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How to Redpill
Anonymous
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If we're going to win, we have to redpill some of the normies. Many of us have tried and they seem like blockheads who cannot even comprehend why we think differently. Here is an explanation for that:

https://fee.org/articles/how-facts-get-chosen-and-minds-get-changed/

tl;dr
>people do not hold views logically but through moral intuitions that are basically quick reactions
>different individuals place emphasis on different moral intuitions and therefore react differently
>people run external events through their belief system and change their perspective of the event according to views
>therefore it's rare for someone to change due to evidence; he usually explains it away or twists it to reinforce his view
>facts we emphasize (like increased crime with immigration) appeal to us but bounce off liberals
>cognitive dissonance is what drives us (as in everyone) to convert others and reconcile facts with our views in our minds
>people within a culture actually share the same principles, but when principles collide they take sides and fit the facts to support it, pretending that their view is borne out by "evidence"
>providing information that has been considered before (a.k.a. rehashing the same arguments) doesn't work because the recipient has aleady "immunized" himself to the information
>you have to give the opponent a new moral intuition via reaction to information previously unseen
>the moral intuition has to shake previously-held views
>either create a new moral intuition that he accepts but contradicts his views, or that he rejects but fits into his views
>put your opponents into situations where they must make a choice and afterward indicate the logical conclusions of such choice
>get into the other side's head and examine their own values deeply, probing at ways to push their values to logically align with your ideology
>while people share the same sets of values, they place emphasis on certain values more than others which creates political differences

The article mandates a read; it's an excellent psychological look into how to win arguments. The site also has some pretty good redpills on economics if you're into that.

This thread is dedicated to sharing tactics on winning ideological opponents over. Feel free to share guides.
Anonymous
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>>184382
*ahem*
Fuck Nazis
Anonymous
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>>184383
What are you doing here, Zald?
Anonymous
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>>184383
*ahem*
FUCK NIGGERS!
Anonymous
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>>184383

this is the face of the gay goblino agitator
Methfilly
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>>184382
>tl;dr
>nearly 300 words
tl;dr for the tl;dr?
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>>184383
>Fuck Nazis
Like this?
Anonymous
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>>184459
Use arguments tailored for others' specific values.
Anonymous
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>>184461
Wtf I wanna be a nazi now.
Anonymous
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>>184384
I am afraid that we are drawing undesirable attention from /leftypol/ kikes.
The activities of some of us at 8pol are not going unnoticed.
Anonymous
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>>184382
>This thread is dedicated to sharing tactics on winning ideological opponents over.
I just read the article, it is really interesting and complex.
I have to admit, to apply its teaching requires a subtle ability to play mind games in very methodic and disciplined manner, which is almost alien to our instinctive and chaotic way to do it.
I doubt there are many poners with such skill.

Anonymous
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>>184494
It would be more appropriate to say they are like the Muslim invaders in Europe.
Anonymous
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>>184382
This seems reasonable. I've redpilled a few normally-total-brainlet wamen on abortion of all things by giving them a bullshit story about a "Gender Reveal Party" I attended, a party that ended in a super-awkward uber-cringey ultra-sad "The cake's red, for an abortion!" way that made the wamen get sad and go "wtf i hate abor... wtf I think abortion should be restricted only to those who need it now."
Anonymous
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>>184461
I may need to fap but I'm not gonna til this type of image is 1440p compatible...
Anonymous
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>>185119
sry, its been a long while since I've been back on ml/pol...
Anonymous
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>>185119
But anon, it's nofap november.
If you open it in a new tab, it should shrink to fit your monitor. Welcome back btw.
Anonymous
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The best way to redpill the normies is to be someone they look up to. Start lifting, get in shape, find a 3d waifu, and start popping out some white kids.

I'm not huge, but others call me fit. That and the shaved head makes me look pretty fierce. I can't tell you how much differently people treat me now.

Anonymous
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>>185141
Do i have to Shave my head? or can i get that Richard Spencer cut?
Anonymous
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>>185141
>shaved head
Great job falling into stereotypes. The +2 to intimidation is great but if you ever go into public activism people will treat you as the "scary skinhead." If that's not your plan anyway that's fine.

I don't want to diss your style but subverting stereotypes is powerful. Low-IQ people (generally NPCs) love stereotypes, even if they're usually true, as they fit everyone into categories and cannot imagine people existing outside these. Liberals love showing blacks, Muslims, Mexicans, etc. in positions outside stereotypes because this changes cultural perception. Republicucks do the same thing with their "based black guy" obsession. This works to some extent because most people, including some that anons look up to, have no idea how statistics work. Case in point:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daryl_Davis (yet somehow, the KKK, who damaged the image of white nationalism more than any other group in America, are /ourguys/)

Normies have to become confused about their inner beliefs before they're willing to change them. If you're well-dressed, well-spoken, and generally a nice guy, they'll be more open to white nationalist ideas than if you're a skinhead with a swastika tattoo. This is the concept behind optics.
Anonymous
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>>185143
No. It would be best if you just went for a presentable hairstyle, the Spencer style is quite popular now, but I wouldn't comb my hair over if I were you. Like the above anon says, normalfags love to stereotype. Just ask the barber for an undercut and let them style it for you. On the subject of presentable looks, clothes are just as important as hair, pic related. Try to have more blank tees than graphic ones, have a selection of smart looking shirts, and make sure your clothes fit you properly. Nothing worse than having clothes that are either too baggy or too tight.
Anonymous
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No.185152
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>>185143
Well, my shaved head predates me being on /pol/. So it wasn't a nazi shave. I was just losing my hair and didn't want to keep arguing with the barber to not give me a comb-over. (But you will say I make you look bald!) No idea what spencer looks like and I'm not searching for it.

>>185144
>Great job falling into stereotypes
I drive a german car too. Heheheeee. Mostly no one notices. Once of twice, someone says something like "aren't you afraid people are going to think you are a skinhead?" I ask them if they have ever met one. "No." "Me neither, I think they are an urban legend from the 70s."

>If that's not your plan anyway that's fine.
Nope, I have a family to support thus I can't be the public face. I have only my considerable wits and meager gimp skills to offer.

>than if you're a skinhead with a swastika tattoo.
Never had a tat, never will. They are uniformly low class.

>If you're well-dressed, well-spoken,
My clothes are cheap, but fit well. I attempt to look "rugged." No labels or logos. My speech is plain, but I am well read and can argue.

>and generally a nice guy,
Here's what people don't get. No one was ever nice to me when I had a respectable haircut and was blond. Now people open doors for me and get out of my way. I smile at them and am generally nice. There's no reason to be anything other than nice when everyone is nice to you. Sometimes I leave the house with glasses on (woops) and people act like "get out of my way, nerd". It's really shocking. With only glasses, I become clark kent, and people are rude as fuck. Before I shaved my head, no one cared if I was nice. Now they do.

I have redpilled a person or two, but really, I don't IRL. I need to be able to operate unhindered and unsuspected. I'm in the closet until CW2 kicks off.

Anonymous
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No.185155
>>185152
Admirable.
Anonymous
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>>185144
BTW, I would never say "white nationalism" ever. Or nazi, or white genocide, nor any other catch-phrases. You can highlight how things are going downhill with immigrants, how places that had virtually no crime are overrun with rape and grenade attacks (sweden). You can talk about how the left likes to "virtue signal" and then live in gated communities. But "white nationalism" is too abstract and also tainted. You can't mention it or people shut down. Hell, I have said I'd love to "kill them all when the war comes" but still, never say "white genocide".

You should always talk about how the individual is personally impacted. You can ever go civnat with the more liberal (but still centrist, true libs are lost) and talk about how blacks are the ones fucked the most by unfettered immigration, it's competition on the low end for jobs, etc. But really, the way to get them there is be just to the right of them, and be reasonable about it.

One thing I like to say is that "I used to be a mild-mannered libertarian, but if the left wants war, and they do, I'll be happy to throw my lot in with the right."

But really, if you want to change hearts and minds, look good, look fuckable. Men will respect you and women want to fuck you. And don't give me any shit about your below average face, etc. I'm ugly as sin. Doesn't matter if you are in shape, it's almost a plus if you don't let it hold you back.

So, go forth, get a 10$ membership at planet fitness. If anyone is interested in becoming /fit/ I'll be happy to lay out a basic plan, and tell you the problems and successes I have had over the past 10 years.


Anonymous
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No.185162
>>185139
I sincerely love how this board is so supportive of its members.
88
Anonymous
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>>185159
I have to agree. Using buzzwords is, for now at least, against our interests because our opponents can simply do it better with a louder voice. As Mark Twain said, "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience." Occasionally you can land a good punch with an innocuous but pithy statement like "It's OK to be white" but going public with ideological slogans only reinforces their lies that we're "conspiracy theorists" and are either insane or misled. It's good to come up with new "dogwhistles," as they call them, in the memesphere because it drives media and censors batty, but translating this into rl can only hurt us in the long run, as Chanology did.

Identity Dixie, which has plenty of articles on irl activism and how to cultivate optics, has an interesting article on this: https://identitydixie.com/2018/08/31/tucker-carlson-nationalism/
Personally, I would much rather have Jared Taylor's nationalism rather than Carlson, as he is unmatched in terms of good optics (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ly0L4QHFjhs). However, while some left-leaning news sites may interview him as an "expose" of the far-right (in Australia at least, where they're more chill), he would never be featured on Fox because he would resonate too much with their core audience. Tucker Carlson at least gets airtime and he has dropped as many redpills as his (((network))) would allow.

The truth of the matter is that redpilling is a gradual process and you have to first convince a liberal to become a centrist, then a conservative, then a civic nationalist, then finally he may become an ethno-nationalist. This should happen without him ever doubting it is a natural progression and self-maturation.
Anonymous
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>>185169
Honest question: did Chanology REALLY do nothing but hurt us in the long run? Scientology's been on the decline for years, and even members of our cabinet have offered hints that Trump wants to remove the tax exempt status from them - a goal that even pre-Chanology protesters of the church had spoken about.

I think Chanology, while definitely a pretty weak movement despite high numbers, wasn't all bad.
Anonymous
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>>184382
Step one - Don't be a Contemporary-Counter.
Step two - Realize that American children are already mostly non-white and Hispanic enclaves rule.
Step three - Realize America will never be Republican again.

Step four - Now you can finally accept that there's nobody to redpill, unless redpill is a euphemism for sucking tiny spicnigger weewees. lmao
Anonymous
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>>185730
The blackpill is the ultimate redpill.
Anonymous
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>>185731
The black pill is a blue pill.
Redpilled: X is a problem that needs to be solved.
Bluepilled: Nothing is wrong everything is fine nothing matters anyway who are you to decide what are problems? We decide what problems are. You're a problem.
Blackpilled: Everything is wrong nothing is fine nothing matters anyway waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
Anonymous
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Anonymous
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>>185811 (checked)
There isn't enough "this" for post.
Anonymous
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>>185811
>Blackpilled: Everything is wrong nothing is fine nothing matters anyway waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
Blackpilled reaction: Let us burn everything.
Anonymous
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>>185835
>Blackpilled reaction: Let us burn everything
I wish, it's usually pass the cheetos and lets play video game and watch porn. That's the usual black pill.


Anonymous
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>>185835
Blackpill is post-redpill depression/hopelessness.
>>185965
What you're describing is whitepill.
Anonymous
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>>185966
No, Avatar The Legend Of Aang is whitepilled. It contains good morality (usually) and almost-redpills that aren't explicitly right wing, but could be used to prepare a kid (or one who's basically a kid) for red pills. Clean your room, exercise, be a good friend, traditions and the past are important, spirituality is important, its OK to lie for a good cause (The Divide), etc.
Blackpilled faggots are lazy Rick and Morty watchers who think eating dewritos, fantasizing about a purge they'll never partake in, and spitefully nay-saying all right-wingers who aren't as obnoxiously anti-optics and "edgy and tough" as them (especially the ones who make the blackpilled feel inadequate by doing shit and creating content and contributing to a better world in any way, no matter how minor) makes them the best and most redpilled people of all.
That's what I've been led to believe those terms mean, at least.
Anonymous
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>>186017
You've been misinformed Nigel, here's a quick reference.
Blackpill = Anhedonia
What you're describing is a redpilled nihilist (possibly a solipsist), which is a different beast altogether.
Anonymous
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No.186143
>>184382
I like that pic
Anonymous
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>>184386
Never forget the absolute state of Zaldo
Anonymous
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>>184386
Has this been confirmed?
Anonymous
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>>186017
I consider whitepill to be a state of not giving a fuck, and having no drive to become aware of or solve the world's problems.
I took it from this meme.
Anonymous
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>>184386
>goblino
He looks like he has some African blood in him too.
Anonymous
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>>186274
Rather, he looks like he is mostly black. Not even a proper mutt.
New German Reich
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>>186274
As >>186276 said, he looks like he's over 50% black.
Anonymous
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>>186280
Goddammit, I did it again!
Anonymous
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>>186270
Yeah whitepill is Jim or most acceleration. Brownpill is the best imo.
Anonymous
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Hey anons, lets argue about definitions of <insert color> pill instead of getting out, getting /fit/ and red pilling some people.

To redpill others, you must truly redpill yourself first.

I'm going to the gym today, lets see a show of hands, who is going to the gym today.

Anonymous
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>>186700
Git gud faggot
>t. Lumber Miller
Anonymous
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>>186700
Count me in too.
>>186704
Hope you keep all your fingers lumberanon. I hear stories all the time of people accidentally getting harmed in a lumber-mill.
Anonymous
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Turns out the WIki has a page on this subject:

>Knowledge, freedom, uncertainty and the brutal truths of reality (red pill)
>Security, happiness, beauty, and the blissful ignorance of illusion (blue pill)
...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_pill_and_blue_pill
It has a fairly extensive historical look at the concept.

There is no authoritative definition for the other colors, just the success or failure of social pressure. However since the 4/pol/ diaspora there is no centralization where a collective interpretation can emerge.


WE ARE ALL DOOMED
t. Black pilled==

Anonymous
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No.187112
>>186705
I've been at it 12 years, never cut anything off.
But I've smashed the shit out of 2 fingers before
Anonymous
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No.194104
>>184382
A good read
Psychology Study
Anonymous
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I feel this should become our psychology thread given that we don't have one but need one. Unkiked psychology and criticism of such pseudo-science such as Freudianism is welcome.

I found this interesting article the other day:
https://jamesclear.com/great-speeches/psychology-of-human-misjudgment-by-charlie-munger

Munger is probably one of (((them))), especially since he's vice-chairman of Berkshire Hathaway. However, his analysis of psychology seems to be quite cogent especially as he backs up each point. His points can be useful for personal success as well as advancing the cause of the white race. You can see these causes of misjudgment among normies and SJWs everywhere.

24 Causes of Human Misjudgment
>1. Reinforcement and incentives
>2. Denial
>3. Incentive-cause bias
>4. Bias from consistency and commitment tendency
>5. Persian messenger syndrome (fear of punishment for bearing bad news)
>6. Bias from Pavlovian association
>7. Bias from reciprocation tendency
>8. Over-influence by social proof
>9. Bias from contrast-caused distortions of sensation, perception, and cognition (frog in the pot analogy)
>10. Bias from over-influence from authority
>11. Bias from deprival super reaction syndrome
>12. Bias from envy and jealousy
>13. Bias from chemical dependency
>14. Bias from gambling compulsion
>15. Bias from likes
>16. Bias from dislikes
>17. Bias from the non-mathematical nature of the human brain (crude heuristics)
>18. Lack of availability
>19. Bias from over-influence by extra-vivid evidence
>20. Confusion caused by information not arrayed properly
>21. Stress-induced mental changes
>22. Limitations of memory, sensation, cognition and knowledge
>23. Common mental illnesses and declines
>24. Confusion from the need to communicate something uncommunicable

Recognizing these causes of misjudgment is important. They are the reason companies can go belly-up out of nowhere. Smart individuals can use them to influence people for good or ill: Alcoholics Anonymous uses biases to cure addiction while the Jews trick and influence us without our realizing it. Countering them in yourself can enable rational behavior and make yourself achieve more than your intelligence level would suggest.

Looking forward for more discussion or interesting articles.
Anonymous
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No.198695
How to even start redpilling?
Lately I feel like they are just bots unwilling to even think about it.
If shit goes south they scream for the government like good little slaves. No reason to wonder what's up if everything is fine.

Anonymous
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No.198706
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Update: I have redpilled two more people since yesterday.
I think the trick is to first present yourself as a knowledgeable expert who knows a ton of shit. Bring up shit like the Magna Carter and old UK history.
Look down on the NPC a little.
Then you slowly guide the retard out of his cage.
"That source said X happened, but in truth, that was a lie. Remember when that source lied about this, this, and this? Only idiots trust this source. I used to be a liberal like you, then I took a facts and logic to the brain. Look at this emotion-laden sob story, look at this poor woman whose poor dead son was killed by a drunk driving illegal immigrant. Look at her sad face and feel bad for her. Illegal immigration laws need reform, because Catch And Release doesn't work".
Start small, present them with hard evidence that their "trustworthy sources" are full of shit, make them think a tiny bit, remind them that their evil libtard club would excommunicate them for talking to you if they start saying anything nice about it...
I think the "I used to be a liberal like you, but the progressives aren't progressives any more, they're violent racketeers" is the most important thing to say.
These drones think you crawled out of the Texan dirt one day, full of evil and hatred for minnowties. Lie and say you were a libtard until Gamergate or the liberals "Fuck the gays, they should have been more tolerant of the shooter!" reaction Pulse Gay Club Shooting or Bernie getting "blackmailed" into stepping down by Killary Klanton or something.
Remember, big numbers scare normies. Tell them how many Muslims killed last year and they feel nothing for the dead ten thousand. Tell them about the victims of a recent immigrants crime and they feel, feel, feeeeeeeeel.
Anonymous
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No.199377
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>>198706
You have catch and release in bongistan?
Anonymous
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No.199420
>>198684
>sand box
I'm sorry, I don't get this joke. Could you explain it?
Anonymous
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No.199422
>>199377
I was just bringing up an example of something unquestionably awful.
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