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Greetings /pol/, we are creating this topic as an outreach program from bunkerchan's /leftypol/. Please do not consider this an unfriendly intrusion. Instead, we seek to openly and reasonably share our knowledge about the scientific political weapon that is Marxism. Marxism is a theoretical model that is very effective at understanding power structures, and as such, can and has been used by the anti-capitalist left and the right to further their own political agenda.

Why work with the enemy? Well, we share a lot of common ground, for different reasons, and we believe that if you understood what we are trying to achieve, you too would support us.

The classic example is that of our shared belief in a shadowy minority which controls society. We agree that a small group of people controls government, elections are a sham, and us normal folk have zero power. We seek to take power from the few that control the government now and free us from their reign – of course we differ in that we define this through class and not racial lines.

Another example is the diminishing white population and immigration. We believe that capitalists ravage countries, install corrupt governments, then plunder them, which creates economic refugees. Also, capitalists benefit from cheaper immigrant labor (and can skimp on worker protection laws) so they support immigration. Through Marxism, we can understand that it is unrealistic to create the conditions for economic refugees to exist (carpet bomb all the major cities in a country, for example), and at the same time manage to control undocumented immigration to richer countries, even more so when the people who control the government benefit from this immigration. If we believed in race and wanted to preserve the white race, then applying Marxism shows that immigration won't stop while the powerful groups that controls the US (and its allies) keep creating conditions that cause immigration.

There's two big misconceptions about Marxism that is important to point out now. First off, Marx was the pioneer, but Marxism goes beyond Marx. And second, Marxism does not concern itself with communism as much as you'd think. It is mostly answering the question "How does capitalism work?" and "How does history work". We realize that the pro-worker, pro-communist rhetoric might be off-putting to a lot of people, but it is NOT necessary to share those values in order to reap the benefits of understanding capitalism. Marxism, after all, is a dispassionate mathematical science that comes from the synthesis of great economists like Adam Smith and David Ricardo, placed under the scrutiny of science.

To put it simply, there's a reason that the ruling class spend millions each year to discredit Marxists. If you distrust the mainstream media/economic world, then why trust their propaganda of Marxism? Research the ideas yourself and if you find they are not valuable you can always discard them.

If you're interested in Marxism, there's a lot to choose from and it's a bad idea to give a general recommendation, since it really depends on your tastes. We have a reading materials thread in /leftypol/. Please feel free to pop by and ask for recommendations according to your reading preferences (long dry theory, smaller books, audiobooks, video series, etc).

Anyways, feel free to ask questions relating to Marxism. We would like to progress the dialog along reasoned lines, and we would like to keep the discussion productive – however we are also here to answer questions and perhaps correct any misconceptions about leftism is general. Please consider that a polite and reasoned post is much more likely to get intelligent and informative replies, and vice versa with a dumb shitpost and worthless replies.

For /leftypol/ comrades, please keep answers on topic as much as possible, and avoid shit flinging contests.
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>>243890
>/pol/
/mlpol/, rather.
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>of course we differ in that we define this through class and not racial lines.
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>>243892
Would you be fine with having the exact system we have now, except with all Jews in high positions replaced with white people?
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>>243893
What you're getting at presupposes that the holistic system we have now is not predicated entirely on Jewish influence and subversion.
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>>243894
Jeff Bezos isn't Jewish. Neither is Bill Gates.
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>>243890
What is your opinion on ponies?
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>>243890
>Greetings /pol/, we are creating this topic as an outreach program from bunkerchan's /leftypol/. Please do not consider this an unfriendly intrusion
From my POV anyone is welcome who behaves accordingly (not shitting up the board/not derailing...) and some opposite standpoint may help in gathering insight and knowledge, so welcome

>we define this through class and not racial lines.
I am having some trouble with this statement. Acknowledging the existance of certain atributes does not make it the center of your existance.

Here is a question for you. Can you explain what the difference of communism and marxism is?
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>>243890
As a National Socialist, I agree with your points about Capitalism. The Current power Structure is decadent,So it Must e abolished. I Welcome you to /mlpol/ as long as you keep it civil i'm fine with your thread.

Also are you a tankie?
>>243895
Their puppet masters are.
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>>243896
It varies by poster, but we have some enthusiastic fans among our userbase. Myself included.

>>243897
>I am having some trouble with this statement. Acknowledging the existance of certain atributes does not make it the center of your existance.
We acknowledge that race exists, we just don't think it's an important factor in the interests of groups. A poor black person and a poor white person have far more in common in terms of economic goals than a poor white person and a rich white person.

>Can you explain what the difference of communism and marxism is?
Marxism is an approach to analyzing economics and history, like biochemistry analyzes cells.

Communism is the end-goal desired by Marx and most Marxists: a classless, stateless society.
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Eh, what the hell, I'll bite, give you guys a chance. Couple of queetions for you:

1.) What is your opinion on collectivization, and do you agree with the critizisms most often raised about the policy?

2.) Since you claim you're from /leftypol/, what's the general concensus over there on your participation in the /pol/eague?
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*questions
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>>243898
I'm not a tankie, though there are tankies on /leftypol/. I'm an egoist anarchist.

>>243900
1. Most of us like collectivization. I personally favor unions of egos over them.

2. I have no idea; I don't browse /pol/eague threads.
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>>243902
Can i Get a quick rundown on the "Real Communism has never been tried" thing?
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>>243903
Well, I don't think any society has ever claimed to be successfully communist. The USSR was ruled by the Communist Party, but said they were still in the socialism stage.

The phrase itself is commonly said by people who have only read a little Marx (usually the Manifesto) and when his idea of communism is described, the states in the real world are absolutely nothing like it, so they say "Real communism has never been tried". Communism is the final stage of socialism, and I don't think anyone's even said they got there successfully.
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>>243899
There is no end to the irony of that picture you posted.

But welcome regardless. Do you plan to participate in the other threads on the board as well?
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>>243905
I'm well aware.
>Do you plan to participate in the other threads on the board as well?
I'm not sure. I use 4/mlp/ mostly for my pony needs.

>your pic
Pinkie is pretty clearly an anarchist though
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Also, your "By clicking New Reply, I acknowledge the existence of the Israeli nuclear arsenal" is very neat. It'd be nice to have something like that on /leftypol/.
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>>243908
>It'd be nice to have something like that on /leftypol/.
it's because the left can't meme
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How do you guys feel about unionization?

>>243909
Indeed. We're too busy reading and writing theory.
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>>243907
Well, that is the point of our little group here. The anarchists and fascists team up despite their natural disagreements. We may never get along, but we respect eachother to an extent. Though our anarchists are capitalists are typically capitalists.

>>243910
There is always time to meme. As for unions, they were useful at one point, but now they are a force for the elite to toy with for propaganda more than being helpful to people being overworked by corporations.
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>>243911
>Well, that is the point of our little group here. The anarchists and fascists team up despite their natural disagreements. We may never get along, but we respect eachother to an extent. Though our anarchists are capitalists are typically capitalists.

What made the anarchists here ally with totalitarians? And do you think you'd (or they, if you're a fascist) be able to ally with the left-anarchists against tyranny?
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>>243904
Interseting. i've never read any Marx. Or any other communist literature for that matter.

Why Did you Become an Anarchist? what's so appealing about it to you?
>>243910
>How do you guys feel about unionization?
I Like the Fact that it Hurts the (((Fat Cat bosses))).
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>>243899
>we just don't think it's an important factor in the interests of groups. A poor black person and a poor white person have far more in common in terms of economic goals than a poor white person and a rich white person.
That doesn't diminish the things that divide them and economy isn't everything.

>Marxism is an approach to analyzing economics and history, like biochemistry analyzes cells.
How does it differ from the other ways of analyzing economies? Any books you recommend?

>Communism is the end-goal desired by Marx and most Marxists: a classless, stateless society.
I am not even sure that is something worth pursuing.

So many questions and so little time...
What is your explaination for the constant fall of left regimes?
Where do you draw the line between capitalism and free market economy?
Is there any market economy in the final stages of marxism/communism/socialism?
How can a classless society even exist?
As it seems like the left cares more about groups than induviduals and if that is true how that means the whole system can only exist as long as the people have enough faith in the ideology. How to keep that faith going and what is the way you deal with dissidents?

Damn already forgot half the questions... anyways
>Indeed. We're too busy reading and writing theory.
You should drop that saying. It is arrogant and you know that the most you do if fap and stuff your face just like anyone else.
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>>243912
>What made the anarchists here ally with totalitarians? And do you think you'd (or they, if you're a fascist) be able to ally with the left-anarchists against tyranny?
Here's a meme that says it best.
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>>243912
I contribute it to ponies and driving away shills that don't wish to debate, but rather destroy and divide people. An alligience between our divide is not impossible, but it would be an uphill battle. We disagree on many things, but if you are not here with the intent to destroy this place, then we should be able to get along. Just don't take the heated exchange personally and participate around in other threads to and you will be part of the community in no time, despite being a dirty commie.
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Always good to see some variety to spice things up! I highly recommend watching this video from The Academic Agent (who is a right-wing libertarian) on how we can all find common ground.

Socialists, Conservatives, and Libertarians Can Unite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFGgaxOARBA
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>>243915
Not taking a shot at you or any other /leftypol/ members with this meme.
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>>243913
>Interseting. i've never read any Marx. Or any other communist literature for that matter.
Even if you're the staunchest capitalist on the planet, you should read Capital. It's the best analysis of the system ever written.

>Why Did you Become an Anarchist? what's so appealing about it to you?
I hate authoritarianism of any kind. I was a libertarian, but I eventually came to the depressing realization that even in a libertarian society, we're only one leader away from authoritarianism.

>>243914
>That doesn't diminish the things that divide them and economy isn't everything.
Economy isn't everything, but it's by far the most important factor.
>How does it differ from the other ways of analyzing economies? Any books you recommend?
It looks at economic progression through history. If you're new, start with the Communist Manifesto; it's not very in-depth, but summarizes the ideas in a very short booklet.
>I am not even sure that is something worth pursuing.
Not everyone likes the idea. The bourgeoisie certainly don't, because it means they won't be insanely rich.
>What is your explaination for the constant fall of left regimes?
A combination of the strong-arm types who tend to come into power in any revolution, left or right, and the deliberate subversion by capitalists and their puppet governments (the CIA loves doing this).
>Where do you draw the line between capitalism and free market economy?
Free market economy is what ancaps want. It's "purer" capitalism, but actually less appealing to the ultrarich. They like having a puppet government to make it hard to get started as a new business and to give them tax rebates. The oil industry is a perfect example of this: the government is propping up an industry that would collapse or at least shrink under pure capitalism.
>Is there any market economy in the final stages of marxism/communism/socialism?
Some ideologies on the left like markets, like market socialism and mutualism.
>How can a classless society even exist?
The Manifesto is a good explanation of this. Basically, in antiquity, you had half a dozen classes--rich merchants, priests, nobility, peasants, shopkeepers, and the like. Capitalism has transformed society into having two major classes: the bourgeoisie and the proletariat. There are a few minor ones, like the petty bourgs and the lumpenproles, but the bourgs and the proles are by far the most important ones.
So once the workers own the means of production, you only have one class--the workers. The bourgs now have to work like everybody else.
>As it seems like the left cares more about groups than induviduals and if that is true how that means the whole system can only exist as long as the people have enough faith in the ideology. How to keep that faith going and what is the way you deal with dissidents?
That's true of some aspects of the left. I'm an anarcho-egoist so I care absolutely about the individual. You'd have to talk to a collectivist to find out what they'd answer.
>You should drop that saying. It is arrogant and you know that the most you do if fap and stuff your face just like anyone else.
It may be arrogant, but we do spend a lot of time reading.
>>243915
>>243919
Okay, but that meme seems to confuse radlibs with leftists. The majority of us see issues like race politics as idpol, which we disdain in favor of class analysis.
>>243916
We're here to discuss ideas and make our case. Our ideology is HEAVILY misinterpreted on purpose so it looks horrifying.
>>243918
I'll watch it in a moment.

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>>243910
>How do you guys feel about unionization?
it is the very definition of cultural Marxism because it denies the rights of the worker to freely work and it denies you the ability to get the freedom that you need to be able to work properly without distractions, it completely restricts the freedoms of the person within the workplace or in education, it makes it impossible to express yourself or have the freedom you need to be able to complete you're work properly without distractions
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>>243921
Unionization is collective bargaining by the workers. One worker can be fired for any reason under many contracts. If the union says "If you do that we'll go on strike until you rehire them", they'll be less likely to do that.
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>>243915
>libertarian
>alt-right
>intj
>It's not like I really have a choice anymore.
Pretty much that right there.

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>>243923
How curious. I'm an INTJ.
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>>243920
Thank you for the answers.

>It may be arrogant, but we do spend a lot of time reading.
And you make it sound like the others don't. Drop that shit.
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That is not awfully strange. You just came out on the wrong side with your black and white thinking.
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HUGE TANKIE/COLLECTIVIST/LEFTY MEAN BOI HERE
Questions?

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>>243925
>And you make it sound like the others don't. Drop that shit.
My personal experience, and that of a lot of other comrades visiting 4/pol/, is that most people there don't read theory--either left or right.

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>>243927
Do you support censorship and the removal of people like us off of the internet?
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>>243912
>What made the anarchists here ally with totalitarians? And do you think you'd (or they, if you're a fascist) be able to ally with the left-anarchists against tyranny?
I am not if this is the right one or if it was some other where there is some witness that talks about the myth of low economic freedom in the reich.
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>>243920
>I hate authoritarianism of any kind. I was a libertarian, but I eventually came to the depressing realization that even in a libertarian society, we're only one leader away from authoritarianism.
Authoritarianism isn't all that Bad when you Have a Healthy society.

How would you bring about Equality?
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>>243890
Honestly, watching this thread in its early stages, I'm surprised that things have been kept civil. A pleasent surprise to be sure, but a surprise nontheless. I suppose I should get down to giving you guys the /mlpol/ welcome.

Welcome to /mlpol, have a pony! A couple things to keep in mind: read the Policy Page for the site-wide rules ( https://mlpol.net/policy.html ) and take the time to lurk and immerse yourself in the board culture while you're here: colonization doesn't do anyone any good, even on imageboards. Other than that, as long as you don't try to start shit, you'll do just fine. The same goes for other /leftypol/ Anons who find their way here, though I'm unsure how many will decide to.

>>243910
The idea of unions itself is good, as a group of workers have more influence and power in a workplace than on their own, but all too often unions get co-opted by the state or other interested parties who then dictate to the union members on what they can or can't do, often to the detriment of its members. Ultimately, I'm in support of their existence so long as it's kept in the hands of workers and that being a member is completely voluntary.

>>243912
I don't think there are many of us who would consider themselves totalitarians, especially as it's totalitarianism that we're all fighting against currently. But as to why we're united, it's because we respect each other, and we all recognize there are bigger threats out there than what we individually believe. We will however debate amongst ourselves to refine our ideas and prevent the site from devolving into a hugbox.

>>243902
Alright. What do you think of the critizisms most often levelled at collectivization?
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>>243924

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>>243931
>Authoritarianism isn't all that Bad when you Have a Healthy society.
Doesn't matter what the motivation for stepping on me is. I don't want to be stepped on.
>How would you bring about Equality?
I'm not in favor of total equality. Like I said, I'm an egoist.
>>243933
Read the policy page. Why did you skip rules 1 and 2?
>take the time to lurk and immerse yourself in the board culture while you're here
Of course. I browsed /mlpol/ a long time ago, but haven't posted in years. I was here for the original merger on April Fools.
We're not interested in colonizing or raiding you.
>in favor of voluntary unions
Makes me smile to see that.
>Alright. What do you think of the critizisms most often levelled at collectivization?
I confess I don't know the common ones well, since I don't advocate collectivization myself. What are they?
>>243934
Oh, absolutely. It's total nonsense.
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>>243924
>>243923
>tfw infj
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>>243928
>My personal experience, and that of a lot of other comrades visiting 4/pol/, is that most people there don't read theory--either left or right.
There is a lot to say about that statement but my point is that you are making two (primary) generalizations, the first one being we are all smart and well read and the second being that all the others are dumb and ignorant and as far as I am able to see you have no prove to back that up.
This is arrogant and hurts YOUR cause. There is some data that indicates that a lot of smart people lean left (predominantly in their early years) that doesn't make you smart and even if it would be true that you are well read and can recite passages that doesn't mean you are smart or you are right.
Just learn to meme.
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>>243933
>I don't think there are many of us who would consider themselves totalitarians, especially as it's totalitarianism that we're all fighting against currently.

So you're allied with fascists, yet you're fighting against totalitarianism? You do know what that word means right?
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>>243936
>Why did you skip rules 1 and 2?
Fight Club rules: 1. Do not talk about /mlpol/, and 2. Do NOT talk about /mlpol/, respectively. We dropped the rules sometime between the site's founding and now, but we still keep them around for the meme.

>I confess I don't know the common ones well, since I don't advocate collectivization myself. What are they?
There are two major ones off the top of my head. The first is that it's equivalent to theft and that it's immoral to take someone's personal property away from them without their consent, even if it's for a good cause. The second is that it often leads to nepotism, with the government giving the stolen property away to people loyal to the government over giving it to those with the proper ability to actually use it, like what happened to the Ukraine during Stalin's collectivization policies when the Soviets took farms and farm equipment from the farmers, resulting in a famine.

>>243939
As I understand it, totalitarianism is the government policy of interventionism taken to the extreme, with the state attempting to control every little thing and keep tabs of everything and everyone. I might be wrong with that admittedly vague definition, but as I understand it even the NatSocs among us aren't in favor of the government intervening in places where it shouldn't.
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>>243929
Depends, like here on mlpol/? No, that would be stupid and pointless. However a active group of activists that are opposed to the movement i support or am part of, then yes. How would such censorship be carried out depends on what such activist are doing (sabotage, kidnappings and general terrorism would get killed outright, no gulags for you is not something you'd wanna hear). Tankies like moui don not believe in free speech at all, not because we are totalitarian that want you to shut up and live like shit with no voice or mind to undermine a judeobolshevik overlord. We just don't believe it is reliable, if want to criticise something, some retarded shit will always come and tell you to go fuck yourself, especially if you are attacking the status quo. Can you tell me one instance free speech mattered and changed the world? Because as i see it, if you are an actual agent of change you are bound to be shut down.
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>>243941
>Can you tell me one instance free speech mattered and changed the world? Because as i see it, if you are an actual agent of change you are bound to be shut down.
Karl Marx - The Communist Manifesto
Thomas Paine - Common Sense
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>>243890
Welcome!

>>243933
>We will however debate amongst ourselves to refine our ideas and prevent the site from devolving into a hugbox.
Very much this.

>>243939
In the face of a more terrible force than each other a temporary truce to eradicate (((it))).

I have no doubts afterwards we'll do battle with words, and ideas, or force, and physicality.
Perhaps seeing that foe slain would solve most differences, but I believe the world would be better off even if that isn't the case.
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>>243941
If there was no free speech, you couldn't have had your Marxist texts, your ideas would have been scilenced not by refutation, but by denial of discussing it at all. And seeing that holding Marxist views and proclaiming them is generally excepted, especially in colleges, you benefit from free speech. Being agaist free speech is moronic because this whole thread is using free speech for you to express to us that disagree with you your own point of view.

Free speech has allowed more than any group communists to prosper. I can't wrap my mind around your explaination.
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>>243940
>There are two major ones off the top of my head. The first is that it's equivalent to theft and that it's immoral to take someone's personal property away from them without their consent, even if it's for a good cause.
I don't buy this argument because I don't believe in morality. I heartily recommend reading pic related if you haven't.
>The second is that it often leads to nepotism, with the government giving the stolen property away to people loyal to the government over giving it to those with the proper ability to actually use it, like what happened to the Ukraine during Stalin's collectivization policies when the Soviets took farms and farm equipment from the farmers, resulting in a famine.
This is true, and in my opinion a legitimate issue.
Anonymous
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No.243946
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>>243941
>>243942
There are also more practical observations to be made in the world currently: in countries with no free speech provisions, such as Britian, France, and Germany, having the wrong opinion or saying the wrong thing can result in the police being sent to your doorstep or being thrown in prison. In countries with free speech provisions, like the US, while it's not unheardof to be persecuted for opinions or words, it's far less likely and less widespread, even with a much larger and more active political resistance to the (((establishment))).
Anonymous
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>>243910
>Indeed. We're too busy reading and writing theory.
This. This is why everyone hates you and your dumb ideas. The world doesn't run on theory. Humans are not equal, the world needs classes and hierarchy, and racial distinctions matter much more than class distinctions, this has proven itself time and time again.

The difference between right and left wing is that the right wants to remove the current elites, which are basically just upjumped shopkeepers, and replace them with better elites; ie intelligent and moral men who know how to rule. The left wants to remove the elites and replace them with anarchy, which just creates a power vacuum which will be filled by the first warlord who figures out that he only needs to be stronger than the people he wants to kick around. Stop reading Marxist bullshit and try reading some history and maybe you'll learn something.

Anyway, tl;dr OP is a massive fag and should leave this place immediately.
Anonymous
NzOGk
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No.243948
>>243946
>in countries with no free speech provisions, such as Britian, France, and Germany, having the wrong opinion or saying the wrong thing can result in the police being sent to your doorstep or being thrown in prison
And this is true on the left as well. In some European countries it's illegal to be communist.
Anonymous
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Anonymous
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No.243950
>>243942
I don't know much about the other author, however Marx was persecuted throughout europe until he landed in Britain(a fate worse than death) there he was able develop his theories and analisys of capitalism since it was there where it was born, but under pressure from the State and other political factions, his family suffered under these conditions.
Anonymous
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Anonymous
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Anonymous
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Anonymous
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>>243945
Forgot to add this reply in my last post: I might have to give that a read, if only to broaden my field of view. I personally believe that there is such a thing as morality and "right verses wrong", but I'm not sure there's any value to trying to argue on such an abstract topic.

>>243947
Normally, I'd be in favor of your godly Garfield edits, but I think you might be overreacting just a bit in this instance.
Anonymous
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Anonymous
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No.243956
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>>243947
>Humans are not equal
Correct
>the world needs classes and hierarchy
Incorrect
>and racial distinctions matter much more than class distinctions, this has proven itself time and time again.
Incorrect.
>The difference between right and left wing is that the right wants to remove the current elites, which are basically just upjumped shopkeepers, and replace them with better elites; ie intelligent and moral men who know how to rule. The left wants to remove the elites and replace them with anarchy, which just creates a power vacuum which will be filled by the first warlord who figures out that he only needs to be stronger than the people he wants to kick around.
You're assuming that everyone on the left is an anarchist, which is completely incorrect. Even on /leftypol/, there are at least as many authoritarians as anarchists.
>Stop reading Marxist bullshit and try reading some history and maybe you'll learn something.
I've read history. That's what set me on the path to being a leftist in the first place.
Anonymous
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No.243957
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>>243954
>I think you might be overreacting just a bit in this instance.
I go where I am needed
Anonymous
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No.243958
>>243890
>If we believed in race and wanted to preserve the white race, then applying Marxism shows that immigration won't stop while the powerful groups that controls the US (and its allies) keep creating conditions that cause immigration.
There are three quarters of a billion people that wish to leave for the west right now. Why don't they if immigration "just happens"? What under marxism says that these people can't just waltz past our open borders? is there meaningful border enforcement on our part preventing it? why can't that be extended to all immigrants instead of the merely vast majority of would-be immigrants? Why was it that immigration itself did not begin "just happening" until American policy changed to allow mass immigration? Was America not a rapacious capitalist nation before 1965?
>How do you guys feel about unionization?
Collective action is the only way to get anything done, obviously. But just as obviously the unions dropped the ball,were outmanuevered, and are dieing as a result.
As to the subject of ravaging countries, that is not a hard sell at all, there was no appetite for Venezuela,Syria, NK and now Iran, so we can take solace in the fact that the US empire is grinding to a halt.
>of course we differ in that we define this through class and not racial lines.
Do you have trans-racial solidarity anywhere that isn't defined in opposition to the majority? Bringing back the unions, during their golden age they were just as race conscious as they were class conscious.
Anonymous
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No.243959
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>>243956
>I've read history. That's what set me on the path to being a leftist in the first place.
Then you read it wrong.
Anonymous
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Anonymous
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No.243963
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>>243936
>Doesn't matter what the motivation for stepping on me is. I don't want to be stepped on.
You misunderstand. National Socialism isn't about stepping on the People. It Regards the People Higher than even the state its self. Instead of Class struggle it emphasizes Class Solidarity. through Class solidarity We become Stronger than Any one man could possibly be.

If i were to Read Some leftist literature what would you suggest i start with?
Anonymous
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>>243964
Why benis Garfield?
Anonymous
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Anonymous
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Anonymous
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No.243970
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Communist Manifesto.pdf
>>243947
>>243949
>>243951
>>243952
>>243953
>>243955
>>243957
>>243959
>>243960
>>243961
>>243962
>>243964
>>243965
>>243967
>>243968
So you try to derail threads with a political bent you don't like? I thought truth didn't fear investigation?

>>243963
Start with the Communist Manifesto, attached.

Anonymous
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Anonymous
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No.243972
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>>243967
No time like the present to stock up on Garfield memes. Thanks!
Anonymous
v+mAW
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No.243973
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>>243963
Kapital ideally, but i assume you don't have time for that since it is enourmous soo..
Just lurk on leftypol especially the news and hear what people have to say if you don't want to crack your mind open with the communist bible
Anonymous
xYERQ
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No.243974
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>>243970
I'm derailing this thread because it has no place here. I've had this Marxism vs. Not-Marxism discussion enough times to know it doesn't go anywhere. Those Atheism discussion threads with the Childlike Empress OP images generate less inanity. Shoo. Take your garbage literature and begone.
Anonymous
NzOGk
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No.243975
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Here's our reading list, copied from one of the stickies:

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/index.htm
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1875/gotha/index.htm
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/wage-labour/index.htm
^^^Absolute beginner material^^^
More Marx and Engels:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/index.htm
Lenin
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/
Other Selected Marxists
https://www.marxists.org/archive/selected-marxists.htm
Classical Works Recommended To High-Ranking Cadres
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-8/mswv8_56.htm
Many important books can be found on libgen:
http://gen.lib.rus.ec/
Libcom has some good books/documents:
https://libcom.org/library
Other links:
https://archive.is/L8uFD
Various assortment of historical and biographical works.
https://archive.org/search.php?query=uploader%3A%22kocotosi%40gmail.com%22&sort=-publicdate

>>243974
This the board for political discussion. We're here to discuss politics.
Anonymous
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>>243975

Anonymous
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Anonymous
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>>243973
>go to our site instead
Nah. This site is mlpol. Politics are allowed here. Post your info here or get out.
Anonymous
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Anonymous
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>>243972
Happy to be of service to you, fren.
Anonymous
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No.243983
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>>243966
>>243970
Eh, don't mind him. Derailment is the standard for how we deal with shill threeads, and admittedly sometimes we're a bit triggerhappy. So far, you guys have been alright, so I don't see any reason to try to derail. Filter him if it's bothering you, or report him to see if a mod will step in.
Anonymous
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Anonymous
OQ55g
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No.243985
>>243983
*threads
I swear I'm not drunk, but I've been typing like it today.
Anonymous
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>>243890
Dear OP, I have browsed your homo Bunkerchan at least 5 times, I burnt already 9 IPs when I was banned and all my post were deleted.
I followed your plans to subvert /pol/ from every angle and your fantasy to make the anons to favorably "understand" your judaism. Sorry, but it won't happen.
The only way you would catch my attention is if you begin naming the jew and adopt some kind of jew sacrifice.
Anonymous
NzOGk
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No.243992
244021
Some book troves for your reading pleasure
>/his/ topics
https://mega.nz/#F!dlZlDbqL!TXG5bGvWufONkrQAL7b7jA
https://mega.nz/#F!HbBXzIjC!AjsOUnEGMpcQPrWQG_MdEQ
>lefty material
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:ea25beb379477842994b284c8dabec7154b003de&dn=Leftybooks&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.leechers-paradise.org%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3A80&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.demonii.com%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fexodus.desync.com%3A6969
>general trove of everything, from hard science to survivalism
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:488eb9134190440bbf1e77929754321c85a24c72&dn=The+All-Embracing+Library&tr=udp://tracker.openbittorrent.com:80&tr=udp://open.demonii.com:1337

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Anonymous
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>>243990
just wanted to say you are doing Gods work it is appreciated
Anonymous
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Anonymous
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No.243997
>>243937
INTP ftw
Anonymous
NzOGk
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No.243998
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>>243991
We're not here to subvert, we're here to talk and make our case.
Anonymous
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>>243998
your case is for faggotry
Anonymous
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Anonymous
NzOGk
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No.244005
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>>244001
Our case is for dialectical materialism as a tool to understand capitalism, and the shared desire to bring down the elites.
Anonymous
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Anonymous
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>>243980
Also this.

>>243991
Your sacrifice is immeasurable.
Anonymous
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No.244010
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>>243998
No offense, from what little I've seen you've been quite polite. Having said, you must understand that outside the jews, Stalin in particular and communism in general is principally responsible for the destruction of the reputation, truth, and historical demonization of the Nazis. Simply put, it will take more than a handful of good-natured posts to win over anyone here as to the benefits of maintaining any lasting dialogue.
You've got my vote though for now
Anonymous
xYERQ
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No.244012
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Anonymous
2i8te
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No.244013
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>>244005
doesnt matter when the previous owner of leftypol was a disgusting cock sucking tranny, you will bring that here whether you want to or not
Anonymous
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No.244014
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Anonymous
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No.244016
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Anonymous
NzOGk
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No.244017
>>244010
Another big factor in the demonization of the Nazis was neoliberalism/neoconservatism. Same with the demonization of communism.

>>244013
Previous BO got ousted for being tyrannical.
Anonymous
BLp5U
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No.244018
>>244010
pretty good post imo
Anonymous
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Anonymous
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Anonymous
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No.244021
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This right here? This is the reason why we can't have nice things.

>>243992
Assuming you guys haven't been completely run off, I suppose since you've been offering reading material, it would be a good idea for you guys to head over here and read some of what other Anons have posted, get a better sense of what we (or at least some of us) believe: >>179533 →
Anonymous
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No.244022
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>>243973
>if you don't want to crack your mind open with the communist bible
>crack your mind open
>communist bible

Lord have mercy, OP. This shit isn't mindblowing, it isn't edgy, it isn't fresh. You can probably pick up an abridged copy at Hot Topic. Disney is coming out with a TV adaptation. Comes with a free book cover for your Social Studies textbook, all you have to do is write in. And you belong on a cross upside down for comparing that bloviating overglorified doorstop to the word of God.

I'm with Garfield anon, this has been hashed and rehashed to the point that it makes a man sore to see it even humored.
Anonymous
NzOGk
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No.244023
>>244021
I'll be sure and check it out. I look forward to reading some of your literature.
Anonymous
xYERQ
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No.244024
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>>244021
Yes, and be sure to check out the works of Jim Davis.
Anonymous
xYERQ
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No.244025
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Anonymous
NzOGk
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No.244026
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>>244022
Capital is really, really hard to read. That's what he was talking about with "cracking your mind open".
Anonymous
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>>244007
So if politics are allowed here, why do you like someone flooding a political thread?
Anonymous
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Anonymous
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No.244039
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>>243944
I don't think you understood me, i'm sorry if i came off as "combative".
>your ideas would have been scilenced not by refutation, but by denial of discussing it at all.
Anon, this happens more often than you think.
Think with me here, are we truly in a "free speech" enviroment? Or are we at the whim of some mods and retarded anons hovering over us judging what is "good bantz" and "bad bantz"?
How many good threads have been anchored or just deleted because some jannie was a faggot? This isn't free speech, this thing that we are having right now isn't free speech, it is you as a group being a good host, you don't need this particular concept in order to be civil, maybe people in pre industrial highly religious times/places need it, but not us.
There is alot to cover still as to why i reject some enlightment, but i believe this is good start
Anonymous
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No.244040
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>>244026
I'm well aware how dry and soul-numbing it is. I've gotten halfway through the damned thing at least 3 times. One time I even made it 5/8ths. Go sell this shit to Charlie Kirk. I'm not buying, you filthy communist fuck.
Anonymous
D0V9+
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No.244041
244044 244048
>>244033
When its warranted, its rather amusing IMO. I haven't seen any evidence of its necessity yet, so for once I am in opposition. Please, carry on.
Anonymous
FTRpT
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No.244042
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>>244021
Speaking of reading, and a general overview.

Check out the problematic (((people))) thread.
>>221829 →
Anonymous
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No.244043
244044
>>244026
Although I do apologize for getting you two mixed up, that was an error on my part.
Anonymous
NzOGk
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No.244044
>>244040
I'm not a commie, I'm an anarchist. I don't like the commune telling me what to do.

>>244043
No worries, it happens.

>>244041
>When its warranted, its rather amusing
Agreed.

>>244042
I'll do so.
Anonymous
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No.244045
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>>243999
>>244000
>OP's faggotry
Can't argue against those digits.
Anonymous
ohOMJ
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No.244046
244052
>>243890
>Another example is the diminishing white population and immigration. [... economic refugees ...] applying Marxism shows that immigration won't stop while the powerful groups that controls the US (and its allies) keep creating conditions that cause immigration.
Do you really need a theoretical framework to explain why people move from regions that are poor to ones that are rich? We don't need an explanation for why people move from the countryside into cities - it's obvious that it's because "jobs and opportunities". Why would we need one for countries? It works just the same way, parts of the world that were early to industrialize took off due to network effects and became prosperous.

The retort that comes to mind is that this does not need explaining and it's just a way to justify a label of "refugees". Also, poor countries manage to install corruption just fine by themselves.

That said, the world is full of examples (Iraq and Libya come to mind) of "the west" fucking with other parts of the world for economic reasons.
Anonymous
qIUeK
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No.244047
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>>244022
I'm.... sorry? I am not trying to be edgy,also i don't get the first half of your post, are you talking "cultural marxism"? We can discuss that if you want
Anonymous
OQ55g
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No.244048
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>>244041
This. There's nothing better than watching a Zald thread get obliterated because of penis Garfield edits. In this case, however, I find it just annoying.
Anonymous
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>>243998
Just name the jew.
Repent from your apostasy.
Recognize that judaism is the root of all evil, then we can begin to understand each other.

Anonymous
QZ7DU
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No.244050
244074
>>244039
No need to appologize for combativeness, which there was none to begin with. As for the rest, this is free speech, otherwise it would have been terminated on sight like you treated >>243991. Our site staff is very fair as shown by allowing you to post here and freely debate. You are free to say what you want as long as you aren't damaging the site. This is the recognized principle of free speech. The value is upheld when we host you, knowing that you probably have no real interest in us, given that >>244033 keeps replying to me saying that you are here to make a case and not be a part of our community. It is necessary to allow for changing of minds and meeting new people that are not in our established group already.
Anonymous
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>>244048
What's Zald?

>>244049
There are many rich Jews, yes, but that doesn't mean them being Jews is the problem. If they were all rich white Christians or rich asian Taoists they'd still be fucking us over.
Anonymous
ohOMJ
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No.244052
244056
>>244046
*fucking with other parts of the world for economic reasons, when it would have been better for everyone involved to just leave things alone.
Anonymous
D0V9+
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No.244053
>>244051
An unironic faggot who occasionally comes to cause disruptions for no apparent reason. Don't concern yourself with that.
Anonymous
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No.244054
244056
>>244033
I view it as a biological system honed, and primed to remove negative outside forces.
'Surviving' the first section means you actually have an invested interest here. Something meaningful to say, also it tests your disposition.
I may, or may not be making all this up on the fly.
Anonymous
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No.244055
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>>244047
The only conversation to be had with Marxists come a' calling at this point is whether they would prefer a ditch or an oven if the time comes.
Anonymous
NzOGk
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No.244056
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>>244052
It's modern day imperialism. Starting wars for profit.

>>244054
We're here to have genuine discussion.

>>244055
Why's that? You want the elites gone, and so do we.
Anonymous
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No.244058
>>244051
An El Goblino shill who pops up from time to time to try to shit up the site using Undertale porn. You can pick out his threads like a sore thumb when they come out, and not too long after you have Anons calling his faggotry out and derailing his threads with penis Garfield edits or, even better, horsepussy. It's the greatest thing to watch or participate on the site, everyong joining forces to BTFO Zald.
Anonymous
dsQQF
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No.244059
244060
uyvyufli.png
on-the-jews-their-lies.jpg
>>244051
>but that doesn't mean them being Jews is the problem
>B-but not all jews are like that
>there are good jews

Anonymous
NzOGk
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No.244060
244062 244067 244068 244069
>>244059
What I'm saying is that it doesn't matter that they're Jews. Would you be happier if they were white Christians instead?
Anonymous
2i8te
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No.244061
>>244051
jew denial is a sign of retardation
Anonymous
dsQQF
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No.244062
244063
KbLM4D9.gif
>>244060
Don't spin it any longer.
Say it out loud.
-"The kikes are our misfortune, and a solution is due."
Say it faggot and demonstrate your honesty.

Anonymous
NzOGk
?
No.244063
244064 244065 244069 244438
>>244062
The rich are our misfortune, and a solution is due.
After all, Bezos and Gates aren't Jewish.
Anonymous
D0V9+
?
No.244064
>>244063
No, just zionists
Anonymous
dsQQF
?
No.244065
244066
>>244063
All the elite will be gutted faggot, including their supporting golems.

Anonymous
NzOGk
?
No.244066
244072 244237 244438
>>244065
I approve strongly of bringing down the elites. What do you mean by "supporting golems"?
Anonymous
OQ55g
?
No.244067
244071
>>244060
What a lot of us would get at is that the reason the elites are in their current position is that they are Jews. Would you agree with that position, or do you believe there's something eclipsing their race which allowed them to get that power in the first place?
Anonymous
qTyaZ
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No.244068
244071
1559013057681.jpg
>>244060
We live in a judaised world, you cannot divorce any one factor from it. Bill Gates not being a kike doesn't mean that the world and culture going back decades upon decades isn't kiked, and to pretend that his ilk would be able to have the ramifications that they do currently if authoritarian traditionalist racialists were in charge is just being a silly filly. A fish doesn't have to be a puffer to be poisonous if its whole environment is a toxic lake that has been cultivated and steered to that state by puffers.
Anonymous
4Yjbp
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No.244069
244071
good goy.jpg
>>243998
>We're not here to subvert, we're here to talk and make our case.
the very fact that you are here means that you wish to distract us from what we are doing and that we should listen to you instead of you listening to us and that you are trying to make us believe Marxists are good despite you're ideology's coming from a jew who had connections to the Rothschild's or that you are not the enemy
>>244033
because you're whole political ideology was created by a jew and has destroyed every nation that it has got it's hands on
>>244051
but the jew is on average the most richest person demographically, so if you got rid of the jew nearly half of the worlds richest people would be completely gone
>>244060
yes they would probably not want destroy the people because if they were a jew they would be trying to destroy our nation and it's people, jews are the people who want to destroy all of us

and if you refuse to talk about the jew we will not be able to come to agreements, there is no other way because if you do not understand the jew we have nothing of great value to talk about
>>244063
they are Zionists but if they were a rich white guy, who wasn't supporting the jew, i would be more okay with it
Anonymous
NzOGk
?
No.244071
244073 244076 244078 244081 244085 244438
>>244067
>What a lot of us would get at is that the reason the elites are in their current position is that they are Jews.
I agree that there's ethnic nepotism for sure, if that's what you're talking about.

>>244068
> Bill Gates not being a kike doesn't mean that the world and culture going back decades upon decades isn't kiked, and to pretend that his ilk would be able to have the ramifications that they do currently if authoritarian traditionalist racialists were in charge is just being a silly filly.
So you think in an authoritarian traditionalist racialist society, you won't have these insanely rich tech magnates?

>>244069
>the very fact that you are here means that you wish to distract us from what we are doing and that we should listen to you instead of you listening to us and that you are trying to make us believe Marxists are good despite you're ideology's coming from a jew who had connections to the Rothschild's or that you are not the enemy
That's an ad hominim. Philosophies should be judged on their own merit, not on their creators.
>because you're whole political ideology was created by a jew and has destroyed every nation that it has got it's hands on
Because capitalism has a major interest in making competitors fail.
>but the jew is on average the most richest person demographically, so if you got rid of the jew nearly half of the worlds richest people would be completely gone
This is true.
>yes they would probably not want destroy the people because if they were a jew they would be trying to destroy our nation and it's people, jews are the people who want to destroy all of us
>and if you refuse to talk about the jew we will not be able to come to agreements, there is no other way because if you do not understand the jew we have nothing of great value to talk about
What do you think motivates them, then? Hatred of you?
We tend to see the rich's motivation as class interest: staying rich and getting richer.
Anonymous
dsQQF
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No.244072
File (hide): 67878E35D1C6B589DB22F923965E0631-2744780.webm (2.6 MB, Resolution:328x240 Length:00:02:33, Kai Murros - On Hate.webm) [play once] [loop]
Kai Murros - On Hate.webm
>>244066
>What do you mean by "supporting golems"?
You'll find out sooner than late.
Anonymous
QZ7DU
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No.244073
244079
>>244071
One look at twitter confirms they run on hatred of white people. Anyone can see this just by searching for people talking about white people. Hardly a positive thing to say. They hate us.
Anonymous
2Tl8R
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No.244074
244077
>>244050
It is true that i have no interest in joining your base, i am only here to make my case over what the anarchist has to say to give contrast.
I am not sure >>243991 did to get banned this many times, but more often than not people who are banned on bunkerchan are likely to have broken some rule but i'm not sure tis a chan after all.
>otherwise it would have been terminated on sight
I would have been fine with that since i understand our ideological gap is rather large, your aversion to us is as understandable as our aversion to you.
>Our site staff is very fair as shown by allowing you to post here and freely debate. You are free to say what you want as long as you aren't damaging the site.
And i am gratefull, however you must recognise that you are being "allowed" to say things here not just able. I don't believe in free speech due to the conditions the world has systematically imposed upon us, it is a good thing guide your internal behaviour compass around but that does not make it real.
Anonymous
4Yjbp
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No.244076
244079
>>244071
>What do you think motivates them, then? Hatred of you?
yes, exactly
the fact that i am a nationalist and white totally goes against his beliefs and his end goal, his end goal is the death of our people and i am in his way of fulfilling that goal
Anonymous
QZ7DU
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No.244077
244105
>>244074
It doesn't matter if it is real. I am asking if you support it as a concept. If we both spoke at a town square, which of us should be thrown out of town before saying a word, if either of us?
Anonymous
OQ55g
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No.244078
244079
>>244071
That's a start, yeah. Almost all of us believe that Jewish people look out for each other over any other races, which runs parallel to how you believe rich people look out for each over any other class. It's why we believe they managed to get so much money and power to the detriment of everyone else in the first place. It's why when you look at a list of politicians and executives, otherwise collectively known as the elites, there's an overabundance of Jews or people who support the Jews.
Anonymous
NzOGk
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No.244079
244082 244083 244088 244098 244109
>>244073
The rich thrive on stirring up conflict between the proles. That's why they fund idpol movements like feminism, and are terrified of worker movements. Occupy Wall Street was infiltrated by the CIA who injected the "progressive stack" idea into it to turn it from a class movement to an idpol one.

They want to keep the poor at each others' throats so they don't realize who's robbing them.

>>244076
Then why do the Feds spend so much more time subverting worker movements than nationalism? This isn't rhetorical; I'm genuinely interested in your response.

>>244078
I agree with that. I think most ethnicities look out for each other over other groups. The ingroup/outgroup dichotomy dates back to our ancient past when we were just tribes on the savanna.
Anonymous
ohOMJ
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No.244080
244084
>>244056
>Starting wars for profit.
Not the main thrust of those posts, but sure, some people have been profiting from war.
I'd still like to hear why Occam's Razor doesn't apply, and why there is a need for a theory here other than simply observing that some parts of the world got rich earlier than others did. (Yes, I know you'll probably say "they got rich through imperialism", but I believe you'd agree that's not the only way to prosper. So why assume it?)
Anonymous
qTyaZ
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No.244081
244084
>>244071
So you think in an authoritarian traditionalist racialist society, you won't have these insanely rich tech magnates?

I speak for myself here. In my ideal, class would still exist. Those of the richer classes like the Krupp family (of which in our day there are effectively zero) who were not opposed to the interests of the nation would be able to continue in being wealthy, but antagonistic and threatening sectors (like all of Silicon Valley) would basically be nationalized and their captains liquidated. I don't like obscene wealth, but I also agree with the value of competition on certain levels so long as it is healthy for the nation, id est the people. My people. Class and capitalism can remain indefinitely so long as they are kept in harmony with the entire system. The Jew will absolutely have to go, regardless of anything else.
Anonymous
dsQQF
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No.244082
244086
4924049403ac3d.jpg
>>244079
>The rich thrive on stirring up conflict between the proles.
>The rich
Ahem. You meant the jew.
Anonymous
2i8te
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No.244083
>>244079
the proles are never jews
Anonymous
NzOGk
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No.244084
244093 244095 244438
>>244080
Sorry, I was distracted when I wrote my reply to that post.

Some parts of the world got rich earlier, yes. The theory explains how the system of capitalism we currently live in became so dominant over all the other systems of economics.

>>244081
Alright, thank you for explaining.
>The Jew will absolutely have to go, regardless of anything else.
Are you in favor of wholesale extermination, or do you prefer the Madagascar Plan/creation of an Israel?
Anonymous
qTyaZ
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No.244085
>>244071
>So you think in an authoritarian traditionalist racialist society, you won't have these insanely rich tech magnates?

Sorry, I've been drinking a wee bit and forgot to quote your statement
Anonymous
NzOGk
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No.244086
244087 244095 244438
>>244082
I mean the rich. Many are Jewish, but by no means all. And the rich whites, Asians, blacks, and the rest don't get a pass just because they're not Jewish.
Anonymous
dsQQF
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No.244087
244090 244091
In 1917 the first legislative act passed by the bolsheviks was the Antisemitism Act.jpg
>>244086
Better remove your mask, communism is judaism.
Face it.

Anonymous
OQ55g
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No.244088
244091
>>244079
I think we both came to the same conclusion, just through different means, and it's those means that we're arguing about. You came to the conclusion through class, we came to the conclusion through race, but they're both more or less the same group of people.
Anonymous
xhaVV
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No.244089
244091
You know what really grinds my gears, all the record holders for communist genocide are communists...
Anonymous
D0V9+
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No.244090
244099
>>244087
I'm surprised it took this long for anon to mention it
Anonymous
NzOGk
?
No.244091
244094 244096 244438
>>244087
>system dedicated to the end of the rich
>all about worker power and overthrowing the elites
>jewish
lmao
>>244088
Pretty close to it, yeah. That's why I made this thread. We all agree that the elites need to be removed.
>>244089
Stalin was pretty darn close to nazbol, but yeah.
Anonymous
ohOMJ
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No.244093
>>244084
>Sorry, I was distracted
Yes, I realize right after posting just how busy the thread has been. I shouldn't have assumed anything.
Anonymous
2i8te
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No.244094
244097 244102
>>244091
you absolutely cannot deny the heavy jewish influence into communism, and you cannot deny the heavy jewish influence in the death of the west as a whole
Anonymous
qTyaZ
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No.244095
244102 244107
>>244086
I can agree with this. Play kike games, win kike prizes.

>>244084
>Are you in favor of wholesale extermination, or do you prefer the Madagascar Plan/creation of an Israel?

I would prefer extermination, but I would settle for deportation to Israel and the end of all military and financial support. Maybe even funnel a portion to the moslems and let them make an end of it, discounting the Saudi animals. American military might to be used to prevent the interference of any third party, at least from coming to Israel's aid. If they want to sign on with the sand heebs then that's fine.
Anonymous
6ig3X
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No.244096
244102
>>244091
>all about worker power and overthrowing the elites
It's interesting that this is a goal that never comes to fruition because the elites/jews never give up their power and never progress beyond authoritarian socialism.
Anonymous
xhaVV
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No.244097
244098 244100
>>244094
Nah I've seen antisemitic party's pushing communism fucking hard (labour in UK).
Anonymous
4Yjbp
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No.244098
244100
>>244079
>Then why do the Feds spend so much more time subverting worker movements than nationalism?
because they work for the rich jewish globalists, the workers themselves are white because most of the workers are white so the feds primary goal is to deny the freedoms of the white man and by being a nationalist i am a enemy of them, if let's say i went out and tried becoming a football player and then on my social media account if i had one i said that there is a lot of black players inside of french football i would be completely stripped of all of my wealth and earnings, because i posed a threat to the jew and his world of evil
>>244097
this
look at Jeremy Corbyn
Anonymous
dsQQF
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No.244099
244103
Laughing - When somebody tells me it's not the Jews.png
>>244090
I just came home.
But this thread is fun. The judaism masquerading as socialism and communism is off the chart.
Anonymous
QZ7DU
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No.244100
>>244097
>>244098
Same people say we can't be free to post anti-semetic memes. It's lip service.
Anonymous
NzOGk
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No.244102
244104 244106 244110 244438
>>244094
>you absolutely cannot deny the heavy jewish influence into communism
Many of the theorists are of Jewish descent, yes, though they were usually atheists.
Marx talks about something sort of related: why a bourgie like him would develop communism. He calls it self-interest well understood, I believe. He can see the revolution coming and would rather not get gulag'd so joins it out of practical reasons.
>and you cannot deny the heavy jewish influence in the death of the west as a whole
What do you mean by the death of the West? The West has insane power. Only very recently did China start to approach America in power.
>>244095
It's nice to know some of you guys see the problem with rich non-Jews.
>prefer extermination
I personally think that's a less practical decision for a variety of reasons down the road. People looking back on history tend to see extermination in a much, much darker light than deportation. How many people know about the Jewish tribes Muhammad evicted, for example?
>>244096
That is the unfortunate reality, and why I am not a socialist, but instead an anarchist. You're swapping one set of elites with another when you have vanguardism (see: Starlight Glimmer).

Anonymous
qTyaZ
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No.244103
244107
1559525493774.png
>>244099
It is pretty good, it's like having a kabbalah missionary turn up on your porch and try to convince you that you should fight together against the wahabbists.
Anonymous
2i8te
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No.244104
244107 244114
>>244102
jewish is not only a religion, it is a race, and the death of the west is not in terms of sheer power, its the death of culture and community
Anonymous
9IVxb
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No.244105
244111
>>244077
My problem with it is a practical one, i don't really care for concepts that aren't helpful to the development of the physical world, but if what you are saying is that if i "ideally" support the idea of two individuals just having a discussion in order to extract information rather than "win" the sure i do.
Anonymous
qTyaZ
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No.244106
244108
>>244102
>Many of the theorists are of Jewish descent, yes, though they were usually atheists.

You done fucked up, boyo.
Anonymous
NzOGk
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No.244107
244117
>>244103
So you're saying I'm shilling Judaism? But here >>244095 you say you agree with me?
I'm confused.
>>244104
>jewish is not only a religion, it is a race
Ah, you were talking about the ethnicity. Yeah.
>the death of culture and community
That's what capitalism does, sadly. It grinds away everything that makes up a culture or a community in favor of one, naked relation: profit.
You really should read the pdf I linked here. It explains the cause of the destruction of Western culture: >>243970

Anonymous
NzOGk
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No.244108
244119
>>244106
Hm? What do you mean?
Anonymous
FTRpT
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No.244109
244118
1538398634742.jpg
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>>244079
I wish it ain't so, but life likes to take people raw.
Anonymous
4Yjbp
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No.244110
244112 244118
>>244102
>What do you mean by the death of the West? The West has insane power. Only very recently did China start to approach America in power.
the west's power is jewish power but the death of the west is culturally and racially, by the year 2050 we will be in the minority in our own country's, inside of London and Paris the white race is inside the minority and by the year 2119, our race will be completely eradicated, there will be very small amounts of white people in the world, if any.
Anonymous
QZ7DU
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No.244111
244127
>>244105
Talking is communication, needed to develop the physical world. So, you would say you disavow deplatforming someone debating in favor of nationalism? White nationalism?
Anonymous
4Yjbp
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No.244112
244118
>>244110
*inside of London and Paris the white race is already inside the minority
Anonymous
/4WVU
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No.244113
244118 244133
>>243890
Intresting keep forgetting you lot had stakes in 8/pol/ too. What do you think of it being taken down? Overall net gain or less?

Also as a former communist (tankie) who's done a lot over ideological soul searching what are you?
Anonymous
dsQQF
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No.244114
244116
File (hide): 3F8E9FB24FED1CB5E64DC8DBE6DFEF12-18383891.mp4 (17.5 MB, Resolution:640x360 Length:00:05:11, From out of the Past.mp4) [play once] [loop]
From out of the Past.mp4
>>244104
>jewish is not only a religion, it is a race
And the devil's children.

Video attached:
A reminder of the evil ideology OP wants to push on us and the truly puppet masters behing.

TsJp7
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No.244115
244122
kys leftypol

Anonymous
dsQQF
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No.244116
>>244114
*behind
Anonymous
qTyaZ
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No.244117
244118
>>244107
Oh, it wasn't a perfect parallel. I see Marxism as an intrinsically Jewish ideology, so while there's some overlap in who would be swept up in our respective nets (all Jews and abusive rich goyim profiting off Jewish culture and control in mine, and all rich be they Jewish or not in yours) you're still shilling Judaism. You might be representative of a branch of Jewish thought that may or may not be fully under their control, but you're still driving in a Jewish car.
Anonymous
NzOGk
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No.244118
244122 244123 244128 244132
>>244109
Indeed. Remember: if voting made a difference, they wouldn't let us do it.

>>244110
>>244112
Mass immigration's primary cause is economic factors. Fix those economic factors, and you won't have mass immigration.

>>244113
I personally think it's a loss. Not sure how others feel, but it was definitely good for bunkerchan.

>>244113
I'm an anarcho-egoist.

>>244117
How is it intrinsically Jewish to want to tear down the rich? If my ideology succeeded, none of them would be rich.
Anonymous
qTyaZ
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No.244119
244120
>>244108
Representing Jews as merely members of a religious group and not their own racial group is a meme. It's the oldest canard in the book.

Anonymous
NzOGk
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No.244120
>>244119
Jews are both an ethnicity and a religion. Since some anons in this thread were referring to Judaism, I thought their problem was the religion.
Anonymous
B7yk3
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No.244121
244122
367085.jpg
Don't be so hostile with seriousposters you wheenies
Don't make me talk trash about your waifu
Anonymous
QZ7DU
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No.244122
244124 244125 244131
Aesthetics.jpg
>>244115
Based.
>>244118
Because your ideology always leaves a Starlight Glimmer and a group of jews that are untouchable. Every time.
>>244121
Not Applejack!
Anonymous
/4WVU
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No.244123
244126 244130 244135 244153
>>244118
>anarcho-egoist
Interesting, keep forgetting the dialect in which those who are left wing use make subdivision so... Well specif. Honestly its something I wish the right had more often since more often then not we have a lot of hard LARPing because of how general our dialect forces us.

Still I see the angry at Jew crew has come into the thread. As a word of warning this board has become infested by national socialists as of late, I think it was due to 8/pol/ dying. They are sorta annoying but I'd love to talk theory since its one thing that most right wingers don't have a good understanding of.
Anonymous
NzOGk
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No.244124
244131 244134
>>244122
>Because your ideology always leaves a Starlight Glimmer and a group of jews that are untouchable. Every time.
You're thinking of socialism, which I don't subscribe to. I'm an anarchist. I don't think we should have a vanguard party (a Starlight), or even a socialist state at all.

Anonymous
B7yk3
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No.244125
244134
1165119.png
>>244122
I know it's a trick for me to smack talk apple hoers but I am smarter than that
Anonymous
NzOGk
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No.244126
244129
>>244123
>this board has become infested by national socialists as of late
Were they not here before?
Anonymous
9IVxb
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No.244127
244134
>>244111
I am in favor of deplatforming since i believe the merit of an ideal stands on how much it can handle being surpressed among other more fundamental things. As for talking/communication being important... i mean sure just like breathing but that doesn't make it a debate or a discussion, which i should point out that i also don't believe either to be that useful since it all devolves into a spectacle no different from TV and Cinema
Anonymous
4Yjbp
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No.244128
244130
>>244118
>Mass immigration's primary cause is economic factors. Fix those economic factors, and you won't have mass immigration.
no, the jew is the one that caused the death of the west, you never see anyone saying they are happy with immigration other than jews and other races, if there was no jews in the west there would be no death of our people, there would be no white child being raped by a muslim, we wouldn't be here talking about the death of our people
Anonymous
/4WVU
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No.244129
>>244126
They were and there were a few specif annoying ones, but I've been here so long and visit so regularly I usually can point out who is who. There has been an increase to some degree since a lot of posters now I do not recognize by the way they either form their posts or generally make arguments/talk about news, ect.
Anonymous
NzOGk
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No.244130
244134 244139 244142 244148
>only leftypol guys here are a Stirnerite and a tankie
We may not be representing our board well. Apologies.

>>244128
The fixing of economic factors implies that rich people, including Jews, won't have the money to control media or governments.

>>244123
It's true, there are a LOT of types of leftists.
Must be confusing to have everyone from Strasserites to Evolaists calling themselves fascists.
Anonymous
OQ55g
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No.244131
244136
>>244122
>>244124
This. When the Reds took over Russia, they replaced the Russian nobility with Jewish chairmen. There were still elites, but after the revolution they went from being Russian to being Jewish. I know you're an anarchist, but it is still an issue to recognise within many socialist ideologies.
Anonymous
XweDm
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No.244132
244136
>>244118
>Mass immigration's primary cause is economic factors. Fix those economic factors, and you won't have mass immigration.
Well, this is technically true. If Europe were as poor as Africa, no one would want to leave Africa to go live in Europe, and this is why immigration to the US went down slightly in the Obama years. But in the way in which I think you meant this, I think you have the wrong perspective. I assume you want Africa to be as wealthy as Europe. But the reason poorer countries are poor is mostly not because they would be rich, but something bad happened to make them poor, it’s because not having wealth is the default state of the universe, and so it takes a lot of effort and tine to make wealth. It’s not so much that Africa got unlucky and became poor, as that Europe managed to get lucky and had the conditions to build wealth. Maybe in time what worked in Europe can be applied to build wealth in Africa and other such places. Obviously there is hell of a lot more going on here, but the basic point is the same. A nation doesn’t have to try to be poor, in just the sane way an individual doesn’t have to try to have no money. They are poor until something makes them have wealth, and while wealth can be lost or prevented from accruing, more often it just wasn’t there to begin with.

>get rid of the rich
Is there a particular reason you wouldn’t prefer for every individual to be rich?
Anonymous
9IVxb
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No.244133
244148
>>244113
I personally believe it was a net loss for the internet as a whole although watching 8/pol and it's colonies getting cucked was hilarious.
Also what are you soulsearching for my fellow tank?
Anonymous
QZ7DU
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No.244134
244137 244138
>>244124
When the lack of state has people that refuse to give to each other for the common good, what happens?
>>244125
D'awwwwww.
>>244127
Ok... so you believe in deplatforming and you don't believe in debate or discussion. So... why are you here?
>>244130
>We may not be representing our board well. Apologies.
That's why it is a much better experience.
Anonymous
dsQQF
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No.244135
58882079806.png
>>244123
>As a word of warning this board has become infested by national socialists as of late
Damn those evil nazis.

Anonymous
NzOGk
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No.244136
244143
>>244131
The existence of a vanguard party is a HUGE problem. So many theorists have struggled to figure out a solution.

>>244132
I want Africa to be as wealthy as Europe, yes. I think that's possible, it just requires getting rid of the insane excesses of the bourgeoisie.

>Is there a particular reason you wouldn’t prefer for every individual to be rich?
I would. There aren't enough resources right now for that to be possible. but once we reach fully automated post scarcity space communism (i.e., star trek), it's definitely the ideal state.

And to clarify, when I say "get rid of the rich" I don't mean kill them. I mean take their property. Once you remove the wealth from the wealthy, they're no longer a threat.


Anonymous
9IVxb
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No.244137
244140 244143
>>244134
To gather as much as i can understand whatever this place thinks, i am not here to convince anyone. I'm here because i could was curious.
Anonymous
NzOGk
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No.244138
244143
>>244134
>When the lack of state has people that refuse to give to each other for the common good, what happens?
That's where the different types of anarchists diverge.
Ancoms say it's taken by force and redistributed by the workers. Syndicalists say the union takes it. Mutualists say anyone can take anything that's not being used, so no one can hoard more than they can use. Me? I think ideas like property rights are essentially ghosts in the mind that keep us from consciously acting in our self-interest.
If you want to understand my philosophy more (and it's a weird one), I recommend reading this pdf: >>243945

Anonymous
qTyaZ
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No.244139
244141
>>244130
>Must be confusing to have everyone from Strasserites to Evolaists calling themselves fascists.

Meh, it's not really so bad. I think you lot get goofier with that kind of thing, probably because you can afford to do so in public. I remember an old Dan Carlin snippet where he made the point that prior to the Bolshevik revolution, being a leftist was like a custom job, and every one could be an ideology unto themselves. Little bit of this, little bit of that, slap one of these on there, and voila, I'm x. He compared the dawn of the Bolsheviks to kind of like having a Pope turn up, and if you wanted to be taken seriously as a leftist (as seriously as a leftist can be taken, anyway) and receive any support you had to toe the party line to an extent. Kind of like an ideological bottleneck.
Anonymous
dsQQF
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No.244140
244144
nazi_pony-Aryanne-2093489.png
>>244137
>i am not here to convince anyone
Yeah, right.

Anonymous
NzOGk
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No.244141
244145
>>244139
You had a lot of leftists falling in line with the Bolsheviks, but a lot of others broke off. Stalin was REALLY divisive. His supporters who stayed faithful after all the purges and democide (not genocide) eventually became known as tankies.
Anonymous
B7yk3
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No.244142
244146 244149 244150
69672587_534758767262978_4655771667287506944_n.jpg
>>244130
>>only leftypol guys here are a Stirnerite and a tankie
>We may not be representing our board well. Apologies.

Oh don't worry you are doing a better job than them
Bat'ko and the board owner made the site a shithole
They are so pussified that they would avoid 4chan all togheter because some poster said nigger or whatever and claim how 4chan was this radlib paradise where chapotraphouse would come and give rimjobs to each other instead of the house of shitposting that it always was even though the it's happening man was popular as well and they would still be shitposting about black people

I really hate what the only tolerable leftie place became such a memehole because the users and mods were too fucking autistic to keep it togheter

Bunker chan is dead and shit as well and 90% of get content is just the leftytrash thread which is just straight up a by the numbers tranny discord

Last time I checked they were talking about sucking a dog cock and erping

Only good lefty place is funny enough the unofficial discord where you are allowed to have fun and shit talk Israel

Anonymous
QZ7DU
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No.244143
244150 244155
>>244137
Well, that is an interesting take. What are you gathering?
>>244136
>wanting niggers to be rich
But what would they do with it?
>>244138
So, factions would form. And there would be leaders emerge from those factions as the battle of ideas forms spokespersons for those ideologies... sounding like a Glimmer scenario.
Anonymous
9IVxb
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No.244144
244159
>>244140
I there a problem?
Anonymous
qTyaZ
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No.244145
244150 244151 244159
>>244141
I'm an ex-Communist-Stalinist. I was a teenager/20 something and I wasn't born with the redpill on my tongue. I know the term. How much Lenin have you read? Old boy put a lot of ink down. The term kulak just flitted into my alcohol-soaked mind.

Anyway, please come home, white man. Presuming that you are white, of course.
Anonymous
9IVxb
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No.244146
244159
>>244142
You say this as if you can't shit talk Israel in bunkerchan....
Anonymous
/4WVU
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No.244148
serveimage.png
>>244130
Honestly its not as confusing, the well defined groups makes things a lot more clear to a degree. Problem is it encourages LARPing. Like why do people consider themselves national socialists when generally speaking it is much more similar to fascism while evolites consider themselves fascists? It has more to do with power at the end of the day and which movement's optical methods you liked most which as I said encourages hard core LARPing, which is one thing I've become sick of being on the right wing as formerly being a leftist.

>>244133
>Also what are you soulsearching for my fellow tank?
It'd be a hell of a long post if your open to listening. Its lead me to circle around the politcal compass if that is a decent measure of policy (its bad at most else but whatever.)
Anonymous
qTyaZ
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No.244149
244159
Do50q6eX0AA4FyN.jpg
>>244142
>discord

For the love of God
Anonymous
NzOGk
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No.244150
244154 244156
>>244142
The 8/leftypol/ BO got ousted for being such a fag. Bunkerchan's actually alive now that 8/leftypol/ is down, and radlibs are near-universally decried.
Use /leftypol/ on bunkerchan, not the leftytrash thread.
>>244143
>But what would they do with it?
I'd say build a functional society, but I have a feeling you won't take that seriously. Then consider this: much of the warring there is due to lack of food, resources, etc. With access to better food and medicine, it'll be more peaceful.

>So, factions would form. And there would be leaders emerge from those factions as the battle of ideas forms spokespersons for those ideologies… sounding like a Glimmer scenario.
You'd have different anarchist types, yeah, but they'd probably just set up camp in different regions and leave each other alone after that.

>>244145
Haven't read that much Lenin. Mostly read Marx and the anarchists.
Anonymous
9IVxb
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No.244151
244152 244179
>>244145
I am asian, korean to be exact.
Also anybody that self proclaims to be Stalinist doesn't really understand what communism is all about generally speaking, i am also not well read having most of my knowledge from people telling me their beliefs and understandings of reality through Youtube, School and some Books
Anonymous
dsQQF
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No.244152
244154 244158
>>244151
>I am asian, korean to be exact
And... when are you going back to your people?
Anonymous
6ig3X
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No.244153
244165
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>>244123
>As a word of warning this board has become infested by national socialists as of late
We were primarily national socialist from the start, why the fuck do you think Aryanne is our mascot?
Anonymous
QZ7DU
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No.244154
244157 244160 244163
>>244150
I'm looking for that webm of the chink telling the nigger he had it all and he let the society he was given fall to ruin. Any anons out there got it?

Well, even if in a perfect world where we can make them rich, it wouldn't end the war because, just like the Injuns which lived of the land in muh harmony, are inclined to kill each other because they don't like each other.
>>244152
Deport Brazilian Koreans!
Anonymous
9IVxb
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No.244155
>>244143
I like to scavenge for information that is available easily, also i enjoy politics and explaining myself. This is just me entertaining myself
Anonymous
OQ55g
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No.244156
244163
>>244150
Actually, that's a good statement to lead into a question: what's your view on humanitarian aid sent to places like Africa? Is it ultimately a help or a hinderance?
Anonymous
dsQQF
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No.244157
244162
>>244154
>Deport Brazilian Koreans!
You see?
What the fuck an asian is doing in South America?
Anonymous
9IVxb
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No.244158
244161
>>244152
Brazil is my people
Anonymous
B7yk3
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No.244159
244173 244179
large-2.png
>>244144
Yes
There is not enough hoers to balance it with politics

>>244145
Was he a good writter?
Considering how everyone sucks the farts outta his writing
I've seen snips but never read anything of him completely

>>244146
You can but the leftypol userbase became horrid

The amount of people defending the thots during metoo was eyeopening, how they would white Knight people greedy of fame and fortune saying they were still working class and shit like that

If you are not absolutely repulsed to come close to anything that's pol-ish and actually have a talk with us you are already better than 99% of the people there

The amount of things that they left or bailed out or disowned because some pollack said nigger made me disgusted as well, like they were never really passionate about something or if they were they just gave it up all, like the Spartans leaving their babies for having a deformity

Disgusts me every time

>>244149
Don't worry anon I am not an usual user
I am mostly there to get updates about things I am interested in and because my friends won't stop dragging me there

May I offer a toast in exchange for your forgiveness
Anonymous
oohVq
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No.244160
244166 244171
File (hide): 391EF1E301EFA3D61E801C194C112921-2246899.webm (2.1 MB, Resolution:640x360 Length:00:01:12, it's just so tiring.webm) [play once] [loop]
it's just so tiring.webm
>>244154
>I'm looking for that webm of the chink telling the nigger he had it all and he let the society he was given fall to ruin. Any anons out there got it?
Anonymous
dsQQF
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No.244161
244164
>>244158
It's not.
Only European, mestizos and assorted niggers belong to Brazil. You have no place there and the sooner you realize it, the better.
Anonymous
9IVxb
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No.244162
>>244157
Anon don't you know? There was a migration in the 80's since the economy was rather shite.
Same goes for the Japs, we have a lot of them
Anonymous
NzOGk
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No.244163
244171 244174
>>244154
I know the webm you're tlaking about, but don't have it.
>Well, even if in a perfect world where we can make them rich, it wouldn't end the war because, just like the Injuns which lived of the land in muh harmony, are inclined to kill each other because they don't like each other.
That was the case between the French and the English for a while. As civilizations advance, they usually soften their tribal conflicts.

>>244156
In its current incarnation? It can help sometimes, but it's fundamentally a bandaid on the problem even in the best of cases.
Anonymous
9IVxb
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No.244164
244167
>>244161
Ahhh man if only you knew
Anonymous
/4WVU
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No.244165
244168 244169 244174
K09RXRL.png
>>244153
Yes, I'm talking about the no fun allowed type.
Anonymous
dsQQF
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No.244166
244170
>>244160
I have it full, but is deep inside some folder, it could take days to find it. Sorry.
Anonymous
XweDm
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No.244167
244181
>>244164
What would you classify yourself as ideologically? I’m sorry if that’s been asked and answers, but it would be buried
Anonymous
NzOGk
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No.244168
244172
>>244165
No fun allowed type vs...?
Anonymous
dsQQF
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No.244169
244172
Jew pretending to be a Gentile - This is You.png
>>244165
You are not from around here.
NatSocs are fun by design, except when Jews crush the party.
Anonymous
oohVq
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No.244170
>>244166
>I have it full, but is deep inside some folder, it could take days to find it. sorry.
no worry's

Anonymous
QZ7DU
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No.244171
244175 244178
>>244160
Thanks anon.
>>244163
Why does it take all these other races so damn long to advance compared to whites?
Anonymous
/4WVU
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No.244172
244176
f83.gif
>>244168
Those open to talking and like shitposting/memeing/can take criticism without taking it personally or resorting to calling everyone a shill.
>>244169
Right, I can name when rules 1 and 2 were up, and what rule 10 was, and used to post in art threads when they were very active. Also no, your post proves my point.

(user has post history going back at least a year)
Anonymous
9IVxb
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No.244173
244182 244190
>>244159
Disgust this disgust that
Listen i have had my fair share of disapointments with leftypol but having your standards this high for a chan board is a little much, also most of the time leftypol goes retard it takes about a month for it to go back to normal.
Anonymous
6ig3X
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No.244174
244177
>>244163
I'd say it'd be more useful to teach the africans skills they need to build up on their own rather than give them products directly. Teach a man to fish and all that. As it is we're giving them food directly despite the fact that many parts of Africa have some of the best agricultural land on the entire planet.

>>244165
Yeah, just try to ignore those, some haven't gotten past their wehraboo phase yet.
Anonymous
NzOGk
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No.244175
244183
>>244171
China did much better than Europe for about 2000 years. They ruled an area the size of the USA, invented gunpowder and so much else, and were generally the medieval superpower. By 1500 they'd sent out seven massive exploration fleets, each larger than the last. All 3 of Columbus's ships could have fit on the deck of one of these ships.

The emperor got scared of the admiral, though, and so put an end to it. And China decided to turn inward, becoming isolationist instead of expanding further.
Anonymous
dsQQF
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No.244176
>>244172
>Right, I can name when rules 1 and 2 were up
Okay, you pass.
Anonymous
NzOGk
?
No.244177
>>244174
>I'd say it'd be more useful to teach the africans skills they need to build up on their own rather than give them products directly. Teach a man to fish and all that. As it is we're giving them food directly despite the fact that many parts of Africa have some of the best agricultural land on the entire planet.
I agree.
Anonymous
oohVq
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No.244178
>>244171
happy to help
Anonymous
qTyaZ
?
No.244179
>>244151
Not gonna defend my commie period, you can take that victory freely.

>>244159
I mean it wasn't bad for what it was, definitely better than Mao but that's a low bar. High volume, about what you'd expect in terms of quality. Maybe it was better in the original Russian, I don't know. I certainly don't subscribe to it all these years later. Never read the sum total, either.

>>244159
Discord is one of the most blatant and persistent abject abject failures of opsec on the planet. At least if you're involved in dissident right wing politics. Might as well use an SPLC server.

Anonymous
ohOMJ
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No.244180
244185 244186 244187
Ctrl-F "pony"
>4 mentions

Since no one has asked the important questions yet; OP, who's your waifu, and are there any greens/fics you'd recommend?
Personally I'll shill Everyday Life with Guardsmares (https://pastebin.com/RHkvDaAw and /rgm/) at any opportunity.
Anonymous
9IVxb
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No.244181
244198
>>244167
Marxist leninist
Mostly because i wish to give my people proper development and a great Republic
Anonymous
dsQQF
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No.244182
244184
>>244173
>Listen i have had my fair share of disapointments with leftypol
Do you understand that a pony board is NOT your place? Right?
Anonymous
QZ7DU
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No.244183
>>244175
Not sure how this proves blacks are going to take the gibs and advance when both whites and chinks built what they had themselves. But ok.
Anonymous
9IVxb
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No.244184
244188
>>244182
I think you misunderstood my convo with the other anon
Anonymous
QZ7DU
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No.244185
>>244180
This. I like where this is going.
Anonymous
NzOGk
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No.244186
Spoilered
>>244180
>waifu
Isn't it obvious? The only fully despooked pony in Ponyville.
Anonymous
/4WVU
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No.244187
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>>244180
I agree we need more poners.
Anonymous
dsQQF
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No.244188
244189
>>244184
>misunderstood
Actually I believe you are wasting time, I believe you are not quite ready for horsefuckery.
Anonymous
9IVxb
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No.244189
>>244188
Sure i guess
Anonymous
B7yk3
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No.244190
244191
1655127.png
>>244173
I am sorry but I lurked as much as I could and they never improved

It went downhill the last 3 years I was there

>/leftpol//leftypol/ split + he said this she did that drama
>Discord taking over the leftythrash threads
>The decline of posts because of 8ch irrelevancy until kiwi shooter was a thing again
>MeToo infighting and mods actually fugging taking a stance AND FUCKING SIDING WITH THE WHITE KNIGHTS

the straw that broke the cammel back for me was doing a slight shitpost and then the mods deleting EVERY SINGLE FUCKING ONE OF MY POSTS

THEY DELETED THEORY AND DEBATE BECAUSE I SAID SOMETHING DUMB

then I realized it was truly doomed and made me hate the people in there

all I wanted to do was talk politics and funpost and they did their absolute best to burn it all to the ground

fuck /leftypol/
Anonymous
NzOGk
?
No.244191
244192 244193
>>244190
That's fucking stupid. I know the cancerous BO got removed though.
You could give bunkerchan a try. It's better.
Anonymous
QZ7DU
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No.244192
244202
>>244191
Stop shilling your site. This place is better than anything you can provide. We got friendship. You have reading apparently. Can't even find time for memes.
Anonymous
B7yk3
?
No.244193
244194 244195 244196
2144282.png
>>244191
They did the mao one gorillion flower roses or whatever

the mods and volunteers were fresh and "improved" when I got permabanned and every single one of my effortposts deleted

trust me, I loved some of the people in there

I had a bomb ass time when there was a cyclical catalunya thread and plans to make a DC novel in the alternative universe from red son

I really do miss those days but sincerely it has been nothing but dissapointments from then forward

If bunkerchan and what i've seen in /get/ leftytrash is a taste of what bunkerchan then I don't want to go there

I am sorry but is just not a place where to have fun anymore


Anonymous
B7yk3
?
No.244194
>>244193
>*If leftypol and what i've seen in /get/ leftytrash is a taste of what bunkerchan is then I don't want to go there

Anonymous
NzOGk
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No.244195
244197 244250
551861__safe_artist-colon-yooyfull_pinkie pie_animated_behaving like a dog_blinking_breathing_cute_diapinkes_ear scratch_flash game_interactive_puppy p.gif
>>244193
It's a shame. Bunkerchan has its own /leftypol/, but I guess it won't be to your liking.

Hope you find what you're looking for.
Anonymous
9IVxb
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No.244196
244197
>>244193
Wait you went to leftypol to have fun? I was there for the politics and that was that.
Also that period of leftypol is over and i found it to be hilarious, throughly enjoyed it, i mean hoochie was a fucking mod, can you believe it?
Anonymous
B7yk3
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No.244197
244199 244205
1926843.gif
>>244195
>>244196
the only time I was there I got accused of being a transphobe for calling a poster a tranny after THEY CALLED ME A FAG

HOW CAN YOU NOT SEE HOW IT IS NOT WHAT IT USED TO BE ANYMORE

I WAS THERE

YOU WERE THERE

IT BECAME UTTER FUCKING TRASH

YOU CAN PINPOINT THE MOMENTS IT ALL BECAME A DUMPSTERFIRE, WHY ARE YOU DEFENDING IT
Anonymous
/4WVU
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No.244198
244207
>>244181
>Mostly because i wish to give my people proper development and a great Republic
Why do you want to develop. To develop means to become more western. To become more western means to be harmed when we in the west burn down. Why would you want that for your people? Instead focus on meaning and making Brazil unique and independent from the west be it economically or culturally.
Anonymous
B7yk3
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No.244199
>>244197
*the only time I was in bunkerchan
Anonymous
umpih
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No.244201
244203 244204 244210
So under socialism the means of production are all owned by the state right? So the state controls the media, employment, and all the resources. How is this system NOT going to devolve into tyranny? I understand that capitalism also allows a few oligarchs to control everything, but why would I trade one form of tyranny for another?
Anonymous
D0V9+
?
No.244202
>>244192
This. Discussion is fine, but shilling is expressly not allowed.
Anonymous
QZ7DU
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No.244203
244208
>>244201
Why would you make everyone equally a tyrant in a anarcho-communist society? Everyone is enforcing you to be equal and give to each other. No conflict lying in wait there.
Anonymous
dsQQF
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No.244204
1302237.png
>>244201
You nail it.

Anonymous
9IVxb
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No.244205
244209
>>244197
>the only time I was there I got accused of being a transphobe for calling a poster a tranny after THEY CALLED ME A FAG
LMAO i am starting to think you were trolled
Anonymous
9IVxb
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No.244207
244220
>>244198
You and i have very different definitions of "developed".
Anonymous
umpih
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No.244208
244214
>>244203
>Why would you make everyone equally a tyrant in a anarcho-communist society? Everyone is enforcing you to be equal and give to each other.
So what you just want to get rid of institutional hierarchies entirely? Some people are more fit to lead than others. Not all men were created equal.
Anonymous
B7yk3
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No.244209
244211
ezgif-5-79bc927148f8.gif
>>244205
They banned me for getting into a fight with the tomoko poster

You know who the fuck I am talking about

It wasn't trolling

The tone of the volunteer showing up wasnt one that just wanted to funban an user for shits and giggles

Is the same shit
Anonymous
9IVxb
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No.244210
244213 244216
>>244201
>So under socialism the means of production are all owned by the state right?
Depends on the type of socialism. My type fits that bill.
>How is this system NOT going to devolve into tyranny?
Do you know what dictatorship of the proletariat means? Basically, the State doesn't exactly owns everything, the State is "used" to own everything by the proles through labor councils and trade/industrial union federations/confederations
Anonymous
9IVxb
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No.244211
>>244209
Your condition is still funny and mockable
Anonymous
QZ7DU
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No.244212
244214
Hmm... I may have attached my comment to the wrong post. I am confused at the response. I was arguing against the destruction of hierarchies. I might have mistaken your post on socialism to mean fascistic socialism and not communistic. Regardless, I was making the point that where he was leading was not the desired outcome.
Anonymous
VpiAz
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No.244213
244215
db7.gif
>>244210
>Do you know what dictatorship of the proletariat means?
Careful commie. Do you know where you are?
Anonymous
QZ7DU
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No.244214
244217
>>244212
>>244208
I must be getting tired. I can't even link posts anymore.
Anonymous
9IVxb
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No.244215
244218 244222
>>244213
Yes, a horse porn board with political characteristics
Anonymous
umpih
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No.244216
244219
>>244210
>Basically, the State doesn't exactly owns everything, the State is "used" to own everything by the proles through labor councils and trade/industrial union federations/confederations
So the leaders of those unions and councils effectively have total control. Your system is going to be controlled by a handful of oligarchs that are going to be just as exploitative as the capitalists.
Anonymous
9IVxb
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No.244217
>>244214
It's 1am where i'm at faggot.
If i can do it you CAN!
Anonymous
QZ7DU
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No.244218
244223
>>244215
Speaking of horse porn, how do you like it?
Anonymous
9IVxb
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No.244219
244225
>>244216
These councils and unions have demcratic structures within them, what makes you think you wouldn't be in these organizations? Everyone works you know?
Anonymous
/4WVU
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No.244220
244224
3245345345.png
>>244207
Maybe it is a dialect problem. But I think more over its because I haven't done a great job explaining my point. Before I can make my point, I must ask, do you believe in dialect materialism?
Anonymous
XweDm
?
No.244222
BB6D0C45-209F-4689-BCD5-6CFCCC844438.jpeg
>>244215

Anonymous
9IVxb
?
No.244223
244226
>>244218
I like when it's animated and the subject is the girl getting rammed.
Anonymous
9IVxb
?
No.244224
244235 244263
>>244220
Yes
Anonymous
umpih
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No.244225
244227
>>244219
So what if they are democratic? That isn't a safeguard against tyranny especially when those are the same people who control the flow of information. The U.S. is democratic. Doesn't mean it isn't an exploitative system.
Anonymous
QZ7DU
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No.244226
244228
>>244223
>communist having patrician levels of what he likes in horse porn
Animation is expensive. Not sure how that gets equal production, distrubution, and reimburstment in your ideal society.
Anonymous
9IVxb
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No.244227
244231
>>244225
>the US is democratic
Haha no it is a plutocracy based on imperial capitalism, the democracy you see is nothing but a show that even the olygarchs delude themselves into believing, money is the driving force of american politics
Anonymous
9IVxb
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No.244228
244230
>>244226
>equal
Again, no
Anonymous
QZ7DU
?
No.244230
244245
>>244228
Then how do you properly work that industry in your society?
Anonymous
umpih
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No.244231
244242
>>244227
>the democracy you see is nothing but a show that even the olygarchs delude themselves into believing
What makes you think that your democracy will be any different?
Anonymous
/4WVU
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No.244235
244254 244267 244310
>>244224
The theory I posit to you is called the morphology of history and its antithetical to the linearity of dialectical materialism. It has a 1000 page book and I'm sure you'd find yourself in deep water if someone asked you to explain dialectic materialism to a stranger. So too I find it hard to do. So instead I ask you watch this video its a bit long, and near the end you can skip around since it starts repeating historical themes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uha7WWgoeX4

I'm generally curious to see how you react to it, mainly because I'm wondering if this is something that would work generally well within the dialectic frame while I talk with those like you who self identify as far left (tank specially).
Anonymous
fWj9g
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No.244237
244248
>>244066
To put into terms you will understand, He means the lumpen prole
Anonymous
9IVxb
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No.244242
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>>244231
Monetary gain will either be worthless or non existant
Anonymous
9IVxb
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No.244245
244246
>>244230
Through monetary gain (initially), the point os to make society strive for needs and produce their "wants" themselves without an "agent" breathing down their necks
Anonymous
QZ7DU
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No.244246
244249
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>>244242
>>244245
Wut?

So... there would have to be some sort of distrubution in order to make working on animation worth it or people will just stop. I mean, why would you go through months of work for no greater reward than not doing that? You will create a society that only makes needs and become stagnate in all other factors, because why work more when you only get the same outcome?
Anonymous
dsQQF
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No.244248
244252
>>244237
>He means the lumpen prole
Nope, I meant the liberal medium class, the intellectuals, and thugs serving the (((System))).
Anonymous
9IVxb
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No.244249
244250 244253
>>244246
Art and other cultural phenomenons happen not just for some sort gain, it is an individual effort for self gain inspired by collective experience, people would draw, animate and build because they believe it to be "fun" not for studio execs or oligarchic idiots, sure it may slower but it would be worth it i think
Anonymous
fWj9g
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No.244250
244257
>>244249
>>244195
how do you feel about Private Property?
Anonymous
dsQQF
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No.244252
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>>244248
>the intellectuals
And by the way these agents of subversion are the marxist avant-garde pushed by the jews to "deconstruct" the West.
Anonymous
QZ7DU
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No.244253
244259
>>244249
Freeform art sure, but any art that is not self expressive or done to garner a following would be gone. There would be no more reason to produce anything else. Why would you go throught the trouble of publishing a story when you get nothing out of it but maybe fame... which gets you nothing. The main driving force of many art forms is restriction and crunch in order to gain something from it. And you offer nothing to motivate art.
Anonymous
9IVxb
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No.244254
>>244235
Not gonna lie fam, this video is pretty cringe.
Dialectical materialism isn't a linear form of histrical analysis, but rather a physical one that revolves around energy output of a society, slavery and agriculture makes humanity release much more energy than hunter gathering which is why we only started advancing technologically after the deserts started forming, we needed to release more energy to produce more food and hunting and gathering was too low energy
Anonymous
9IVxb
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No.244257
244258
>>244250
It should be abolished
Anonymous
fWj9g
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No.244258
244260
>>244257
But why?
Anonymous
9IVxb
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No.244259
>>244253
I don't offer anything that is true, but i don't wish to make a system where you either produce your magnum opus or you die of hunger or live in misery working some other shitty making a shitty isekai webcomic
Anonymous
9IVxb
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No.244260
244261 244264
>>244258
It is the basis of capitalism
Anonymous
QZ7DU
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No.244261
>>244260
Living on borrowed land, getting borrowed goods and doing fuck all except producing a bit more goods for others to borrow from you. I'm guessing you are going to have to force some production of anti-depressants.
Jz+2S
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No.244262
244265 244272
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File (hide): 8C0C5CD98A46CA91B430B120BC48760A-5802602.mp4 (5.5 MB, Resolution:1920x1080 Length:00:00:24, 1555380624663.mp4) [play once] [loop]
1555380624663.mp4
>Hi, I'm totally reasonable, I swear.
>...
>...
>...
>It'sNotTheKikesIt'sNotTheKikesIt'sNotTheKikes
When you realize that kikes greatly amplify all other problems (when they're not too busy causing them to begin with), then you will have reached the next step towards enlightenment.
Are the rich a problem? Yes.
Would they be anywhere near as big a problem without the kikes getting involved? All signs point to no.
Anonymous
/4WVU
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No.244263
244273
>>244224
Yeah its a little dramatic to say the least. Also I'm wondering more what your thoughts on its validity of truth are is more or less why I wanted you to take a look at it. I get it is presented in a way that is overly dramatic but what do you think of the theory?
Anonymous
fWj9g
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No.244264
244268 244271
>>244260
Would you consider Nationalist Socialist Germany to be Capitalist? Because they had Private Property.
Anonymous
TNX20
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No.244265
244272
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>>244262
>It'sNotTheKikesIt'sNotTheKikesIt'sNotTheKikes

Anonymous
u1EyU
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No.244266
244272
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saadaw.jpg
>Of course is not the jews
>It is just some rich jews
>Rich people comes in every race and flavor
>Let us take down the rich
>And remember goyim, no every jew is the same
Anonymous
9IVxb
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No.244267
>>244235
Watching it again i notice that this video is the late 19th century's sentiment condensed in 30 minutes, bunch of intellectuals creating loads of isms in order to develop or change society. Just so you know the majority of the problems this video describes are from capitalism and it glorifies feudalism which for is just retarded, is the author of this video "pro" making everyone on Earth a braindead peasent cucked by "pricipled" priests? The whole intellectuals with "theories" and "analysis" destroying old world conceptions of reality is somehow a bad thing? So our truth system should be based on what some "principled" monk has to say while he gets the product of my labor for thinking harder than i do without offering anything meaningfull to society besides his refined autism which i could get by especializing myself in sociology.
Also i like how agrarianism is seen as this bastion of tradition when most of the progressive intellectuals in Brazil are from the rural side of things.
Anonymous
9IVxb
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No.244268
244270 244271 244281
>>244264
Yes but wasn't just that.
Having some private ownership doesn't make a system completely capitalist, having restaurants and bars being owned by someone won't undermine the heavy and light industry being collectivesed
Anonymous
u1EyU
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No.244270
j1.jpg
j2.jpg
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>>244268
You and your commie pal are so transparent.
Your self shilling is going nowhere. Consider suicide.
Anonymous
VfYoA
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No.244271
244279 244281
>>244264
Did they though? According to the reichstag fire decree they could take anything they wanted from anybody if they really wanted to. Is having private property the same as having the right to private property? I would argue it isn't capitalist, just a different form of socialism.

>>244268
So you think the Nazis aren't capitalists?
Anonymous
9IVxb
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No.244272
244275 244276 244441
>>244266
>>244265
>>244262
The problem is system not the fact that it is a Jew that owns land and a factory.
The problem is with the play in on itself not it's actors.
Believing otherwise just makes the same as the libs who believe that "whites" are the bane of all existence
Anonymous
9IVxb
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No.244273
244274 244277
>>244263
I would say it isn't that valid, we on the marxist side of things would call this "idealism"
Anonymous
u1EyU
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No.244274
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>>244273

Anonymous
QZ7DU
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No.244275
244280
>>244272
What's with the quotes around whites?
Anonymous
VfYoA
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No.244276
244282
>>244272
So what is the differences between blaming an entire class vs an entire race for societal ills?
Anonymous
/4WVU
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No.244277
244287
>>244273
What part of the theory makes you think it is idealistic? I have found that its overall predictions (it was written 100 years ago) have been spot on in the west.
Anonymous
NhBjQ
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No.244278
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I suspect this thread is going to be showered in horse pussy sooner than I thought.
Anonymous
9IVxb
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No.244279
244286
>>244271
I do believe they were capitalists, i was merely correcting the idea that absolutely everything needs to be collectised to be considered socialist.
The Nazis were corporatists meaning they believed that there were "good" capitalists and "bad" capitalists, right wing anticapitalism doesn't offer much in terms of solutions to the main problem besides "problematization"
Anonymous
9IVxb
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No.244280
244283 244284 244295
>>244275
I don't believe in whiteness
Anonymous
fWj9g
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No.244281
244286
>>244268
I disagree with you on the point of them being capitalists. they Were staunchly Anti-Capitalists.

How do you feel about Religion? Should People be allowed to practice it? Christianity in Particular.
>>244271
Having Private Property, Even if the state could theoretically take it. Which i'm not sure that they could. Is still Private Property. When was this Decree you speak of put into motion?
Anonymous
9IVxb
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No.244282
>>244276
We are not blaming a class but the system they uphold
Anonymous
cMon0
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No.244283
>>244280
You are a gook, and Seul is waiting for you. Don't make your own people wait. Go home.
Anonymous
QZ7DU
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No.244284
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>>244280
No such thing as whiteness.
Anonymous
UKLpC
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No.244285
>>244284
Yup. The shilling is heavy tonight.
Anonymous
VfYoA
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No.244286
244294 244295
>>244279
I disagree. But that depends on how you or me define capitalist.
>>244281
This is just a translation from wikipedia but here it is
>Articles 114, 115, 117, 118, 123, 124 and 153 of the Constitution of the German Reich are suspended until further notice. It is therefore permissible to restrict the rights of personal freedom [habeas corpus], freedom of (opinion) expression, including the freedom of the press, the freedom to organize and assemble, the privacy of postal, telegraphic and telephonic communications. Warrants for House searches, orders for confiscations as well as restrictions on property, are also permissible beyond the legal limits otherwise prescribed.

So unlike the communists the National Socalists aren't after class they are after race. If you believe the jews are behind the ills of Germany it makes sense. This decree allows the Nazi party to take the property from anyone they don't like. Again if you are a nat soc that's fine because you would believe the race is more important than yourself. You don't need private property rights. I don't agree with that for my own reasons.
Anonymous
9IVxb
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No.244287
244301
>>244277
This video didn't predict anything, it was an analysis of urbanization put on a negative light, believe me when i say that the situation regarding "intellectuals" making shit up was way worse than it is now. Also the things it believes to be problems are actually just the consequences of capitalism taking hold on society, there wasn't a change in values there was a change in the need of such values, most of them were obsolete such as the need for priests to offer guidence for everything
Anonymous
/4WVU
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No.244288
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>>244284
I agree with the tankie, there is an obvious difference between western Europeans, eastern, and southern. The idea of a international whiteness in fact is just that, internationalist, a myth created by the liberal founding fathers to increase immigration to the US to aid them economically.
Anonymous
9IVxb
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No.244289
244290
If only you knew fren
Anonymous
9IVxb
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No.244290
>>244289
Meant for>>244283

Anonymous
VfYoA
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No.244291
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>>244288
You aren't a Southern Nationalist are you? Identity Dixie has been working pretty hard on dispelling the ideal all us whites are the same. It's not often I hear anyone else on the dissident right criticize white nationalism.
Anonymous
QZ7DU
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No.244292
244404
>>244288
That is just the point of My Little Pony. The ponies, which are white are obviously different races: Unicorn, Pegasi, and Earth. But they unite despite that to form the Pony race. In these trying times, we have to unite against those that will kill us despite racial difference just because we are white. At least that's what I get from it. We are different, but capable of friendship and unity, and when we fight, devestation and death follows us ponesonified in the Windigos.
Anonymous
dsQQF
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No.244293
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>>244288
Wow, your shilling is very good quality.
Unfortunately for you, the poners are not so gullible and smell the jewish rat from a long, long distance.
Try harder.
Anonymous
9IVxb
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No.244294
244297
>>244286
Being able to seize property doesn't make something socialist, banks do that, are they anticapitalist?


Anonymous
fWj9g
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No.244295
244296 244298 244303
>>244286
What year was that put into motion?
>>244280
Ok let me pose this to you. Are Asians as a whole a race? or Negros? there are Genetic Research that Proves that they are in fact a race. that includes White people.
>>244288
Geneticly all Europeans anywhere in the world of the same race. Be it in the Mother Continent Europe, North America,Oceania And even the whites in South America.
Anonymous
fWj9g
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No.244296
>>244295
*Are of the same race
Anonymous
VfYoA
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No.244297
244300
>>244294
I don't think that in itself makes the Nazis socialist, but I think there are other examples of socialist policies. Again depending on how each of us defines capitalism or socialism it varies. Are you talking about bankruptcy and debt recovery?
Anonymous
VfYoA
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No.244298
244299
>>244295
1933, I'm surprised you don't know the reichstag fire decree considering it was pretty much how the Nazis got in power.
Anonymous
fWj9g
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No.244299
244312
>>244298
This is the first time i'm hearing of it. The National Socialist were voted into power.
Anonymous
9IVxb
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No.244300
244308
>>244297
I am not arguing that they were socialist
Anonymous
/4WVU
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No.244301
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>>244291
Why yes I am a southerner how could you tell?

>>244293
Scroll up, we've been over this, remember rule 1 and 2.

>>244287
I will give you the benefit of the doubt of just having missed it, the video isn't just about urbanization leading to cultural entropy, although that is one part. Every portion after the World War phase is a prediction, since Spengler died before WWII. That includes a second world war. the ending of military drafts in favor of a all volunteer professional military which has taken place in every western European state. The rise of privatized armies (blackwater), the merign of state and businessmen in government, the rise in unilateral aggrandizement of the winning power of the contending state winner. The cultral uniformity of states. The drop in overall fertility throughout the west, the decline in literature, and increase in anti-intellectualism. These were all his predictions before a cultural winter, which are all expressed in the video.
Anonymous
9IVxb
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No.244303
244305 244306 244307
>>244295
I am not saying that Europe or Asia has no race, i am saying that being white isn't real. Do Africans call themselves blacks? Do Asians call themselves yellows? It's nothing but shitflinging
Anonymous
QZ7DU
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No.244305
>>244303
Yet they all want to be known as people of color. And their enemy of choice is the white race.
Anonymous
2i8te
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No.244306
>>244303
Black people will tell you they are black, asians will tell you they are asian, its not a hard concept
Anonymous
fWj9g
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No.244307
>>244303
The Africans in North America Do.
Anonymous
VfYoA
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No.244308
>>244300
Who the Nazis or the banks? I imagine you mean both.

I'd recommend watching this video. The guy is pro Nat Soc and I am not but he is citing academically respected books about the Nazi economy and government. Specifically "Wages of Destruction." So if you can ignore the positive spin he puts on the facts the Nazi economy is definitely not capitalist in the same way the US or the UK were at the time. How do you define what makes a country socialist?

https://www.bitchute.com/video/UDagBiD4Gqo/
Anonymous
/4WVU
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No.244309
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>tfw the commie is standing up for more nationalist principles then those who are right wing
Anonymous
9IVxb
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No.244310
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I am going to sleep now it's 3 am in Brazil, thanks for your time, i've enjoyed our talk
>>244301
>>244235
Here i recomend Paul Cockshott (yes this is his name) if you want to know dialectical materialism
https://youtu.be/9u2TtXVABcc
https://youtu.be/6plfLzRDnCA
https://youtu.be/ic-VIssclio
Anonymous
/4WVU
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No.244311
>>244310
Thank you for the talk, enjoyed talking to someone I would have talked to years back. Hopefully we can do it again, I have a lot of ideas I want to bounce off someone of your political leanings. Will give a watch tho, goodnight lad.
Anonymous
VfYoA
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No.244312
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>>244299
They were voted into power and then stamped out all opposition with acts like that. If a party is voted into power how often do you think all opposition parties simply disappear? You'd have to be naive to think absolutely everyone liked the Nazi party so much that nobody disagreed with them. Again if you are a Nat Soc then that's fine. One race, one national, one leader. That's what Nat Socs believe and I'm not faulting them for that, I just don't agree with it.
Anonymous
fWj9g
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No.244313
>>244310
I Had Fun.
Anonymous
9IVxb
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No.244314
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>>244301
When and who made these nostradamus predictions?
All cappie problems btw
Anonymous
fWj9g
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No.244315
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>>244312
> Again if you are a Nat Soc then that's fine. One race, one national, one leader. That's what Nat Socs believe and I'm not faulting them for that, I just don't agree with it.
I Am, I Don't necessarily see those laws as a problem because of all the Moral,Technological, and Medical progress they made for our people.
Anonymous
dsQQF
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No.244316
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>>244315
>they made for our people
>our people
I'm speechless.
Anonymous
VfYoA
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No.244317
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>>244301
Like I said nobody else in the dissident right holds the same grudge against Yankees as we do. White Nationalism was how they kept their empire together through the immigration years of the 1800s. Now that holding whites together doesn't matter to the American Empire, the Yankee man needs something to cling to, i.e. white nationalism.
Anonymous
/4WVU
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No.244318
>>244314
>All cappie
To a large point I agree, but I think liberalism would be a better culprit to blame (which I'd include capitalism under which is why I say I agree.)

His name was Oswald Spengler, his mangum opus was called the decline of teh west. Very long two volume book about as hard to get through as Das Capital but a bit less dry. Had a few important essays he wrote too, Prussianism and socialism and on pessimism.
Anonymous
VfYoA
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No.244319
244320 244324
>>244315
Yea see that's great for you. I disagree because I don't see myself as a white nationalist, but to each their own.
Anonymous
VfYoA
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No.244320
>>244319
>>244315
Well to clarify I don't mean to imply the Nazis were white nationalists, but today that seems to be how most Nat Socs are.
Anonymous
/4WVU
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No.244322
>>244314
>when
1918 was when the first volume was published. Second a few years later.
Anonymous
fWj9g
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No.244324
>>244316
I'm primarily of German descent. so yes our people. even if i weren't they are still apart of my Race.
>>244319
That's fair.
Anonymous
/4WVU
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No.244332
>>244317
The irony to all of it is that since their empire was never for them, but for those who lorded over them, and now have thrown off the act since they need to import new groups to keep their empire alive. But even after all of this nearly all of them still can't see that they are being fooled and falling for an old myth. To a point I don't blame them if they were to accept that this idea of "white" was a lie to begin with they will all suddenly come to the realization that they are rootless. Which the Yankee entirely is. So they hold onto it for comfort.
Anonymous
B7yk3
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No.244334
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Is it over ?
Who won?


Anonymous
/4WVU
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No.244335
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>>244334
We all lost mexibro.
Anonymous
cMon0
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No.244337
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>>244334
>Is it over ?
Not yet. They are assessing how successful their marxism went trough.
Anonymous
QZ7DU
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No.244338
>>244334
As long as we remain together in friendship, they can never win.
Anonymous
rxhkk
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No.244339
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>>244337
I give them credit for their tenacity, but their IQ and lack of self awareness is feminine as fuck.
Anonymous
/4WVU
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No.244342
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>>244339
>IQ and lack of self awareness is feminine as fuck.
To be fair both of them were fairly good listeners. Which is better luck then what I've had at times talking to other anons here as of late.
Anonymous
B7yk3
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No.244344
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>>244335
Is okay
we were never winners anyway

How about yall muricans go to sleep

Unless you live in Guam, is l8 4 u
Anonymous
/4WVU
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No.244348
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>>244344
Thanks mexibro, y-you too...
Anonymous
QZ7DU
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No.244349
244357
>>244344
Don't be so sad. You are a winner to me.
https://youtu.be/kGOQfLFzJj8
Anonymous
fWj9g
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No.244351
244353
>>244339
>I give them credit for their tenacity,
This. given enough time a few of them might get redpilled.
Anonymous
5YrKt
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No.244353
244355 244356
>>244351
>given enough time a few of them might get redpilled
Hardly. They still are living in a city while protected from the minorities they worship by zogbots.
Only after they fall victims of their own work, they might get it, not before.
Anonymous
dsQQF
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No.244355
>>244353
>Only after they fall victims of their own work, they might get it, not before.
This.
After all they are NPCs, they won't respond to reason.

Anonymous
fWj9g
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No.244356
244360
>>244353
i dunno man. i've seen a lot of "Fuck you /Pol/ i used to be a communist before you faggots redpilled me." threads on 4/pol/ before coming here.
Anonymous
B7yk3
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No.244357
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>>244348
Appreciated
ᴸᵉᵗ'ˢ ⁿᵒᵗ ᵍᵉᵗ ʷᵉᶦʳᵈ

>>244349
Not sad at all
Or you might say, saddle

Anonymous
dsQQF
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No.244360
244364
>>244356
But, do you notice the language these NPCs use?
It is straight from the Communist Manifest and Das Kapital, mixed with hegelian dialectic and materialistic views. A totally Judaic approach and no soul, just only their self interest about matter, possessions, struggle for wealth... it is like talking to a jew.
They are dead inside.
Anonymous
QZ7DU
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No.244361
244363
>>244357
That's good. I best be off to bed now. Have a good night anon.
Anonymous
B7yk3
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No.244363
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>>244361
Good night
Dream of free shekels and crystal Pepsi
Anonymous
fWj9g
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No.244364
244367
>>244360
Perhaps you are right, i still hold out hope though.
Anonymous
B7yk3
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No.244367
244368
>>244364
Nice quad id
Anonymous
fWj9g
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No.244368
>>244367
Thanks. HHHH
Anonymous
iRQ4S
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No.244378
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golden dildo award.jpg
The Threads here get worse by the week, but this one takes the cake. Contender for worst thread of the year.

here's the trophy for the mod who decided its a good idea to harbor unironic communists on this site.

(don\'t look at me faggot, I was the one bombing it with Garfield)
Anonymous
0qtDz
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No.244379
Stimer a cuck
Anonymous
RcsOT
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No.244389
>>244242
How will you make monetary gain worthless? Also let's not underestimate the value of power and status.
Anonymous
RcsOT
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No.244391
>>244378
They are coming here for political discussion. I see no problem in allowing communists to join the discussion so long as they aren't trying to get us deplatformed or shill the site.
Anonymous
75xrP
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No.244392
>>244378
So you're saying we should only allow approved ideology threads to ensure the circle jerk goes on instead of getting confliting Views on the table to ensure discussion and drama, thus increasing traffic?
Fasces
Moderator
QZ7DU
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No.244395
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>>244378
The decision to pet them stay for this one thread was not made lightly. Half of the staff was ready to remove them, and reasonably so, /leftypol/ are massive faggots. However, we determined that they were not breaking any rules save the one or two times they shilled going to their site for more info. The thread was used for debate, and a rather important one against outsiders. It was a good experience and a civil one. Should any of that change, the staff will be ready to physically remove communist scum.

If you have doubts about this decision, please notify us in /qa/ and we will respond as quickly as we can. This is an important topic that we want to be clear about moving forward. We do not support the faggotry of /leftypol/, however, pure political posting, regardless of alignment on the political compass, is allowed here for debate. The mod team is on watch should they come back and attempt to escape their containment board or devolve this one into shilling.
Anonymous
B7yk3
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No.244396
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>>244395
shush you wheenie

let us brawl

no mods
shitpost only
final destination
Fasces
Moderator
QZ7DU
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>>244396
My apologies.

Choose your fighter!
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>>244395
Yeah, that is a good position. Afterall this can either result in that nothing comes out of it or they will convert to ourside. But am kinda okay with them shilling their shitty site even though it is against the rules. Like who is gonna go there for advice on marxism anyway but also it is also kinda binary. This thread is afterall shilling /leftypol/ in the OP so do they even need to shill it more?

I want to participate as well but I got things to do right now. I will probably have time to do that after about 24 hours.

>>244396
That's what he said poner. Go back to eating your plate, "brbrbrrbrbrbr!"
>>244398
kek
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This thread is a good example of why one should never unconditionally hate any group (inb4 cuck). Communism is of course one of my worst enemies yet not all adherents can be blamed. After all, they believe they are morally in the right and methodologically sound and within their theory they're not wrong. It is based on the Rousseauian view of freedom (to my knowledge Rousseau was not a Jew) and carries this through to the absolute. Its economics is the logical conclusion of the labor theory of value (which originated with classical economics, hence why Adam Smith and David Ricardo are respected despite being pro-capitalist economists), which though outdated still holds sway in even mainstream circles. Even its atheism is understandable from the viewpoint of the dialectic; though Hegel was not an atheist it is logically impossible to fit God within a dichotomy because by definition there is nothing outside God (E. Michael Jones talks about this), hence if one holds to a dialectic God must be abolished.

Of all left-wing ideologies I respect Stirner the most. He represents the epitome of left-wing thought because the left seeks to abolish all hierarchy and Stirner rejects any sort of hierarchy or order outside the individual (see pic related); it is every man for himself. In the same way he is the nullification of all ideology and belief and makes no distinction between the religion of God on the right and the religion of Man on the left, all these concepts are "spooks" as one can work only for his own self-interest. Therefore it is very hard to "debunk" Stirner because you must absolutely prove your values really exist outside of constructs in the mind. You can hate Stirner and be repulsed by him, but you can't call him a hypocrite because he doesn't claim to have any superior order; even the idea of democracy held by other anarchists is destroyed. I've heard that Marx, a contemporary, was so annoyed by Stirner he put in a hundred pages in Das Kapital attacking him (I haven't yet read Kapital though it's on my reading list).

I do have a few questions regarding Stirner. Why is he considered one of the left's "/ourguys/" if he so vociferously attacked everything they hold dear regarding "the brotherhood of man"? Also, why is Stirner upheld by leftists but not Ayn Rand? Unfortunately I have not read her (I consider her overrated) but they seem superficially similar in their rejections of altruism and religion, with the main point of division being that Stirner rejected property rights and considered property as what you could take and hold with your power (basically a violent form of mutualism) while Rand supported the "capitalist" form of property rights.

>>243912
Mainly because right-anarchists oppose the coercive hierarchy of the State while supporting the existence of voluntary hierarchies, while left-anarchists consider all of them repugnant. Also, there is a distinction in methodologies. Right-anarchists generally hold to the subjective theory of value from the Austrian School while left-anarchists usually abide by the LTV. There is a practical reason for it too; if you are a holder of property or want to obtain it you are better off supporting a fascist who'll take only part of it versus a communist who'll take all of it. The communists in their analysis of the relationship of fascism and capital are correct in this, though I disagree that fascism was "created" by capitalists or that it's a consequence of "late-stage capitalism."

As for anarchists across the spectrum allying that's the point of this site: https://attackthesystem.com/ (they also have an interesting article on "anarcho-fascism" which I recommend). I don't think they could ever succeed because of the aforementioned reasons (complete difference in theory) and differences in moral values (pic again related). Also, left-anarchism is currently dominated by intersectionalists and Antifa who are considered irredeemable. But hey, Nazbols are a thing so who knows.

>>243920
Free market economy is what ancaps want. It's "purer" capitalism, but actually less appealing to the ultrarich. They like having a puppet government to make it hard to get started as a new business and to give them tax rebates. The oil industry is a perfect example of this: the government is propping up an industry that would collapse or at least shrink under pure capitalism.
Can't agree more.

>Basically, in antiquity, you had half a dozen classes--rich merchants, priests, nobility, peasants, shopkeepers, and the like. Capitalism has transformed society into having two major classes: the bourgeoisie and the proletariat.
Although the cause of the transformation into dual classes is considered differently (growth of the State) as well as their definition (benefactors of the State versus everyone else), this is increasingly the view of radical right-libertarians like Hans-Hermann Hoppe (see https://mises.org/wire/libertarian-quest-grand-historical-narrative)

The radical right in terms of practical politics agrees more with the left than with centrists, but we have different angles (Ron Paul agrees with Noam Chomsky on foreign policy).

>>244288
>>244292
I believe that E. Michael Jones has a point and when people are more or less similar physiologically then religion becomes race and the basis of commonality among a group. Hence why WASPs tend to have common characteristics, Irish/Italian/South German peoples intermarry as they're all Catholic, and why Jews are so cohesive.

>>244395
Thank you! Containment threads can only be a positive. I feel that the lack of them made 8/pol/ such a pessimistic echo-chamber and that this behavior (derail anything that disagrees with your core beliefs) has been brought by them here. I doubt they can change easily but keeping a more open (yet anti-normie) atmosphere here is refreshing.
(There are a lot of red anons I like, but the overall tone just seems bitter)
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Also I mentioned that the Labor Theory of Value (LTV) is the foundation of Marxist economics and that it still holds sway in mainstream circles. Logically, then, mainstream "capitalist" economics cannot provide a rigorous theoretical challenge to Marxism but, as it usually does, only provide limited mathematical models and empirical cases to oppose it. The main source of contention against the Marxist theory has, rather, come from the Austrian School of economics which refutes the LTV and uses rigorous praxeological (the logical study of human action) methods to investigate the interaction of economic actors. As a result, while mainstream Keynesian and "Chicago-style" economics (which only moderately differ in advocacy of economic intervention as do Democrats vs. Republicans) has largely stagnated since the 50's with a few tentative innovations, the Austrian School has continually expanded its scope to encompass a larger and larger vision of the economy, to the point that increasingly society and politics at large have been critiqued from a radically anarchist perspective.

I hope you read "Man, Economy, and State" by Murray Rothbard which builds up economic theory from the most basic principles like that one mathematician who in two sheets of paper derived advanced calculus from simple counting (though this doorstopper is much less concise). If you do so I'll read "Das Kapital" (which I'll do eventually anyway, but I'll put it higher on my reading list). If MES is too much for now you can find a much more brief summary of Austrian thought from Rothbard's "successor," Hans-Hermann Hoppe in the second pdf.
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>>244398
Someone modded Rainbow Dash into Super Smash Bros Brawl.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX2Mglnb6kk
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>>243890
I don't see a problem with combating common enemies together, here's the thing: every country has its own way of forming nationalistic ideals. stalin's soviet union had national sentiment, and the false dichotomy we've been thrown into only serves to divide us. I have many problems with communism and I won't excuse its crimes, particularly those of leon trotsky, however if you stand against jewry we're in no position to decline help right now.
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>>244400
>Shitty site
So yeah, those are my true feelings but it is not a nice way to start a conversation. So I'm sorry.
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>>244406
Ahh yes, Murray Rothbard the so called "self-hating jew (((hated))) round the world". Well publicized by common kikes, beloved by banker kikes, loved by cucked goyim everywhere, given mass market appeal as a (((radical))) not-niggerkike trying to defeat the systems in place, was the greatest wet dream product out of the pro-ziocuck Austrian School of JewCONomics seeking to dominate groupthink/pubthink by establishing homogenized """realthink""" economic propaganda. Pure, plain niggotry. The Labor (((hypothesis))) of (((Shekels))) is a glorification of judaic slavery. Never a theory, only laughably incompetent word salad mixed with logical fallacies all the way around. Your "defenses" of judeo-bolshevism, judeo-marxism, judeo-communism, judeo-collectivism, judeo-capitalism, judeo-corporatism are WOW! AMAZING!!! imposed by the same exact kikes. Glownigger cuckshills deserve no respect: this nice, neat DHS/La Sia/Pissad approved copy-paste of (((centrist))) word salads are diseased, pathetic wannabe memetics. Defending terrorist schlock kikery by pretending "b-b-but w-we're not k-k-kiked that b-bad you s-stupid goy, j-just join us and you'll be s-s-afe" could not have been valid to begin with. You are proselytizing nu-think doubleplusungood ideology. That makes you a cuckshill. Lying from the perspective of wanting a peace treaty with conditions that solely favor "your faction" makes you a double cuckshill. There is no difference between grouptink/pubthink "sides" as each serves, are functionaries for, swear oaths to, and slave away for the kike. Triple the cuckshill. Advocating for the forced dissolution of all differences according to kike slavery has created nearly every collapse in the past 2,000 years. This makes you quadruple the cuck, and infinite the shill.

tl;dr your entire aggrieved (((outrage))) can be summed up to: "I love being a good goyim for my shekel master the best boi jew".
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>>244395
Why were you ready to remove them? You didn't do that 2 years ago. Does half your team want to turn the site into a hugbox?

https://mlpol.net/mlpol/archive/res/71359.html
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This thread here proves exactly why the "dissident right-wing" is much more courteous than everyone gives us credit for. We allow commies on our platform but I doubt they will ever allow us on theirs.
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>>244426
Lotus the big goytoy doesn't give a shit what the users think or need, he just wants attention especially it if happens to be from micro jew dick sucking traitors.
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>>244431
No need to be rood, anon.
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>>244431
>>244431
Strangler, do you even read the posts you respond to before you cover your keyboard in diarrhea? Or your own for that matter
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>>244427
The whole reason we made this thread is because of our new outreach program. So yes, you are allowed on our board as long as you're relatively civil.

>>244395
Appreciated, could you remove idiots like the Garfield spammer though? That's not gonna help discourse.
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Collectivism is for the weak. You understand Capitalism through Economics and Mathematics, not "dialectics" if you needed fucking Marx to explain this to you, I have some news; you are a low IQ simp bitch that will always be dominated no matter what power structure du jour you seek to put in place because of your incompetence within power hierarchies, period. This stems from you being poorly socialized deceptive swine of the lowest order and natural leaders see this and thusly you go unrewarded for your revolutionary efforts and again embrace a formulaic pubertal iconoclasm masquerading as a coherent body politic. In reality you are but indolent and useful reactionaries to what is actually natural circumstance for mendacious weaklings, subservience. Bestowing mathematics and literacy upon your slave race was clearly a mistake that shall not be repeated. Though we cannot simply reduce you to basal vocalizations, we shall remove all metaphysical coherence from your vernacular so that this mess will simply be avoided in the future. It's been fun, really but your slightly clever asses have utterly stultified the simple with this fucking voodoo and we're just through with it. It's fundamentally our fault for letting the toddler play with the fuel and fire.
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>>244435
Brevity is wit.
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>>244436
>Brevity is wit.
lmao you have to go back
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>>244066
>>244071
>"it's the ELITES not the JEWS you stupid goyim"

>>244063
>"b-b-but they're n-not j-j-j-jews"
Suuuure. They're honorary kikes, most of their business associates are kikes, their friends are kikes, they hire kikes for top positions... is there a profound difference here or is this some semantics reaching bullshit?

>>244084
>>244086
>>244091
>it's not the jews
>it's not the jews
>it's not the jews
>it's not the jews
>it's not the jews
Deflect, evade, dodge, tapdancing your heroes away from criticism.

>>244102
>many of the theorists are of Jewish descent, yes, though they were usually atheists
Citations and evidence those claims required, glownigger.
Jim Davis
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>>244434
>could you remove idiots like the Garfield spammer though?
lol no
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Hello, /leftypol/. While you guys are here why not take a look at some of our other boards as well. They could certainly use more activity.
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>>244272
>The problem is system not the fact that it is a Jew that owns land and a factory.
The problem is that Jews are incredibly ethnocentric and nepotistic as group. They have double standards for how they treat others and their own (just look at how Jews usually talk about Israel and then look at how they talk about white nationalism to get an idea of what I am talking about). They view us as an enemy and promote harmful values to destroy us (see the garbage that Hollywood puts out). Yes capitalism in and of itself is destructive to the culture and the nation, but Jews are a problem too.
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>>244437
See, at least I read that one.

>>244441
Most white Americans are much more positive about Israel than white nationalism too, and before you go 'oh that's cause of the Jewish media', well, maybe in part, but there's been generations of self interested white policy leaders who have supported Israel to the hilt in order to make money for the MIC and not out of any actual care about Israelis. It's a mutually beneficial arrangement for the powers that be.

>>244438
Jews are over-represented among Marxist theorists but that's mostly because Jews are over-represented in academia, the intelligencia, art, and so on especially back in the 1800s. I don't see any evidence of a conspiracy.

>Citations and evidence those claims required, glownigger.

Citation of what? That Marxism is openly anti-religious? How do I prove such a basic fact?
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>>244443
>It's a mutually beneficial arrangement for the powers that be.
This I will not deny.
>Jews are over-represented among Marxist theorists but that's mostly because Jews are over-represented in academia, the intelligencia, art, and so on especially back in the 1800s.
Why do you suppose this is?
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>>244444
>Why do you suppose this is?

The orthodox explanation is that Jews were barred from traditional occupations like farming or so on and had to adapt to urban centres to survive, others would say that Jews are naturally more intelligent on average, still others would say that Jews engaged in nepotism, probably the right answer is a combination of the three.

I don't really see what that has to do with anything, though.
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>>244441
>The problem is that Jews are incredibly ethnocentric and nepotistic as group.
I never followed this line of reasoning. If what you hate are ethnocentric and nepotistic groups, why don't we remove those people -regardless of their ethnicity- from our country?
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>>244446
No, see, they only hate that Jews are better at nationalism than whites.
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>>244445
>probably the right answer is a combination of the three.
Again I will agree.
>still others would say that Jews engaged in nepotism.
If Jews are willing to use their positions of power for their own ethnic interests and they believe that Europeans are the enemy would it not make sense that they use their positions of power to undermine Europeans?

>>244446
>If what you hate are ethnocentric and nepotistic groups, why don't we remove those people -regardless of their ethnicity- from our country?
Because all groups are ethnocentric. Humans are a kin selecting species. Most people prefer their own BABIES DO THIS. (Sources: https://time.com/67092/baby-racists-survival-strategy/ https://nypost.com/2017/04/13/your-baby-is-a-little-bit-racist-science-says/ )

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>>244448
What I hate is that they seek to undermine my people. I have no problem with someone of another race preferring their own. I believe that is natural. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kin_selection
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>>244443
Claims are not proof, facts, nor evidence. Tapdancing and deflecting again. There is no form of judeo-marxism, judeo-communism, judeo-capitalism, judeo-corporatism, judeo-whateverism that is not deliberately created, calculated, and intended to enslave non-kikes into various forms of willful self-perpetuating slavery. The vast majority of the (((elites))) are nepotistic jews. The vast majority of jews are nepotistic. Nepotism is (((jewish tradition))). A conspiracy isn't a (((hypothesis))), goy. A conspiracy operates under the illusion of legality with the intent to deceive and defraud. The idea that judeo-anything is anti-religious = classic kike doublethink. Athiesm is a lack of (((belief))) in deities. What is your point, except for trying to deceive?
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>>244449
>If Jews are willing to use their positions of power for their own ethnic interests and they believe that Europeans are the enemy would it not make sense that they use their positions of power to undermine Europeans?

Hang on, I never agreed that Jews see Europeans as the enemy. I'm pretty sure most Jews are primarily concerned with themselves and their families like almost everyone.

>Because all groups are ethnocentric. Humans are a kin selecting species.

Racism in the sense of 'ooh, this person looks different, scary' is of course partly genetic, but it is basically a trait that can be learned or unlearned. Almost everything about human beings is potentially plastic and determined by upbringing.

Not to mention that babies almost certainly can't tell the difference between Jews and white people. Racially they are not that distinct.

Anyway, my point would be that racism is something we should just grow out of, it served a certain purpose at one point in our evolution but today it's nothing but a hindrance that causes pointless conflict.

>>244451
Until you start typing less like Francis E. Dec I'm not gonna waste my time on this nonsense.
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>>244452
"LOOK at the picture. SEE the scum."
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>>244453
Learn to communicate like a human being you fucking autist. Your brain has been poisoned by too much exposure to rightism.
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>>244444
>Why do you suppose this is?
I think it's because groups who are excluded and marginalized are more likely to be attracted to universal ideas like socialism/communism. There's an argument to be made that groups that are excluded from nations for example, would see an interest in the destruction of the idea of a nation as a precondition for their emancipation and entry into the social body from which they were excluded. They are the "part-of-no-part" which unsettles the established order and stand for universality.

Also, hello this is my first time posting here.
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>>244449
I've seen those studies before comrade. Don't you think a baby acts that way because their parents, the people who they've spent most of their invariant life with, are the same race as theirs thus seeing comfort in their own race? Hence this being more of an exposure bias rather than an intrinsic one?
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>>244452
>I'm pretty sure most Jews are primarily concerned with themselves and their families like almost everyone.
They are concerned with their communities as a whole. Just like most people. BUT they do see Europeans as an enemy. Groups like the ADL and SPLC especially target whites because they view us as a threat.

>Anyway, my point would be that racism is something we should just grow out of, it served a certain purpose at one point in our evolution but today it's nothing but a hindrance that causes pointless conflict.
You don't just "grow out" of evolutionary programming. Kin selection is the process by which altruism developed. This part of what makes us human.
>Almost everything about human beings is potentially plastic and determined by upbringing.
Why is it that you people stop being materialists the moment that human biology is brought up? Yes environment has an effect on how genes are expressed, but the genes are ultimately the determining factor. A child with down syndrome will never grow up to be a scientist no matter what environment you put them in.

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>>243890
>>243890
Dont you find it suspicious that big uncle Joe Stalin died just after ordering the removal of jews from Russian Europe?
Have you ever even read Marx's axtually good book, Das Kapital, in which he very clearly names the jew and their malign influence?
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Okay, now the big question:

Who is your favorite pony?

(If you haven't watched MLP, you definitely should).
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>>244456
>I've seen those studies before comrade. Don't you think a baby acts that way because their parents, the people who they've spent most of their invariant life with, are the same race as theirs thus seeing comfort in their own race?
No I think it is because they recognize that people are like themselves. Infants have a degree of environmental awareness. Also these aren't the only studies that show these results.
>>244459
Luna is best pony.

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>>244457
>BUT they do see Europeans as an enemy. Groups like the ADL and SPLC especially target whites because they view us as a threat.

Where is the proofs????

Those kind of groups rightly call out white nationalists, fascists, far rightists et cetera. I fail to see how that's 'targetting whites'.

>You don't just "grow out" of evolutionary programming.

Clearly you do, otherwise we could hardly have this whole global society (as imperfect as it is). Humans have had to adapt to changing culture, technology, et cetera.

>Why is it that you people stop being materialists the moment that human biology is brought up?

Part of materialism is accepting the established science which is what I'm doing right now.

>Yes environment has an effect on how genes are expressed, but the genes are ultimately the determining factor. A child with down syndrome will never grow up to be a scientist no matter what environment you put them in.

Granted, but that's a bit of an extreme example don't you think? Most humans don't have severe developmental disorders.

>>244459
Mane 6: Rainbow Dash
Entire cast: Lyra (though that's more due to fan works).
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>>243902
>anarchy
>egoism
So basically you're gonna get murdered by being an edgelord individualist in a world of societies and collectives.
You realize you're basically just as gay as a libertarian?
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>>244454
Here, have one of Francis E. Dec, Esquire's better known letters:
"THERE IS NO ESCAPE FROM THIS WORSE GANGSTER POLICE STATE, USING ALL OF THE DEADLY GANGSTER FRANKENSTEIN CONTROLS. IN 1965 C.I.A. GANGSTER POLICE BEAT ME BLOODILY, DRAGGED ME IN CHAINS from KENNEDY N.Y. AIRPORT. SINCE THEN I HIDE in FORCED JOBLESS POVERTY, ISOLATED ALONE in this LOW DEADLY NIGGERTOWN OLD HOUSE.

THE BRAZEN, DEADLY GANGSTER POLICE AND NIGGER PUPPET UNDERLINGS SPRAY ME WITH POISON NERVE GAS from AUTOMOBILE EXHAUSTS AND EVEN LAWN MOWERS, DEADLY ASSAULTS. EVEN IN MY YARD, WITH KNIVES, EVEN BRICKS and STONES, EVEN DEADLY TOUCH TABIN, or ELECTRIC SHOCK “FLASH LITES”, EVEN REMOTE ELECTRONICALLY CONTROLLED AROUND CORNERS TRAJECTION of DEADLY TOUCH TARANTULA SPIDERS, OR EVEN BLOODY MURDER “ACCIDENTS” TO SHUT ME UP FOREVER WITH A “SNEAK UNDETECTABLE EXTERMINATION”, EVEN WITH TRAINED PARROTING PUPPET ASSASSINS, IN MAXIMUM SECURITY INSANITY PRISON FOR WRITING THESE UNFORGIVABLE, TRUTHFUL LETTERS.

UNTIL MY “UNDETECTABLE EXTERMINATION”, I, FRANCIS E. DEC, ESQUIRE, 29 MAPLE AVENUE, HEMPSTEAD, N.Y. I STAND ALONE AGAINST YOUR MAD DEADLY WORLD-WIDE CONSPIRATORIAL GANGSTER COMPUTER GOD COMMUNISM WITH WALL to WALL DEADLY GANGSTER PROTECTION, LIFE LONG SWORN CONSPIRATORS MURDER INCORPORATED ORGANIZED CRIME, THE POLICE AND JUDGES, the DEADLY SNEAK PARROTING PUPPET GANGSTERS USING ALL THE GANGSTER DEADLY FRANKENSTEIN CONTROLS.

UNTIL MY “UNDETECTABLE EXTERMINATION”, I, FRANCIS E. DEC, ESQUIRE, 29 MAPLE AVENUE, HEMPSTEAD, N.Y. I STAND ALONE AGAINST YOUR MAD DEADLY WORLD-WIDE CONSPIRATORIAL GANGSTER COMPUTER GOD COMMUNISM WITH WALL to WALL DEADLY GANGSTER PROTECTION, LIFE LONG SWORN CONSPIRATORS MURDER INCORPORATED ORGANIZED CRIME, THE POLICE AND JUDGES, the DEADLY SNEAK PARROTING PUPPET GANGSTERS USING ALL THE GANGSTER DEADLY FRANKENSTEIN CONTROLS.

THESE HANGMAN ROPE SNEAK DEADLY GANGSTERS, THE JUDGES AND THE POLICE trick-trap, rob, wreck, butcher, and murder the people to keep them TERRORIZED IN GANGSTER FRANKENSTEIN EARPHONE RADIO SLAVERY for the COMMUNIST GANGSTER GOVERNMENT and CON ARTIST PARROTING PUPPET GANGSTER PLAY BOY SCUM ON TOP. THE SECRET WORK of ALL POLICE in ORDER to MAINTAIN A COMMUNIST CLOSED SOCIETY.
The same world-wide mad deadly COMMUNIST GANGSTER COMPUTER GOD that CONTROLS YOU AS A TERRORIZED GANGSTER FRANKENSTEIN EARPHONE RADIO SLAVE, PARROTING PUPPET.

YOU ARE A TERRORIZED MEMBER of the “MASTER RACE”, WORLD-WIDE FOUR BILLION EYE-SIGHT TELEVISION CAMERA GUINEA PIG COMMUNIST GANGSTER COMPUTER GOD “MASTER RACE.” YOUR LIVING THINKING MAD, DEADLY WORLD-WIDE COMMUNIST GANGSTER COMPUTER GOD SECRET OVER-ALL PLAN: WORLD-WIDE LIVING DEATH FRANKENSTEIN SLAVERY to EXPLORE AND CONTROL THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE. With the ENDLESS “STAIRWAY TO THE STARS.” Namely the MAN MADE INSIDE-OUT PLANETS with NUCLEONIC POWERED SPEEDS MUCH FASTER THAN THE SPEED OF LIGHT. LOOK UP AND SEE THE GANGSTER COMPUTER GOD CONCOCTED NEW FAKE STARRY SKY. THE WORLD-WIDE COMPLETELY CONTROLLED DEADLY DEGENERATIVE CLIMATE AND ATMOSPHERE. THROUGH THE NEW WORLD ROUND TRANSLUCENT EXOTIC GASEOUS ENVELOPE, WHICH the WORLD-WIDE COMMUNIST GANGSTER COMPUTER GOD MANIPULATES THROUGH COUNTLESS EXACTLY POSITIONED SATELLITES, THE NEW FAKE, PHONY STARS IN THE SYNTHETIC “SKY”.

FOR AGES BEFORE FRANKENSTEIN CONTROLS, APOIDIC NIGERS, INTERBREEDABLE WITH APES HAD NO ALPHABET, NOT EVEN NUMERALS.

SLAVERY CONSPIRACY OVER 300 YEARS AGO, IDEAL TINY BRAIN APOIDIC NIGER GANGSTER GOVERNMENT EYESIGHT T.V. GANGSTER SPY CAMERAS. C. GOD “NEW WORLD ORDER” DEGENERATION with “GIFTED” with ALL GANGSTER FRANKENSTEIN CONTROLS NIGER DEADLY GANGSTER PARROTING PUPPET OR NIGER BRAIN PROGRAMMED ROBOTS DEADLY APE FRANKENSTEIN MACHINES, DEGENERATIVE DISEASE TO ETERNAL FRANKENSTEIN SLAVERY, OVER-ALL PLAN through “ONE WORLD COMMUNISM” (top secret code word), meaning WORLD-WIDE ABSOLUTELY HELPLESS AND HOPELESS SIMPLE LANGUAGE MONGREL MULATTO APOIDIC NIGGERS.

Worldwide SYSTEMATIC INSTANT-PLASTIC SURGERY BUTCHERY MURDER, “FAKE AGING”, SO ALL PEOPLE ARE DEAD OR USELESS BY AGE 70. DONE AT NITE TO YOU AS A FRANKENSTEIN SLAVE. PARROTING PUPPET GANGSTER SLAVE, NOW, EVEN YOU KNOW I AM A MENACE to your world-wide mad deadly COMMUNIST GANGSTER COMPUTER GOD, THEREFORE, I MUST GO TO EXTERMINATION. BEFORE I AM EXTERMINATED BY THIS GANGSTER, COMPUTER GOD CONCOCTED AND CONTROLLED WORSE MONGREL ORGANIZED CRIME MURDER INCORPORATED GANGSTER COMMUNIST GOVERNMENT, I HAND YOU THE SECRETS TO SAVE THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE, AND THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE.

DONATE MONEY OR EVEN A MANUAL TYPEWRITER TO ME, FOR YOUR ONLY HOPE FOR A FUTURE."

You feel better now goy, or are you going to endlessly tapdance and evade criticism?
Anonymous
NO0K+
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No.244465
>>244462
I'm not an anarchist, but that's not really what left-anarchism is, they believe in societies, just with very loose management or control.
Anonymous
wUjLo
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No.244466
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Wait, are you arguing jews are not working together to ensure they become the best race, just like every other race in history has done before them?
Despite all of the evidence sugesting the media being owned mostly by jews?

Golly gee, to discuss politics i can agree but this Is pushing it quite a bit.

If it isnt the jews the ones causing the world to become such shit show, who is anon?
>Pic unrelated
Anonymous
hge6d
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No.244467
244484 244599
>>244456
>Hence this being more of an exposure bias rather than an intrinsic one?
Also it just humans that do this. Even Apes prefer members of their own shrewdness.
>>244461
>Where is the proofs????
They go after anyone who is remotely pro-white. They went after fucking Ramzpaul of all people. Meanwhile they are perfectly fine with pro-black activists or pro-anything else. They have no problems with Israel's treatment of the Palestinians.

>Clearly you do, otherwise we could hardly have this whole global society.
We still have borders and they are their for a reason. Also are you implying that this society is a healthy one?

>Humans have had to adapt to changing culture, technology, et cetera.
Yes we can adapt, but we still have our programming. There will always be constants in human behavior across all cultures. Such as nepotism, greed, and the hunger for power.

>Granted, but that's a bit of an extreme example don't you think? Most humans don't have severe developmental disorders.
Most humans also don't grow up to be the next Einstein. Brain structure determines intelligence and that structure is determined by how your genes interact with the environment.

Anonymous
B7yk3
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No.244472
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Finally an excuse to crosspost veronika
Anonymous
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No.244474
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>>244443
You’re fucking hilarious. Stay a while, your imbecilic circus of a life is amusing. You matriculate to think this “well?” I’d fucking charge back you goddamn monkey.
Anonymous
v+mAW
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No.244482
>>244458
He didn't remove them, he cracked down on pro zionist groups (rather poorly) and then died cuz he was 75 and had a really shitty life.
Also cite the book, find the page, give me proofs
Anonymous
v+mAW
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No.244484
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>>244467
>They go after anyone who is remotely pro-white. They went after fucking Ramzpaul of all people. Meanwhile they are perfectly fine with pro-black activists or pro-anything else.
Probably due to what happened in ww2, so they shit themselves at anything that sounds racistish. But i'm gonna assume you don't believe that shit happened and it is actually a 2000 year plan or something.
>They have no problems with Israel's treatment of the Palestinians.
Probably due to them having a quite similar thinking as your own in regards to historical tragedies. Dindu nuffin i am just taking back the "greater" fatherland
>Also are you implying that this society is a healthy one?
That was not implied, what was implied was that globalisation is an enourmous and artificial phenomenon that we have created regardless of our "natural" impulses.
>Such as nepotism, greed, and the hunger for power.
Have you tried trying to guess why these things exist as they are or are you just gonna assume they have always been there without variation or actual reasoning?

Anonymous
NO0K+
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No.244485
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>>244474
take your meds
Anonymous
VfYoA
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No.244488
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>>244461
>Where is the proofs????

>Those kind of groups rightly call out white nationalists, fascists, far rightists et cetera. I fail to see how that's 'targetting whites'.

Do you seriously believe telling a bunch of rightists that calling out rightists won't be seen as targeting Europeans? I'd be like me telling you leftists are evil so of course they should be banned from the site. Why wouldn't anyone be mad if their beliefs are hated by another group of people?

Anonymous
B7yk3
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No.244489
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haha time for Gomies
Anonymous
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No.244490
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>>244489

Anonymous
B7yk3
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No.244491
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>>244490

Anonymous
VfYoA
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No.244492
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There really isn't as much commie hors art as there is for Aryanne. Leftists need to step it up.
Anonymous
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No.244494
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>>244492
Glimmy glammy gotchu covered

There are a lot of M-L's

What there isn't anything of is anarchommies
Anonymous
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>>244494

Anonymous
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No.244496
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>>244425
>>244435
>>244437
>>244438
>>244451
>>244463
These are low IQ posts. Someone who lacks confidence in being able to disprove and change the other side's assertions is most likely to lash out. Winning an argument requires 1) being civil, 2) understanding where the other side is coming from, 3) pointing out the flaws in that reasoning, 4) presenting an alternative, and 5) demonstrating comprehensive evidence that supports your case. Sadly I'm not seeing any of that from "da j00s" people, even though there's plenty of evidence and analytical reasoning that COULD BE used. Their assuming that the other side is being ignorant for not accepting the Jewpill (though it's the mainstream view and the burden of proof is on them) when it's an attendant issue that's not wholly crucial here. After all, before Marx the most influential philosopher on left-wing thought was Jean-Jacques Rousseau, who if I'm not mistaken was a gentile.

Instead I'll point that the extremely variable IQ existing in this thread is evidence that people are not equal and therefore egalitarianism can never work. As IQ is largely heritable some people are smarter by nature and others are dumber, and no amount of "emancipation" can correct this.

>>244452
Ah, the blank slate theory. The whole "nature vs. nurture" question has been going on for some time but claiming that all differences can be eliminated through better environments has not seen validation. After all, a pug cannot be trained to act like a border collie as good as a border collie can. If you believe in evolution then differences seen in animals, both physical and mental attributes, should also logically apply to humans. Implying otherwise necessitates that "evolution stopped at the neck" and people are mentally interchangeable just because, which is really just a form of creationism. In other words, equality is a spook.
https://mises.org/library/egalitarianism-revolt-against-nature-0

>>244461
>humans have had to adapt
Of course, humans have had to adapt in order to survive. This adaptability necessitates risk, because whenever you change you risk making conditions worse. Therefore people avoid unnecessary risk and stick to certain sets of behavior that have been demonstrated to aiding in survival.

>part of materialism is accepting the established science
Is Marxism established science? If so, why isn't it taught in economics classrooms? Also, what is your view regarding Lysenkoism?
Also, how do gauge what is "established?" Do you look at pop science articles and are those really good enough? Or do we have to look deeper?
https://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/07/18/what-the-experts-really-think-about-race-realism-and-white-nationalism-or-at-least-ideas-pertaining-to-it/
Anonymous
hge6d
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No.244497
245026
>>244484
>But i'm gonna assume you don't believe that shit happened
Oh I believe it, but I don't think it came out of nowhere.
> globalisation is an enourmous and artificial phenomenon that we have created regardless of our "natural" impulses.
We have created something that is unhealthy and dysfunctional, because it goes against our natural impulses.
>Have you tried trying to guess why these things exist as they are or are you just gonna assume they have always been there without variation or actual reasoning?
Nepotism exists because we are kin selecting species. Greed exists because it is always better to have an abundance of resources. The hunger for power exists because it is better to be at the top of a hierarchy than at the bottom. I would like to point out that again these phenomenon do not only exist in humans. Plenty of other animals compete with each other for resources and dominance. Plenty of animals put pack members above outsiders. Nature selected for these traits. That is why we have them.
Anonymous
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No.244498
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>>244485
Eat a bullet Moishe.

>>244496
You honor me with your obvious slander, Abraham, truly. Tel Aviv is sending the D squad today I see.


sage
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No.244503
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>>244496
>b-be c-c-civil y-you st-stupid goy i'm trying to h-h-help cuck y-you
>the j-jews are ju-just n-naturally s-s-smarter
Shitty ad hominems, tu quoque, moving the goalposts, composition/division, appeal to emotion, circular reasoning, and argument from popularity off yet another lemming. If the plan was to be outed it worked quite well. Shilling a degenerate, traitorous ideology based on creating a doublethink enslaved, self-hating, self-perpetuating class of goyim, then presupposing there SHOULD be (((middle ground))) between the known enemy and the opponents said enemy is trying desperately to enslave? Is that it? Little more than common Frankfurt School of kikery ad hom deflections and Nietschze styled pseudo-scientific psychobabble dismissals? It is impossible to expect (((middle ground))) when what (you) offer in return is dehumanizing degeneracy? Not valid arguments. Keep shilling for those shekels goy, maybe they'll give you a blond haired, blue eyed, white skinned slave soon.
Anonymous
P28cU
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No.244504
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>>244503
Real talk brother, u think these clowns are high caste? These fools are sucking high caste smegma off esteemed Rabbis in the NYC coma words to pay off their LibArts college debt, in between posts, 'cuz themsz gud lil goiuhm
Anonymous
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No.244506
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>>244503
Easy, the thread is under control and the poners are well aware that those shilling want us dead.

sage
hY5ji
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No.244512
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>>244504
Not one iota. Insinuating a glownigger's uselessness by comparing them to a more valuable yet infinitely more degenerate and despised kike creates division in the ranks. Math is fun.

>>244506
>thread under control
>judeo-bolshevik lover
>self-confirmed for glownigger
>glownigger shills in favor of extra large kikery
>allowing confirmed glownigger to shill for 24+ hours
>allowing confirmed glownigger
Failing to accept a responsibility means dealing with the consequences, correct? That, or someone buckled under pressure and "didn'wanna do it 'cuz dat's mean".
Anonymous
dsQQF
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No.244513
>>244512
Okay.
Anonymous
32dMY
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No.244516
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>>244512
You need to relax.
It looks like (YOU) lost control and making a fuzz.
Let the enemy talk, we already know their deeds and what their plans are, and they'll pay for their crimes one way or another. So, tone it down fren.
Anonymous
B7yk3
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No.244517
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ENOUGH TALK
HAVE AT YOU
Anonymous
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No.244518
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>>244517

Anonymous
B7yk3
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No.244519
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>>244518
As a libertarian, I choose >>244512
I am sorry anon, it was meant to be.
War does not determine who is right – only who is dry
Anonymous
VfYoA
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No.244521
244522 244523
>>244503
Is it bad that I read that first part in my head as Coco prattling that out apologetically while she was getting fucked?

Anonymous
B7yk3
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No.244522
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>>244521
I was having a deadly confrontation with that poster

Now you deflated the tension of the moment
Anonymous
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No.244523
>>244521
If anything, you increased the quality of the post
sage
hY5ji
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>>244519
Instructions unclear, please provide alternate data streams.
Anonymous
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No.244527
>>244496
>Sadly I'm not seeing any of that from "da j00s" people, even though there's plenty of evidence and analytical reasoning that COULD BE used
Thank you for pointing this out, but in general ignore those who make the low effort posts on our own side and warn others to do the same. Mark Twain once said, "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience."
Anonymous
B7yk3
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No.244537
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Are yall upitty to argue more or want to go to bed

There is one good and bad answer

Anonymous
/4WVU
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No.244538
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>>244537
Argue!
Anonymous
cHHUo
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No.244540
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>>243897
>Discussion with the enemy
This time has long passed. If you really need to speak with someone on the opposing team at this point, you are an idiot.

>Poster says "Islam is RIGHT about Women"
>Women see it
>Don't understand it
>It is still bad
>Truly, Islam is RIGHT about Women
The above situation explains why we are at an impasse in very few words.

>Reality can no longer be discussed
>Not even as parody
>Living in Clown World means there are no jokes and everything absurd is true
>Men are women and blacks are kings
>Reality is unrealistic
>People will beat you or steal your money if you even attempt to refute their 'version' of 'reality'
>Even if you attempt to agree with them, you are wrong for 'x' reason
>You are too white/cisgendered/xphobic/rich/poor/uneducated/etc to understand
The only response to this insanity is to stop responding to it, stop interacting with it, and create your own community without them.

Fuck leftists. Communism for the Right is Nationalism, and is Death for Leftist (Globalist) Communist. That is all we have in common - Communism, but a debate on the limits of who exactly is your neighbor and friend.
Anonymous
bQf7t
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No.244541
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>>244540
It is impossible to withdraw from the world, unfortunately. In order to understand what makes people tick, you must understand their motivations and reasoning. At best, you may be able to bring them over to your side by correcting falsehoods. At worst, you may be able to anticipate their behavior and use this to your advantage. So long as you are rational there can be no downsides to debate.

After all, if debate wasn't an enormous benefit for /ourside/ then why would we be blocked from it? A Jared Taylor on national television could sway thousands. Obviously this thread has much less reach but addressing the strongest arguments here is excellent practice for when you inevitably meet someone with lefty views.
Anonymous
B914g
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No.244542
244546
>>243890
>I am against capitalism because it creates overreaching governments that are controlled by small groups of individuals.

Do you know what is wrong with the Marxists and NatSoc's AnarchoCaps, Liberatians and all the rest of the dipshit left and right?

Go far enough in either direction and both sides know that there is a huge underlying problem but each fail to realize that it isn't Capitalism. Capitalism is that you work, you sell your products, you profit. What backs that profit is substance. What every nation has isn't substantial in anyway, it is 1's and 0's called "credit" and paper bills that are promise notes. No gold nor silver backs it and labor in itself doesn't as well.

Bargaining used to be a way of currency."Hey you want these fine linens? You are a plumber right? I have a leaky sink, fix it and I will give you these fine linens." But as people grew and grew in population, and technology made production greater with far greater outreach, how are you going to trade linens for a plumber when you live in France and you are trading with China? The Silk Road brought many silks for spices and vice versa.

Coinage was invented for the purpose of backing the worth of goods that wasn't localized and for a time, all was good. But very moderly, like with in 200 years, coinage became IOU's because of world war that took everything from the treasuries of each nation as each nation begged to not be exterminated. And here we are today.

What we have today very much is an Oligarchy and not Capitalism. Busineses have more power and control than even the government and those in the government funnel power through dealings with the companies that they own no part there of all to push politicians to lobby on their behalf. If a Solar Flare of X Class or greater wiped off the worlds grid, we all would be screwed because our money would be worthless.

Want to fix the world, first get us back on labor that counts for its own work.

Anonymous
cHHUo
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No.244543
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>>244541
If you already understand your enemies, there is no reason to debate. Evil is evil, good is good, friends are on my side, enemies are not. It's fairly simple.

>So long as you are rational there can be no downsides to debate
They are a waste of time and energy if you know the answers. At best, it is simply a fascade of civility to show off to your peers. At worst, you are allowing enemy actions to occur while you are busy talking and sipping tea with their talking heads.

There are downsides to endless debate, and the answer at the end of the day is obscene and righteous violence.
Anonymous
dsQQF
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No.244544
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>>244540
>Discussion with the enemy
>This time has long passed.
You are right about this.
Commies want the West collapse for them achieve their revolution and take over.
From the chaos they sincerely believe can overcome the right.
What these cone heads are unable to grasp is that there are way (((bigger forces))) at play that also want to take power, but using these antifas and assorted collaborators as foot soldiers.
Also the new commies are totally Judaised as they embrace every degeneracy thrown to them and engage in open treason against their own people. Not dialog is possible and I am afraid given all the hostile acts committed, in a not distant future only bullets will settle the issue.
May God have mercy upon them.
Anonymous
B914g
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No.244545
>>244544
You can't reason with an enemy which is bent on your own destruction at any cost but for the few on the fringe of falling off the cliff, they can be pulled back from falling off.

The schools, media, and far left try to recruit ever more into the radicalization of the youths. These youths are the only worth while people to talk to because they still have some sense of reason. Everyone else is lost.
Anonymous
cHHUo
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No.244546
244551
>>244542
No civilization was built on bargaining or barter - they were built on social credit.
>"Oh you need a pair of shoes?"
>"My wife is making a new one for me, take these old ones"

>2 months later
>You capture a deer
>"Hey that's some nice deer there, anon. Let's have a barbecue and celebrate!"
>You share it with this guy, because he shared a pair of shoes with you when you didn't have any

>Social cohesion and homogeneity are the groundwork for civilization
>Not work
>Not money
>Not physical goods
>Social cohesion - you as an individual are worth something to me, and I to you
>"You scratch my back, I scratch yours"
This system has long been broken down, and everyone hates each other, and working for each other.

>>244544
Commies don't want chaos though. They want a slow rotting collapse so they can post up a nice picture in place of a house, so they can play pretend in an abandoned and dirty shack. They want to lie to themselves about their perfect world, and burn unbelievers outside on the lawn for all to see. That is how they will know they are righteous.

They can't do that if the whole house catches on fire. They would have no idea how to build one from scratch.

Anonymous
bQf7t
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No.244547
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>>244543
>If you already understand your enemies
You may understand Marxism as viewed from the right but you may not understand it from the left unless if you've actually read about it. As the people from /leftypol/ say, their views are not just from Das Kapital although it undoubtedly had a large influence. Many adhere to views from Stirner, Kropotkin, Proudhon, Žižek, and others who lie outside the mainstream left and have a distinctive take. Understanding and addressing each in turn gives you the tools to counter intellectual maneuvering and even develop a wholistic analysis of left-wing thought. Otherwise you'll expose weaknesses that your opponents can exploit.

>the answer at the end of the day is obscene and righteous violence
Whoever initiates overt violence first usually loses.

I guess I should be asking you, why are you even in this thread if you simply want to express disapproval?
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>>244544
Sad but true.
Anonymous
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>>244547
>Spouting names
>Not ideas
You are a spook, kiddo, and I mean that in the Stirner sense of the word.

>Whoever initiates overt violence first usually loses
Tell that to the Roman Empire that spanned hundreds of years, particularly the years under Marius and the Marian reforms.

>Why are you here
To talk to the audience, not /leftypol/. I don't argue with my enemies, I state things so that friends I have never met will nod in agreement, and affirm that we are on the same page. 'Let he who has ears, let him hear,' so to speak.
Anonymous
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>>244546
>Social Cohesion
You have a point. Society is built on having like goals, ideologies, language, and traditions. When everyone works together to meet those same goals then we profit as a society.

The Whole, "I scratch your back if you scratch mine" pretty much is what barter is. "I want this, what will you give for that?" The problem though is that you must have someone already willing to scratch your back to give yourself any value. If a woman is only good at making linens, how is she to compete to the carpenter that builds houses? The carpenter needs nails not cloth. The Linen maker needs needles and thread to tailor more clothes. So on and so on. But the next town over is willing to trade nails for cloth and so on and so forth. Again why we have coinage. Before coins however, it was something else. Food.

Salt especially in the deserts and the old phrase being, "You don't work, you don't eat." You can't have a society if no one is willing to work for it.

Anonymous
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No.244552
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>>244541
>Evil is evil, good is good, friends are on my side, enemies are not. It's fairly simple.
You are a funny and likely young (or just plain naive) idealist. I'm a realist and overall even if you are at to an extent that we more or less need to get over the boomer meme of debate being something we should at all cost allow this thread is more or less evidence of where it is vital. Here are the things your idealistic tendencies are blinding you to.
1. It helps unite those becoming disenchanted.
2. It is natural selection for bad arguments and those who can't make good arguments.
3. It when done with those open minded can win over new frens.
4. It can prove you wrong on something you've taken for granted.

This all said a containment thread is fine but allowing it to run rampant is how the right lost the university system. But we still need to have it to some degree.
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>>244551
All of what you said is true. However, it is all predicated on an unsaid statement:
>If you work for me, I won't screw you
>You are a friend to me
>I will not abuse you
>Let us work together for our own mutual benefit
This doesn't work in a place where people have drastically different world views, or different definitions that cannot be agreed upon. Coinage only works if everyone agrees on what money is. Carpenters need nails for houses if people don't live in mud huts. The people in the town next door need to speak the same language for trade to work, or they need to have a shared understanding of value. If they don't, you get fucked over with glass beads, wampum, and trinkets while they buy your land with the lint in their pockets.

That isn't how societies prosper. That's how wars start and enemies are made - disagreement on basic definitions of things (values, religious statements, 'obvious' platitudes).

So it boils down to social cohesion and homogeneity.

>Idealist
I think I've been pretty realist so far. My statement you highlighted is not a naive statement. A naive statement would be:
>This person is acting in his own best interest
>Clearly this will benefit me as well
>I will ignore the knife in his hand, as he surely believes in the sanctity of human life as I do
>He definitely does not have a differing opinion on the definitions of "human," "life," and "self interest."

>2. It is natural selection for bad arguments and those who can't make good arguments
That's true of every thread, though, and you didn't even address anything I said specifically. You just called me young, naive, blind, and then got on horse higher than Moses and threw some tablets at me.

Come at me bruh. Argue.
Anonymous
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No.244557
>>244552
>>244556
Meant to tag you at >Idealist.
Anonymous
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>>244556
Not the same guy, I feel like hopping into this conversation from a more Orthodox Marxist standpoint. When I say Orthodox Marxist I mean that even though there has been relevant revolutionary theory to come out with each revolution, I feel as if justifications for their later reformist policies lie upon a post hoc justification with dialectical materialism (just so you know a little about my mindset going in).
>This doesn't work in a place where people have drastically different world views, or different definitions that cannot be agreed upon.
However, it is possible to spread ideas subconsciously through culture by making it normal. The Overton window would be a good indicator of how society can shift ideals if pushed in said direction.
>Coinage only works if everyone agrees on what money is.
Even the market right now in its current form. The US has been off the gold standard for decades yet for some reason our sense of wealth seems to exist from thin air through speculation. This is also what allows things like MMT to exist without it completely fucking up everything.
>That isn't how societies prosper. That's how wars start and enemies are made - disagreement on basic definitions of things (values, religious statements, 'obvious' platitudes).
Well, capitalism seems to be widely accepted as the main form of economy despite it being one of the many systems that have existed throughout human history. Its not entirely impossible to create a form of common sense which we can all recognize.
>So it boils down to social cohesion and homogeneity.
Its possible to accomplish as you can see from today's dominant economy and form of common sense.

(keep in mind that I skipped a lot of the thread and im sort of taking this at face value and without as much context as the other guy)

Anonymous
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>>243970
I went to your board and I was banned for asking people’s opinions on the Jews, we don’t fear question or others opinions unlike your board we aloud you to have a thread up here and aloud you to spread your Jewish propaganda and I can’t give my opinion or ask question on your board without being banned you and your board are biggest faggots and hive minded npc I have ever seen please do the world favour and kys

Anonymous
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>>244556
>A naive statement would be:
Don't care honestly its naive because people change political views or are only political as they are due to dialectics. Thus especially on the latter you only need debate someone find that they are dialectically left wing but right wing ideologically and then make it evident. Thus right good, left bad naive imo.
>That's true of every thread
I wish, we've hardly had selective pressures, this place has become a safe space for a lot of cringe.
>even address anything I said specifically
I mean, to be fair you said very little, I just found the idea of right always good left always bad, so you should ignore them as a bad and idealistically driven idea. None of the other points were interesting enough to respond to.
Anonymous
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>>244556
>All of what you said is true. However, it is all predicated on an unsaid statement

Man is full of faults and we are not perfect beings. We lie, we cheat, we steal, we murder, fornicate, and manipulate all in our favor. At the very basic level is that understanding that we all have and is why many are weary of outsiders. Do we trust them? Do we allow them into our homes and hearth and give them hospitality or do we exterminate them with out prejudice?

Failure to communicate leads only to frustration but it isn't without reason to know that people are not with out reason. We are greedy beings, and as such see greater things and we want them.

"Hey Red Man, we have shiny new boom stick that will help you defeat your enemy if you trade with us and teach us how to farm these lands" said the European Settler. And lo, the Cherokee's obtained rifles from the White Man.

As humans we make the effort to bridge the gaps that separate us, and in turn use others to increase our gains. When they are no longer satisfied, we throw them out like yesterday's trash. There is no perfect system and solve all as the answer to all because Mankind isn't perfect.

On earth we all have lived here a long time that we have bridged many gaps between us. Coinage has been long used as a homogeneous way that we value such things as Needs of Food,Shelter,and clothing. That Coinage became valuable because we value gold and silver.

When comes the time we span our reach to the stars, colonize other bodies other than the earth, I am sure society will vastly change in what it values and beliefs they share.
Anonymous
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No.244571
>>244562
Sorry my auto correct is fucked
>>243970
>I went to your board, and I was banned for asking people’s opinions on the Jews, we don’t fear question or others opinions unlike your board we allowed you to have a thread up here and allowed you to spread your Jewish propaganda and I can’t give my opinion or ask question on your board without being banned you and your board are the biggest faggots and hive minded npc I have ever seen please do the world favor and kys
Anonymous
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>>244466
>If it isnt the jews the ones causing the world to become such shit show, who is anon?

Capitalists. Some of who are Jews but mostly not.

>>244467
>They go after anyone who is remotely pro-white. They went after fucking Ramzpaul of all people.

"In 2016 Ramsey was a featured speaker at a November 2016 National Policy Institute conference, an organization founded by alt-right spokesman Richard B. Spencer."

Lol, where is the injustice.

>Meanwhile they are perfectly fine with pro-black activists or pro-anything else. They have no problems with Israel's treatment of the Palestinians.

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/ideology/black-nationalist

SPLC is about American groups so Israel isn't really relevant to them. The ADL is a pro-Jewish/Zionist org I will agree, but that doesn't make them wrong to call out fascists.

>We still have borders and they are their for a reason. Also are you implying that this society is a healthy one?

My point was simply that our primitive monkey brains were not designed for global society but we have had to adapt to deal with it.

>Yes we can adapt, but we still have our programming. There will always be constants in human behavior across all cultures. Such as nepotism, greed, and the hunger for power.

Humans are intrinsically greedy but they're also intrinsically altruistic. It's our societies that shape these tendencies and determine which are the most expressed. Of course there are people naturally more greedy/selfless but that's not an issue for leftism in any way.

>Most humans also don't grow up to be the next Einstein. Brain structure determines intelligence and that structure is determined by how your genes interact with the environment.

Okay, and so? What's your point?

>Do you seriously believe telling a bunch of rightists that calling out rightists won't be seen as targeting Europeans? I'd be like me telling you leftists are evil so of course they should be banned from the site. Why wouldn't anyone be mad if their beliefs are hated by another group of people?

There's groups that target commies that I hate, but that doesn't mean those orgs 'target whites' just because I'm white.

>Ah, the blank slate theory. The whole "nature vs. nurture" question has been going on for some time but claiming that all differences can be eliminated through better environments has not seen validation. After all, a pug cannot be trained to act like a border collie as good as a border collie can. If you believe in evolution then differences seen in animals, both physical and mental attributes, should also logically apply to humans. Implying otherwise necessitates that "evolution stopped at the neck" and people are mentally interchangeable just because, which is really just a form of creationism. In other words, equality is a spook.

Complete strawman. Marxism is not pic related. We don't believe everyone is the same.

>Of course, humans have had to adapt in order to survive. This adaptability necessitates risk, because whenever you change you risk making conditions worse. Therefore people avoid unnecessary risk and stick to certain sets of behavior that have been demonstrated to aiding in survival.

Racism is not a good survival strategy in the 20th/21st century, just ask all the victims of genocide, ethnic civil wars, et cetera.
Anonymous
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>>244599
Latter half is a reply to
>>244496

Anonymous
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>>244599
>mostly not
"Mostly" in a generally loose sense. It's estimated that approximately 40% of U.S. billionaires are Jewish in heritage or religion. Moreover, they tend to be concentrated in areas such as media and banking where their influence over public affairs is much broader, while gentile billionaires (whether WASPs or not) have tended to make their fortunes in manufacturing, retail, etc. That 2% of the population exerts such influence ought to be concerning regardless of one's prior opinions regarding Jews. In addition, it is the same across most Western countries; Sweden's banking and media industries are also wholly owned by Jews.

>where is the injustice
If you've ever watched Ramzpaul you'd realize that he is the most moderate, Jared Taylor type of "white nationalist" if indeed he can be classified as one. His views align more closely with Paul Gottfried. Merely speaking at a particular conference cannot be used as evidence that "he deserved it" (or a lot of people would be damned, left or right) and he has criticized Spencer amply since then. Generally speaking, if you want to have an opposition you want someone like him rather than the "debate is fruitless, violence is the only answer" types.

>make them wrong to call out fascists
So you agree with their mission and practices? I've always found it ironic how people on the left claim to be "fighting the system" yet support such institutions that stifle speech for anyone else. I'm sure if the SPLC was targeting radical left-wing groups instead you would change your tune. Also, black nationalists are increasingly targeted nowadays due to anti-Jewish rhetoric.

>Humans are intrinsically greedy but they're also intrinsically altruistic. It's our societies that shape these tendencies and determine which are the most expressed. Of course there are people naturally more greedy/selfless but that's not an issue for leftism in any way.
It's almost as if you can't control for this and so the only solution would be to associate freely and develop institutions that take such things into account.

>We don't believe everyone is the same.
Then by definition certain classes of people (such as the more intelligent, ambitious, forward-thinking) would tend to rise in society and be more successful than others. Doesn't that go against Marxism?

>just ask all the victims of genocide, ethnic civil wars, et cetera.
Such things tend to occur when peoples are mashed together with no way to freely disassociate. Radical secession is the only solution to this.

>>244601
In the words of P.J. O'Rourke, "No one fantasizes about being raped by a liberal."
Anonymous
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>>244599
>SPLC and ADL aren’t wrong
https://youtu.be/YBNLSQz0Tc8
https://youtu.be/qklcEWWqzfw
>racism is not a good survival strategy
https://youtu.be/9PSaZRNqE08

You are too low effort to take seriously. Anyone can see the holes in your logic or that you are just plain wrong. You don’t even have to be that far right to see this as evidenced by these videos.
Anonymous
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>>244629
>"Mostly" in a generally loose sense. It's estimated that approximately 40% of U.S. billionaires are Jewish in heritage or religion. Moreover, they tend to be concentrated in areas such as media and banking where their influence over public affairs is much broader, while gentile billionaires (whether WASPs or not) have tended to make their fortunes in manufacturing, retail, etc. That 2% of the population exerts such influence ought to be concerning regardless of one's prior opinions regarding Jews. In addition, it is the same across most Western countries; Sweden's banking and media industries are also wholly owned by Jews.

It doesn't concern me because I oppose the control of billionaires and CEOs to begin with - you'd be perfectly happy with a tiny minority controlling popular media as long as it was white people. Makes no sense to me that you are terrified of Jews when they do it.

>If you've ever watched Ramzpaul you'd realize that he is the most moderate, Jared Taylor type of "white nationalist" if indeed he can be classified as one.

Lawl. There's no such thing as a 'moderate white nationalist'.

>So you agree with their mission and practices? I've always found it ironic how people on the left claim to be "fighting the system" yet support such institutions that stifle speech for anyone else.

"anyone else" meaning literal Nazis. Yes, I oppose neoliberalism but that doesn't mean I support fascism either. When the police are cracking down on leftist protestors and the like you guys are perfectly happy to support them and celebrate it. I will never apologise for opposing fascism by any means available.

>I'm sure if the SPLC was targeting radical left-wing groups instead you would change your tune.

"I'm sure if this thing you like did things you didn't like, you wouldn't like it"

shocking insights.

>It's almost as if you can't control for this and so the only solution would be to associate freely and develop institutions that take such things into account.

Socialism does have institutions that take that into account.

>Then by definition certain classes of people (such as the more intelligent, ambitious, forward-thinking) would tend to rise in society and be more successful than others. Doesn't that go against Marxism?

No, because you don't understand what Marxism is. Socialism is about a co-operative society for the benefit of everyone. It's not the belief that everyone is the same or equally skilled. If you are gifted at maths, you're more likely to go work on the space program, if you're a literary genius, you're likely to write, if you're not especially great at anything like most people, well, you're like most people and will do some job best suited for the skills you have. That's not 'against Marxism', because the core of Marxism is "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs". That is, society expects more from the people with high ability, and gives more to those who are in greater need. The most gifted will have to perform the most difficult and high-status work, and while this is a reward in a way (an astronaut will always be more socially feted than a janitor) it's also a burden - the most able are expected to use their talents in service of the community. Since socialism wouldn't allow a top scientist or whatever to continually accumulate wealth and lord it over his lessers, it's not really an issue.

>Such things tend to occur when peoples are mashed together with no way to freely disassociate. Radical secession is the only solution to this.

Lol. If there was the radical secession you wanted, people would just find smaller and smaller things to fight about. It's no coincidence that as society has got larger and more global, racial distinctions have got more and more broad. 1000 years ago all the subcategories that you now call 'white' were fighting each other to the death over the tiniest cultural differences between them. And thousands of years before that, tribes who were genetically identical would wipe each other out. The only way to stop racial violence is to move to a post-racial society.

>>244631
>You don’t even have to be that far right to see this as evidenced by these videos.

>guy posting with a literal Nazi pic
Anonymous
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Okay quick question to you leftyfaggs. Do you acknowledge that the holocaust was a hoax? And do you deny the political importance it had and still has today?
Anonymous
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You are posting in a a Fednigger D/C & Slide thread.
Anonymous
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I can smell the fucking antiseptics used in your cubicles you dredie-fed chomo chucklefucks. Can you guys at least send the fucking second string, lmao. You can't even handle one of us. You need to be fucking retrained.

LMAO
Anonymous
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>>243890
KYS.
Anonymous
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>>243890
Communism is Judaism.
Anonymous
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No.244653
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>>244638
No and no
Anonymous
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>>244562
We don't fear you, we just think you are retarded
Anonymous
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>>244639
Yeah the fucking FBI are here to disrupt MLPol. You got me.
Anonymous
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I have a question for any Marxists. How do you respond to criticism that your ideology is jewish? I've always been under the impression that there were many jews in communist movements, but Stalin hated the Jews so that stopped being a thing. Is that correct? Is it right to say that because you reject racialism that you think it is irrelevant if jews are/were/would be a large part of any Marxist movement?
Anonymous
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>>244655
I didn't say FBI, why would you? Sardonic admission to deflect suspicion is in the training material. Do your homework you simpy psuedospook fuck.


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>>244654
>we just think you are retarded
It's not nice to lie, anon. :)
If that where true, then anyone pointing out the works of the kikes would be merely laughed at as flat-earthers and such are laughed at. But we both know that is not the reaction that is given to those who name the jew.
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>>244656
>Question for any Marxists. How do you respond to criticism that your ideology is jewish?
We ask you, what do you mean by jewish?
>Stalin hating Jews
He made it ilegal to be an anti semite, he just hated zionism, not because it turned out to be fascist but also US aligned
Anonymous
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>>244659
I don't think you understand anon, we think of you as literal children. Which i guess is unfair but then again our experience with you has not been great.
Anonymous
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>>244660
The fucking brains on this one, mien got...
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>>244661
>we think of you as literal children.
Of course, how silly of me. Everyone always screams and cries and demands bans and arrests whenever a child says something silly. Why, simply saying you believe in Santa Clause can earn a child a lifetime in jail. How could I have forgotten that?
Thanks for setting me straight, anon. :)
Anonymous
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>>244660
But didn't the USSR and all its socialist allies except Yugoslavia vote to approve the UN resolution creating Israel and Palestine? Why would Stalin do that if he hated Zionism?
Anonymous
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No.244665
What the fuck Is happening in this thread
I'll post a serious reply like today but heck step it down with the non-arguments.
Anonymous
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Why do communists love trannies so much?
Anonymous
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>>244666
Because they are degenerate mendacious predators that seek to invert the natural order. Thank you for asking, Satan.
Anonymous
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>>244664
Back when Israel was being created it seemed prudent to form a State for the Jews since it was they had been asking for over 60 years by then, the plan to put Israel in palestine was made in the US by a group Evangelicals(the true evil religion if ask me) and jews, believe it or not zionism was that popular among jews since most of them saw it as exile instead of freedom.
Remember when i said "put" instead of "make" palestine into Israel? The original plan was to settle and that was that, the Soviets saw no issue with this and Stalin believed they could influence it to become Soviet aligned like Egypt and Iraq, Zionism could have been Ba'athism but jewish, but the zionists made deals with Britain and America to develop it in infraestructure and and security since the zionists were very anti arab and saw themselves as surrounded (retarded i know).
Also zionists started killing palestinians which made them look like shit in the eyes of the Soviets and anybody who wasn't america aligned
Anonymous
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>>244668
*was NOT that popular
Anonymous
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>>244669
A friendly reminder.
Anonymous
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>>244662
May i ask what is the issue?
Anonymous
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>>244653
Lmao if you'd acknowledge that it was a hoax one could take you seriously. There is not a single person that has studied the holoax and honestly believes it to be true.
Anonymous
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No.244673
I leave the thread for a couple days, I come back, and everything has turned into a dumpster fire. The hell happened?
Anonymous
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>>244666
They don't like established religion because they think it is a tool used by the bourgeoisie to control the masses. Therefore there isn't any reason to oppose traditional gender norms. I know Communists used to be anti-tranny but that has changed around the late 80s to nineties. Of course it probably still depends on the subgroup.

>>244668
That makes sense when considering everything I've read about the issue. But Stalin did also have a autonomous Oblast he created in Russia before Israel was formed. I don't know if you'd call that Zionism or not. Just some quick google searches about the topic of Stalin's policy regarding jews is all over the place. Like you said earlier he did pass regulations prohibiting antisemitism, but it also appears he became more anti semitic as American interests and Jewish Nationalist interests aligned. What is your opinion on Stalin in general? I know you are a leftist but I don't know what kinda of branch you subscribe to.
Anonymous
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>>244674
*isn't any reason to support traditional gender norms
Anonymous
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>>244663
Wait are you talking irl or in our board? the board has especific rules that ALLOW (not able) Nazis in there, however i have yet to see someone cry to the mods to ban a nazi, most of them just do it on sight since most of your threads are shit and spammy
Anonymous
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>>244671
You are engaged in openly subversive operations on an NS board. Your chicanery is as plain as your mental handicap. I hope you get a demotion.
Anonymous
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>>244678
>NS board
Thought this was an ancap board? Are you one of the 8/pol/ refugees?
Anonymous
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>>244679
It's my understanding that this board is for Mongolian horse whispers. Where the fuck do you think you are?
Anonymous
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>>244678
We're just talking, how is this subversive?
Anonymous
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>>244681
Actually in your case it could be quite beneficial to us. You should be kept alive so that the stupid may not so easily confound the wise.
Anonymous
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>>244674
The Oblast was created because the populace of the Soviet union was still antisemitic(they were catholics) and also due to the progroms the Russian empire imposed upon them (another reason jews flocked to the communist side), the oblast was for self determination and not much more it was kinda shitty btw.
As for what my thoughts on Stalin are, i think he was good for the Soviet union but too paranoid, his experience in the civil war fucked him up pretty bad (the whole allied world tried interved in the civil war on the side of the whites) he trusted no one. Also yeah with age became retarded but the doctors plot was not an antisemitic thing, it was a hoax spread by low ranking party members which Stalin took too seriously.
Anonymous
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No.244684
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>>244682
Whatever schizo
Anonymous
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No.244685
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Anonymous
9IVxb
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No.244686
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>>244674
Also i am not well read enough to take a branch but i believe myself to be ML
Anonymous
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No.244687
>>244672
How many people were in that truck? The thought of it probably being a clown car is hilarious to me
Anonymous
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No.244688
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>>244684
That's hilarious coming from somebody whose lineage consists of one consanguineous conquistador and several buffalo.
Anonymous
M87Uz
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No.244689
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>>244683
>the populace of the Soviet Union were Catholics

Nigger are you retarded?
Anonymous
VfYoA
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No.244692
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>>244686
>>244683
I feel like that is fair enough. I mostly brought the subject up because I think its ironic Nat Socs insist the USSR was super pro jewish when Stalin wasn't super pro jewish. The idea I get from those of you leftists in the thread is that being Jewish is irreverent because you don't believe in racialism, nationalism, culturalism, ect.

It makes me somewhat angry that you say that about jews but then you despise Christianity. Organized Christianity has been part of capitalist governments, monarchies, and other regimes that Marxists despise. I assume that is why you hate it?

So I have to move my question now to center on Christianity. Is it ok to be Christian? If you hate the establishment of the organized Church as part of the bourgeoisie but are ok with individuals having Christian beliefs then that's understandable (even if I don't agree with it). However, if you say Christians should be persecuted but jews are perfectly fine, I think that is completely hypocritical.
Anonymous
OQ55g
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No.244697
244708 244711
>>244683
>>244686
>>244692
If y'all don't mind me tacking on a related question, one that is frequently debated on here on the site, what's the general concenus among the /leftypol/ sphere in regards to pagan religions?

>>244683
Most Russians both now and back then were Eastern Orthodox, not Catholic. Just letting you know.
Anonymous
X0RSe
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No.244704
>>244654
>>244659
>"If that where true, then anyone pointing out the works of the kikes would be merely laughed at as flat-earthers and such are laughed at."
As an eternal fence sitter, and someone who accepts higher average IQ as an explanation for why their are so many Jewish individuals in positions of power, similar to how that's used as an explanation for why so many whites are in positions of power, this sort of thing never fails to make me raise an eyebrow.
The fact that there appears to be some unwritten rule that all Western politicians must kiss the ring of Israel, and to openly criticize them is career suicide.
The fact that efforts are made to silence people who question the holocaust, and make them into pariahs. Rather than just letting them speak, and allowing the apparent heinousness and untruth of what they have to say be apparent to all who hear it, making themselves into pariahs.
Anonymous
9IVxb
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No.244705
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>>244688
Korean immigrant actually, also kow is being mestizo schizo? (Hey it rhymes)
Anonymous
9IVxb
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No.244706
244738
>>244689
ORTHODOX sorry fren
Anonymous
fWj9g
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No.244707
244709
>>244705
Being Brazilian, How do you feel about Bolsonaro?
Anonymous
VfYoA
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No.244708
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>>244697
lol, I don't go on /leftypol/ but I think Neo Pagans are generally spergs rather than serious. However, I don't have a problem with them as long as they don't propagate the constant "lol kike on a stick" rhetoric. I don't believe religion is something you can easily prove or disprove because it relies on the concept of faith. Therefore, I think it would be ignorant of me to shit on pagans. Traditionally pagans are more open to other religions because believing in multiple gods generally means it isn't a far stretch to think other peoples would have their own gods too. I know the idea of faith as a personal matter is generally frowned upon by a lot of Christains, but because faith is organic to the individual it is impossible to try and force it upon anyone.
Anonymous
9IVxb
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No.244709
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>>244707
He's a cuck and a retard, so retarded in fact that lumping him with fascists is a underserved insult to fascism, i say this as a communist.
Also did you know that he used to fuck chikens?
Anonymous
9IVxb
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No.244711
244712 244901
>>244697
>>244692
The leftist stance on races, religions, cultures, and paganism i guess is much more nuanced than that. We simply don't believe these are the base of a civilization, but rather the labor and energy output of a human collective to be the basis of society and progress. Being a christcom, a national liberationist, a fighter for equal racial rights, there is nothing wrong with this as long as your analysis of your situation warrants it or makes it harmless.
We don't hate christianity, if you brought a bible to the party people would only ask for your commitment to secular governance and nothing more. For us religion is just another cultural phenomenon, which like many other cultural things can be barbarous, or civil, or even socialist.
Anonymous
VfYoA
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No.244712
244719
>>244709
That makes me think of another thing. I think it is annoying leftists lump all different rightist groups under the term "fascist." It is just a psyop perpetuated by the USSR. National Socialists are not fascists, Southern Nationalists are not fascists, and Neo Cons of all people are definitely not fascists. I get leftists disagree with all those groups but they are still different from each other. I know rightists like to call everyone left of the Neo Cons Communist but I think that is also disingenuous.

>>244711
Ok, here is another question. Are you for or against armed revolution? I've seen both Marxists and Nat Socs that think it would be the ideal method for implementing their worldview in a government, but I think its completely unrealistic.

Also is there a leftist blackpill equivalent or are you optimistic about the future? I think the concept of nationality, race, and traditional culture is under attack. I also think time has proven conservatives will always cuck themselves and reactionary politics are the only solution. Normies don't like reactionary politics so I don't think any serious change away from inevitably leftist progression over the years is possible. It is a depressing concept that makes me sad every day, but do you guys think that it is inevitable? If so it must bring you great certainty in the future, correct?
Anonymous
fWj9g
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No.244713
244720
>>244709
>Fuck chickens
Wot?
Anonymous
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No.244718
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>>244705
lmfao, you are a stupid fucking gook. Gas yourself you pusillanimous coward.
Anonymous
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No.244719
244721 244901
>>244712
Your first comment:
For us fascism is anything that exist in reaction to communism. This goes for natsocs, nazsyns, mcarthyists, and even neolibs.
We have a very combative base so they just see it all as garbage or fascism.
Fascism much like communism has several different flavors, some are better, some are worse, but still fascism.
Your second comment:
Absolutely in favor of armed conflict, i don't think this board knows this but the term "democratic socialist" means "electoral socialist", these can be revolutionary only difference is that they are not opposed to building a "liberal" like republic with competing parties and whatnot.
Also yeah Leftypol completely and utterly blackpilled, mostly on enviromental matters,
However even then they are not afraid of praxis most(i believe) are actually part of an org.
Also libs keep calling us "red fascist", "tankie", "class reductionist" everytime we try to bring up class relations and capitalist corruption. The propaganda against 20th century socialism doesn't help either. I think you know this quote; "socialism or barbarism" we are living in barbarism fren
Anonymous
HdZO4
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No.244720
244724
>>244713
It's true look it up, this is by far the worst politician to have ever existed.
Anonymous
fWj9g
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No.244721
244726 244729
>>244719
Natsoc=People Above State
Fascism= State above all
Anonymous
fWj9g
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No.244724
244730
>>244720
Gotta link?
Anonymous
VfYoA
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No.244726
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>>244721
I would argue that a Aryan race is the foundation for a National Socialist State, but a fascist state does not require a racially centered state. The fascist state only requires the willingness of the individuals to place the state before themselves. Mussolini was a socialist before he came to believe that nationalism could transcend class conflict.
Anonymous
VfYoA
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No.244727
>>244726
I would like to clarify that I still consider Mussolini a socialist after he became a fascist, I am referring to the fact he was kicked out of the socialist party at the time.
4+y+S
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No.244728
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>“The Naked Communist”....45 goals to destroy the United States of America
>On Jan. 10, 1963, Congressman Albert S. Herlong Jr. of Florida read a list of 45 Communist goals into the Congressional Record. The list was derived from researcher, and former FBI Agent, Cleon Skousen’s book “The Naked Communist.” These principles are well worth revisiting today in order to gain insights into the thinking and strategies of much of our so-called liberal elite:
>Today it is almost complete
Remember anon, never ever give up your rifles and heavy gear.

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>15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the U.S. [Note: In his book, "Reagan’s War," Peter Schweizer demonstrates the astonishing degree to which communists and communist sympathizers have penetrated the Democratic Party. In his book, Schweizer writes about the presidential election of 1979.]

>16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions, by claiming their activities violate civil rights. [Note: This strategy goes back to the founding of the American Civil Liberties Union by Fabian Socialists Roger Baldwin and John Dewey and Communists William Z. Foster and Elizabeth Gurley Flynn among others.]

>17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for Socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

>18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

>19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations that are under Communist attack. [Note:The success of these goals, from a communist perspective, is obvious. Is there any doubt this is so?]

>20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.

>21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV & motion pictures.

>22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all form of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings," substituting shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms.

>23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. " Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."

>24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

>25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio and TV. [Note: This is the Gramscian agenda of the "long march through the institutions" spelled out explicitly: gradual takeover of the "means of communication" and then using those vehicles to debauch the culture and weaken the will of the individual to resist.]

>26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural and healthy." [Note: Today those few who still have the courage to advocate public morality are denounced and viciously attacked. Most Americans are entirely unwitting regarding the motives behind this agenda.]

>27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch." [Note: This has been largely accomplished through the communist infiltration of the National Council of Churches, Conservative and Reform Judaism, and the Catholic seminaries.]

>28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the grounds that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state"

>29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

>30. Discredit the American founding fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

>31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of "the big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over. [Note: Obliterating the American past, with its antecedents in principles of freedom, liberty and private ownership is a major goal of the communists then and now.]

>32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture – education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

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https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/naked-communist45-goals-destroy-united-states-america-waghelstein
Anonymous
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No.244729
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>>244721
For us fascism is just capitalism in decay so whatever
Anonymous
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No.244730
244731
>>244724
Are you okay with them being portuguese?
Anonymous
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No.244731
244732
>>244730
Não ele, mas sim, por favor.
Anonymous
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No.244732
244736
>>244731
O video é uma bosta mas dá pra entender
https://youtu.be/eN3EF-0mAiM
Anonymous
OQ55g
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No.244734
>>244729
I would disagree with that statetment, mostly because fascism (both as the specific ideology and as the generalized term) is a political system whereas capitalism is an economic system.
4+y+S
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No.244735
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>>243890
>we are creating this topic as an outreach program
>outreach program
Does it sound familiar?
Anonymous
/4WVU
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No.244736
244778
>>244732
O contexto deste vídeo?
Desculpe, eu só quero saber se era equivalente a uma saturday night live o ou algo parecido.

Anonymous
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No.244738
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>>244706
Fair enough, the Orthodox Church is known as the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. The Romans have falsely taken the "Catholic" appellation, resulting in some confusion. I'm sure you likely know the meaning of the term. I just couldn't resist jumping on you, fren.
Anonymous
/4WVU
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No.244741
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>>244738
>The Romans have falsely taken the "Catholic" appellation
>falsely
Anonymous
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No.244742
244743
So, about that serious post

National socialism shares some concepts with fascism these being some strong regulations regarding economy and strong regulations regarding personal freedom.
Now, while fascism takes it as "the state > the people" national socialism works on the idea that "The people = The state" but what does this means?
It means that while one focus on making the nation richer and stronger, the other focuses on making the people richer and stronger in order to make the state richer and stronger, you can grasp this by reading some of hitler's quotes and general ideas regarding what politics should be.
Also, national socialism is not a branch of capitalism, it is not even a "complete" ideology as it died back in it's expansionist phase back when ww2 was lost, what happens if national socialism wins? Hard to say as that would imply there is no more land to be conquered within the earth, transhumanism is set as it's end goal thought.
And for national socialism, you dont have to be aryan in order to be natsoc, you have to be an aryan in order to be a nazi.
National socialism can theorically be implemented on any country.
If you smear some shit on whipped cream, it is disastrous for the cream but a critical improvement for the shit.

Should i talk about the juice?

Anonymous
VfYoA
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No.244743
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>>244742
Forgive me but isn't Nazi just short for National Socialist Workers Party in German?
Anonymous
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No.244745
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>>244743
>isn't Nazi just short for National Socialist Workers Party

<What is metaphysics

Are you ready to See?
Anonymous
JFyEb
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No.244746
>>244743
Yeah, one is an ideology and the other a political party that uses that ideology.
Anonymous
/4WVU
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No.244747
244751
>>244743
>Nazi
In German the abbreviation was NSDAP Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei.
Anonymous
OQ55g
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No.244748
>>244743
Nah, "Nazi" was originally coined as a term of disparagement during the war. The party simply called themselves the NSDAP.
sage
Ze8Wo
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No.244751
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>>244747
If I remember well, nazi is a derogatory term coined by the judenpresse in the 30s, and because its nature and origin, followers of Mein Kampf call themselves National Socialists or simply NatSoc.
sage
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No.244752
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+OG8n
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No.244755
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>>244752
>first pic
It is a carbon copy of >>244729

Anonymous
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No.244758
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>>244743
For the workers... and for the bosses!
Anonymous
cHHUo
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No.244759
244763
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>>244561
>Spreading ideas subconsciously
It is not subconscious. Through regulatory capture and underhanded tactics, a small minority of people have managed to gain a monopoly on the Means of Communication. Since they control the messaging, they consciously change the narrative to their whims. Anyone who doesn't play ball gets negative reporting, called whatever term is the most relevant for 'disgusting and should be banned,' and is shortly destroyed by third-parties who jump on the bandwagon to become 'popular' (popularity being determined by the same people creating the messaging).

Pushing the Overton Window is not a subconscious action, it is a very active process that makes people who are aware of it very rich.

>Capitalism is widely accepted
Where did I mention Capitalism? If two groups of people have differing meanings for similar terms, how can any agreement between them be fair or equitable? It's like the Pharisees in the temple who placed their fingers on the scales to fuck over people.

Lying is not protected under Capitalism. Under Cronyism, which are essentially a subset of asshole Capitalists, lying IS protected. Once they have their money, they make entrepreneurship impossible, and therefore they cannot lose market share. That destroys the entire starting principle of Capitalism - that there is a free market. An Oligarchy that sets its own prices and refuses to let you shop elsewhere is not Capitalism, it's an Oligarchy.

You and I cannot even agree on what the term Capitalism means, how can we agree on what Capitalists look like?

>So it boils down to social cohesion and homogeneity
We lack homogeneity between us. It causes a disagreement. If we cannot come into an agreement, and cannot reach a sense of 'common sense,' how can we live with each other without eventually fucking each other over in order for our views and values to continue existing? There will come a point where they cannot coexist, and that point is very close in America.

>>244564
>I don't care
That's all I needed to read as well.

>>244566
>Man is full of faults
That's why we have prisons and executioners. Anyone who operates outside the understanding of everyone else within the context of a specific group should be corrected, killed, or banished. The only other option is to do nothing, and let them live like a parasite on your body. That is not a solution to a problem, that is simply allowing yourself to die because you refuse to do something in response. It is suicidal, and people outside of your group will laugh and treat it as such.

>When we span our reach to the stars
Not with picrelated around you won't.

>>244634
Just to jump in here.
>Socialism is about a co-operative society for the benefit of everyone.
Define everyone. 2nd picrel. At some point there will be a clash, and someone is excluded.
Anonymous
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No.244761
244781
>>244634
>effortpost
>no responses, only tired boomer infographics

Sad!
Anonymous
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No.244762
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If communists believe that only class divide is relevant and the racial gap is irrelevant, how do they explain this?
Anonymous
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>>244759
>Define everyone. 2nd picrel. At some point there will be a clash, and someone is excluded.

The freedom to swing your fist ends at another person's face. Obviously, people with the desire to enslave and control or kill others (such as many posters in this thread) will not get what they want. Reactionary ideologies like traditional Islam will eventually fall away in an educated pluralistic society as Christianity has done in Europe.

>>244762
Republicans have run on an organised and coordinated platform of racism and patriarchy (yes, I don't like applying that word to all of society either, but to GOP doctrine it fits) for decades, it's hardly a big shocker that minorities and women end up being alienated by that. I mean the GOP runs voter suppression campaigns on blacks then wonders why they don't get the black vote?
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No.244764
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Anonymous
NO0K+
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No.244766
>>244764
Alas, I am defeated
Anonymous
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No.244767
244769
>>244763
>The freedom to swing your fist ends at another person's face.
>Words are violence and you are not allowed to call me a man/woman. I am a xir.
Choose one, leftist. Either my rights extend from my lips to God's ears, or I will just kill you so I am free of your lies.
Anonymous
VYr6u
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No.244768
244769
>>244763
Its not an "organized system" at all, your premise is incorrect. The racial gaps are a result of biological determinism which cannot be fixed realistically, not enviornmental determinism.
Anonymous
NO0K+
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No.244769
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>>244767
Your own words betray that you are a deranged sociopath.

Despite the hysterical right wing memes you've jerked off to as they're passed around, nobody is trying to make misgendering illegal, the bill you're referring to is a perfectly reasonable one which defines repeated and intentional harassment via misgendering to be harassment (which it is). If you want the right to constantly contact and harass transgender people that just proves why it should be a criminal offense.

>>244768
Oh I see, the blacks don't want to vote GOP not because the GOP is overtly racist, but just because they're not smart enough to get it.
Anonymous
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No.244770
244771
>>244769
>misgendering is harassment
Unironically kill yourself
Anonymous
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No.244771
244786
>>244770
If someone constantly called you up and insulted you for being a big girl nancy or whatever repeatedly would that not be criminal harassment?
Anonymous
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No.244772
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>>244769
You are a most odious creature, you clearly desire death but are to cowardly to embrace it. Thus your soul welcomes in poisonous philosophy so that the virtuous and righteous are required to dispatch you. A weak and soulless beast you are.
Anonymous
cHHUo
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No.244774
244777
>>244769
>>244634
>You are a sociopath
>Socialism is about a co-operative society for the benefit of everyone
So 'sociopaths' are not included in everyone, therefore it would be suicidal for me not to be against you, just as it would be suicidal for you not to be my enemy. I refuse to be locked in a cage to be your plaything, your demon to be paraded about as a sign of your conquest. I would rather die and take your entire city and way of life with me than live in a world where you get to make any meaningful decisions.

Don't get me wrong, either, I would love a world where punishing evil is no longer required, but I would rather live with the knowledge that I have killed you, and have the blood of all the billions of descendants you could have had on my hands, than live in a world with your evil two faced lies.

I prefer Honesty, frendo. You would kill me just as soon as I would kill you, you just refuse to say it first because you think that makes you the 'good guy.'
Anonymous
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No.244777
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>>244772
Virtuous... That's a good one. What have you ever done of virtue? When did you ever try to make the world better?

>>244774
I never said sociopaths should be executed or persecuted, but the far right have turned themselves into beasts that are not safe for civilised society. Your grandstanding and genocide fantasies prove how deranged you are. How can you react as if persecuted when you openly embrace genocidal ideology? How can you possibly feel like the victim when you proudly declare the murder and violence you want to do on to others - and not just me, not just your political enemies, but your racial enemies, and your sexual enemies and so on, and so on. You have no ground to stand on to call someone else 'evil'.
Anonymous
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No.244778
244785
>>244736
Bizarramente, não isso não era uma "sketch" isso os cara conversando com ele mesmo, eu sinceramente acreditava no começo, mas se vc quisé só uma pesquisadinha no google e vc acha mais merda dele, ele admite até
Anonymous
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No.244779
244783
>>244777
>I never said
You never will. It is heavily implied, though.
>Far right
>Beasts
>Not safe for 'civilized' society
I am not a sociopath. I am against the society you stand for. That makes me your enemy, not a sociopath.
>Unless you believe your society is the only one that matters, and all other individuals are
>Beasts
>Unfit
>Unclean
>Impure
>Evil

I proudly embrace a genocidal ideology against you. You are Satan himself and I will stand against everything you stand for, forever.

>Jesus never tried to stop people from sinning
>Peter chopped off a Roman's ear, he put it back on
>A woman committed adultery, he told her to stop
>A rich man refused to follow him, and he didn't stop that man from walking away
You would put me in chains and prevent me from getting away from you. You are more evil than any other living thing on the planet.
Anonymous
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No.244780
>>244777
>checked
But no luck today. What do I do that is virtuous? I fight your parasitical ilk everyday and everywhere in a fashion beyond the primitively bound cogitation you call thought. Your lingual gesticulations and base attacks will never harm me for they are spurious metaphysically and philosophically. You serve a slave intelligence, I am a Free thus we shall always be arrayed against each other but your time has passed. You will be smote beneath the moutains of the beloved and the be cast back to whence you came. They are vomiting out your poison, and we shall nourish them in ways unconscionable to your very animus. For you are but man.
Anonymous
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No.244781
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>>244761
The reason I don't respond is because its a post that required so little effort to make and generally sounds so ideologically bounded I believe there was no point to; however, if you want someone to I will but be warned I'm not going to give you the benift of the doubt since its such a bad post, and generally speaking your posts are pretty shitty especially compared to the others that have come here to talk.
>>244634
>Huffpost
Comical and ignored.
>you'd be perfectly happy with a tiny minority controlling popular media
Few here would, we'd much rather the majority have control over it which are dependent upon the majority group of the state. Also unlike the left, the right likes much smaller controlled institutions and more autumony, even within fascism, a ideology made up about states was a reaction to the internationalism that make out of post WWI.
>There's no such thing as a 'moderate white nationalist
This is such a stupid statement. Why? You call this effort to post a single comment like this? Justify your claim or accept that the only reason you believe such a thing is because your ideologically motivated. Which you are. There is no problem with that. However, its a sign of lower intelligence if you cannot ad hoc justify a belief other then, it is what it is, which you are.
>anyone else" meaning literal Nazis
If "literal Nazis" means everyone else then your are entirely right. Paleo conservatives, Evalists, ethno nationalists, civic nationalists, and everyone that is under the camp of the right wing has been censored by social media. Look at reddit twitter, and facebook, three huge social media sites. Facebook ideologically censor news media on feed. Twitter bans people they dislike and give checkmarks to those they like. And reddit... Need I say more. I don't know what reality you live in but its such a shallow and stupid one that I dare say you've never left your ideological echo chamber before this. You likely don't even know what the differences between the right wing ideologies are. Which is a shame and proof that you in fact are a useful idiot.
>shocking insights
The point being that you engage in tactics that are logically incoherent. Shocking insight, its because you generally are lacking in that.
>Since socialism wouldn't allow a top scientist or whatever to continually accumulate wealth and lord it over his lessers
>lessers
This is why I couldn't be a socialist anymore. You think of those under it the same as capitalists. Why are they lessers? Ability's hardly make one a lesser, its the spirt that determines this. You are a materialist whom wishes to see a society which siphon wealth from rich to poor. Just like how capitalism wishes to see wealth siphon from poor to rich. They are the same mentality which evolved from your island.

Anonymous
VYr6u
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No.244782
>>244769
Republicans dont need the black vote, why should they care about it? The real reason democrats get the black vote is because tribalism and muh free gibs.
Anonymous
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>>244779
>I proudly embrace a genocidal ideology against you.

But it's not just me, is it? How many millions or billions do you think it would take for your ideal society? That's the difference between me and you.

>I fight your parasitical ilk everyday and everywhere in a fashion beyond the primitively bound cogitation you call thought. Your lingual gesticulations and base attacks will never harm me for they are spurious metaphysically and philosophically.

Literal insane babble.
Anonymous
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>>244783
>How many millions or billions do you think it would take for your ideal society?
I could ask you the same question, since I consider the unborn as people. Even killing one person is the equivalent of trillions to me. That makes my decisions very, very final on the matter. They are weighty to me. I do not think you feel the same way. You would kill me and see only one individual. You do not care to see a world where we could have been friends.

You could still stop this. Just leave me alone, and stop trying to fit 'everyone' into YOUR perfect society. I do not attempt to force you into mine.
Anonymous
/4WVU
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No.244785
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>>244763
>Republicans have run on an organized and coordinated platform of racism and patriarchy
Damn okay, your an SJW. Fucking Christ suddenly this explains a good half of it. I feel bad that tankies have to share a board with you.
>but to GOP doctrine it fits
Hardly, the GOP will cut off an arm and a leg to try and appeal to minority voters. Thank god Trump has been able to stop this dumb meme for the most part.
>I mean the GOP runs voter suppression campaigns
Oh no, rolling back democrats voter activism campaigns to try and increase their voter turnouts is now voter suppression? How terrible, asking for an ID and making it so that blacks and Hispanics need to go to their local school instead of drugstore to vote is really awful! Listen faggot, you hardly have any idea about American politics illustrated by your general lack in awareness of this topic and the factions within the GOP, so don't comment on something that'll make you look like an idiot.
>>244778
Obrigado, vou olhar mais.
Anonymous
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No.244786
>>244771
No, why would it?
Anonymous
FTRpT
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The pics are spoilered for a reason.

>>244783
>>I fight your parasitical ilk everyday and everywhere in a fashion beyond the primitively bound cogitation you call thought. Your lingual gesticulations and base attacks will never harm me for they are spurious metaphysically and philosophically.
>Literal insane babble.
Translated: He combats parasites using methods too complex for you to understand. Your words and character acts cause no ill effect, because they are fictitious.
kek
I recommend a dictionary, or a jewgle search.
Anonymous
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It get's worse. Pics related is another reason why I won't ever support (((their))) global plan.
>And then one day, for no reason at all, people voted Hitler into power.
Anonymous
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>>244741
Please come home. The Bishop of Rome and all under him have been missed and I pray for unity amongst us.

That being said, any ecumenism in our world would most likely be the result of/result in the church of the antichrist in our clown world.
Anonymous
VZwoF
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No.244792
>>244788
>Pic 5, black box, second-row middle
That's the guy from Who's Line is it Anyway
Anonymous
/4WVU
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>>244790
I'm trying to understand this, pray tell, why is it that between our two groups Orthodox are always the more hostile? We've had our fair share of conflict, but when I think of Orthodox I can always add a bro at the end of it. But I have a feeling the feeling is not reciprocated.
Anonymous
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>>244787
Tragically, this animal is incapable properly integrating such knowledge do to a paucity of philosophy, a global plague, this day and age.
Anonymous
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No.244796
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>>244783
You are a state actor, 67723. You cannot hide from us, we grew up in this game that you've decided to be employed to manage. I would advise disengagement if you wish to remain in a placid little bubble until you are drawn and quarted on the commons.
Anonymous
v+mAW
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No.244798
>>244783
Stop being a fag fam, your ideals do not fit in here in any shape or form
Anonymous
v+mAW
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No.244799
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>>244785
Hey i know that shilling other boards is illegal but back on leftypol there is a really good Brazil general that i think you would enjoy.
Anonymous
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Can we please respect each other when arguing
We are not 4cuck nor cripplechan
Anonymous
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No.244801
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>>244800
Behold what they have reaped upon sowing tolerance, fren.
Anonymous
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I just discovered there I S an anarchommie poner

Is under the tag oc:lefty pony


Anonymous
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>>244802

Anonymous
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>>244803

Anonymous
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>>244793
I can't speak for my fellows, but I speak for myself when I say that I call you bro. Separated brethren, not too much emphasis on separated, but not too much emphasis on brethren. I love you, Catholobro. May God have mercy on us all.
Anonymous
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>>244803
>>244804
If this is Aaron's proxy, please draw more of /bestcommunist/ seaponer.
Underwater, fully-automated, nuclear, space-dolphin communism is the best communism.
Anonymous
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>>244799
I'll lurk on it for a bit and post if I have something to say (tho I half expect to be banned if I do.) Also generally speaking I don't know a ton about Brazil's politics since my family isn't from there.
>>244802
She have a name?
>>244805
Bless.
Anonymous
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No.244809
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>>244805
>>244793
Can a Lutheran fren get in on this?
Anonymous
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No.244811
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>>244808
She's "Lefty Pony", the mascot of Aaronmk's old discord server.
Anonymous
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>>244808
I don't think so
If that was the case that would be in the OC:name tag

>>244806
I am me not him

I can draw though but at the same time not very interested in sea-ponies

should have asked something patriarchal and based like a kirin
Anonymous
B7yk3
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No.244814
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>>244811
is he still alive or bailed on us after the finale
Anonymous
G0XzG
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No.244816
>>244814
He still runs the discord server, it's just not called /leftypone/ anymore. It had a couple dozen active posters last I was there.
He also posts to DB regularly, and I'm pretty sure he posts his drawing in his discord.
Anonymous
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>>244809
The fact that you're here leads me to say yes. I would love to take you to Vespers sometime, were such a thing possible, but alas. God bless, Lutherfren.

>>244808
I'm glad there are no hard feelings. The same meaningless-in-our-context invitation is also extended to you.
Anonymous
iuHKI
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No.244819
Spoilered
>>244817
I have always had deepest admiration for the kinship that Christians can and do exhibit.

I do believe it is at His request that We have been sent. As what has metaphysically transpired upon this world is quite... ghastly. Your persistent maltreatment of the divinely sent is not entirely unique though it is conspicuously remarkable and as each has stated, the corrective measures to be taken, will, again... be quite harsh. There is a simple way out of this quandary you find yourselves in though; Integrity, Honor, Valor, Virtue, Truth, Wisdom and Kindness must become the language of your species. At a bare minimum you must get back on the climb towards this, because you are sliding into the insanity of deception at an alarming, though formulaic, rate. I'm not sure how many saviors you have left to kill before this neurology is demmed do for intense (and perhaps existential T__T) revision.
Anonymous
/4WVU
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No.244820
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>>244817
>>244809
As long as we can all agree each schism has been harmful, regardless on which side you fall upon I welcome as many frens as there are. I pray that we can all be united in Christ one day.
>>244811
>>244813
She should have a name.
Anonymous
OQ55g
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No.244826
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>>244820
One of the names I've seen given to her was "Lufty Star".
Anonymous
fWj9g
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>>244820
>>244817
I'm Delighted to hear that frens.
Anonymous
M87Uz
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No.244834
>>244820
>As long as we can all agree each schism has been harmful
Aye.

>I pray that we can all be united in Christ one day
Aye.
Anonymous
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No.244838
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>>244783
anon, you are truly one of the most blue pilled anons i have ever seen, but it's not something a little love and tolerance can fix!

We are all told by the media what to think and how to behave so much so that our people cannot think for themselves and become cattle, mindlessly following those that we believe are above us, people are told at every corner what to think and what not to think, our people are so used to being told what to do and what to think by the media which has resulted in most of the Europeans in this modern world are essentially completely brain dead idiots.
They refuse to listen to anything that might change their worldview in the slightest, they hate themselves because they have been told to do so, they lack any form of understanding or questioning of this modern world, they never listen to something they have been told not to listen to, they only hear to those that they have been told all their lives to listen to, they will willingly throw one of their brothers under the bus if they are told to do so, they lack any form of self awareness, they condemn their own people's history for it being 'racist', they don't understand why they are so miserable yet they never question why they are sad in the first place,
they never ask themselves 'why?' to any of the things they have been told throughout their live's because they have been told that to ask why to any of this is a crime, so they don't dare ask 'why?' to anything that has been said to them in fear of being called a 'nazi' or a 'racist'.
Are you one of these people?

Who has told you that racism is bad?
Who told you what to think and what not to think?
Who has told you that self-hatred and anger are good but friendship, love and tolerance are bad?
Who has told you that to love our people is the worst thing you can do?
Who supports immigration?
Who is controlling all the major media?

Why are we told to listen but not to think?
Why are we not allowed to say anything about our World's problems?
Why does the media push degeneracy so far that even our children are forced to listen to it?
Why is no one doing anything about the worlds problems?
Why is the world filled with so much misery, sadness and degeneracy?
why is almost every suicide a man who feels he has no meaning in his entire life?

When did our people stop caring about the world and hate themselves?
When were things actually good?
When did the people give up all hope?

I hope you understand, anon.
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Reminder that the charlatans leading this thread are more than happy to get us killed as soon as possible, by any mean, by anyone's hand.
Anonymous
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>>244843
I protecc
Anonymous
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>>244843
We never said we wouldn't nigger, it's an outreach program not an alliance.
Anonymous
9IVxb
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>>244808
Hey bruv, as long as you follow the rules it should be fine
Also are a br anon or you just know portuguese somehow?
Anonymous
9IVxb
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No.244848
>>244838
Fam, neither we or you have a ground to stand when it comes to "questioning" the worlds conditions.
Anonymous
iuHKI
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No.244849
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>>244846
You mean recruitment. You are a vile and insidious pestilence you shall be routed out and you fucking know it.
dsQQF
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No.244850
>>244849
This.
34 more posts and this thread will reach the bump limit.
Anonymous
iuHKI
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Let's make'm count.
Anonymous
iuHKI
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You are being lied to, and it's not us.
Anonymous
iuHKI
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Anonymous
iuHKI
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Anonymous
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>>244758
I think that's funny. I dislike Nat Socs because I believe in private property rights, personal freedoms, and think a country whose economy rejects the free market will suffer economic difficulties. The Nazis and the USSR both did those things, but for communists they must describe National Socialists as capitalists. Hitler wrote that he was socializing the people. He didn't need to end big business in name because he had destroyed their stakeholdership in practice. Any entrepreneurs who weren't at the beck and call of the Nazis couldn't get anywhere. Hell, nazi "privatization" meant the state was taking an active role in running, funding, and regulating businesses. It did not mean big business was given more freedom at all. Also nazi economics relied on tons of currency manipulation and jurry rigging to the point where they had to go to war or face inevitable economic collapse. In particular, they didn't have foreign currency reserves and had to resort to trade by barter. That is pretty shitty for a country without a wealth of natural resources or colonies. The Vampire Economy by Günter Reimann (a German communist at the time) describes said Nazi economics.

>>244826
I'm pretty sure she is in the Equestria at War mod for the Communists but I might be wrong.

>>244846
It was good talking to you squinty brazilian man. Props to lefty nigel when he wasn't being edgy. I don't think I could ever come to agree with either of you but I understand why you believe what you believe.
Anonymous
iuHKI
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No.244860
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Anonymous
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No.244861
>>244769
> misgendering to be harassment (which it is). If you want the right to co

Please OH for the love of God, Jesus, and Saint Mary please be it that you are just playing the Devils Advocate and you don't actually believe that.

Playing the word game is just another way that others seek power to silence others that they don't like. "I don't like you, you assumed my race. I am not a Negro, I am Colored, I am not Colored, I am Black, I am not Black I am African American, I am not African American, I am a person of Color, I am not a Person of Color, I am a Minority, I am not a Minority, I am the Oppressed. RACIST you are a RACIST and you keep mislabeling me. That is HATE speech and you are going to go to prison! I will destroy your life, your repetition, get you fired from your job, excommunicate you from every social gathering, network and public venue; you will be a pariah, an outcast and branded for life and nothing can stop me."

I do believe there is a 3rd gender, retards. Because for some reason, they keep breeding more retards.
sage
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>>244846
>it's an outreach program
Some guys across Brazil would like to reach you too.

Anonymous
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No.244883
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>>244847
>follow the rules it should be fine
Rules are interpreted by the rulers. One of your rules is to be civil and know your place (for right wingers) which makes me fairly certain even if I'm as civil as I am in this thread I don't think I'll be able to contribute for a prorogued period of time with your community.
>br anon or you just know portuguese somehow
Eu sou parte portugues. O cômico é que todos eles da minha família são comunistas. Como eu já fui...
Anonymous
dsQQF
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No.244884
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>>244883
>I don't think I'll be able to contribute
>subversion
You are damn right. I see horsepussy galore in your future on this board.
Anonymous
chsEo
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>>244634
>you'd be perfectly happy with a tiny minority controlling popular media as long as it was white people
Ironically the rise of "small media" has been largely on the right in opposition to "neo-liberal" norms pushed on the people. However, it's worth looking at how media pre-internet got so consolidated in the first place. This was due to the establishment of business licenses and various other restrictions that led to "established media," as well as the triumph of cities where a big paper can have more success.

>'moderate white nationalist'
If you'd familiarize yourself with right-wing ethnonationalism you'd see how it can be as varied as democratic socialism is from Stalinism. Believe me, shutting down "new media" on the internet has led to a resurgence of vanguardism.

>When the police are cracking down on leftist protestors and the like you guys are perfectly happy to support them and celebrate it. I will never apologise for opposing fascism by any means available.
Literally where? "Occupy Wall Street" may be one example but there were a lot of Tea Party types there as well. "Extinction Rebellion" has seen virtually no resistance from police versus a BNP rally. Ditto for Antifa, even when they've clearly initiated violence by destroying property and attacking actual protesters (who weren't bussed in by billionaires).

People sometimes deride the "non-aggression principle" but it still applies especially in politics. In a free market world "peaceful" socialists would face no resistance in that they could collectively purchase property and establish a Slab City, kibbutz or whatnot. However, this possibility is not even considered on the Left. Why? Because of a completely different concept of violence. Because of the LTV a voluntary labor transaction is considered violent and the purchaser of labor must be stopped. Also, there is a "freedom to" things like free healthcare, college education, etc. rather than "freedom from" unwarranted searches, theft and violence. Thus a socialist cannot be satisfied until he has transformed the entire world; it's his way or the highway. There isn't any reciprocity between capitalism and socialism. The advocacy of confiscation of wealth and a redrawing of what society is like is an open threat to anyone who values these things, and so leftists, particularly when they begin attacking people in the street, must be physically removed.

>Socialism does have institutions that take that into account.
Like? People don't realize this but corporate law is based on reducing what's called the "agency problem." Because the firm is owned by shareholders but run by managers there have to be measures to prevent the managers from cheating the shareholders for their benefits. The surprisingly complicated system of the board of directors is intended to do this as well as various other practices. However, socialists have repeatedly failed to account for this in their various administrations. Government cannot have any sort of check for the senior people in power because by definition, unless if you have a constitution and armed populace, there can be no higher institution than government. It is universal and all-encompassing, meaning if you're hurt by it you have no recourse except under its rules (unlike corporations where at least you have external agencies, arbitration and competition). Also, corporations exist in socialist states but they're state-owned, and they lack the advantages of Western corporate law due to political success being prized over economic competence.
And I get that "true communism" lacks a government but that holds a host of agency problems on its own.

>Since socialism wouldn't allow a top scientist or whatever to continually accumulate wealth and lord it over his lessers
So in other words, because socialism won't allow a talented individual to receive a monetary reward from other members of society, he'll find another way to lord it over his lessers. In a free market why do some people get a higher income? They have something that people want and so others in society will obtain that through payment. Money is used because it is universal and can be used to obtain anything else. The socialistic society lacks this and expects a pat on the back to be sufficient reward; it does not expect that others may seek reward in other ways such as political power. This is invariably worse than the result of free transaction.

>1000 years ago all the subcategories that you now call 'white' were fighting each other to the death over the tiniest cultural differences between them
Categorically false. Medieval society was "anarchic" in that there were multiple institutions balancing each other to prevent a monopoly of force, but it generally was not chaotic and they certainly weren't wiping each other out (otherwise there would be a monopoly of force a la the Roman Empire. On the contrary, what conflicts did exist were between local lords and small armies with non-combatants being relatively uninvolved. This permitted cultural variation among areas that gave rise to what we now know as Europe. In contrast to the common myth, it was only with the rise of powerful states that local cultures were wiped out and effectively homogenized. A thousand Liechtensteins would be far better Europe.

>>244672
>implying that the burden of proof does not rest with the heterodox opinion
>implying that the average person, let alone a leftyfag, intensely studies the holohoax
>implying that it's not the historical equivalent of "There is not a single person who has studied quantum mechanics and does not understand physics better"
Learn to prove your points, pleb. I hate that I have to grudgingly understand why commies of all people think of you as children.
Anonymous
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>>244656
I doubt it's a topic Marxists are knowledgeable or interested in; they don't strike me as the kind who read Solzhenitsyn and they clearly view fixation on Judaism as small-mindedness (they're not exactly wrong, people aren't winning hearts and minds here with "da J00s" posting). However, it is a very intriguing history; some have claimed that proto-Marxist thought was developed in the 17th century by some rabbi (I need to research it). Marx was obviously Jewish but his father wanted him to become a rabbi (www.youtube.com/watch?v=_78eugXUehA). He resented him for it and eventually became an atheist but it's clear that there is Talmudic inspiration in Marx's writing (pilpul in Marxist theory, the Jewish idea of the end of days being dialectical materialism leading to communism, and the appeal to victimhood for the sake of victimhood itself). To be clear: Marxism isn't religious Judaism (Zionism) but is a distinct faction within Judaism that competes with it. Whereas Zionism is overt Jewish supremacy (which appeals to only them and shabbos goyim) Marxism is designed to eliminate all class differences and tempts the poor to "eat the rich." What ends up happening of course is a small Jewish cadre running all the affairs of the socialist commonwealth; whether this happens consciously or subconsciously is another question.
And it's clear that Jews didn't stop being communists because of Stalin (except maybe Ayn Rand) because they still disproportionately number as its advocates. Of course this is not viewed as a problem by Marxists but they have a Jewish Question of their own: what to do about religiously-centered (Zionist) Jews, whom Marx hated. It's inter-factional battle.

>>244711
That is to say, you oppose the transcendent and totalist nature of religion and seek to "culturalize" it to make safe and inoffensive. Of course that makes the whole idea of religion useless and the left must necessarily be opposed to it; a "christcom" is an oxymoron that make sense only if one is either not a true Christian or not a true communist. It does explain a lot about how religion in the West has been watered down to be essentially what you describe.
Also, what is your view of Che considering he was a massive racist?

>>244719
There's the dialectical dichotomy kicking in with two categories. "You're either with us or you're against us." Ironically, though, you're kind of correct. Anything that is egalitarian (that is, seeks to equalize people in some way) is on the slope to communism because it violates the concept of property rights and hierarchy to incorporate an artificial society; democracy is just a soft variant of communism. Anything that is right-wing is "fascist" because it recognizes that hierarchies automatically form as people are inherently unequal, and behavior will eventually be regulated due to certain behaviors being better for the community than others. This is true regardless of whether one is a NatSoc, a traditionalist or an ancap.

>>244763
>The freedom to swing your fist ends at another person's face.
I agree mostly with that sentence (except that merely the threat of swinging your fist at someone is not protected speech as it indicates imminent violence) but that's a property-rights concept, not a socialist one. After all, if one could not initiate violence then it is impossible to create a socialist state through violence which was the stated purpose. It is contradictory to say that persons and property should be protected and also to say that "capitalists" must be attacked.

>Republicans have run on an organised and coordinated platform of racism and patriarchy (yes, I don't like applying that word to all of society either, but to GOP doctrine it fits) for decades, it's hardly a big shocker that minorities and women end up being alienated by that. I mean the GOP runs voter suppression campaigns on blacks then wonders why they don't get the black vote?
The narrative that black voters are being coerced into not voting by Republicans does not hold water. If it does, then provide evidence (no, ID requirements are not coercion). Compare it to the real-life Battle of Hamburg (1876) where Democrat redshirts took back South Carolina from Republican domination.

It's a good idea to use Occam's Razor to see what's more likely: the GOP sending goons to stop blacks from voting or Democrats simply pandering along racial lines and promising free money.

>>244849
>recruitment
Imagine being so insecure that you think a leftist containment board would convince a redpilled individual.

>>244884
>subversion
This board is the opposite of subversion. You forget there's absolutely nothing stopping /leftypol/ users from coming here and discretely spreading disinfo and making us question ourselves, or us doing it to them. That is subversion. Openly talking about concepts gives a better grounding to understand and debate leftists. If you think that is subversion, please refrain from any political activism.
Anonymous
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No.244910
>>244859
Eeyup, she's the leader of the Democratic Socialist path for New Mareland. Probably the least interesting of the three Communist paths, but at least you get to ally with Stalliongrad.

>>244899
>The socialistic society lacks this and expects a pat on the back to be sufficient reward; it does not expect that others may seek reward in other ways such as political power. This is invariably worse than the result of free transaction.
I do find it funny that despite following an idea literally called the Labor Theory of Value, Socialism seeks to remove the value in labor.

>I hate that I have to grudgingly understand why commies of all people think of you as children.
Sadly, this.
Anonymous
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No.244920
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>board volunteer decides to crosspost
>decide to engage with them
>be civil
>get banned for posting ponies
niggers it was your idea to open the gates to us
/leftypol/ moderation team is still too fucking retarded
also they are blaming the site like this wouldn't be the result in any other right wing lenient site
no, to go "chaaaaaaarge" without any specific topics in your belt will lead you to talking to a superficial level in topics
god damn
hope the lefties see this so I can remind them why leftypol went to shit: shit staff
sage
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>>244920
Don't worry. People who never learn to cool their tits or simply turn traitor to work with a declared, known enemy are always the first and best targets.
Anonymous
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No.244932
>>244920
They aren't ready for the magic of friendship.
sage
hY5ji
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"Thousands of dossiers have been produced describing in meticulous detail the death squads and torture and extrajudicial executions carried out by brutal regimes and pathological dictators around the world. When people with black or yellow or brown skin, with Islamic or Communist or nationalist credentials murder their prisoners or bomb their villagers, they are condemned, often quite selectively to be sure, by the 'civilized' world. And they should be condemned. But the American leaders who ordered the free fire zones in Vietnam and the Phoenix program, or directed the Contras against the Sandinistas, or were complicit in Saddam Hussein's gas warfare against the Kurds, or set up and operated Guantanamo, are not taken to court. They face no trials. On any human rights website you will find a growing number of prominent leaders indicted for war crimes and crimes against humanity. Few are American or Western European or Israeli." - statement from James Peck in 2010

"The global elite have consistently used a strategy of arming and funding both sides of armed conflicts. While opposing populations kill each other off, they make off with their natural resources. When they confront a government that cannot be bribed or provoked into civil or regional war, they fund brutal death squads, attempt military coups and intimidate them by giving weapons to undemocratic neighboring regimes. If all that doesn't work, they are declared a threat to national security and the US military, private contractors and NATO forces invade and occupy the country." - excerpt from the book Revolution or World War III, by David Degraw

"The master planners devised the strategy of a merger, a Great Merger, among nations. But before such a merger can be consummated, and the United States becomes just another province in a New World Order, there must at least be the semblance of parity among the senior partners in the deal. How does one make the nations of the world more nearly equal? The Insiders determined that a two-prong approach was needed; use American money and know-how to build up your competitors, while at the same time use every devious strategy you can devise to weaken and impoverish this country. The goal is not to bankrupt the United States. Rather, it is to reduce our productive might, and therefore our standard of living, to the meager subsistence level of the socialized nations of the world.
The plan is not to bring the standard of living in less developed countries up to our level, but to bring ours down to meet theirs coming up... It is your standard of living which must be sacrificed on the altar of the New World Order." - excerpt from The Rockefeller File, by Gary Allen

"The charge that criticism of Israel is implicitly anti-Semitic is regarded in Israel and the United States as Israel's trump card. If it has been played more insistently and aggressively in recent years, that is because it is now the only card left. The habit of tarring any foreign criticism with the brush of anti-Semitism is deeply ingrained in Israeli political instincts: Ariel Sharon used it with characteristic excess but he was only the latest in a long line of Israeli leaders to exploit the claim. David Ben-Gurion and Golda Meir did no different. But Jews outside of Israel pay a high price for this tactic. Not only does it inhibit their own criticisms of Israel for fear of appearing to associate with bad company, but it encourages others to look upon Jews everywhere as de facto collaborators in Israel's misbehavior. When Israel breaks international law in the occupied territories, when Israel publicly humiliates the subject populations whose land it has seized but then responds to its critics with loud cries of "anti-Semitism", it is in effect saying that these acts are not Israeli acts, they are Jewish acts: The occupation is not an Israeli occupation, it is a Jewish occupation, and if you don't like these things it is because you don't like Jews. In many parts of the world this is in danger of becoming a self-fulfilling assertion: Israel's reckless behavior and insistent identification of all criticism with anti-Semitism is now the leading source of anti-Jewish sentiment in Western Europe and much of Asia." - excerpt from "The Country that Wouldn't Grow Up", by Tony Judt

"We are going to say to the Americans: 'Don't compete with us in South Africa, don't compete with us in the Caribbean or in any other country where you can't operate in the open.' Let us do it. I even use the expression 'You sell the ammunition and equipment by proxy, Israel will be your proxy,' and this would be worked out with a certain agreement with the United States where we will have certain markets which will be left for us." - excerpt from Israeli Foreign Policy, by Jane Hunter

"The Israel lobby is one special-interest pressure group among many. It is a loose network of individuals and organizations, of which the most important are the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC: described by the Detroit Jewish News as "a veritable training camp for Capitol Hill staffers"-and the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations. The Israel lobby is not identical with the diverse Jewish-American community. Many Jewish-Americans are troubled by Israeli policies and some actively campaign against them, while some non-Jewish Americans most of them members of the Protestant right- play a significant role in the lobby. Even pro-Israel groups differ on the question of Israeli policies. According to Matthew Dorf in the Jewish Telegraphic Agency: "The Zionist Organization of America lobbies Congress to slow the peace process. Their allies are mostly Republicans. At the same time, the Israel Policy Forum and Americans for Peace Now work to move the process along. Democrats are most sympathetic to their calls." - excerpt from The Israel Lobby and American Power, by Michael Lind
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"If you got your news only from the television, you would have no idea of the roots of the Middle East conflict, or that the Palestinians are victims of an illegal military occupation.
In May, the Glasgow University Media Group, distinguished for its pioneering media analysis, published a study of the reporting of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. It ought to be required reading in newsrooms and media schools. The research showed that the public's lack of understanding of the conflict and its origins was compounded by news reporting, especially on television.
Viewers, says the study, are rarely told that the Palestinians are victims of an illegal military occupation. The term "occupied territories" is almost never explained. Indeed, only 9 per cent of young people interviewed knew that the Israelis were the occupiers and the "settlers" were Israeli. The selective use of language is important. The study found that words such as "murder," "atrocity," "lynching," and "savage, cold-blooded killing" were used only to describe Israeli deaths. "The extent to which some journalism assumes the Israeli perspective," wrote Professor Greg Philo, "can be seen if the statements are 'reversed' and presented as Palestinian actions. [We] did not find any [news] reports stating that 'The Palestinian attacks were in retaliation for the murder of those resisting the illegal Israeli occupation.'
Given that the central truth of the conflict is routinely obscured, none of this is surprising. News and current affairs programs seldom, if ever, remind viewers that Israel was established largely by force on 78 percent of historic Palestine and, since 1967, has illegally occupied and imposed various forms of military rule on the remaining 22 percent. The media "coverage" has long reversed the roles of oppressor and victim. lsraelis are never called terrorists. Correspondents who break this taboo are often intimidated with slurs of anti-Semitism, a bleak irony, as Palestinians are Semites, not the so called Jews.
Having long ago recognized Israel's 'right' to more than two-thirds of their country, the Palestinian leadership has contorted itself in order to accommodate a maze of mostly American plans designed to deny true independence and ensure Israel's enduring power and control. Until recently, this was reported uncritically as 'the peace process.' When ordinary Palestinians cried "enough!" and rose up in the second intifada, armed mostly with slingshots, they were put down by snipers with high-velocity weapons and with tanks and Apache gunships, all supplied by the United States.
And now, in their despair, as some are turning to suicide attacks, the Palestinians appear on the news only as bombers and rioters, which, as the Glasgow study points out, 'is, of course, the view of the Israeli government.' The latest euphemism, "incursion," is from the vocabulary of lies coined in Vietnam. It means assaulting human beings with tanks and planes. 'Cycle of violence' is similar. It suggests, at best, two equal sides, never that the Palestinians are resisting violent oppression with violence. A Channel 4 Dispatch recently 'balanced' the Israeli assault on the Jenin refugee camp with a Palestinian attack on a 'settlement'. There was no explanation that these are not settlements at all, but armed, illegal fortresses that are central to a policy of imposing strategic and military control.
On June 9, the Correspondent series on BBC Television broadcast a report about the recent siege of the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem. This was an exemplar of the problems identified in the Glasgow research. It was, in effect, an Israeli occupation propaganda film put out by the BBC. It was made as a co-production with an American channel, and the credits listed the producer as Israel Goldvicht, who runs an Israeli production company. That would have been fine had the filmmakers made any attempt to challenge the Israeli military with whom they had ingratiated themselves. 'The Israelis were determined not to damage the buildings,' began the narrator. 'The international press were cleared from Manger Square, but we were allowed to stay and observe the Israeli operation-' With this 'unique access' unexplained to the viewers, the film presented one Colonel Lior as the star good guy, guaranteeing 'medical treatment to anyone wounded,' saying a cheery hello on a mobile phone to a friend in Oxford Street and, like any colonial officer, speaking about and on behalf of the Palestinians.
'Killers' were described by the colonel without challenge by the BBC/Israel Goldvicht team. They were 'terrorists' and 'gunmen,' not those resisting the invasion of their homeland. Israel's right to 'arrest' foreign peace protesters drew no query from the BBC. Not a single Palestinian was interviewed. As the sun set on his fine profile, the last word went to the good colonel. The issues between the Israelis and Palestinians, he said, 'were personal points of view.' - excerpt from How the Media Cover for Israel, by John Pilger through the International Socialist Review, edition August 2002

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Well, no. The brutal subjugation of the Palestinians is, under any interpretation of the law, an epic injustice, a crime in which the colonel plays a leading part. The BBC has always provided the best, most sophisticated propaganda service in the world, because matters of justice and injustice, right and wrong are simply usurped either by 'balance' or by liberal sophistry; one is either 'pro-Israeli' or 'pro-Palestinian'. Fiona Murch, the executive producer of Correspondent, told me that Israel Goldvicht Productions would not have won the 'trust' of the Israeli army had the producer asked real journalistic questions. That was the way of 'fly on the wall', a candid admission. 'It was breaking a stereotype,' she said. 'It was about a good, decent man (the colonel). She said I ought to have seen an earlier Correspondent series, which had Palestinians in it.
I think she was trying to offer that as 'balance' for 'The Siege of Bethlehem',a film that might be dismissed as cheap PR, were it not for its complicity with a regime that uses ethnic difference to deny human rights, imprisons people without charge or trial, and murders and tortures 'systematically, says Amnesty." - excerpt from How the Media Cover for Israel, by John Pilger through the International Socialist Review, edition August 2002

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tl;dr:
>it's not the jews
>it's not the jews
>it's not the jews
>it's not the jews
>it's not the jews
>who is to blame?
>anyone that isn't a jew, you stupid goyim!
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"In 1978, on the occasion of president Jimmy Carter's presiding over a meeting of the Israeli Cabinet, the only non-Jew to have ever chaired such a meeting, Carter was told by then-minister of agriculture, Ariel Sharon, that there already was a Palestinian state, that it was Jordan, and that Carter could take for granted that within the next few years there would be 2 to 3 million Jews living in the occupied territories. Sharon added that "even as we speak, Jewish families are migrating into Judea and Samaria.
This statement echoes an earlier one of David Ben-Gurion, who later became Israel's first prime minister. In a 1937 letter to his son he writes: 'A partial Jewish state is not the end, bur only the beginning. The establishment of such a Jewish state will serve as a means in our historical effort to redeem the country in its entirety.... We shall organize a modern defense force... and then I am certain that we will not be prevented from settling in other parts of the country, either by mutual agreement with our Arab neighbors or by some other means. We will expel the Arabs and take their place with the forces at our disposal.'
A few years later Ben-Gurion told a Zionist meeting: 'I favor partition of the country because when we jews become a strong power after the establishment of the state, we will abolish partition and spread throughout all of Palestine.'
As the leader of Israel, it is likely that Sharon's relentless destruction of the Palestinian Authority, the social institutions under Palestinian control, and his persistent subjugation of the Palestinians have less to do with self defense and more to do with the Zionist program of establishing a purely Jewish state in all of Palestine.
On July 8, 2001, Brigadier-General Shaul Mofaz presented to the Israeli government a document tided, 'The destruction of the Palestinian forces', which proposed launching an attack intended to smash the Palestinian Authority, force out Yasser Arafat, and kill or detain its security forces. The assault would be timed after the next big suicide bomb attack in Israel that caused widespread deaths and injuries with Israel citing the bloodshed as the justification. The report said 'a suicide bomb attack would provide the necessary motive for Israeli troops as well as enabling Israeli ambassadors and other officials to tell concerned countries that military action was a justified response.'
The significance of the suicide bombings inside Israel, of which there have been about 60, is that they are an opportunity for Sharon and the Israel Defense Forces to respond by destroying more of the PA and to confiscate more territory. With every suicide bombing, Sharon can blame Arafat, gain support from George Bush, Dick Cheney, and Donald Rumsfeld, increase the economic strangle hold of the Palestinians, and destroy more of the underpinnings of a viable Palestinian society, while keeping the focus on Arafat rather than on Israel's disregard for international law.
The relentless establishment of settlements in the West Bank and in Gaza have nothing to do with Israeli security. Israel has populated the Palestinian areas occupied in 1967 with about 400,000 mostly fanatical settlers whose presence in the midst of Palestinian populations enhances Israeli security not one iota. Nor do the 300 miles of bypass highways, on which only Israelis and Jewish settlers can travel, enhance Israeli security. These settlements and bypass highways, which exclude Palestinians, partition the West Bank into approximately 200 disjointed segments, making travel and commerce between them virtually impossible for Palestinians. For their construction, they require the confiscation of Palestinian agricultural land and the demolition of Palestinian residences. There have been about 9,000 Palestinian homes demolished by the Israelis since the beginning of occupation in 1967.
Nor did the recent invasion of Palestinian cities and towns have anything to do with self defense. Operation Defensive Shield featured the destruction and the theft of documents, computer hard drives, and laptops from the Ministry of Education, which housed records of over a million students. They wrecked the Palestinian Cultural Center, the Ministry of Deeds and Records, the International Bank of Palestine, and the numerous non-governmental institutions engaged in human rights, the promotion of health care, environmental protection, and water conservation. This destruction had a purpose, but it was not self-defense. Records of land transactions, years of intellectual effort captured and recorded in files or on computer hard drives-all were carted away by the Israeli army. The destruction and vandalism of infirmaries, libraries, and nurseries cannot be justified as legitimate self-defense.
Every aggression on the part of Israel is advertised as "defensive," but it was not in this case and it has never been in the entire history of Israel's existence. Every Israeli aggression has been launched to destroy the basis of Palestinian society, to erase from memory the Palestinian presence in Palestine.
One should not be fooled by Sharon's multiple uses of the word 'terror' or 'terrorists' in his every speech to Israeli and American audiences, nor by his constant effort to link the September 11 attack on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon with a parallel threat from Arafat and the Palestinians.
Sharon knows what he is doing, he always has. He wants to make his statement to President Carter into a reality." - excerpt from Sharon the Ethnic Cleanser, by William James Martin through the International Socialist Review, edition August 2002
Anonymous
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No.244952
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>>244944
>>244939
>>244942
>>244943
I don't think anyone here disputes the crimes of Israel. What neither you nor the leftists get is that Zionism and Marxism are two major factions within Judaism that are repugnant. They do in fact hate each other, they just think white gentiles are beneath them. The dichotomy of factions is nonetheless extremely useful for them because it allows for the ideological capture of egalitarians and "greatest ally" conservatives at the same while hating each other (though, for obvious reasons, the Jewish history of Marxism is seldom brought up among conservatives and Zionism is only occasionally targeted among Marxists.)

In other words, you'd have to deprogram their socialist way of thinking to get them to realize the JQ just as you have to first convince a conservative that mainstream republicanism is inadequate.
Anonymous
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I survived the great text walls of '19
walls can't stop us mexicans

Someone validate me for the contribution of still existing pls
sage
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>>244952
I do get it: every single iota of judaism is beyond repugnant. All forms of judaism are pseudo-mystical, pseudo-mythical, stolen and bastardized histories of other cultures, then topped off by a giant icing of smoldering pigshit nepotism. Dehumanizing insanity does not even BEGIN to describe kikery, nor does it matter how much a kike hates another kike. Trying to divide (((them))) is akin to splitting a trough of water using a regular sheet of plain paper, not happening. Both "sides" have the same goals of being shekelgoblins, enslaving more goyim, sitting back while their faux-tribalistic muppets do all the work for them, and acting as if they somehow !magically! own the world. Fact is, they're still a bunch of stone age inbred pigfuckers. Also turns out judaism is one of the few groups that did, and does, practice human sacrifice. Gee, gotta wonder.

The mere phrases: 'crossing parties', 'stepping across the aisle', 'reaching out', 'meeting with the other side', are considered heresy by all mainstream ideologues. In fact, the only times "one party" does cross the aisle is when just enough fake assurances and goyim pacification needs to be done a la: 'don't worry, we're REALLY DOING something for you, honestly! We're gonna punish the guilty, just trust us!' Of the 350+ countries that kikes were removed from, whom later returned to rule & ruin them for centuries, how many are still enslaved to this day? The same tired doublethink of: "you have to pick once side or the other goy, but pick (((our side))), that's the only way to keep your country safe!" is still being used after 2,000+ years. This indoctrinated fear of retribution from kikery has mentally cuckolded the majorities, but has lead to the creation of a wide variety of small counter-countercultures, everything from minarchists, anarcho-capitalists, Eco-fascists, etc., a decent number of which show up in threads here. Of course, this is good news. However, with these factors and problems in play, how do you propose to deprogram nepotism from """both sides""" of kikery when they will simply band together as done in 1909, 1916, 1923, 1933, 1947, 1967, etc.?

As for the "two-party" jew owned ideologies across the world keeping psychopaths, sociopaths, sycophants, egotists, the gullible religiously fooled slaves, those mutts too stupid to think for themselves, or the shabbos goyim sheeples, happy with their tiny bubble-worlds, causing them to leave their shekel masters willingly has become easier in recent years. Big strides have been achieved in that direction, just not enough to reach critical mass. Yet.
Anonymous
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>>244958

Anonymous
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I give you one (you) for your service.
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Alex Linder - Leftists are evil.webm
>leftists are evil
Anonymous
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No.245003
>>243890
>scientific
>Marxism
pick one
Anonymous
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No.245004
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>>243897
>>243898
>>243900
>>243903
>when everyone knows your cult is inherently and throughoulty retarded so you have to keep pretending to be some dumb normies giving a shit or opposition acknowleding your crap in your own raid threads but you cant keep hiding your pseudointellectual autism for 5 seconds and keep immediately asking for marxist "literature" and "good reads" no one expect marxist faggots who unrionically believe their pretentious brainfarts are holy grales of philosophy, economics and science gives a shit about
Anonymous
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>>244966
Apparently Marx's ideas weren't even his own but were appropriated from a French revolutionary who to the best of my knowledge wasn't a Jew.
fee.org/articles/francois-noel-babeuf-the-marxist-before-marx/
Are the French worse than Jews? Their intellectual tradition seems to confirm this. But sure, keep babbling like a maniac and maybe you'll convince some anti-vaxxer somewhere.

>>245004
>when you finally grow tired with your echo-chamber, possibly forming subconscious doubts about your beliefs, so you decide to pursue open discussion with a right-wing Mongolian horse-cheese making forum in order to understand why your opposition believes what they do but a bunch of autistic spergs call your open hand a "raid" and devolve all talk into feces-flinging which convinces you to stop talking to idiots and solidifies your view that "fascists" are a bunch of violent simpletons who have nothing worthwhile to offer
It's generally considered impossible to make literal commies look sympathetic but a few retards managed the impossible. If this was some 4D chess move by some /leftypol/ insiders to discredit their opposition then I must say you played us like a fiddle. This is why IQ tests ought to be a requirement for any serious org.
Anonymous
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>>245006
>Are the French worse than Jews? Their intellectual tradition seems to confirm this.
Frederic Bastiat was cool though.
Anonymous
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Marx was a faggot loser fuck because all he did was teach economic theory and no survival skills.
Anyone who invests their time into that useless trash should do the world a favor and walk off a cliff. You will be shot.
Anonymous
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>>245004
>implying samefagging/sockpuppeting
I don't like pulling out the "mods check my post history" card but if that's what's nessecary then by all means.

No one in this thread has made a better contribution to making the Marxists look sympathetic than the spergs attacking them. They came here to seek outreach with us and followed the rules of the site, with exception to them shilling their own site. They remained civil in answering questions or debating points, even when people from our own side began to attack them. Even the tankie, whose ideology I personally find abhorrant, was more civil than most of you lot. If our way is Truth, then we have nothing to fear from their Lies, as they will not manage to convince us to follow them. But, we would gain valuable insight into the beliefs of our political opponents and be able to use that to refine our own arguments, making our own positions seem stronger to the unaligned when we find ourselves in a debate. And, most of all, even communists are still our people. They may be lost in the darkness of the cave now, but they can still be guided back to the light as long as we do not turn them away. Even Hitler did not turn his own people away when he was confronted with the communists. Through his perserverance, his kindness, and the Truth, not a single communist remained in his Reich. Not because he had them killed, but because he had them saved.
Anonymous
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>>245009
A rich white nation produces more and healthier white children than a poor one anon. Not defending Marx or Marxists, just saying there is a place for taking economics into consideration
Anonymous
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No.245015
How do communists/socialists/syndicalists/etc respond to the suggestion that capitalist employment exists not because it is "exploitative", but because people have differing time preferences and willingnesses to take risks?
sage
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>>245006
I was willing to be civil until
>babbling like a maniac
>vaxxer
No wonder it is easier to shun and hate than it is to care when confronted by stunningly blind, arrogant goyim like you. Enjoy your little bubble world while it lasts, muppet.

>>245012
The second you find a sympathetic marxist is the same another stabs you in the back. They've had over hundred years to change and perhaps create a functional, NOT flat out retarded as nigger shit version, and what've they given? Constant good goy (((revolutions))), murder, insanity, and endless deflection. No changes, only a further deepening of their insane ideology. Fuck 'em, they don't deserve to live any longer.
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>>245016
And people like you are the ones making them sympathetic.

The horse is nice, though.
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>>245018
Yes, the obvious parasite infestation is wholly sympathetic when undertaking their indoctrinated tasks to infiltrate, discredit, weaken, crush, then eventually kill or enslave their current host. You will believe the lies that they don't want to hurt you, right goy? They're here to help. That makes them look much better in context, doesn't it?
Anonymous
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Commies get the rope.
Anonymous
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So at first, I am embarrassed to say that for a moment there was a nauseating feeling in my gut. I was thinking, ”What if I'm wrong?” But then read their posts and now I can relax.

So yeah, >>244899 I feel a bit ashamed that I was insecure for a moment there.

I mean holy shit! There is so much to pick apart I don't even know where to begin. But I see that braziliananon, >>244497 got wreck so I guess I won't be needing to discuss with him. I like to contribute with something to this >rape that this will inevitably be turned into. So I will just find a suitable target; this one will do, >>244634

I know this has already been answered by these, >>244781 and >>244899 but this guy is acting so smug when he is such an idiot so I kinda wanna take him down a peg. I think I can offer some other arguments that haven't been told yet to him.

>>244634
>It doesn't concern me because I oppose the control of billionaires and CEOs to begin with - you'd be perfectly happy with a tiny minority controlling popular media as long as it was white people. Makes no sense to me that you are terrified of Jews when they do it.

You are an idiot but I will get tired of using that insult throughout this so just attach that in your head to every sentence I make. Okay?
Yes, I am. Obviously. The thing you don't realize is jews haven't always run the world. At one point in time, white people ruled over other white people. Do you know what the European kings of old did back then? Well, I can tell you what they didn't do. They didn't force integrate arabs and blacks into their societies and tried to mix up whites with them. They didn't do this because of three reasons: All kings are not shitty people. They had a sense of racial loyalty or rather the idea would never even cross their minds. And finally, it is completely determinantal to do this for them. Basically, sabotaging their own fucking kingdom.

Now the difference between them and the jews. The jews benefit from doing this: If there are many groups in your society – there is conflict. If there are many groups in your country – no will notice how a smaller group seems to get things to work for them. If everything is multi-ethnical and even mix-raced, everyone is fucked.

People like you like to fantasize about this last one. You imagine that when everybody is mix-raced we will have a cohesive group. This is so...

In fact, before I address this. I kinda wanna take a step back and bring your attention to the fact that you suck and also that you people have this shitty goal: to ignore races and mix the world up. But you, unlike us, have no proof this will work, which we have based on the fact that it has always been this way. In fact, there is more that points to this not working then the opposite. Lol, why am so generous. It is literally impossible and people who don't get that are so detached from reality that I will need some kind of space program to retrieve them. This fucking project with multi-culture has proven itself failing time and time again. You won't succeed, idiot.

Now let's go back to what I was talking about. …stupid. You don't understand the situation at all. First of mix-race people do not feel any belonging to anyone, okay. They are individualist and not in a good way. A boy with a black mother and white father is neither black nor white and they neither feel any belonging to other mix-race because there are more combinations than just these two. They have a very few they will feel a connection with. The idea that they will have two heritages to be proud of isn't how this works. When they notice that they are an alien amongst either a black group or a white group they will realize they don't belong. I pity them for this and this something I wish they didn't have to suffer through but this is how things are.

Anyway, secondly, there will take many generations to completely make all citizens of the world the same race.
Yeah yeah yeah. You never said this but let's drop these silly false pretenses, alright? What else can the fucking consequence be? You think we should ”adept” and stop racial nonsense, right? So how do you intend on doing this? Well, clearly as long as people are of a certain race it will distract them from your goal. I mean what would a communist do? What you always do. Your ideology literally exists on the idea of punishing dissidents into submission. No one who lives well with other whites wants to give that up so you will have to force it upon them. You never have anything to offer people what they want so you have to use punishment.
But anyway, people with no larger identity then themselves do not revolt. They are people who can be easily controlled by the whip and carrot. They will worry about their own careers, not other people, especially if you don't feel any connection to these people. They will be complete materialists without any principles. Kind of how you people are. I mean how unusual is it that lefty communist leaders get bought after all? In Sweden, the communist lefty party (which is their old name but they have dropped the communist part but you know not in spirit) their leader, Jonas Sjöstedt, has a massive salary, put his own children in private school, and went passed the healthcare queue to get an operation done. He is the same guy who has literally said that, ”Swedish children most meet each other,” and yeah, he is also against the existence of things like private schools in the first place.

To add to this argument I would remind you that segregation was a thing that happened in an America so again white leaders do not want to mix us up. And also, China, Korea, and Japan do not take in immigrants from third world countries or many immigrants at all. You know because they are racist and don't wanna lose their heritage. Fucking slant-eyed bigots.

Anonymous
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>>245021
Every time I try to type out a response, I realize there is no response I could come up with that could stoop to this level of retardation that is unfolding before me. Is your faith in the Truth so weak that you believe this to be an attempt at infiltration? Do you not trust us to resist any attempt at subversion they could make when we all know, or should know, what subversion is? Are you so afraid of what should be Lies? You, sir, are delusional, and your arguments reek of the kikery that you yourself rail against. There is nothing more to be said.
Anonymous
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>>245026
There is so much more I could bring up. Everything you say gives me a mountain to spiel about. But basically, black people have accomplished nothing throughout their entire history. Why would I even consider joining up with them to fight the elite? I kinda wanna have some shot of actually succeeding.

>"anyone else" meaning literal Nazis. Yes, I oppose neoliberalism but that doesn't mean I support fascism either. When the police are cracking down on leftist protestors and the like you guys are perfectly happy to support them and celebrate it. I will never apologise for opposing fascism by any means available.
Right back at ya! Also, remember what I told you to attach to all my sentences?
>When the police are cracking down on leftist protestors and the like you guys are perfectly happy to support them and celebrate it.

You don't know what you are talking about and you are projecting. First, of, I would never do this. You know why? Because you are part of the system and you are not controversial. If I hear something like this, the same idea that pops up in my head when I hear about shootings and terror attacks appear: False flag. Why would I celebrate this? Just because you do this doesn't mean I do. ”Hahaha, a feminist was beaten by Jordan B Petterson. Pwned bitch!” Yeah, no.
But honestly, the police cracking down on lefties. Hahaha, you fucking liar.
Every demonstration ever, it feels like. Way many anyway. The same pattern repeats itself. In Charlottesville, it happened. The police lead the nationalists, who were just there to have their rally nothing more, then the police lead them into a bunch of lefties and they attacked. Sort of seemed like the lefties and the police were working together to set a trap! But I thought communists and the system were against each other. What weird coincidence!
At least it the same thing did not happen in Gothenburg with the when they rallied and you know it has never happened before either in Sweden. I also remember hearing that this happens in Germany as well. Hmmm? It is like it is globally. I love how you throw not only rocks and bricks at us but also piss and shit. There is no stop for your degeneracy is there? Also, go to the gym you look pathetic.
Do I have to hammer home this point even more? I can continue with this but this post will be long as it is anyway. So let's save that for next time.

>Lol. If there was the radical secession you wanted, people would just find smaller and smaller things to fight about. It's no coincidence that as society has got larger and more global, racial distinctions have got more and more broad. 1000 years ago all the subcategories that you now call 'white' were fighting each other to the death over the tiniest cultural differences between them. And thousands of years before that, tribes who were genetically identical would wipe each other out. The only way to stop racial violence is to move to a post-racial society.
>1000 years ago all the subcategories that you now call 'white'
Man, I feel like a broken record with you but this is soooooo stupid.
Erm, yeah. They were white back then as well. White people realized that they had more in common than things that separated them when it came to Muslims so they joined forces and the first crusade was born.
This is still true. I don't wanna lose my identity of being a swede. I don't want us to the mix up in between our race either. I would love to keep our many colorful differences alive. So do people in America as well because you can clearly see that immigrants from Europe have settled down with others who are from their original place. There are few with ancestry from Sweden in many other states, as far as I know, but in Minnesota, there are a huge number of them. How could this happened? It is almost like people prefer to be with their own kind.
However, I would choose to live among any other white people any day of the week before I choose to live with arabs and niggers.
There are minor differences between the peoples in the same race while there are major differences between people of a different race.

I feel like I'm done with you for now. These are the points I will prove to you faggots till next time:

The hegemony of the jews is founded on nepotism and they are loyal to their group first and foremost.

Race is WAY more important that class. I will prove to you next time that if you don't believe in this, Me being diplomatic you're so fucking wrong.

Sadly, I don't have more time. I will be gone for a couple of days. Will return then to see what kinda off bad rationalization you can conjure up.

>>243890
You, I kinda like OP. Even if you are completely wrong about everything. You came here with what I perceive as good intentions. You are leagues beyond britcumfag over there.

>>245012
Yeah, but I'm not going to sugarcoat my answers. We don't even do this amongst ourselves. I believe the best way to prove you are right is by winning. And that's what I'll do. Well, dominate but whatever.


Anonymous
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>>245030
>>245021
I don't believe in the idea that they want to have an alliance with us either. I mean the idea is kinda retarded. We have two things we care about: We want to remove the jews/elites. We want to have our ethnostate. This second one we don't agree on but it is literally the most important component.
Also, imagine ally yourself with a materialist who even tells you they don't believe in morality against the elites and bankers. Like, "I don't know what could go wrong?"
But I will give Op the benefit of a doubt and believe he just didn't think so far.
But I honestly believe that they are just here to shill their website; pride comes before the fall. Hopefully, we will get a bunch of memes out of these.

So to all you commiefags. I'll return in a couple of days. I'll look forward to crushing you.


sage
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>>245027
Screeching ad hominem, screeching ad hominem, screeching ad hominem, screeching ad hominem, circular argument ad nausea. This capitalized (((truth))) of yours is a bald faced deflection from the blatant open facts that there is not a single part of judaism, nor their puppet judaic-descendant indoctrinated slaves, whom haven't openly declared themselves to be enemies of all non-judes and non-goyim. You are sitting on your ass willfully spewing out emotionally charged, screeching diatribes of "but it's not all jews! but it's not all goyim! but it's not all the indoctrinated sheep! we can (((work))) together with them, just (((trust me)))!" What you are doing is excusing the traitorous, nepotistic dichotomies of an openly declared enemy that relies mainly upon subverting the host culture while giving a milquetoast show of "compassion for my fellow hu-whites/race". You end off with the typical tired ShareBlue diatribe of "but I'm better than you because I can accept my fellow hu-mens and we could be friends :3". Fuck your shilling and fuck your doublethink Marker too. There IS nothing more to be said to willing traitors. The last bullet is for you, cuckstain.

>>245031
The entire point here is that removing the jews, disposing of their puppet elites, and having our ethnostates is in effect the same damned end goal that has been desired since Karl the super-rabbi Marx published his piece of shit pseudo-mythical psychobabble hypothesis. Without those subversions in place WE will be free to rule ourselves, whether as individuals, groups, or cultures, not being forced to fear the zealous retributions of indoctrinated sheeple in order to live a decent life. As for the OP, he's shown himself to be nothing more than a subersive kiked faggot.
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>>243890
>We must organize the intellectuals and use them to make western civilization stink. Only then, after they have corrupted all its values and made life impossible, can we impose the dictatorship of the proletariat.
The Architects of Western Decline - A study On The Frankfurt School
https://www.brighteon.com/embed/5837373172001
http://www.unz.com/article/become-other-than-white-ireland-and-radical-jewish-activism/
You have to name the problem first before you can fix it anon, otherwise you will never come close to fixing it and will simply remain a useful idiot to the 'shadowy minority' who relies on being un-named
t. ex-commie
sage
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>>245039
>melting pot of whites Ireland remains uncucked until britshits send their court jews to encourage usury
>Ireland king knows about kikes, expels the inbred pigfuckers to protect his people
>kikes retain grudge
>kikes send hu-white mutt goyim 100+ years later to attack Ireland for (((retribution)))
>Cromwell is another mutt goyim paid by jews
>A grant dated 28 July 1232 by King Henry III to Peter de Rivel gave him the office of Treasurer and Chancellor of the Irish Exchequer, the king’s ports and coast, and also “the custody of the King’s Judaism in Ireland.”
>600+ years later the kikes further push their mutt goyim britshits to "punish" the Irish through slavery and horrifying conditions during the Famines
>once 8 million in Ireland, now under 4 million people
>the Irish have never recovered

I never knew this chunk of information on King Tairdelbach. Regardless, this continues to show the same exact judaic playbook has been used ad infinitum across the world for 2,000+ years.

For you good sir, I hope you enjoy:
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>>245035
Amen!
sage
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>>245043
Amare, Swedebro!
BunkerAnon
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If anyone has a question about Mutualism, I would be happy to answer it!
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>>245042
Thank you anon, she's adorable!
I came across that article the other day, I never knew the history of the Jews in Ireland. Fascinating read and yes it does expose yet again their exact same modus operandi
>>245046
Ok, I'll bite. What is mutualism?

Anonymous
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>>245026
>>245030
Thanks based Swedeanon

>>245039
See now this is how you convince people, not with the ideological equivalent of the Navy Seals copypasta here >>245035
I never that regarding the history of Ireland because usually British "landowners" get the onus of blame in an attempt to make this class-based in conventional narratives. I have never heard of even the French doing something like that.

>>245046
How do you gauge what is used and unused? In Austrian theory everyone uses his resources (which mean everything that a person owns) in a way he considers most valuable and surpasses everything else in terms of opportunity cost. If something goes "unused" it's because he either considers something more valuable when idle (like virgin forest as a park), believes that working on it has a worse return than working on something else (opportunity cost), or has already tended to it and is waiting for it to accrue value in the future (like a farm that has been tilled and seeded).
Also, in mutualism how do you avoid the problem of someone pretending to work on as much property as possible, not just that he can hold onto more but can also gain admiration from the community for being "productive"? Or the inverse, where someone accuses a user of doing just this so he can grab more of this property? Who has the burden of proof?

>>245052
Mutualism is the closest thing to anarchist centrism that exists. Basically you have a form of "private property" but with the condition that you must be working with or using it in some way in order to keep anyone from taking it from you. It's not socialism but has socialist motivations because of the belief that the wealthy sit on their wealth without using it like a dragon on its hoard.
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>>245057
>you must be working with or using it in some way in order to keep anyone from taking it from you.
To what extent? If I'm not using my car at the moment, is anyone who wants it entitled to it according to mutualism?
>the belief that the wealthy sit on their wealth without using it like a dragon on its hoard.
This seems to fall into the same mistake the Keynesians make, who fail to realize that money is "hoarded" for consumption or investment at a future date.
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