/mlpol/ - My Little Politics

Here’s a question that has been rolling around in my head for some time, but I have never bothered with actually asking. Not taking into account the swarms of rapefugees, Africans, etc., would not impending depopulation be a good thing looking forward? My reasoning has everything to do with automation. To put it bluntly, automation is killing low skilled jobs. Cashiers, baristas, taxi drivers, and factory workers are all losing their jobs to robots. While the free market may provide more jobs for the unemployed, that is not a guarantee. With a vast increase in the population not working, those that own and those that still work will have to provide for these people. This will create an impoverished class, that will likely be unable to pull themselves out of poverty. However, if the population declines, the supply of labor goes down, meaning that the robots are filling empty positions, not replacing anyone. At that point, the question becomes less about growing the population now, but stabilizing it after most of the automated jobs become a reality.

>>87722
All true except for one factor. Debt. Debt is where you owe back more than you borrowed. This process goes all the way up to the actual creation of a dollar itself, which is born with debt attached from the outset. To pay for this debt you need economic expansion. That means you need babies. To implement your strategy you need to end central banking, eg. The Fed, and debt.

This suggests that central banking might be a time bomb planted in countries.

>>87725
>This suggests that central banking might be a time bomb planted in countries.
I certainly believe it is. Debt, while useful, is a cancer that creates economic catastrophy. Maybe we need men like Jackson back in politics?

>>87722
>>87725
>>87730
Yes, yes, yes. Industry in particular - at least in the US - is an area of domestic production that is grossly inefficient precisely because its labor pool tends to come from the least/un-educated demographics available. Said laborers have no interest in acting responsibly to themselves or the groups they work for/among and can be observed to operate outside their means (resulting in an increased demand for social welfare) in the best case, and observably self-destructive and degenerately (in a social sense) in the worst.
These demographics are the quickest to reproduce, and the quickest to cause a degradation of the societies they inhabit. The children of such demographics can be observed to bring down both the average individual achievement level and the quality of a group's achievement level in schools and institutions, while the adults cost a disproportionate amount to communities in the form of criminality.
Automation eliminates the ability of said groups to grow/sustain themselves outside of their own merit by reducing/eliminating the need for less skilled/competent individuals. Skilled professionals are required to design, build, and operate the machines, vastly increasing efficiency AND innovation. This is why National Socialism is so effective a political strategy, and why concentration camps in Germany came about in the first place.
At the same time, the central bank(s) rightfully should be eliminated, and it is only through the lack of education and comprehension of a greater percentage of the population - which its self is rife with (not exclusively) the irresponsible and uneducated I mentioned earlier - that there is less appreciation of the negative impact of central banks in the first place.

>>87701
Is it really bad?

Yeah, there is that whole thing about dying white race, and us being replaced with niggs but it should be also noted that we can't outbreed them without turning into them. We shouldn't really sacrifice our civilization in the name of "muh white babies" meme. Instead of having babies people get good education, pursue careers and you can't really change it.
How many people is really needed? 5 billions, 15? Or maybe humanity would be better with only billion or two? Resources aren't endless and automatization will just make a lot of jobs useless. Strength of a country is no longer measuerd with manpower, you can be regional superpower with a lot lower population than neighbours.
Only reason that we need more and more people is that they need to pay pensions, but it will either break in the future due to not enough young people, or we will be able to produce so much goods, that we will be able to pay for everything with a lot less people working.

It Begins: Democratic Senator To Introduce Bill For Taxpayer-Funded Pension Bailouts

>Over the past year we have provided extensive coverage of what will likely be the biggest, and most significant financial crisis facing the aging U.S. population: a multi-trillion pension storm, which was recently dubbed "one of the most heated battles of a lifetime" by Mauldin. The reason, in a nutshell, why the US public pension problem has stumped so many professionals is simple: for lack of a better word, it is irreconcilable in that to satisfy accrued pension and retirement obligations, it requires fixed income returns, typically in the 6%+ range, which are virtually unfeasible in a world where global debt/GDP is in the 300%+ range. Which is why we, and many others, have long speculated that it is only a matter of time before the matter receives political attention, and ultimately, a taxpayer bailout.

>That moment may be imminent. According to Pensions and Investments magazine, Democratic Senator Sherrod Brown from Ohio plans to introduce legislation that would allow struggling multiemployer pension funds to borrow from the U.S. Treasury to remain solvent.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-08/it-begins-democratic-senator-introduce-bill-taxpayer-funded-pension-bailouts

Because there is no such thing as too much debt!

>>88082
>multiemployer pension funds to borrow from the U.S. Treasury to remain solvent.

The USA and its states are financially dead. They're so dead, you couldn't light them on fire as there's nothing left to burn. In example, you have Illinois with $250,000,000,000 in pension debt.

https://www.illinoispolicy.org/moodys-downgrades-illinois-to-1-notch-above-junk-warns-state-pension-liabilities-top-250b/

>>87732
>These demographics are the quickest to reproduce, and the quickest to cause a degradation of the societies they inhabit.
This wasn't a problem until after the Victorian age with the invention of modern medicine. And like that, evey new innovation both frees us in some parts and enslaves us in others. The Flynn effect had worn off, which I can say the capture of is very important. Humans still are evolutionary creatures, yet the decay of civilisation may drive man into lower. Through what I may ordain as eugenics can save man as well heighten him to that of over man. The right hand to guide society instead of the left hand.

>>88496
The problem with any top down solution is that the manipulators and psychopaths make a bee line for that power and control then subvert it to their benefit over others.

All solutions are the next problem because the nature of man never changes.

You might first need psychology tests for leadership positions. But even then those become powerful then infiltrated.

>>88084
The true US "debt" is approximately 80 trillion dollars as of last year. This includes all public aka governmental, government-private, and inter-governmental debts. According to the last green book inspection the US "owes" 6 trillion to israel, and has "owed" that amount since 1947. What IS that debt? Belfourt. That specific "debt" hasn't increased, only the increasing amount of payments to prevent the "debt" from being called in.