack more populous parts of the country, has fueled the West’s desire to cut a deal with the Taliban. The west is desperate to end its involvement in the war, and the Taliban senses that.
So, under these conditions, is a deal with the Taliban possible? The answer is yes, but it won’t be a deal that the Afghan people, the US, NATO, and those in the region who oppose jihadists (read: not Pakistan) will like. It is certainly possible that the Taliban will make some concessions that will placate the West and the Afghan government. However, it is difficult to see how the Taliban can walk back demands that it has held firmly to for over a decade, such as the withdrawal of US forces or its refusal to enter into the Afghan government, while they also still hold increasing leverage in the battle. There has been little reason to concede ground.https://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2018/11/peace-with-the-taliban-will-not-be-peaceful.php
>Pro Govt. media reported that 20 #ISKP militants surrendered themselves to #ANDSF in #Nangarharhttps://twitter.com/RisboLensky/status/1064130742375116801https://twitter.com/DRKNURPAKT1/status/1064150710479147008
>Govt. claims that Malistan district is under control of #ANDSF forces. Pic from one of the hilltops around Malistan #Ghaznihttps://twitter.com/RisboLensky/status/1064162911147491334
>Syria Army foils jihadist attack in northern Hama
DAMASCUS, SYRIA (4:55 P.M.) – The Syrian forces have thwarted an attempt made by jihadi militants to infiltrate Army positions in northern Hama as Idlib agreement falters.
Positions for the Syrian Army in the villages of Khirba and Zaleen on northern Hama countryside have come under attack launched by jihadi militants from two axes.
According to a military source, militants of the FSA-affiliate Jaish al-Izza tried to steal in through a field of olive trees. The attack was launched from the rebel-controlled towns of Buwaydah and Maarkabeh located to the south of Syrian Army-held areas.
However, government troops stationed near a rocky cliff in the area spotted the assailants, unleashing heavy artillery and missile fire, scoring directs hits and foiling the attack.
The failed offensive killed and wounded scores of rebel militants, forcing them to retreat.
This comes amid reports that the Syrian Army is preparing for a large-scale operation in the southeastern countryside of the Idlib province.https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/army-foils-attack-northern-hama/
>Some report that the Tiger Forces have been given a new task.
It is said that the mission will begin soon and under RuAF air cover.https://twitter.com/Bosni94/status/1064190051142254592
>Heavy weapons were used in clashes between militants in #Afrinhttps://twitter.com/Bosni94/status/1064205135432347649
video in link
you do remember that 250 of them surrendered in Jowzjan after the Talis fucked their shit up in the summer?
to the government*
yeah to avoid annihilation at the hands of talis
but again that's the type of shit we saw in syria when ISIS was about to be annihilated by SAA and preferred to defect to the SDF side, at the time they were in a shitty position so it strikes me as surprising that ISKP is already at that stage while it's only beginning to take power in the region
btw did you know that maghrejew has no diploma?
>#IS militant from #Jordan Abu Walid al-Urduni fighting among #Khurasan ranks in eastern #Afghanistan via @Nidalgazaui 9 foreign #ISKP militants surrendered themselves in #Nangarhar today according to pro Govt. mediahttps://twitter.com/RisboLensky/status/1064185404239286273
Please be Shitduni so that you get killed by ANA/Taliban
>In Afrin the clashes continue and it seems that the campaign against Shuhada Al Sharqiya is not going according to plan, which has succeeded in capturing at least 20 militants who have tried to storm their locations.https://twitter.com/Bosni94/status/1064244314711166978
Video in link
>>187233>Pre-exposure prophylaxis is the use of drugs to prevent disease in people who have not yet been exposed to the disease-causing agent. The term typically refers to the use of antiviral drugs as a strategy for the prevention of HIV/AIDS.
COME ON GOY, TAKE THIS AND FUCK HIV-POSITIVE FAGGOTS
>>187230>Your going to like this
sounds like to me run of the mill third world incompetence
This TFSA offensive is what will commence the SAA Idlib offensive.
MARK MY WORDS!>>187167
do not understand.>>187178
why would any afghani want to fight for that retarded ISIS branch instead of joining the Taliban?
US says they will stop refueling Saudi Jets over Yemen, …. Russia steps in and says they will support the Saudi-Yemeni Army now…
Do you have an EBIN-hodeidah-Map?
russia is trying to take US seat in world geopolitics
No. There's no reason to since the Saudis are gonna fail like last time - desertion and disintegration due to lack of supplies.>>187245
>>187249>>not liking a one man riot machine
anyone can be a one man riot machine with a rifle in their hands
this is why prison guards in USA don't carry lethal weapons around inmates and thus make it impossible for only one man to start shit up on a prison wide scale all by himself
no they are not idiot.
Neither China or Russia want the role the US has been playing (/trying to play) for the past dozen years.
It might only be right that they are trying to gain favor with an ally of the US that has so far never been available but taking their place is retarded to say, and you know it. >>187247>There's no reason to since the Saudis are gonna fail like last time - desertion and disintegration due to lack of supplies.
"Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall."
RUMORS ABOUT AIRSTRIKES IN DAMASCUS
welp. s-300 either not allowed in that area or the kikes tricked them outsomehow…
>inb4 another snadnigger smoked at the ammo depot
Still not confirmed but they claim they struck an airbase there
now you understand my insistence on it
maghrebi? urduni? or SAkike, he has ebins trip from 4/sg.
>Shuhada Al Sharqiya captured an member of the Shami front and a member of the Sultan Murad, 1 hour ago in Afrin City.
Ahrar al-Sharqiya enters the City of Afrin and moves the families of the Shuhada Al Sharqiya to Jindires #Afrinhttps://twitter.com/Bosni94/status/1064266458463694848
any news on the chinese interpol director?
and why the fuck is there so little info about it in the MSM? it supposed to be a big thing, do china hold the world MSM by the balls?
>>187358>why the fuck is there so little info about it in the MSM? it supposed to be a big thing, do china hold the world MSM by the balls?
Americans only care about America, and Trump bashing gets high ratings. Not all of them need to be directly bought off, because they will buy themselves off.
you do realize the world is only america?
i was talking about other MSM that actually report on things of value instead of Trump's last typo
only remember that there is a corruption case against him> do china hold the world MSM by the balls?
there wouldnt be news of uighur reeducation camps being spread everywhere if that was the case.
>>187370>only remember that there is a corruption case against him
doesn't mean anything, it's a selective corruption purge (aka lemme purge these bad goys from the party)
remember the crop i made from the chink guy with family in chinese politics?>there wouldnt be news of uighur reeducation camps being spread everywhere if that was the case.
true but a (soft) kashoggi 2.0 is happening right now and nothing on the radar
>>187371>remember the crop i made from the chink guy with family in chinese politics?
post it again> (soft) kashoggi 2.0 is happening right now and nothing on the radar
means they are better at handling their internal shit than others
>>187375>post it again
not sure if i still have it, i'll look>means they are better at handling their internal shit than others
what i mean is literally who kashoggi get removed by toppest goy MBS: MSM picks it up
ebil tchayna man removes president of an international organization: i sleep
putin gets more flak for farting too loud yet muh tchayna is ok?
I see what you mean now I will discuss with later though I must get some shut eye for a hour or two. Thanks for this >>187379
and good night mate.
https://southfront.org/us-led-coalition-is-trying-to-occupy-key-base-of-iraqi-pmu-near-syria-broder/>Abu Rida al-Baldaui airport, near the Syrian-Iraqi border
Where the fuck is this airport? I'm not finding it anywhere.
>>187405>haftar trying to get influence
If you have any other options for Libya, Doc, I am all ears.
Seconded, but he needs backing. Question is, from who?
remind me which group was supported by Qatar and Turkey? And with whom are the Qaddafi loyalist working with?
haftar is an opportunistic thot that would do anything to seize power in libya, he already sold his country's future just for a shot at being the new supreme leader
read about his history
this nigga is from Langley
remind me which group was supported by Saudi arabia and UAE? And with whom are the US puppets that tried many time to spark this civil war in the 80's and 90's working with?
see, two can play this game
I dont know what you getting at nigga but im asking which group did Qatar and Turkey support? And with whom qaddafi loyalist working with right now? cause I have really have forgotten
/our guy/ or whatever name you prefer, you get the point
In terms of deciding who to support based on a specific country supporting that party, I'd say Belarus is the way to go.
btw your thoughts on this>>187379
Its an interesting read but I dont know much about their internal politics to have an opinion about this. I remember that Xi enacted reforms to downsize the military recently cover for more purging undesired elements? and remvoing the term limit for hte presidential office but nothing more than that. Also there are a few articles* about the detained Interpol chief but no severe reaction at all.
As we should remember, Hafter is and has always been a power grabbing bastard who would stab his own mother for even a sliver of a chance that he could temporary gain control over the lunch timetables for a small school in El Salvador. Although to be honest, he would hardly settle for giving up that power without a fight.
That being said he is /ourguy/ and should be supported because he isn't a retardo dipshit, and the opposition is peak Idlibistan sorts of retardo Sunni infighting, the forces that are allied with him are both relativly unified and based. Also I trust the opinion of Qaddafi loyalists more then the UN and you should too.
stopped reading here
Don't do a Charlie lad.
daily reminder to ignore all flagless posts
daily reminder to ignore all flagless posts and not partaking in mentally ill """people"""'s games
yes and it's painful to watch, but again that's to be expected from a zoomer
hit or miss i guess they never miss han
fuck that the only reason my posts appear as flagless is because
i'm using a proxy, and i wouldn't touch this shit without it
that place is beyond saving
This, desu. I don't remember when I had a meaningful discussion there.
Hence why I never post there ever again.
got a rare pic of ebin going to his job
All I can say is…
he should be doing daily confederacy rising thread
Can't wait to see videos of amerimutts fighting each other over a flatscreen
Same here, its better than pro wrasslin.
france is a funny place
Not sure why namefield was empty.
>>188758>took the effort to tell me that you don't give a fuck
>>188750>Can confirm.>lives in poor man's Tennessee>thinks he's experiencing authentic southern culture
you can shart as much on Alabama as you want, they're still more culturally southern than your knock off state
you're kinda right
but southern culture is more than evangelitards giving all of their surplus income to israeli settlers thinking that it'll make Jesus come back faster
>Hudaydah is quiet
Yup, Sa*di did it again.
How do you know so much about the South anyway?
>>188772>american shocked that people can have so much knowledge about places they don't live in>mfw
but for real answer
i just like learning new stuff
I see. Pretty interesting choice for region of America to learn about>implying you limited yourself to one
Ok Doc, tell me something about my country I don't know ;^)
america and syria are not comparable, you're comparing a country as large as europe to something smaller than most US states
Ye, I know, but it's still strange that I know more about a small country across the world than I do my own.
because you didn't take time to personally educate yourself about it unlike syria. school only gives you the basics (that's even more true for US schools)
all i know, i personally researched it myself, the knowledge i got from school is nothing compared to what I accumulated on my own
i weep for the americans stuck with 19th century social elevator
>>188785>the rest of the world seems more interesting to learn about than America
grass seems always greener on the other side
but don't let /pol/ memes fool you, america has a lot of interesting stuff to learn from
We even had a decent chance of going to the Metric System, but that was halted for some reason.>>188787
Meh, more of my friends are in Europe than America.>be me>one chance at life>not born European
Although I did learn some stuff about Buffalo Bill.
>>188789>more of my friends are in Europe than America.
wtf are they all doing here? trying to go for cheaper universities?>not born European
trust me, you have it better overall
>>188790>Implying any of them are IRL
Doc…>trust me, you have it better overall
Yeah, we've got it better overall, but European people seem more interesting than American people.
how come he doesn't take back golan, is assad a jewish puppet? :^)
>>188792>>Implying any of them are IRL>his only friends are /sg/ friends
D>European people seem more interesting than American people
that i can agree, less jewish brainwashing in their daily lives/upbringing
>>188794>>his only friends are /sg/ friends>implying
I'm not that
bad.>that i can agree, less jewish brainwashing in their daily lives/upbringing
Doc, never forget all the chemicals going into our air, water, and food. It's not just Jewish brainwashing on the tv and in school.
oh yeah i forgot about those /b/ friends from 2016 :^)
umm sweetie it's called 4channel now
red board masterrace.
wait till we get shutdown for spilling too much on blue boards and not generating profits to hiro
And nothing of value was lost!
Jej, this. The other chans could finally get some traffic.
you say that but wait till all the niggers from 4/sg start flooding here
Cool, good thing mods here DO care.
>>188806>niggers from 4/sg start flooding here
And the mods will banhammer them at our request.
anyways gotta go for today
See you around Doc.
>There have been many clashes between US and Russian forces in Syria, not just the February incident in Deir el-Zour, says James Jeffrey, US special envoy for Syria. https://twitter.com/Lucian_Kim/status/1065923861030625280>@NPR correspondent based in Moscow, proud graduate of @ceuhungary
I'm gonna call bullshit on this
Why is part of East Jerusalem green?
I based it off the UN map for Israel/Palestine
I assume the light green is the area controlled by the Pali govt in Ramallah right? Yeah, they don't control any part of West Jerusalem, that part has been directly annexed by Israel. In fact, it might be prudent to shrink the green areas even more. There's 3 main areas in the West Bank, Area A, Area B, and Area C. Area A is under Palestinian administrative and military control. Area B is under Palestinian administration but Israeli military and police control. Area C is under total Israeli administrative and military control and it's where the settlements and shit are.
It appears on your map you have areas A and B as green when it might be more prudent to only have area A green since area B is still under Israeli military control even if the Palis do have administrative autonomy
*don't control any part of East Jerusalem I meant to say, fuck
I still think Aleppo should be a city 'cause the rebels still control a couple of the westernmost districts of the city proper, so having Aleppo city be one big red dot wouldn't be accurate
>>188853>1-2% enemy control means the minimap should remain
Just make it one big dot and have Zahraa be a grey dot (for JaN controL) in the top left of the big red dot. Look at Hasakah on my Syria Shitmap. There's that small red dot in a big yellow ball.
By your logic, Hasakah should've remained a minimap since the Kurds don't control 100% of the city.
btw try this channel if you want to know more about foreign countrieshttps://www.youtube.com/user/GeographyNow
In such case I hope that SAA would actually cross the Euphrates, but…
>>188779>tell me something about my country I don't know
it's a nicer country than what people say about
Kek, this. How Piłsudski used to say
"Naród wspaniały, tylko ludzie kurwy".
Tanf is bugging my autism beyond comprehension…
I will take 500$ for that shit will never happen, Ebin.
Same here. Still shouldn't rule it out, especially if Burger gov't decides it's better to engulf the world in flames rather than give up on the American Empire project.
>>188932> if Burger gov't decides it's better to engulf the world in flames rather than give up on the American Empire project.
how i picture you>yep, this one's going into my "Yankee regime collapse/Confederacy rising again" update list
In-deed. Get ready for Sparkoid's mental gymnastics over it.
>>188984>rebels couldn't produce it so they it must come from assmad's factories, thus freeing them from responsibility>they were only trying to give them a taste of their own medicine so assmad would stop gassing them
No, days without gainz: a lot, volcano clean-up does not count.
>>189068>Did we have any gains this year?
no, see you next year for the same answer
meh we still got yemen and afghanistan for our daily dose
Which map is that?
The main Syrian map even has Damascus as a minimap kek.
EDIT Oh, its the detailed map. I still don't know how to edit those things. I haven't even looked at it in the past year. It's just too disgusting. Those map makers should be ashamed of themselves.
I'll see what I can do.
Should Jordan really be green in this? They seem to be more friendly with Assad now
here's your keyword
the kinglet still is a NATO puppet, just trying to cut his losses
guess we found an answer to the lack of idlib habbenings
Huh, pizdiet hohols had their boat destroyed by ruskies for real or they are again making shit up?
Pics or gtfo, tbh.
that fresh enough for you my nigga?
fsb ramming dem hohols
>>189267>hohols>possesing an ability of abstract thinking
Doctor Doctor, please…
they have reverse intelligence
they subconsciously calculate events to take the worst possible decision
>Supporting c*mmunism nostalgic russians against ukrainians
Nu/sg/ is nu as fuck.
>trying to get it's daily dose here
maghregirl apartheid is still in effect
Fun fact Doc: I can see this retarded government considering this, but it's beyond comprehension. It's fucking dead, Jim. Leave it as it is.
Found on Southfront disqushttps://southfront.org/russia-ukraine-black-sea-military-crisis-on-the-brink-of-war/
Very improtant Info appeared briefly on Russian media (before being scrubbed) that a NATO SADM, possibly a Diver deployable device, was being transported by Ukrainian and British Special Forces to the Kerch Straight to be used on the Crimean bridge. The device was being tracked by the Russians and they knew it had been loaded on to a Ukrainian Tug (escorted by 5 warships!! – 3 in the Black Sea, including one NATO vessel, and 2 waiting in the Sea of Azov).
This is why the Russians acted!
They never react with force and have never blockaded the Sea of Azov. Ground attack jets and Helicopter gunships, plus a warship armed with ASM and Torpedos were waiting.
This level of force would not be used just for a tug and a few old Ukrainian ships. But a tug carrying a tactical nuclear device about to bring down one of the worlds most strategic bridges, a bridge hated by NATO – as per the recent Op Ed in the ‘Washington Examiner’ (Ukraine should bomb the Crimean Bridge).
Ukraine regularly provokes Russia to little effect, but today the Rusians acted to stop a terrible event.
Ukraine is now in panic mode and there may be direct NATO intervention if the to cover this, if the Russians make this public.
The device may have come from the UK.
The UK have been psychologically preparing thier people for a war with Russia.
The SADM explosion would have brought down the bridge and melted the foundations, but looked like a conventional IED blast from above due to the underwater detonation and relatively low yeield of less than 1KT.
This was a WW3 level provocation STOPPED by the Russian FSB and SF’s!
All traces of these reports are being scrubbed as I write!
Get this out before the story is completly scrubbed.
I will not contact you again.
My first instinct is "that's bullshit but I believe it.jpg". My second instinct is pic related.
>>189318>appeared briefly on Russian media
*snap*>(before being scrubbed)
this>to be used on the Crimean bridge
one>to stop a terrible event.
is>but looked like a conventional IED blast
going>This was a WW3 level provocation STOPPED by the Russian FSB and SF’s!
into>All traces of these reports are being scrubbed as I write!
my>Get this out before the story is completly scrubbed.
cringe>I will not contact you again.
tell me why you don't speak french
why isnt urduni being added to this cause?
you asking for the movie at the other place?
well as for >>188551
aside from the bullshit about PTM being the reason for merger of FATA to KPK(the political supporting this movement voted against the merger) its mostly true.
Apologies for the late reply been a bit busy.
>>189456>the political supporting
thanks for the insights
so that means that pashtun are treated like native american/abbos in pakistan?
no matter how hard your life is
remember there is a pole out there considering adopting a jewish name to stop being bullied by his countrymen
I have talked to you before about Pashtuns in Pakistan previously and thats not how they are treated. Thats why I used the word mostly true as there are several caveats to this. The video is talking in particular about the tribal pashtuns of the Fata region(the areas bordering Afghanistan) and is trying to show it as something similar to what you have mentioned. These frontier tribes though loyal to Pakistan, were fiercely independent they would not accept government rule or any development as they asw it encroachment on their land and instead would only accept their jirga system and their customs. So the government made a few alterations to the previous colonial law (it was still shit) and carried on as usual. Before the 2001 there have been several cases of murderers, kidnappers running off to these areas and hiding where the police would not pursue, if somebody with links pushed hard enough or talked to the tribals and made their case to them only then some action would be taken and an arrest made (that is not to say this region was a safe heaven for criminals the tribes did meet out justice regularly, why I tell you this to point out the complex situation of the area how the police had to cater to the tribals for any sort of movement there). Factor in government corruption, political parties playing the tribes, the tribes themselves fucking each other over, the establishment not giving a fuck about it(as far as they were concerned the shit wasnt broke so there was no need to fix it) you get the underdeveloped area as shown. The point about tribals being persecuted by police and the stereotype about them well the liberal thot failed to speak about(or she did and the video didnot include that part) the afghan refugees when they would enter cities and get involved in illegal activities, on getting caught they would try to pass themselves off as the FATA tribals so as not to get deported(the chaps even managed to get fake IDs for this purpose). Thats why the police would be suspicious of such claims be they right or wrong. But the war in 2001 changed everything the appearance of TTP caused the Law enforcement agencies to observe and target any person from the these regions on sligthest of suspicion. When the military started their operations they did went overboard with their execution of it as the situation had become very dire but they did change their approach later by carrying construction and development in the region. But the real progress is the merger bill by this the government services will be extended to the region and proper services would be available (that is if it doesnt eaten away by corruption again).
so it's more like the pakistani chechnya?
you can say that I guess
so what about balochistan? why not doing the same
There are hours where you take the public transport and all you see is germans, other times you take the near empty transportation and all it is 90% occupied with subhumans.
Btw niggers work more than mudshits
Heh, this joke is at least 6 years old. If not older.
if the black guy can't tell the difference between whites and shitskins then he isn't in germany but in usa
>Hey guys. What's Wikipedia's opinion on changing Aleppo from a minimap to a big red dot? I think this would look much better. I mean, the city is 100% controlled by the Syrian government, it's just a few urban areas on the outskirts that aren't, so it makes sense tbqh. Nate Hooper (talk) 8:05 pm, 24 November 2018, last Saturday (3 days ago) (UTC−7)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cities_and_towns_during_the_Syrian_Civil_War
Alright, this is a good start, but you should've mentioned making Zahraa District a grey dot on the top left of the big red dot for Aleppo.
Also, thanks for doing this Nate.
https://liveuamap.com/>Martial law regions are marked>They're almost all majority Russian-speaking regions
Thinki- oh what the fuck does this tired meme matter, we all know Porky's doing this to postpone elections forever.
Wait, shit, I just noticed something. They're all in regions that border Russia, the Black Sea (afraid of seaborne invasion as retaliation or something?), or bordering Russian-occupied Transnistria.>Russian "occupied"
Fuck you, you're missing the point altogether.
It's pretty weird to impose martial law only in those regions and leave the center and west alone unless they're preparing for something that they expect will result in a serious Russian retaliation up to and including an all-out invasion of Ukraine.
But maybe it's just chronic sleeplessness taking serious a toll on me and wishing for major happenings far away from me.
>#BREAK Ukraine’s President @poroshenko tells me that “based on our intelligence information, including those we received from our NATO sources,” Russia is concentrating large numbers of troops along the Ukrainian border. “We have all the evidence of that,” he says.https://twitter.com/camanpour/status/1067498129384124416
If we run this through the Orwellian translator, it becomes>Ukraine is concentrating large numbers of troops along the Russian border. “We have all the evidence of that,” he says.Yes, I'm desperate for Russia to just carve out a big chunk of Ukraine.
>>189640>when every day is tinfoil day
it must be fun living with you
also take some Aripiprazole (ask for abilify, take 15mg/day), it'll help
>>189474>why not doing the same
investing in the region + reconstruction to appease the masses and take away the leverage from the separatists
in other words make them addicted/reliant to the money so they would prefer not to secede
that is already underway the current administration has made its priority to develop these regions first such as providing Balochs their due share in CPEC thats why they are renegotiating those deals as well as inviting more foreign investors e.g. the Saudis will setup a refinery in Gawadar as well as inviting them to exploit the gold and copper reserves in the region while providing jobs to the locals. Its steps in the right direction but its not going to happen over night, its going to take time.
the fuck is happening here?
>Houthis have apparently agreed to hand over Hodeidah port to the UN. Next step is for Houthis to evacuate the city entirely and for UN to hand the operation of the port to the Yemeni government.https://twitter.com/jsiwat/status/1067450973281533952
thanks for the insights
either they know they can't hold it and want it in "neutral" hands or a scheme to cockblock KSA bombings and still run the port with undercover agents
I see and can you give me a quick rundown on the situation in Ukraine?
russia block kerch straight
hohol go in with military boats
they get arrested by fsb and rammed by fsb tugboats
america pls halp
martial law (((coincidentially))) keeping poroshenko in power (because no elections) under the pretext of being a counter measure to a russian invasion (that'll happen any second now guize trust me t. poroshenko)
>Reports that at least one British national was killed in #Taliban attack on #G4S facility in #Kabul this evening https://twitter.com/RisboLensky/status/1067875459696902149
>13 People Killed including a British National & 25+ injured .
Clearing Operation not Ended
Taliban Didn't Announce Death of their Fighters.
Evacuation & Identification Process of DeadBodies ongoing.
G4S Security Co. Confirmed Attack on their Op. Centre.https://twitter.com/DRKNURPAKT1/status/1067881636216414208
>Death toll of Taliban attack on British G4S camp reached to 15 according to official sources & more then 20 injured. However the actual figure could be higher, also the interior ministry did not disclose the nationalities of those killed. The attackers are still fighting.https://twitter.com/Pashtunist/status/1067871121553440769
Honestly, Doc's explanations >>189707
are the only ones I can come up with right now.>>189697
Jej, it is fun.>Aripiprazole
Neat>looks up side effects
It'll fuck me up even more than I'm already fucked up. Besides, it's more fun to be crazy.
>>189725> it's more fun to be crazy.
until they lock you up>oh wait you broke ass country closed such facilities now these crazies are out in the wild voting for legalized sex change and mass immigration
Honestly, I'm one of the more tame psychos out there. I'm only a tinfoil conspiratard.
I legit know a psycho back in AR who once showed up to work with a gun to kill his boss. And once started beating up his friend outta the blue for no apparent reason at all. And he's still out there.>pic may or may not be related.
>>189727>I legit know a psycho back in AR who once showed up to work with a gun to kill his boss
that's not a reason to be considered a psycho tho>And once started beating up his friend outta the blue for no apparent reason at all.
maybe there is a not know reason which would make it not psycho (plus modern work environment are a big factor to having people lose their shit and snap)>pic may or may not be related.
aside from the "seek medical assistance" tip or taking some sedatives (like xanax or valium) i'd say your best bet is to find a real life activity to pace your days (a job or going for a walk/ride in areas in your vicinity that you haven't "explored"/been to or even going to a firing range anything to get you out of your house (or trailer park :^) ))
>>189728>anything to get you out of your house (or trailer park :^)
life in poor man's Tennessee can be boring
rolling in the mud is what they consider entertainment
>>189728>that's not a reason to be considered a psycho tho
Doc, normal people don't show up to work ready to kill people.>maybe there is a not know reason which would make it not psycho
Nah, he's just schizo. From what I'm told by multiple people, it runs in that guy's family.>aside from the "seek medical assistance" tip or taking some sedatives (like xanax or valium) i'd say your best bet is to find a real life activity to pace your days (a job or going for a walk/ride in areas in your vicinity that you haven't "explored"/been to or even going to a firing range anything to get you out of your house (or trailer park :^) ))
Have had a job for several months now, stable housing is another question altogether.
But there is definitely plenty to explore up here in the Rockies ;^)
>>189731>Doc, normal people don't show up to work ready to kill people.
you'd be surprised of the number of people fed up with BS at the workplace wishing to have a gun on their hands
this condition is easily satisfied in USA>stable housing
i know, cardboard isn't all that stable :^)>here in the Rockies
wait AR isn't part of the Rockies last time i checked
>>189733>you'd be surprised of the number of people fed up with BS at the workplace wishing to have a gun on their hands>this condition is easily satisfied in USA
>Be American>Go to work>Get shot>Go to hospital>Get shot again
>i know, cardboard isn't all that stable :^)
Oh, Doc!>wait AR isn't part of the Rockies last time i checked
Mindblowing isn't it? (pic related)
>>189737> It's not like I'm living in the Rockies or anything.
ebin and usb were related all along
also>confederatefag living outside of confederate territory because he knows that the South is too third world to be comfortable
just fuck my regionalism pride up fam
>>189739>ebin and usb were related all along
Wut? He's down in Florida last I checked.>>confederatefag living outside of confederate territory because he knows that the South is too third world to be comfortable>just fuck my regionalism pride up fam
I cheer on the Confederacy. I just choose to cheer them on from afar.
>>189740>Wut? He's down in Florida last I checked.>american reading comprehension skills
he's FROM the rockies and since there's like 3 people in montana the chances of everyone being related is high>I cheer on the Confederacy. I just choose to cheer them on from afar.
do you even have a horse in this race (as in related to this place) or just pure edgyness and muh niggers?
>>189741>>american reading comprehension skills
Doc, I don't spend every free second I get on /sg/ on both sites.>he's FROM the rockies and since there's like 3 people in montana the chances of everyone being related is high>Montana is the only Rocky state
>do you even have a horse in this race (as in related to this place) or just pure edgyness and muh niggers?
Well, honestly, Confederate nationalism if successful enough as to form an independent Confederacy would be a good first step towards reducing the federal government and tremendously cutting back the Empire.
>>189731>plenty to explore up here in the Rockies
Did you move out of Arkansas?>>189740>He's down in Florida last I checked
still am>>189741>he's FROM the rockies
Not really, you might be remembering that I used to live in the Rockies, but I was born in the midwest, my goal is to get back out there in a few years. I spent most of my time in the midwest and northern south, but had some time in the east and far northeast as well
Just remember one thing about me: I am a man with no nation>inb4 fucking edgy>>189746>Did you move out of Arkansas?
Yep, and I hope to not return.>Not really, you might be remembering that I used to live in the Rockies, but I was born in the midwest, my goal is to get back out there in a few years. I spent most of my time in the midwest and northern south, but had some time in the east and far northeast as well
Yeah, I've seen the midwest, well mainly Kansas and Missouri. Beautiful flat countryside>tfw will never see a sunrise rising above the horizon instead of rising above trees/mountains
H-haha… hahahaha. It's not like I wanted to see a real sunrise or anything.>>189747>>189748
Meh, just another night.
explain this shit americanshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_elector
what's the point of elections if you have this retarded loophole
>>189757>when ballot stuffing is too time consuming so you cut the middleman
american efficiency at its best
>>189759>inb4 it's only a parody
Yeah nah, I've talked with post-9/11 vets, it is
these people are the reflection of the society they come from
the source is rooted in the decaying society not only the army (also CIA psychological programs to create more efficient soldiers and thus less human soldiers)
>Syrian Air Defense got active in southern Syria, reports of intercepting hostile projectiles, but no explosions indicating bombs hitting their mark in south Syria. Reports of a projectile falling in the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights, IDF searching.
SyAD getting trigger-happy because an Israeli plane got too close or 100% interception rate in a half-hearted airstrike attempt?
At the late hours of November 29, the Syrian Arab News Agency (SANA) reported that the Syrian Arab Air Defense Forces (SyAADF) have shoot down several unidentified flying objects over the district of al-Kiswah south of the Syrian capital of Damascus.
“Initial reports say that all enemy objects were destroyed and didn’t reach any of their targets,” the SANA said in a short press release.
Local sources told SouthFront that the SyAAD is still launching surface-to-air missiles at flying objects over Damascus and al-Quneitra. Several loud explosions were also heard between the two governorates.
The available information indicate that the Israeli Air Force (IAF) attempt to strike positions of Iranian forces south of Damascus. However, the Syrian and Israeli media are yet to provide more details.
If confirmed, this would be the first Israeli airstrike on Syria since the downing of the Russian Il-20 intelligence plane on September 17. Following the incident, Russia supplied Syria with the S-300 air defense system and an advanced command and control system.https://southfront.org/breaking-syrian-air-defense-forces-shoot-down-enemy-objects-over-damascus/
I hope some big-nose planes got shot down.
oint Statement by Iran, Russia and Turkey on the International Meeting on Syria in Astana, 28-29 November 2018
The Islamic Republic of Iran, the Russian Federation and the Republic of Turkey as guarantors of the Astana format:
1. Reaffirmed their strong commitment to the sovereignty, independence, unity and territorial integrity of the Syrian Arab Republic and to the purposes and principles of the UN Charter;
2. Highlighted that these principles should be universally respected and that any action that might violate them and undermine achievements of the Astana format should be avoided;
3. Rejected all attempts to create new realities on the ground under the pretext of combating terrorism and expressed their determination to stand against separatist agendas aimed at undermining the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Syria as well as the national security of neighboring countries;
4. Discussed the current situation on the ground in Syria, took stock of the recent developments following their last meeting in Sochi on 30-31 July 2018 and underscored their determination to strengthen their trilateral coordination in light of their agreements;
5. Examined in details the situation in the Idlib de-escalation area and reaffirmed their determination to fully implement the Memorandum on Stabilization of the Situation in the Idlib De-escalation Area of 17 September 2018. In this regard they expressed their concern with the ongoing violations of the ceasefire regime, and declared that, as guarantors of the ceasefire regime, they would step up their efforts to ensure observance with it, including by enhancing work of the Joint Iranian-Russian-Turkish Coordination Center. They stressed the importance of a lasting ceasefire while underlining the necessity to continue effective fight against terrorism. They also emphasized that under no circumstances the creation of the above-mentioned de-escalation area should undermine the sovereignty, independence, unity and territorial integrity of the Syrian Arab Republic;
6. Reaffirmed their determination to continue cooperation in order to ultimately eliminate DAESH/ISIL, Nusra Front and all other individuals, groups, undertakings and entities associated with Al-Qaeda or DAESH/ISIL as designated by the UN Security Council. They called upon all armed opposition groups in Syria to completely and immediately dissociate from the above-mentioned terrorist groups;
7. Strongly condemned any use of chemical weapons in Syria and demanded that any reports in this regard should be investigated promptly and professionally in full compliance with the Convention on the Prohibition of the Development, Production, Stockpiling and Use of Chemical Weapons and on Their Destruction and by the OPCW as the main international competent authority to establish use of chemical weapons;
8. Underlined their firm conviction that there could be no military solution to the Syrian conflict and that the conflict could be resolved only through the Syrian-led and Syrian-owned, UN-facilitated political process in line with the UN Security Council resolution 2254;
9. Reaffirmed their determination to step up joint efforts to launch the Constitutional Committee in Geneva, that would enjoy support of the Syrian parties, in accordance with the decisions of the Syrian National Dialogue Congress in Sochi and decided to intensify their consultations on all the levels to finalize its establishment at the soonest possible time;
10. Welcomed the successful development of the "pilot project" within the framework of the Working Group on the release of detainees/abductees and handover of the bodies as well as the identification of missing persons. The release of the detainees on 24 November 2018 constituted a step forward in implementing confidence-building measures between Syrian parties to contribute to the viability of the political process and normalization of the situation on the ground. In this regard they reiterated their commitment to further advance the efforts of the Working group;
11. Emphasized the need to continue all efforts to help all Syrians restore normal and peaceful life as well as alleviate their sufferings. In this regard, they called upon the international community, particularly the United Nations and its humanitarian agencies, to increase their assistance to Syria by providing additional humanitarian aid, restoring humanitarian infrastructure assets, including water and power supply facilities, schools and hospitals;
12. Highlighted the need to create conditions for the safe and voluntary return of refugees and internally displaced persons (IDPs) to their original places of residence in Syria. They reaffirmed their readiness to continue interaction with all relevant parties, including the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) and other specialized international agencies, in particular in the context of rendering assistance to preparing and convening the International conference on Syrian refugees and internally displaced persons (IDPs);
13. Expressed their appreciation to Mr.Staffan de Mistura, the UN Secretary-General Special Envoy on Syria, for his efforts to seek peaceful solution for the Syrian crisis and for his constructive interaction and cooperation with the Astana format during his mission;
14. Expressed their sincere gratitude to the President of the Republic of Kazakhstan, His Excellency Nursultan Nazarbayev and the Kazakh authorities for hosting in Astana the 11th International Meeting on Syria;
15. Decided to hold the next International Meeting on Syria in Astana in early February 2019.
Astana, 29 November 2018http://www.mid.ru/ru/foreign_policy/news/-/asset_publisher/cKNonkJE02Bw/content/id/3424004?p_p_id=101_INSTANCE_cKNonkJE02Bw&_101_INSTANCE_cKNonkJE02Bw_languageId=en_GB
there is no such thing as the "BDR"
you mean BRD
>>189738>Heavy battles in Dasht e Archi as #ANDSF started another attempt to regain the district from insurgents #Kunduz>#Taliban advances in Darah Sof #Samangan>Air strikes in Khogyani and explosion reported in #Jalalabad city #Nangarhar https://twitter.com/RisboLensky/status/1068151472578326534
also official statement released from G4S regarding the tali attack on its base(pic 1)
Details about the attack>1| Taliban released details of attack on British mercenary camp in #Kabul. The attack started with a VBIED detonated by Ahmad Nangarhari (a university student) followed by 4 more fighters surging into the camp. At the time of attack 3 security vehicles were entering the camphttps://twitter.com/Pashtunist/status/1068101649393221632
>2| which were destroyed near the gates & all on board killed. There were about 100 foreigner & more then 150 local personnel & 35 commandos stationed in the camp. The 4 taliban fought for 10 hours inside the camp killing dozens of enemy personnel according to Taliban.https://twitter.com/Pashtunist/status/1068102985773981698
Pics from the base
some spicy footage from the 90's
the reporters seem to be speaking french>https://youtu.be/SBUO_oVrho8>https://youtu.be/PlD1VjeST1o
for me it reminds me of darker times
>>189891>for me it reminds me of darker times>implying the last 17 years were any different or its going to get any better in the future.
also Idlib operation happening or not?
>>189895>>implying the last 17 years were any different
there's one actor that was missing in the 90's and allowed for mutt shitting on all 4 corners of the world unchecked during these 10+ years
now that this actor is recovering we're returning to a more balanced (and thus less likely to be locked in a stalemate) world>also Idlib operation happening or not?
can someone devise me some up to date devs?
they can't, they have an agreement to not close the bosphorus strait to any of the black sea countries in times of peace
How many missiles actually hit?
SAA AA never is 100%.
>>189751>Yep, and I hope to not return
Care to mention which state out of pure curiosity?
ikr? As if any additional personal information could be gleaned from anything we don't already know.
Southernfront doesnt need donations, they get easy money from the Russian Gov.
If you donate to them you are as cucekd as Sander fags with their "Match me!" faggotry
is this a reference lauren thothern milking her beta orbiters with patreon or just a typo?
Ye, and the popup "DONATE SHEKELS" is annoying as well.
you moved from arkansas to arkansas?
I moved from Arkansas to [Redacted]
i want to ask the logic of answer to his question with "arkansas" when you don't want to answer
>>190025>Fine… It's Colorado
huge if true
How so? absolutely not following the convo
its actually a pretty nice state, a bit expensive though, real estate and cost of living trend higher there
Fall for what?>naive
I don't do weed.>>190032
True.>>190035>real estate and cost of living trend higher there>it's literally SF-tier cost of living in places
>>190035>its actually a pretty nice state,
It does, going by random google images
I fucking love snow bros>>190036>I don't do weed.
Neither do I, ebin, neither do i
depends what you mean, we could be talking about tenderloin
Nah. Some of the houses for sale up here go from $3M to $10M.
hope they use bricks in these houses for that price and not some higher quality cardboard
I was in Arkansas this summer, on my way through.
It was only a mildshock after spending a night in the ghost town Memphis having weird inbred seeming southern boys wanna become friends at the hotel pool and Tennesse countryside already showing more and more of redneck southerners.
We onyl stopped once in Arkansas. We stopped at a big supermarket what ever it was called, and had an insanely obese lady cut us 4$ sandwiches with whatever salad, cheese, meat, vegetables and condiments we wanted and every half was a foot long, and like 12 inches high.
It took her near half an hour for three of those because she said they get at most one person a month who actually orders one of the sandwiches so she isn't to quick at making them. Her black delie coworker constantly made jokes at her - in good heart - about her slow speed, always refering to molasses. Bought a couple cans of beans that are cheaper than one can of beans here but five times as large and good.
The checkout lady was some 80 yo granny who was also very slow and told us how she toured the nation when she was young because she could make these incredible dolls. She wore a pin she got from around that time when she was in DC on her vest still.
She had 5 great years but they came quickly to an end and she had to go settle to doing nothing special again once that time in her life faded.
These days she works at the check out register and talks too much to all the members of her church she sees shopping there.
When leaving for our car we saw a rusty, burnt car had parked clsoe to ours with a couple of coons shoutin at each other and one of their friends who was at the gasstation 60 feet from the parking lot. From Memphis through Arkansas, OK, Amarillo was the most surreal palce I have ever been. I haven't felt such a huge culture shock in my life and I have been to multiple third world countries.
In True detective the edgy one once says "this place is like somebody's memory of a town, and the memory is fading. It's like there was never anything here but jungle." And fuck that is accurat for many areas in the south.
Luckily I will get to see that area again this spring when my two mormon friends in OK are getting married. Such an interesting people and area. Id recommend any eurotrash to go visit there instead of LA,SF,DC,NYC,Miami or whatever typical tourist big city.
Yes, I know it's a pasta but fuck it I'll bite.>inb4 not pasta>>190059>It was only a mildshock after spending a night in the ghost town Memphis
NIGGERS>having weird inbred seeming southern boys wanna become friends at the hotel pool and Tennesse countryside already showing more and more of redneck southerners.
Yep, can confirm>We onyl stopped once in Arkansas. We stopped at a big supermarket what ever it was called, and had an insanely obese lady cut us 4$ sandwiches with whatever salad, cheese, meat, vegetables and condiments we wanted and every half was a foot long, and like 12 inches high.
Wew, also yum>t took her near half an hour for three of those because she said they get at most one person a month who actually orders one of the sandwiches so she isn't to quick at making them.
Hah!>Her black delie coworker constantly made jokes at her - in good heart - about her slow speed, always refering to molasses.
Slooooowww as muhlASSes!>Bought a couple cans of beans that are cheaper than one can of beans here but five times as large and good.
Yep, we Southerners are many bad things but you can't fault our food.>The checkout lady was some 80 yo granny who was also very slow and told us how she toured the nation when she was young because she could make these incredible dolls. She wore a pin she got from around that time when she was in DC on her vest still.
Heh, the grannies are always slow at checkout.>She had 5 great years but they came quickly to an end and she had to go settle to doing nothing special again once that time in her life faded.
F>These days she works at the check out register and talks too much to all the members of her church she sees shopping there.
Southern hospitality amirite?>When leaving for our car we saw a rusty, burnt car had parked clsoe to ours with a couple of coons shoutin at each other and one of their friends who was at the gasstation 60 feet from the parking lot.
This happens more than you think.>From Memphis through Arkansas, OK, Amarillo was the most surreal palce I have ever been. I haven't felt such a huge culture shock in my life and I have been to multiple third world countries.
Yeah, I've been to Amarillo. Fucking ghettotown, not a single good place in there. Everything was dirty and run down, with jamals and pacos everywhere.>In True detective the edgy one once says "this place is like somebody's memory of a town, and the memory is fading. It's like there was never anything here but jungle." And fuck that is accurat for many areas in the south.
Yeah, I've always said the South was basically the Jungle of America.>Luckily I will get to see that area again this spring when my two mormon friends in OK are getting married. Such an interesting people and area. Id recommend any eurotrash to go visit there instead of LA,SF,DC,NYC,Miami or whatever typical tourist big city.
Yep! Visit the countryside instead of the cities, you'll see America instead of (((America))).
>>190059>every half was a foot long, and like 12 inches high.
that's not a sandwich, that's a cake
and only 4 dollars for that? no wonder americans are so fat when food is so cheap>Amarillo was the most surreal palce I have ever been. I haven't felt such a huge culture shock in my life and I have been to multiple third world countries.
america is first world in cities only, lots of places in flyover states are in deep poverty and people are trying to survive each month paycheck to paycheck all the while being alienated and looked down arrogantly by richer (more liberal leaning) city people
one must not forget that when he sees these so called "uneducated, violent hillbillies"
>>190061> it's a pasta
See this part: burnt car had parked clsoe to ours with a couple of coons
Native southerner right there, Euros/Yankees don't say "coons" when referring to people.
That's why I say it's a pasta.
>>190064>Euros/Yankees don't say "coons" when referring to people.
now that it's out of the way
you'd be surprised at how much people pick up particular lingo from browsing /pol/ too long
yep, that's why i was doubtful of your statement>>190067
because you're american and you're used to small sentences and small texts so for you big wall of text are associated with copy pasting instead of story telling
as an american said on /pol/
"America is still salvageable, we still CAN change… but we WONT"
yep that's enough blackpill for one day
>>190072>This is the way the world ends>Not with a bang but a whimper.>>190064
It's not pasta. It's genuine.
As to the language I use I would have to become a personailty/name-fag to go into that and I don't want to :)>I disliked Colorado btw
>>190075>It's not pasta. It's genuine.
Yeah, I realized my abhorrent mistake. Sorry Hans.>As to the language I use I would have to become a personailty/name-fag to go into that and I don't want to :)
Jej>>I disliked Colorado btw>Utah>Colorado
Yeah, I'm not really liking Colorado for the same reason I don't like Arkansas: The countryside is beautiful (inb4 Doc disagrees on AR) but the people are shit. However, the people in Colorado are less shit than Arkansas.
How's Utah better anyway?
>>190076>How's Utah better anyway?
Mormons, friend. They are great people. And Utah has a lot of them.
>>190077>Mormons!>Mormons, friend. They are great people. And Utah has a lot of them.
Really? Because I've spoken with a few people that have said Mormons are quite the arrogant condescending judgemental cunts.
Sure. That's true.
But I can also see that they are better people who live more decent lifes.
The only failure in life mormons I hae met are ones who either had parents who fell from the cause or themselves fell off.
Compare that to any fucking other group of people in the world and their arrogance seems pretty well deserved (even if they are boring most of the time; most people are boring).
Ill tell you if you left Utah to the mormons even where you border Nevada you would have the most virtuous, righteous state in America, no comparisson. And not jsut cause so few niggers but also so few of the white niggers.
THey won't work in Europe but in America I can't imagine any better form of (esoteric-)christianity.
>>190080>either had parents who fell from the cause
Yeah, that was par for the course with the ones I was talking about (violent father, indifferent mother).>Ill tell you if you left Utah to the mormons even where you border Nevada you would have the most virtuous, righteous state in America, no comparisson. And not jsut cause so few niggers but also so few of the white niggers.>THey won't work in Europe but in America I can't imagine any better form of (esoteric-)christianity.
Wtf, I'm a Mormon now
But seriously, it's neat that you got to see the real America!
I always thought about properly emmigrating to America; Wyoming, Idaho, Montana, east Washington/Oregon, something like that.
Always still seems like a deafitist attitude though, and I'm not quite there yet.
Such a cool country.
>>190089>Wyoming, Idaho, Montana, east Washington/Oregon, something like that.
Good choice in states.>Always still seems like a deafitist attitude though, and I'm not quite there yet.
It's not defeatist Hans: It's just you moving to a place you want to be at.>Such a cool country.
Yeah, empires are generally cool ;^)
Wyoming, Idaho, Montana, east Washington/Oregon
Ah yes, the most huwhite states in the country. Good taste, anon.
I can foresee a future where Idlib will eventually be divided into areas controlled by the SAA and other areas directly ruled by Turkey, with no real pretence of rebels having any meaningful control - like the situation in Afrin.
HTS and their allies will fight hard but they'll eventually be forced to fight them both - Syria directly and Turkey passively and diplomatically with direct conflict probably only against the SLF, and sporadically at that.
The only question in my mind is what will happen in the long term. Will Turkey annex Northern Syria like they did in Cyprus or will Assad regain control of it all after they get Turkey to concede their land. I'm leaning towards the former at the moment, it seems unlikely that Erdogan will budge, such is the way of the eternal watermelon seller.
>>190080>that they are better people who live more decent lifes.
sure thing mormon hans
guess you earned your namefag nonetheless
>>190146> mormon hans
I'm not even mormon though.
Explain to me one thing, how does a slutty Fox presenter become spokeswoman of the dept. of state instead of a career diplomat (as would happen in normal countries) such as is the case with Heather Nauert? You're not making the fall of the empire softer on yourselves.
I agree. It is clear Turkey is winning atm.
When HTS loses all terrain, the only active non-Kurdish "Syrian resistance" will be controlled and dependent on Turkey.
I doubt king Roach will give back the land unless generous concession are made with regard to the Kurdish question, which seems a distant possibility.
>>190190>You're not making the fall of the empire softer on yourselves.
There are some theories that Trump represents a set of elites that have a different vision for America than what the ruling elites have had for America since the 1960s at the latest - Trump's draining the swamp so he can replace it with his own swamp.
This ruling elite see a unipolar world under America as catastrophic and have therefore set out to dismantle the American Empire brick by brick, and if true, Trump has been acting as a wrecking ball for the Empire, ruining long-standing alliances and agreements thus isolating America further and further and accelerating the transition to the multipolar world despite the resistance of the Deep State.
But I'm mainly talking out of my ass on this once since I don't pay any attention to American/Western politics for one reason - it's all talk talk talk. The news coming out of the east is generally do do do.>>190129>I can foresee a future where Idlib will eventually be divided into areas controlled by the SAA and other areas directly ruled by Turkey, with no real pretence of rebels having any meaningful control - like the situation in Afrin.
Yeah, I'm seeing this coming as well. The big question will be: Who gets Idlib city? I certainly hope the SAA will be able to control the road direct from Aleppo to Nubl/Zahraa.
>The only question in my mind is what will happen in the long term. Will Turkey annex Northern Syria like they did in Cyprus or will Assad regain control of it all after they get Turkey to concede their land. I'm leaning towards the former at the moment, it seems unlikely that Erdogan will budge, such is the way of the eternal watermelon seller.
Erdogan above all else is a survivalist.
Annexing northern Syria after repeated demands by Russia/Iran/Syria to leave and multiple reaffirmations on Turkey's part for Syria's integrity (read: Assad regaining control over 100%
of Syria) would be political suicide, seeing as how the West hates Turkey for moving towards the East (See: the reaction to the S-400 sale, Trump's economic war against Turkey over the summer) and is not known for being forgiving. Erdogan's not one to come back groveling and defeated to the people that fucked him over hard like that - yes, harder than Russia fucked over Turkey after the Su-24 shootdown.
And if he creates a Cyprus-style situation in northern Syria and refuses to leave, he's lost the East for good for as long as he's still in power, leaving him with people that are chaotic and unpredictable (see: Ghaddafi speech about "Any one of you could be next!") - do not think he's not wary of the West given their track record involving people that fall out of their favor, like he has. Especially since the West is trying to create a Kurdish state all along Turkey's southern border leaving the implications that these regions are only a staging ground for a balkanization attempt on Turkey.
With all the support for the Kurds that the West has provided, one thing is certain: The West is the biggest enemy of Turkey and has made plans to balkanize Turkey, and no concessions or extraordinary displays of loyalty by Erdogan will deter the West from this course.
His only real allies are in the East, and alienating them would leave him with the West that wants to balkanize Turkey, since the rest of the MENA nations are East/West split and unlikely to band together on Turkey's side against both blocs.
In short, he cannot afford to lose the East, and they are adamant
about restoring Syria's territorial integrity.
Note: I've only said what he should
do, not what he will
do. Reality may yet throw this wall of text out of the window.
Leaving Syria after "helping fight terrorism" (read: the Kurdish Question) makes him look like the good, calm, pragmatic, civilized ruler - "See, I wasn't helping terrorists all along, they did their own thing out of my control!"; It would boost his prestige across the diplomatic sphere and solidify his standing with the East - which he needs on his side.
Of course, there would have to be significant concessions to Erdogan before he leaves Syria, he's not returning home empty-handed.
is this a pasta?
From the jewish guys at the FDD:
>Uighur jihadist group trains with elite unit
>Earlier last week, Katibat Ghuraba al Turkistan (KGT), a predominantly Uighur jihadist group operating in northwestern Syria, released a run-of-the-mill training video showing its fighters in the Latakia mountains practicing firing drills and maneuvers.
> However, this video took on greater importance yesterday when Malhama Tactical, an elite jihadist unit comprised of well-trained fighters from the North Caucasus and the former Soviet Union, released their own video of KGT’s training.
>Both videos detail the Uighur militants training in basic firing drills, as well as practicing storming buildings. In both videos, pixelated figures are shown instructing the fighters before the training sequences are shown. Malhama’s video confirms that the pixelated men are members of the elite unit. Additionally, tweets from last month from Malhama’s leader, Abu Salman Belarussi, confirm that his men trained KGT as the background of the photos in the tweets match with the videos.https://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2018/11/uighur-jihadist-group-trains-with-elite-unit.php
Haven't been able to find the original source of the videos
you're 18 hours too early
better early than late
also whats up with al Irani and his hate for the waffle people?
belgiab lawgoy made fun of the super stealth jet
al irani is getting back at him for it
I see and what are the protest going on in Paris about?
nothing of value, just run of the mill french protesting across all france
protest about cost of life too high (increase in gas tax was the straw that broke the camel's back) so people are doing non-stop protest asking for macron to resign
MSM going full damage control trying to paint them as far right extremists (even though you have everyone from far left to far right protesting)
seems to be spreading in lelgium tho
>>190402>#Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman arrives in #Algeria on an official visit; he was in #Mauritania prior to that.https://twitter.com/fanazer/status/1069329042111909889
what be happening here?
>>190405>what be happening here?
the periodical french event of rioting is occuring currently.
It will pass as it always does.
nothing, just the usual "let's visit all these countries now that i am in charge" every leader does
I see. Can you tell me about the relations of Algeria with both Iran and KSA? I remember you saying that Algeria maintains a non interference or neutral policy if you will? Have they tried their hands to influence your government in the past?
>Fourth soldier dies from large IED blast in Afghanistan
The Pentagon has identified a fourth casualty from the improvised explosive device that claimed the lives of three special operations troops last week and left three other Americans wounded.
Sgt. Jason Mitchell McClary died Sunday in Landstuhl, Germany, as a result of injuries sustained from the IED blast that occurred Tuesday in Andar district, Ghazni province, Afghanistan.
The incident is under investigation, according to NATO’s Resolute Support mission to train and advise Afghan forces.
McClary, 24, was from Export, Pennsylvania.
He was an infantryman assigned to 1st Battalion, 38th Infantry Regiment, 1st Stryker Brigade Combat Team, 4th Infantry Division, out of Fort Carson, Colorado.
“The Rock battalion expresses its deepest sympathies and condolences to the family and friends tragically affected by the loss of Sgt. Jason McClary. He epitomizes what it is to be a professional, a warrior and a soldier,” Lt. Col. Christopher Roberts, commander of 1st Battalion, 38th Infantry Regiment, said in a statement. “Sgt. McClary served honorably as an up-armored vehicle gunner for the Attack Company. His memory and contributions will never be forgotten.”
McClary had been in Afghanistan since April. Prior to that, he served in Iraq from May 2016 to January 2017.
He had received two Purple Hearts, three Army Commendation Medals, one of which was with Valor, an Army Good Conduct Medal, the Afghanistan Campaign Medal, the Iraq Campaign Medal, the Combat Infantry Badge and the Air Assault Badge.
McClary joined the Army in January 2014, and had been assigned at Fort Carson since October 2017.
Three special operations troops — two Army Green Berets and an Air Force combat controller — were immediately killed when the IED that killed McClary detonated last week.
Four wounded Americans, including three U.S. service members and a civilian contractor, were initially wounded by the detonation.
The wounded were immediately evacuated, following the blast. Resolute Support did not immediately provide a status update on the other three Americans who were wounded.
The IED was reportedly very large. The Taliban’s official spokesman, Zabihullah Mujahid, claimed the detonation completely destroyed a U.S. tank, likely referencing an up-armored Oskosh MAT-V or Mine-Resistant Ambush Protected that the troops would have been riding in.
The blast occurred on the outskirts of Ghazni City, the Taliban said.
McClary’s death raised the total count of U.S. troops killed in action this year to 14. November was the bloodiest month of the year, accounting for five total deaths.
An Army Ranger, Sgt. Leandro Jasso, died of wounds inflicted by small arms fire in western Afghanistan’s Nimroz Province on Nov. 24.
Jasso’s death was likely the result of accidental friendly fire from the Afghan commandos he was accompanying during an assault on al-Qaida positions, Resolute Support said after a preliminary investigation.
Earlier in the month, on Nov. 3, Maj. Brent Taylor, 39, was killed in an insider attack in Kabul.
Taylor was a member of the Utah Army National Guard and also served as the mayor of North Ogden, Utah.https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2018/12/03/fourth-soldier-dies-from-large-ied-blast-in-afghanistan
>>190554>McClary, 24, was from Export
American abroad sent goods sure are deteriorating fast.
New AAN article about the fighting between the Taliban and the Hazara militias recently in Ghazni and Uruzgan province mate
>Taleban Attacks on Khas Uruzgan, Jaghori and Malestan (I): A new and violent push into Hazara areashttps://www.afghanistan-analysts.org/taleban-attacks-on-khas-uruzgan-jaghori-and-malestan-i-a-new-and-violent-push-into-hazara-areas/
>Taleban Attacks on Khas Uruzgan, Jaghori and Malestan (II): A new and violent push into Hazara areashttps://www.afghanistan-analysts.org/taleban-attacks-on-khas-uruzgan-jaghori-and-malestan-ii-a-new-and-violent-push-into-hazara-areas/
and a CTC one
>Allied and Lethal: Islamic State Khorasan’s Network and Organizational Capacity in Afghanistan and Pakistanhttps://ctc.usma.edu/allied-lethal-islamic-state-khorasans-network-organizational-capacity-afghanistan-pakistan/>>189905
>pro Govt. militia is trying to stop #IEA offensive towards Andhkoy. Several CP's were ransacked, while dozens of families escaped villages near Qurghan and SW of Andkhoy due to heavy clashes. Reports that #Taliban are using armory in this attackhttps://twitter.com/RisboLensky/status/1069149847369015297
Kohna Qarghan, Hasanak, Nahdarak, Degchi Khana, Beshaknat & Aimaq Khana areas of Qarghan & Andkhoi district #Faryab cleared as 3 bases & 8 CP overrun, 21 police & militiamen killed/wounded, SUV & sizable amount weapons/equipment seizedhttps://twitter.com/Zabihullah_4/status/1069115793680580609
SDF have entered Hajin, taking Hawama district and securing the hospitalhttps://twitter.com/RadioAlKul/status/1069681464755798020
I bet youre from Melbourne
Most of the jews killed were communist agents.
I see. >>190602
Also, I might have you know that I am not from Melbourne and I strongly support nuking it, as it would make Australia a much better country.
not much they come every now and then under the guise of muh arab world relations but aside from that we have little to no relations with them
although geopolitically we tend to side with the ones against their agenda (syria we stood with them not to be removed from the arab league and are giving diplomatic support to assad, yemen we refused to take part in the bombings or any military intervention unlike muttroccans)
but because we aren't big on the geopolitical scene and we tend to stay purely diplomatic in our interventions (no military help/sending supplies) we aren't a big concern to them so they tend to ignore our doings
we stood with Iran in the past (representing them at the UN when they didn't have a seat) up until the 90's where Iran sided with the rebels during the civil war so our relation became colder and less friendly
as of today it's a mixed bag we have limited relation with them yet tend to side with their agenda (pro SAA, anti israel etc) but don't antagonize them diplomatically like muttrocco does (with their phony claims that muh iran is funding the polisario)
all in all the maghreb is too far away and too small (as in influence wise) to have any horse in race in the ME
thanks for the insight and the video mate.>>190585>Clashes between Govt. forces and #IEA reported in Gurziwan #Faryab
Heavy fighting and air strikes in Jaghuri, Gelan and Nawa #Ghaznihttps://twitter.com/RisboLensky/status/1069989134763200512
>#DeirEzzor/#Hajin: Several #SDF fighters got killed and wounded today after being left alone in the Hawamah area. #SDF fighter says in this video: "The hardships of the SDF fighters after the leaders fled from the battlefield."https://twitter.com/MapsSyria/status/1070031360893554696
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>Violent Clashes Tonight at the vicinity of #Bukamal as #ISIS #Daesh try to infiltrate towards the city.https://twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1/status/1070059984313040898
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>Major General Hassan Mohammed, head of the security and military committee in the area of Abu Kamal says No truth to the news that is being circulated about the infiltration of a group of #ISIS Daesh into the city of #Bukamalhttps://twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1/status/1070062286889455616
>Daesh launches counter-offensive to drive US-backed forces out of their stronghold
BEIRUT, LEBANON (11:00 P.M.) – The Islamic State (ISIS/ISIL/IS/Daesh) launched a counter-offensive this evening in the southeastern countryside of Deir Ezzor after losing a significant amount of territory in the northern part of Hajin.
According to reports from the Deir Ezzor front, Daesh managed to retake several points inside of Hajin that they lost to the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) over the last 24 hours.
However, the extent of their advance is still unknown at this time due to the heavy bombardment of Hajin by the U.S.-led Coalition.
The town of Hajin is believed to be Daesh’s de-facto capital in Syria and Iraq after they lost the cities of Raqqa, Mosul (northwest Iraq), Albukamal, and Mayadeen.
For Daesh, conceding Hajin to the Syrian Democratic Forces would be a devastating blow to their self-proclaimed ‘caliphate’, as its the largest town under their control in the Middle East.https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/daesh-launches-counter-offensive-to-drive-us-backed-forces-out-of-their-stronghold/
>Israeli military claims to have captured ‘Hezbollah operative’
Israeli military forces released footage showing a man inside an alleged tunnel discovered in the area of Metula on Tuesday, who the Israeli military claims is a “Hezbollah operative.”
On Tuesday morning, the Israeli military announced the discovery of what they claim is a network of underground tunnels build by Hezbollah, which reportedly began in the Lebanese area of Kafr Kila and crossed the border into Israel around Metula. https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-israeli-military-claims-to-have-captured-hezbollah-operative-video/
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>Saudi Arabia invites Qatar to Gulf summit on December 9th
Qatar’s emir, Tamim bin Hamad Al Thani, has received an invitation from Saudi Arabia’s King Salman to attend a summit of the Gulf Cooperation Council on Dec. 9, Qatar News Agency said on Tuesday.
Qatar has not confirmed what level of representation it would be sending to the summit yet.https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/saudi-arabia-invites-qatar-to-gulf-summit-on-december-9th/
got a new Syria map in light of the Idlibi infighting?
Hey Pingu, what do you think the future holds for Pakistan?
You've got India to your SE that's aspiring to become a superpower by 2020 by the earliest or 2030 at the latest with Iran lobbying to get India a permanent seat at the UNSC, putting them up there with Russia, China, USA, etc. while leaving Pakistan behind with mainly just nukes to keep yourselves relevant.
Plus, you've also got Iran to the west that's become the de-facto leading regional power in the Middle East to eclipse both Saudi Arabia and Israel, with Turkey being the only ME nation as the counterweight to Iranian power and influence. What do you think Iran-Pakistan relations will look like in the future? And Pakistan-Turkey relations for that matter?
Then there's the Taliban winning in Afghanistan. What happens for Pakistan if all goes superb and the Taliban oust NATO from Afghanistan? Does Pakistan just focus on India in that case since the Afghan thorn in the back of Pakistan is removed?
And Saudi power and influence waning all across the Middle East (look at Yemen for the most glaring example of their decline). What does that bode for Saudi-Pakistan relations?
There's also both countries being in SCO, a political, economic, and military alliance, pitting them against the West, at least on paper. If a hot WWIII broke out, do you think India and Pakistan would ally against a Western aggressor, or would they throw nukes at each others' faces?
>inb4 ">WWIII ever happening"
Any updates on Libya and Yemen?
And in light of recent events, maybe a new Donbass shitmap would be needed
>.@PavloKlimkin talking to media after @NATO meeting with Ukraine and Georgia: we got important message from partners - Ukraine will be member of NATO. #WeAreNATOhttps://twitter.com/Makeiev/status/1069980725359861760
>Ukraine will be member of NATO
No wonder they're so afraid of Russian retaliation. Ukraine's ascent to NATO is crossing a Russian red line.
Expect some fireworks.>>190818
I said "aspiring", I didn't say they "will".>>190815
Libya's a stalemate, same for Yemen.>Donbass Shitmap
It's a jpg basemap lad. The best I can do with it is just draw a frontline.
>>190828>Ukraine will be member of NATO
unless they give up any claim on crimea AND the separatist regions in the east alongside with the rest of nato countries
>>190789>>WWIII ever happening"
Look at US relations against Russia for the last +10 years, and the action they are taking against China now… War has already stared, but a conventional war is not popular nowadays because muh democracy. The economic, cultural and technological war is a fact.
The recent Ukrainian provocation against Russia, just another excuse for US to "react" and the submissive faggots at EU to sanction Russia because muh poor Ukrainian sailors, as if anybody thought sending hohol military to the Crimean bridge was going to happen without consequences…
China and Russia have been more subtle in this war (also less powerful to begin with), specially China with their long-term vision, as they build up their power, but they are obviously are not retarded either. The chinks have control of the supply chain of more than 80% of electronics, and they are planning to have companies that are industry leaders in every strategic sector, which they build up successfully by stealing IP from other companies, state funding and tariffs on foreign products.
Btw I read today the EU wants to promote the euro in international transactions against the dollar. Watch for the next shitstorm on this topic as the lackeys of the US (in and out of EU institutions) boycott this meager attempt to increase European sovereignty.
As if legality was any concern for the US/NATO when invading Iraq and Afghanistan.
However, considering that this is Ukraine and Russia we're dealing with, I'm gonna chalk this one up to Ukrops spouting bullshit.>>190847>Look at US relations against Russia for the last +10 years, and the action they are taking against China now… War has already stared, but a conventional war is not popular nowadays because muh democracy. The economic, cultural and technological war is a fact.
Along these lines, it can even be argued that WWIII began in 1945 and didn't end in 1991
>The recent Ukrainian provocation against Russia, just another excuse for US to "react" and the submissive faggots at EU to sanction Russia because muh poor Ukrainian sailors, as if anybody thought sending hohol military to the Crimean bridge was going to happen without consequences…
Eventually they have to realize that sanctions are doing no good. They didn't do any good in 2014, they're not gonna do any good in 2018, especially since the bulk of Asia is warming up to Russia.
>China and Russia have been more subtle in this war (also less powerful to begin with), specially China with their long-term vision, as they build up their power, but they are obviously are not retarded either. The chinks have control of the supply chain of more than 80% of electronics, and they are planning to have companies that are industry leaders in every strategic sector, which they build up successfully by stealing IP from other companies, state funding and tariffs on foreign products.
Indeed, there is more than one road to victory. American can build up its military all it wants, but China will capture the nation's economy itself.
>Btw I read today the EU wants to promote the euro in international transactions against the dollar. Watch for the next shitstorm on this topic as the lackeys of the US (in and out of EU institutions) boycott this meager attempt to increase European sovereignty.
Another step towards a multipolar world. Would it be right to expect Russia to support this move towards a stronger euro if only to accelerate the transition to the multipolar world?
>>190898>Along these lines, it can even be argued that WWIII began in 1945 and didn't end in 1991
Obviously not "WWIII", but the Cold War. What I'm talking about is a second cold war.
The thing is, there has been plenty of disorganization in US defense and intelligence circles regarding foreign policy. After years of "containing" Russia and focusing on the Middle East, they have allowed China to build up their economic empire, only to go after it with "fire and fury" now that they have realized their mistake. It is probably already too late to stop China with economic means, though.
>Eventually they have to realize that sanctions are doing no good. They didn't do any good in 2014, they're not gonna do any good in 2018, especially since the bulk of Asia is warming up to Russia.
The EU is harming their own economy with sanctions on Russia (the EU wants russian oil/gas, and wants to export to them, the US doesn't need it). I doubt Germany will be happy with it but countries like Poland and the Baltics have wanted this all along.
>Another step towards a multipolar world. Would it be right to expect Russia to support this move towards a stronger euro if only to accelerate the transition to the multipolar world?
As you may know, China and Russia have been trading oil for gold and yuans. They may support it diplomatically given the context (Iran sanctions). The mayor threat to this will be intra-EU infighting.
Who is baking?
Whoever it is, don't use either of these pics>>190223>>186080
Pingu will be pissed and I want to see his reaction, it'll be funny, haha.
what part of>bake next at the other place use pic
makes you think I wanted them used here?
he missed that you wrote that.
He is not the smartest i believe
I read the 080 post and ctrl+F'd "bake" to get the other one, but I didn't read it.
My bad, my bad. No bully pls.
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>>190898>As if legality was any concern for the US/NATO when invading Iraq and Afghanistan.
apples and oranges, we're not talking international law
we're talking conditions to join NATO
if they're not fulfilled then you can't enter otherwise the new member could drag all the other nato members for his territorial dispute