So I've been with mlpol pretty much every day since April 1st, though I never visited /pol/ before then. I've noticed in my time here that "it's the kikes" is not simply a meme in every instance, but is often the expression a sincerely held belief that the Jews are a sort of special oppressive group.
Now, the following alleged facts are generally advanced in support of that position and I accept them as true:
>Jews (Ashkenazim) have an IQ that is the highest of any ethnic group by a considerable margin
>Jewish culture encourages a hard work ethic and accomplishment
>Jews have used in-group preferences to help other Jews obtain jobs on certain industries, at least in the past
And besides this it is also claimed that
>In every bad event in Western history, you can find at least one Jew
I think that's probably all true, but wouldn't the fourth point be the logical conclusion of the first three? They are a high performing group. They are disproportionately responsible for advancements in science, technology, and culture. It is unsurprising if they also happened to be around for bad events just as surely as they are around for the good, just because they find themselves in positions of importance. And it's forgivable if they prefer members of their own group over outsiders, as that is human nature.
And there are another two claims that I also think are probably true:
>Jewish love for Israel has influenced US foreign policy fairly strongly
>Jews have pushed anti-nationalist ideologies, and also communism.
I think it should be noted that many universalist philosophers, like Leo Strauss and Hannah Arendt, were Jews, and they probably influenced by the feeling that nationalism had failed the Jewish people. But at that time in history, nationalism had failed the Jewish people. They were a displaced ethnic and religious group. In every nation in Europe they were outsiders. So it makes sense that they would think this model of government was prone to failure. And when they received their own nation, doesn't it make sense that they acted to preserve and strengthen it? Every good nationalist should be acting in the interests of their nation. Aren't Jews being good nationalists, and doing what non-Jews should do but don't, when they promote the interests of their nation?
But my biggest problem with blaming the Jews for every thing is that the overwhelming majority of people screwing up the west have been non-Jews. Jean Paul Sartre, Simone de Beauvoir, Michael Foucault, the Marxist philosophers who are perhaps most responsible for modern Communism, Feminism, and general SJWism, were ethnic French. John Rawls and Jurgen Habermas, the authors most responsible for modern globalism, were and are American and German. The vast majority of modern socialist, communist, and globalist world leaders from FDR to Macron have been non-jews. As are most academicians and people in the media. So why do the Jews get special blame?
And meanwhile, the British Prime Minister who in large part helped develop modern traditionalism and conservatism, Benjamin Disraeli, was an Italian Jew, while the person who did the most to undermine liberal media in the past decade - Andrew Brietbart - was also Jewish. To see Jews as a sort of special oppressive class seems to me to be the Communist idea of the class struggle, just with the Bourgeoisie replaced with the Jewish people.
So I ask, why the Anti-Semitism?
>>39078Besides obvious reasons, I have a personal grudge against them do to past events in my life.
Fuck the kikes.
>>39078this is maybe the single worst image i saw so far being posted on this site.
>>39080It's kind of funny though.
>>39080Also see >>36850
Among fluffy images, it's not that cancerous.
since this seems to be one of those threads
It's the strong link between the Jews and the merchant class that is most commonly which this Anti Semitism arises. Like any group, they work within their own determination which is at times more detrimental to their host nation.
I'm going to bump this so I can continue discussion, although engaging with redpill images is makes a proper response considerably more difficult
Tbh I'm still "bluepilled" on jews. I can't admit to a vast conspiracy, there's just too many cogs for it to work at the expected scale. It's pretty much like feminists claiming "Patriarchy".
>>43975Because there isn't one. They don't conspire. They're just a bunch of individuals working towards a common goal, an ideology based in their bible. Otherwise they wouldn't make such blundering mistakes all the time. If they were actually working together in some spooky fucking shadow government, we'd never find out about it.
>>43975The Jewish problem is one of the hardest redpills to swallow partly because it seems implausible for the reasons you said, and partly because pretty much every generation born since WWII has been indoctrinated to believe that antisemitism is the literal worst kind of prejudice. Sooner or later though, it's one you're going to have to swallow, because it's just the plain truth.
I'll grant that there probably isn't some shadowy cabal of Jews directing world affairs from behind the scenes like in a comic book or something. However, if you look deep into just about everything that has fucked up the world in the last 1000 years, from slavery to international banking to Marxism, there's always Jewish names at the top level of control. Always. In modern times, Jews are in control of most of the major media corporations in the world. The entertainment industry is also mostly run by Jews, as is the porn industry.
Wherever Jews are, they live in tight-knit communities and tend to associate mainly with other Jews. They regard being Jewish as their primary identity, ahead of nationality or membership in any other group. Prominent Jews in companies and other organizations tend to prioritize other Jews when deciding who to hire or promote. It's hardly a stretch to imagine that the Jews running large media corporations and entertainment outlets would use these outlets to push agendas favorable to Jews and Israel.
The entertainment industry is mostly what defines culture in modern first world countries. The news media defines the public narrative. Corporations write big checks, which is mainly what influences politicians. Do Jews literally run the world? No. But they influence and manipulate the people who do.
>>43980See I can understand something like what
>>43976 mentions, Islam has the exact same set up where there's rules for conquering a nation politically. I guess if there's a general ruleset jews follow, why can't anyone else follow the same rules? What are the jew rules?
>>43975This, desu.. I'm interested in natsoc, although I find it hard to believe how all Jews could be connected so some kind of decadent social sabotage, or at least, not in an organized fashion.
I'm pretty sure that their degeneracy is just ingrained into their ethnicity, so that they promote social decay while thinking they're doing nothing wrong, due to delusions of persecution; all the while, the rich, powerful, genuinely evil kikes, like Soros and the Rothschild clan, manipulate the rest of the Jews to push their wicked, globalist (((agenda))). I think that some kikes only fight for "diversity", because they think that promoting "tolerance" help them avoid another shoah, while the uber-Jews use that fear to weaken Western society by decaying cultural bonds.
>>43976Good point. They's quite a bit of anti-goy bullshit in the Talmud: If it were talking about any other race/ethnicity/religion, kikes would try to make it illegal...
>>43988Because, unlike the jews, we are divided. And they're driving further splinters through our society to divide us even further, throwing us against eachother while they reap all the harvest. They fucking hate christians the most for a good reason - look at the crusades, look at the last two thousand years, even back before Jesus' time. The christians seriously fucked up any attempts of the jews' trickery. Today, however, there is barely any christianity at all. The pope's word means nothing, and gods are just silly things we make up to pass the time.
Funny, the jewish threat wasn't even the sole motivator at the end of the Weimar republic. It was the restrictions imposed by Europe and the economic downfall of the German economy. We're getting a very similar picture these days, aren't we?
>>39078The jews are not Semitic. Do not allow this dangerous, unfounded propaganda piece to be used. The only true Semites left in the world are in Palestine, which is slowly being destroyed and usurped by the ashekanasis, whom are Khazars (Turkish) with a bit of Mongolian blood.
>>44344Have you ever seen a Jew? They pass as white.
>>44346they cannot escape their genetics, the nose knows
Bumping this so this discussion can be continued
i randomly found this video of robot fish swimming and wanted to share it
http://i.imgur.com/kwHRtrg.gifvthese robot fish were made without the help of jews