/mlpol/ - My Little Politics

>>91965
Yes, he called them "Jews."

Unlikely.

>>91967
But what about the advanced technology that was at their disposal? Surely it must have been aliens.

>>91968
That's just normal for a homogenous nation that is driven towards a common goal.

Diversity is a weakness.

>>91965
Dude, I don't have any sauce, but there's ALWAYS been ETs. Its not "fling saucers" or w/e, but yeah, this planet has always had "advanced races" operating in the periphery.
Tl;dr Yes, he was.

>>91965
Investigate. Search Corey Goode

If the Big Hitter was being supported by E.T., he wouldn't have made crucial strategic mistakes that cost him the war. Contact may have existed in a purely neutral sense or to support the Allies, but we're essentially grasping at straws without evidence.

>>91974
Uhm,… without going into detail,… take Corey Goode's material with several grains of salt. He's a good guy, but uh,… yeah,… use your own discretion.

>>91965
Yes but they weren't helping him or anybody else. They use this planet for their own gain and would rather be left alone. Some hide in plane sight.

Seriously…

Start here: >>>/vx/750 → an examination of history in parallel with science shows nothing has happened that was beyond the very edge of human secret ability. They do want you to think it was aliens though because that is the cover story. You have been lied to about everything because you must be controlled and manipulated.

Also people with very interesting stories…. ever heard of mind control, hypnosis?

Also have a read of early UFO reports and tell me how "advanced" they aren't.
http://cufos.org/HUMCAT/

>>91988
Go into detail.

Quote:

"My name is Carol Rosin. I am an educator who became the first woman corporate manager of an Aerospace Company, Fairchild Industries. I am a Space and Missile Defense Consultant and have consulted to a number of companies, organizations, and government departments, even the intelligence community. I was a consultant to TRW working on the MX missile, so I was part of that strategy, which turned out to be a role model for how to sell space-based weapons to the public. The MX missile is yet another weapon system that we didn't need.
I founded the Institute for Security and Cooperation in Outer Space, a Washington DC based think tank. I am an author and have testified before Congress and the Presidents Commission on Space.
When I was a Corporate Manager of Fairchild Industries from 1974 through 1977, I met the late Dr. Werner Von Braun."
…
"The strategy that Werner Von Braun taught me was that first the Russians are going to be considered the enemy… Then terrorists would be identified, and that was soon to follow… Then we were going to identify third-world country 'crazies.' We now call them Nations of Concern. But he said that would be the third enemy against whom we would build space-based weapons. The next enemy was asteroids. Now, at this point he kind of chuckled the first time he said it. Asteroids - against asteroids we are going to build space-based weapons. And the funniest one of all was what he called aliens, extraterrestrials."

Testimony of Dr. Carol Rosin - December 2000

Disclosure by Steven Greer (2001).

The Nazi's won and look what it got you.

Angels gave Saint Adolf Hitler weapons from heaven arsenal but it was already to late because the allies and commies already beat them and then they had to retreat to the Antarctica to gather strength, and now there army grows and are preparing for the final war

>>92046
I thought they went to Alderbaran?

>>91988
This: >>92041

>>92041
>>92057
>sigh
For starters, it is an error to envision "aliens" as just being "biological entitites from other planets"; is far more complicated than that. Some "aliens" are from earth from an earlier time/dimension, others from earth at a later time/dimension. There are "aliens" that originate from other planets, but interplanetary travel is excessively resource-consumptive for many/most non-terrestrial (not of earth) life forms. Having said, there are/were many factions with the technological/dispositional capacity to interact with 1930's humans (let alone now) and Germany was among several major political groups that such interactions took place among.
That there were 'non-human' entities interacting with and around the 3rd reich is a not-so closely guarded secret, and evidence of this can be easily discerned by analyzing many of their documents and writings, especially those of an occult nature. There's nothing explicit - you won't read testimonies of "Aliens" walking amongst or participating with the Germans, they had far more refined and respectful terms and descriptions for that sort of thing - but seek and ye shall find.
Weimar under Nazi rule was a particularly significant political establishment amongst human development, and it garnered and enjoyed scrutiny and participation with a variety of factions which are timeless and ever-present. The modern lexicon calls them Aliens or ETs or whatever, but its far more complicated than that. To touch on that, humanity is the new baby of existential and planetary civilizations, and there are older brothers and sisters who have been there throughout. Despite incredible and mind-blowing technological developments, humanity is still playing with lincoln-logs.

But yes, Hitler had a chat or two with "aliens".

>>92065
The internet is a massive MMORPG of belief systems.

>>92067
>Citation
No. I've developed a perception of the subject matter over almost a decade, and I am not one who cares to log or cite sources. Take what makes sense and leave the rest, as Bruce Lee says. As for Cory Goode, our paths have crossed, but he lost me starting with his blue avian spiel.

Corey Goode:
https://spherebeingalliance.com/blog/corey-goode-intel-update-part-1-aug-2016.html

You'll notice the text eventually refers to RA of 'Law of One fame'. http://www.lawofone.info/ RA originally turns up in the 1980s as a channelled being who claims to have made the Egyptian pyramids:

>"Ra: I am Ra. Consider, if you will, the intelligent infinity present in the absorption of livingness and beingness as it becomes codified into intelligent energy, due to the thought impressions of those assisting the living stone into a new shape of beingness. The release and use of intelligent infinity for a brief period begins to absorb all the consecutive or interlocking dimensions, thus offering brief glimpses of those projecting to the material their thought. These beings thus beginning to materialize but not remaining visible. These beings were the thought-form or third-density-visible manifestation of our social memory complex as we offered contact from our intelligent infinity to the intelligent infinity of the stone."

Pic #1, the left bird being is RA.

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The experiences people recall can be fake memories. Contrast the 1957 experience:

>Shortly after this, Boas claimed that he was joined in the room by another humanoid. This one, however, was female, very attractive, and naked. She was the same height as the other beings he had encountered, with a small, pointed chin and large, blue catlike eyes. The hair on her head was long and white (somewhat like platinum blonde) but her underarm and pubic hair were bright red.[6] Boas said he was strongly attracted to the woman, and the two had sexual intercourse. During this act, Boas noted that the female did not kiss him but instead nipped him on the chin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ant%C3%B4nio_Vilas_Boas

with the attachment where it mentions the 1957 event #2

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Politicians might abuse children but they would never abuse the public in the field…

Nazi Germany's alleged first flying saucer flight.

This comes from a book called Das Vril Projekt made in 1992, pic #1, by a small esoteric group in Germany called THG. This information, they claim, comes from sources like Messerschmitt aircraft company archives and secret societies archives.

The pictures #3 and #4 come from their video and is claimed to be photos of the RFZ 1 test flight.

Google translated it says (pic #2) quote:

RFZ 1 and RFZ 2

What to say about the RFZ, that is "Round Flight Tool" which is built from the site of the company Arado in the summer of the year 35, this one must first be seen from the RFZ I from which had already been built before and as such showed itself as a failure, if one wants to see it as an airplane, Exactly, was not.

The RFZ I was already made in June 34. It was an attempt to get the SM drive train flying. The only flying experiment, RFZ I, got about 60 m high, danced in the air for almost five minutes and was then able to land again.

The pilot, Lothar Weiz, was able to jump out before the equipment in the bazaar became more and more powerful like a gyro, thereby breaking the end of RFZ I.

On the other hand, RFZ II was a real flying machine, which one would actually call the first flying aircraft, at least as far as I know of such an RFZ II had an improved SM-Lev engine and impulse control. There was no longer a tailplane of a conventional kind. RFZ II also had a landing device, which could only be exited once. It was necessary to get it on the ground, which only went down from below, and "tension" it.
For the landing, it could then be left out. The starter "prone" from a wooden frame. The three legs of the landing gear looked like tall stilts, which were necessary, as the control had not yet allowed a precise landing and therefore also had to be suitable for uneven terrain. Very unpleasant was the pulpit, which was later converted to a pressurised cabin. Since the SM-engine took up the entire space of the disk body, the turret/cockpit had to be placed on top. The pilot certainly had a kneeling attitude.

The flight performance of RFZ II was very impressive until the control, which allowed only sudden direction changes of 22.5° each.
The reliability of this aircraft was remarkable.
Weighed the problematic control and also probably for other reasons, RFZ II was mothballed to the end of 40. Then the device was revived. Two 2 cm outboard machine guns were installed in panels.

Although RFZ II has remained a single item, it has been used for long-distance reconnaissance flights and has been very well received.

>>92065
>For starters, it is an error to envision "aliens" as just being "biological entitites from other planets"

We have to agree as to the meaning of words to understand each other. Getting to really know the language which one speaks is Very important! The controllers use even words to enslave us "spells". dictionaries are a start, next is etymology. Always use your dictionary.
> Some "aliens" are from earth from an earlier time/dimension…

Plausible, However without verification it is just speculation. Why don't they look like us then?
> There are "aliens" that originate from other planets, but interplanetary travel is excessively resource-consumptive

Maybe for the primitive ones, one also need put in account the ability for other ETs the give them technology, that is if there is a no space law that prohibits them from doing so(like in Star trek). Do you think that in all this time they would not have figured it out?
Don't disbelieve of believe anything you read or hear, but rather try to confirm it, via multiple Scorsese that state the same, or through logical deduction it self. Though the only way to really to confirm the validity of a certain piece of info is to witness it first hand.

>>92071
We are born black. The universe is full of mysteries and it doesn't help that some organization hiding valuable information from us. >Absorb what is useful, discard what is useless and add what is specifically your own.
-Bruce lee
This applies to a goal
if your goal is to learn how to play the piano. according to my understand of Lee's words one should A: peruse to find out by pressing the keys, asking/reading about technique, learning how to play notes, applying what you learn.
This relates to >Absorb what is useful.
B:Discard styles that don't pertain to you. If you're learning jazz, one wouldn't study the classics ie. Mozart, Chopin, Bach ect.
>add what is specifically your own.
Write your own jazz piece.
Now apply this to your goal.
When it comes to information you want to: gather all you can on a certain subject
Use negation to come to a conclusion.

>>92118
Aand >why isn't my text green?

>>92118
>Use negation to come to a conclusion.
I'm not sure if it'll get you to the sooth
but you'll certainly learn something.

>>92112
I'm using the term "alien" for brevity, but what I mean is "non-human entities/species". Alot of non-humans do or have originated from/on Earth, except millennia past, having colonized other worlds and continued to evolve or develop. Other races went the route of technological and/or existential development as a means to travel/explore inter-dimensionally.
>look like us
Many do, either by way of literal appearance, or by way of light/image distortion. There are plenty of places on the planet that have literal non-humans operating quite in the open unbeknownst to most who they interact with/around.
If you're feeling froggy, look up Credo Mutwa.

>>92128
Credo Mutwa, How Curious, will look later.

>>92128
Why does the concept of a blue avian beings faze you? Its not the first time we heard of this.

>>92157
>humans anthropomorphise animals
>proves ETs
I did not mean for is to seem as if I thought like this, pardon me this. Just read the two posts with Lyra in them. Corey elaborated that there is a connection betwixt the Blue Avian beings and ancient Egypt. So Vril you're not familiar with Cosmic Disclosure.

>>92164
Correction:
I did not mean for ((THIS)) to…
>Bad at Typoing

Trust the space brothers, they only want to help you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contactee#Contactees_in_the_UFO_era

>>92154
>blue avians
You misunderstand, I have no issue with the idea of blue avians. it is the man presenting the info for whom I am disappoint.

>>92352
Don't focus on the man focus on the information he is giving, isn't that why we watch?
Also why, he put his life on the line, he almost died even (saw a photo of him in the hospital, Cause: can't recall, but it could have been the controllers trying to silence him).
>>92209
>Trust the space brothers, they only want to help you.
O sure, that why they abduct us right, for to help. Would love to chat about all the wonderful thing the space "brother" did for our benefit but, Corey covers it.
>Space brothers
Those space brothers that look like us I speculate wouldn't harm us, as the other ETs would, mayhap they sympathize.

>>92432
You realise I was sarcastic right? The reason for human looking "space brothers" is because back in the 50's the CIA etc did not yet have all the fake outfits and mind control sorted out yet.


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Later they improved the deceptions to such a high degree that belief in aliens is rife. The aliens are the next psyop on humanity, and you will fall for it because you are stupid and gullible and always looking for new things to bow to.

Won't someone save me so I don't have to??

The "Space Brothers" of 1952 channelled by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Van_Tassel (book attached):

April 25, 1952.
“I am Locktopar, 21st projection, 16th wave, 3rd
sector patrol, realms of Schare. My instructions are
to transmit our greetings and blessings from the Cen-
ter of Blaau. Your free press does not reveal to you
that we have been sighted numerous times; neither
does it inform you of the disastrous effect of this last
play with universal substance. Soon we shall inform
you ourselves. Discontinue.”

22April 27, 1952.
“Greetings. I am Molca, 22nd projection, 3rd
wave, 4th sector patrol, realms of Schare. We have
been directed to advance you certain information
from our Center. We are stationary 72 miles above
your location. Your contact is aboard. Do not be
confused between what you call fireballs, flying
saucers and cigar shaped objects all seen by your
people. Those cigar shaped ships are space ships
from a neighboring planet and as you know, the
fireballs are ships from Blaau. Our so-called saucers
are from Schare. There are three separate checks
being made upon this globe at present. Some of
the cigar-shaped ships are not investigating with
peaceful intent and our investigation concerns them
as much as this globe. We shall keep a close watch
upon them and they know it. Now that your curious
one has bounced around here a while we shall in-
form you that our ships travel by polarized light
direction. Your so—callcd magnetism is one form of
light direction. Now he has discovered our cross-
grain construction through which we maintain direc-
tion. We return your contact before he discovers
how to create our ships. Discontinue."

May 2, 1952.
“Greetings. I am Clatu, 2nd projection, 4th
wave, 3rd sector patrol, realms of Schare. Are you
23prepared for us to alight? We know the orders are
to destroy us, shoot us down if necessary to discover
how we are made. I am instructed to inform you
we cannot be shot down. Your pentagon recently
arrived at a conclusion that we are of a higher in—
telligence; they did not decide, however, that we
also are of a higher authority! They will decide,
that in the very near future. In your next four
months, commencing now, watch the skies, look to
the East.
Rest assured, when we descend we will
not be able to carry on a personal conversation with
most of those in official capacity. We shall land.
Discontinue.”

May 9, 1952.
“Salutations. I am Hulda. Senior in command,
11th projection, 7th wave, realms of Schare. I am
instructed to inform you that the beings of the 4th
sector, Blaau, are returning. Your people shall wit-
ness more fireballs. Discontinue.”

After this message, fireballs were witnessed over
the northwestern states of the United States. The
saucer beings’ reference to Blaau is the name they
give to the sector of the universe that our solar sys-
tem is now moving into.

24May 16, 1952.
“Salutations.
I am identified as Lata, fleet com-
mander, 40th projection, 7th wave, realms of Schare.
Be it known to you that we are combining our efforts
to reach an attunement that will permit us to trans-
mit from Blaau through the Council of the Seven
Lights to you beings here and vice versa. Our fleet
is standing by to complete this contact. Discontinue.”

This message explains that the saucer beings were
assisting us, in our meeting, to reach another vibra-
tory attunement through our regular contact center,
The Council of the Seven Lights.

May 17, 1952.
“Hail, fortunate ones. I am Singha, regional fleet
authority for the entire 45th projection, all waves,
realms of Schare. I am instructed to tell you that
the Center Blaau, Schare and multitudes of other
Centers too numerous to mention are rejoicing to-
night in honor of the contacts that were made with
your group last night. As a reward, my Center has
given me authority to describe vaguely this ship I
command. In your dimensions my, what you would
call flagship, is 300 feet thick and 1500 feet in
diameter. Our crew 7200. Oh, they’re not crowded,
don’t forget, they don’t have to go around each other.
Neither do our ships. Our propulsion is the trans-
mutation of hard light particles into soft light
particles. Let your scientists figure that one out.
Not being fourth dimensional minded they will dis-
count any possibility of such a thing. Let me inform
25you further light does not travel. Light is. The
transmutation of energy through intelligent direc-
tion causes each cosmic particle to hand this energy
called light from one atom to the next. There is no
movement and that which does not move, does not
travel. Our ships are composed of light substance,
indestructible in the material sense, though we can
arrive where we have no further use for the ship and
discharge the atoms composing it. Your few smart
men of science are guessing up this alley now. This
has been a pleasure and I hope to return in the near
future.
Discontinue.”

—end quote—

They have been "assisting us" for 65 years now with no result. How not omnipotent, but we keep waiting.

What else was happening in 1952? Since this has become a bit of a 1952 focused rant:

PROJECT WINTERHAVEN A PROPOSAL FOR JOINT SERVICES RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT CONTRACT by Townsend Brown Foundation:

>RESEARCH ON THE CONTROL OF GRAVITATION:

>In further confirmation of the existing hypothesis, experimental demonstrations actually completed in July 1950, together with subsequent confirmations with improved materials, tend to indicate that a new motive force, useful as a prime mover, has in reality been discovered.

>While the first experiments with new dielectric materials of higher K indicated the presence of a noteworthy foree, the tests were mainly
qualitative and imperfect because of other factors, and the ultimate potential in terms of thrust still remains highly theoretical.

>The behavior of the new motive force nevertheless does appear to be in agreement with the hypothesis that there is an interaction between the electrical field and the gravitational field and that this interaction may be electrically controlled.

Full document attached.

What else happened in 1952?

>“We now know, of course, that in 1952 the CIA had recommended that a certain amount of mischief be introduced into private UFO societies following the wave of UFOs over Washington, D.C., which had compromised national security (or so it was said at the time). The story might have died with a very frightened and silenced Bender were it not for Gray’s explosive and entertaining book about the Bender case, They Knew Too Much About the Flying Saucers.” – The Silver Bridge by Gray Barker (1970).

>“Until the summer of 1952, the CIA had little interest in flying saucers. With the 1952 flap and the Invasion of Washington, however. this changed. On July 29 (the day of General Samiord’s press conference), Ralph L. Clark, Acting Assistant Director for Scientific Intelligence, wrote a memo to the Deputy Director for Intelligence.” – Watch the Skies! by Curtls Pueblos (1994)

and

>On 20 November 1952, Adamski and several friends were in the Colorado Desert near the town of Desert Center, California, when they purportedly saw a large submarine-shaped object hovering in the sky. Believing that the ship was looking for him, Adamski is said to have left his friends and to have headed away from the main road. Shortly afterwards, according to Adamski's accounts, a scout ship made of a type of translucent metal landed close to him, and its pilot, a Venusian called Orthon,[16] disembarked and sought him out. Adamski claimed the people with him also saw the Venusian ship, and several of them later stated they could see Adamski meeting someone in the desert, although from a considerable distance.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Adamski

Now lets look at Adamski and his Venusian space brothers a little further:

>"A 1960 report titled “Electrohydrodynamics,” issued by the Electrokinetics Corporation of Bala Cynwyd, Pennsylvania, presented an idea for a vertical takeoff aero-marine vehicle"
Secrets of Antigravity Propulsion, Tesla, UFOs and Classified Aerospace Technology by LaViolette (2008), which is the 3rd attachment.

and now lets look at Adamski's Venusian craft, attachment #4, source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Adamski

And lastly lets look at one in flight recorded by Adamski in 1965:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fx-_FIo86j0&t=96 (you might need to jump to 1m36s.

There are no ET space brothers just more scams by the government.

>>92549
First attachment didn't work.. fixed.

>>91965
>This thread
There are no such things as aliens, they're just daemons created by Satan. Everything is a lie. The earth was flat.

>>92432
>Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain
No. He had a perfectly good set of information and could have very easily continued to present his information, but no. He slapped his name on it and made the whole thing about him. The info existed before him, will exist after him, but it is by their fruits that you shall know them.
https://youtu.be/NhjSzjoU7OQ

>>92536

> The aliens are the next psyop on humanity, and you will fall for it because you are stupid and gullible and always looking for new things to bow to.
>Won't someone save me so I don't have to??

Those are some dangerous assumptions anent me. Information that is not verified by one's senses is conjecture… Correct me if I'm wrong.

>>92807
Which part?

>>92809
This part.
>and you will fall for it because you are stupid and gullible and always looking for new things to bow to.
>Won't someone save me so I don't have to??

>>92810
>and you will fall for it because you are stupid and gullible
>always looking for new things to bow to.
>Won't someone save me so I don't have to??

>Those are some dangerous assumptions anent me. Information that is not verified by one's senses is conjecture

It's a prediction. So your senses can't see it yet. It's also reverse psychology bait.

>>92811
>It's a prediction. So your senses can't see it yet. It's also reverse psychology bait.
head of this theory before.
IS a prediction not conjecture, still?

>>92811
Is it that by presenting an other worldly threat the new world order, one global government will pursue?

>>92814
Correction:
Heard

>>92816
See >>92045

A study of UFO history shows that UFOs developed from basic crude devices and human looking "aliens". As technology improved beyond normal public understanding it became easier to fool the public into it being actual aliens.

The history of UFOs and aliens is the key to understanding that it is a human hoax.

My speculation is that WWII and the nuclear weapons threat made it obvious that the next World War was a serious existential threat to humanity. So a plan was devised to get full control of humanity, through any means, to make this not happen. Both bad guys and good guys saw benefit in this.

Religion won't work, but aliens might work, it was tested in the early days and people could be fooled, but retroactively looking at those events shows them to be quaint and silly with our modern understandings. The fake aliens have improved their role play since then to very effective levels but they can't undo the now silly looking history of the first scams.

Think of modern aliens as actors with rubber make-up added. Add in some mind control and other classified technology, then go spook some local at 3am. Keep doing this until people "KNOW" aliens are real and the government won't admit it.

>>92827
Understood.
Will need to research.

>>92848
Start here: http://cufos.org/HUMCAT/
You can learn who CUFOS is here: http://cufos.org/
And Hynek here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Allen_Hynek

HUMCAT is a good easy to find/read review of the history of "alien" contact.
Also look at >>>/vx/750 → for my history summary. It is out of date because I keep learning more but the basic pattern is obvious.

>>92849
OK will take a look.