The established sites are all fucking leftoid commie bullshit. Antifa and the transtrenders can fucking post and joke around all they want, and nobody says a goddamn thing, but the moment an image they don't like appears on the fucking feed, it's fucking chaos, and it's banned in an instant.
But then you hear of an alternative site, and you go there... It's all fucking alex-jones-tier conspiratard whining, or it's fucking shitposting gone too far into unironic calls to being a gigantic nazi shitfuck- AKA things that THE FUCKING LEFTOID SHITFUCK CUNTS WANT IN THE FIRST PLACE!
The noise is fucking ridiculous. I'm so fucking tired of it.
People shit on centrists when those fucking faggots are literally no fucking better than the commies.
The news is a fucking farce and yet the fucking normalniggers still fucking act like any side has and credence to them. Back in the 90s, conservatism and the fucking fundamentalists caused the exact level of political problems that liberals do today. Fox news was literally labelled "not news" in the 2010s because they were so fucking incompetent, and now the fucking organizations that bashed fox news are now EXACTLY AS BAD!
Fucking media outlets and pedowood faggots cried about America being the "World Police," but now with the fucking chink-literal-secret-police-stations, and the fucking media being bought out by those faggots, THEY'RE THE FUCKING ONE TO TALK!
both sides of the fucking political spectrum are pots and kettles pissing and moaning about how black the other side is, when they're fucking both a fucking cancer.
I fucking hate the political cage match that I feel like I've been thrown into. This isn't even a circus anymore, this isn't even a fucking clown world anymore. This is a goddamn shitfest where the fucking narcissistic mother-in-law is going at the throat of the crazy-redneck-uncle, and yet both of them commit crimes that under a just law, they BOTH would be fucking jailed for.
And the AI bullshit is such a fucking farce too. All the talking heads give fucking noise about possible sociological changes, but the fucking reality, is that it's fucking jews being jews and being greedy, power-hungry fuckers, looking to destroy people's livelihoods so they can save a little bit of money, and they think that AI is the gateway to not-needing people in creative jobs.
Thank you for letting me rant... I'm just so fucking tired of this shit.
>>362730 >>362731 >You got something against being a nazi, nigger? >I don't think OP means NatSoc
You know what? I don't know. I don't fucking know how to use it anymore.
I've read stories of anons who turned their physical self around from fat nobodies to toned athletes thanks to natsoc. I've seen non-anons go from shitposting nazi memes to absolute slobbering leftoids years later. I've seen people who clutch pearls about "not being a real natsoc," too.
Shit. Hitler himself was the biggest fucking example of an SJW.
Hitler was a failed artist who became successful through politics. SJWs are more famous for political activism than they are for their artistic creations. The book Hitler: The Missing Years stated that Hitler fucked anything fleshly with a hole he could to get off. Anyone else does that, anons cry degeneracy. Hitler's regime would've sent a man like himself to the death camps for his physical attributes. He was Austrian-born, so by all accounts, it's the american-equivalent of California Man becoming Governor of Texas and then causing a new civil war. He was an absolute raging control freak to his generals. Just like his mother was a giant raging control freak to him.
I mean. If you guys want to separate what is essentially a heroized-ideal of a governmental system with the world's most famous european dictatorship, I can't stop you.
Shit. I won't even deny that the holocaust's actual jew death count is overinflated, but it simply doesn't make sense that a movement with logistically-industrialized-murder could be falsified for as long as it went on. I think it's more likely that it's "6 million europeans" that suffered in the death camps, not "6 million jews."
I just feel better posting here because of cute ponies, and that the mods actually have restraint, unlike 4cuck and reddit's dogshit mods.
>>362733 Hitler "failed" as an artist when the early jewcucks and their muttoid followers in the Weimar Republic weren't impressed with him refusing to make porn, degen or not. His works are impressive.
The americuck red cross released their 'investigation' into how many kikes died. Total number? 272-282,000. Top 3 causes? Starvation, disease, and suicide due to the (((allies))) bombing all infrastructure, especially train lines and roads.
As for the rest, he was like every other human being: an individual with flaws, faults, successes, and questionable thought processes. He tried his best to become a good person after he understood WHAT a good person could be in that era, despite all the sheep, but especially the sheepdogs, calling him a monster.
>>362733 >Hitler's regime would've sent a man like himself to the death camps More lies. There were no death camps, but labor camps. I understand jews never did and do manual work, so it is very likely that doing actual work was like death for them. Parasitism is their modus vivendi.
>>362733 >He was Austrian-born, so by all accounts, it's the american-equivalent of California Man becoming Governor of Texas and then causing a new civil war. He always saw the german people as being split, not geographically, but politically. In my experience, todays austrians see germany as a completely separate country and state. Adolf Hitler wanted to unite his people under one flag again, as it always was.
>>362759 >>362742 >>362738 Alright. It seems like this was the wrong board to post my rant. Fine. I'll just leave you with the following questions:
Do you seek salvation? or do you seek comfort? community? Which is more important? Are you looking for friendship? Are you looking for magic? Are you really sure that flaming the opposition solves your problems?
Do you want truth, justice, and sanctity? Or just the satisfaction of "beating the other side"?
>>362769 If it's any consolation, I've been on this site a long time, and /pol/ before that, and I more or less agree with you. I can see the appeal in National Socialist values (race and culture trumping liberal pluralism; economics and industry subordinated to the welfare of the nation instead of the other way around; etc), but the actual Nazi regime was even more of a corrupt, dysfunctional bureaucratic clusterfuck than the American system today.
I've actually been reading a pretty detailed biography of Hitler ("Hitler" by Ian Kershaw; both /his/ and /lit/ recommended him when I asked for a thorough and politically unbiased history of the Nazis) and so far I'm finding him to be a less than impressive figure. Tl;dr he was basically a giant blowhard who took almost no active role in his own government, and spent most of his time as chancellor (or dictator, or whatever his title was exactly) ranting about Jews to anyone who would listen and watching King Kong over and over (not joking, feel free to look it up). Also, I've tried to read "Mein Kampf" on three separate occasions and I've never made it more than a third of the way through. It's not a tremendously inspiring book, he just whines about his father and how he hated the Austrian monarchy for the first part, then he whines about Jews for awhile. I don't know what he whines about for the rest of it because that's about as far as I ever got.
It's difficult to criticize Hitler on a site like this for the same reason it's difficult to criticize Trump when having a conversation with some MAGA boomer. Blind hero worship tends to turn otherwise reasonable people into simping retards, and hyperpolarization creates a political landscape where if you're not completely on board with the ideas of one camp, everyone assumes you must be part of the other camp. I agree with you that the whole thing is getting a little exhausting; it's getting to the point where I don't even want to talk or think about politics anymore.
Whatever, though. If nothing else the Nazis had nice aesthetics and the memes are spicy, so Hail Hortler I guess.
>>362771 >It's difficult to criticize Hitler on a site like this for the same reason it's difficult to criticize Trump when having a conversation with some MAGA boomer. MFW the jew lacks self-awareness.
>>362771 >If it's of any consolation It well isnt, you haven't, you're a bald-faced liar, and die in the fire you came from. Well now, let's begin. >/His/ and /lit/ reccommended And yet, here you are. Yes, Hitler was not as based as he could have been, or presented himself as. That doesn't reduce the individual's responsibility to affect as many noble qualities as he can be observed to display . >Blind hero-worship and all Nigger, how new are (you)?
>>362785 >It well isnt, you haven't, you're a bald-faced liar Wasn't addressing you; that it wasn't your post that was being replied to should have clued you in. Also, how exactly am I a bald-faced liar?
>Yes, Hitler was not as based as he could have been, or presented himself as. That doesn't reduce the individual's responsibility to affect as many noble qualities as he can be observed to display . What exactly are you trying to say? If your point is just that Hitler wasn't perfect but he still had some redeeming qualities then fine, but the same can be said for a lot of people. I'm simply stating that I find Hitler to be a mediocre role-model overall, and that I find it lamentable that so many people on the far-right consider defense of him to be the hill that we all need to die on.
>Nigger, how new are (you)? I've been around long enough to understand how IDs and post-quoting works. Observe:
>>362786 >Have some dignity and carry your arguments to fruition, ffs Who is this even addressed to? What arguments would you like to see carried to fruition?
>>362780 >MFW the jew lacks self-awareness. (You) lack self-awareness, as is evidenced by your post. My whole point was that communities like this one worship Hitler to such an extreme that any criticism, no matter how mild or valid, is immediately met with hostility, regardless of the poster's intent. These hostile one-line replies I keep getting only serve to illustrate this. Trump-obsessed boomers behave the same way when you say anything bad about their champion: "whaddaya mean ya don't worship The Donald? whaddarya, some kinda libtard?" Same deal here. I dared to say an unpleasant word about everyone's beloved Uncle Adolf, so I must therefore be a newfag or a kike. This segues into the point that OP was trying to make in the first place: hyperpolarization has progressed to the point that every online community is an echo-chamber, and anyone who deviates from the consensus view is automatically dismissed as a shill. Political discussion is pointless under these conditions, which explains why it's atrophied to such a degree around here.
>>362729 Who even cares about politics at this point? Political imageboards are outdated and irrelevant anyways. >>362769 Maybe stop trying to change the world from your fucking keyboard. >>362730 Everything has been archived. >>362759 And yet here you are, bumping his thread as usual.
People shit on moderates because moderate solutions won't solve extreme problems. All of the decay has been under the watch of moderate liberals and conservatives so people look to more extreme options. Moderates had the opportunity to save the middle class and stabilize the economy but they failed.
>>362733 The majority of your post is just repeating orthodox history slop that has never gone under any type of empirical study. And in the areas it has, its ended up being false, or at least only partially true. >thorough and politically unbiased history of the Nazis You asking this question on /his/ and /lit/ shows a fundamental misunderstanding of this issue. No such thing exists as an unbiased account of history, as whoever is victorious is who writes it. Furthermore, even if this was possible, you're treating this subject like it's a politically neutral field, when it's the farthest from that as possible. There is no single period or subject in history more one-sided and misunderstood than the Nazis and Europe between 1933-1945. And above all, there is arguably no more politicized event than WWII. So, citing some eye witness's book written 12 years after the war ended, as complete truth, is ridiculous. As for Mein Kampf, or whatever, I don't know, I haven't read it because I'm more into the statistical and empirical side of reading, but it's a complex subject. On one side, you have a group of people, most of who never met Hitler, like Churchill, Roosevelt, and these historians, talking about how horrible he was. On the other side you have a group of people who knew pretty well, like Mosley, who offer a much more reasonable and less cartoonish presentation of the man. >Hitler himself was the biggest fucking example of an SJW Central to Hitler's politics was a belief in a natural ranking of mankind and that racial/ethnic groups are inherently different. That puts him at total odds with every SJW on the planet. Complete nonsense. I don't worship the man, nor do I have anything more than a sympathetic attitude for him, but you just repeated so much boomer talk while simultaneously whining about MAGA boomers, it's goofy.
>>362818 >You asking this question on /his/ and /lit/ shows a fundamental misunderstanding of this issue. No such thing exists as an unbiased account of history, as whoever is victorious is who writes it. Furthermore, even if this was possible, you're treating this subject like it's a politically neutral field, when it's the farthest from that as possible. There is no single period or subject in history more one-sided and misunderstood than the Nazis and Europe between 1933-1945. And above all, there is arguably no more politicized event than WWII. So, citing some eye witness's book written 12 years after the war ended, as complete truth, is ridiculous. This, so much. What's more annoying is that most understand this, they are just hypocrites that will dismiss certain proof based on the idea that the source is biased but then use their own sources and act like they have no such thing as a bias. "But this science. But this is history." It's so tiresome, because the same people will act like they are the most clever scrutinising political expert ever when they go like, "Companies only want our money. It's all about money." Except when it comes to socialist obviously, because bureaucrates don't want money (aka power).