/mlpol/ - My Little Politics

>End the Fed
Ahhh I remember as if it was yesterday...

End the Fed and all other central banks and abolish fiat currency. They exist to coordinate inflation of the money supply, raising prices and enriching banksters and governments at the expense of everyone else. Without this inflationary scheme, birthrates would also be higher as it wouldn't be so costly for people to save for the future, and without prices constantly rising, mothers could stay home and raise their children. And without the Fed, the government would not be able to finance its endless Zionist wars and gibs.

>‘US$ is the only real currency!’ Trump demands banking regulation of bitcoin, Facebook’s Libra
https://www.rt.com/business/463972-trump-cryptocurrency-real-dollar/

Never go full jews

have a bump from a casual lurker

Can some one explain to me why the fed and fiat currency is bad? Any time I ask I've never gotten a good answer out of anyone before. Its like nobody actually knows how its supposed to tie into everything. I don't really have an opinion on the matter because I don't feel like I know much about the topics aside from the stuff I learned in pubic school.

Regarding fiat currency I know somewhat more about that than the fed. I know from history that the gold standard was around for a long time. I know that in the 1800s the Populists tried to challenge it with bimetallism so that they could increase the money supply. At the time any increase in inflation was a good thing for them because they wanted to pay back debts to bankers more easily. I know they failed. I don't know when we went off the gold standard either. I've always been traditionally taught that fiat currency isn't bad because it allows for credit that makes economic growth possible. Most people I know seem to think it is less stable but that we would be unable to go back to the gold standard or use bimetallism without curbing economic growth. If we got rid of fiat currency wouldn't the money supply get tight and despite low inflation wouldn't it be hard for normal people to access capital? Big gaps in my knowledge there, but how is fiat currency worse than the alternatives?

The federal bank is even more of a mystery. I've heard a lot about how its bad/good but I can't explain why it is one or another. Doesn't the fed simply monitor interest rates, loan to banks, and mandate how much currency must be kept in bank reserves? Aren't those positive stabilizing effects on the banking system? Is the fed colluding with big banks or mismanaging the system? Again I don't really know much here but I'm going off of the "traditional narrative" I've always been taught in schooling.

>>231923
As I understand it, the FED is a private bank that issues its own money. So, the American government and the people are lending and using paper printed by some jews. Such paper has no intrinsic value (fiat currency), it is only paper with a arbitrary number printed on it telling the people its value and there is nothing tangible to back it up (for example gold).
The great con job here is that the government doesn't need the kike bank at all, because the government can print its own money and avoid to pay interests (usury) to the jews.
So, why not to print its own money and regain independence? The answer is simple and brutal, Adolf Hitler did it and he was at war with every jew capital of the world at that time: New York, London, and Moscow. Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi tried too recently and he was assassinated; Saddam Hussein tried to circumvent the FED's dollar selling Iraq's oil for euros, and war destroyed his country.
Independence from the (((banksters))) is not something easily achievable.

>>231927
https://www.bankofcanada.ca/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/dollar_book.pdf

This will tell you all you need to know about the history of money.

>>231923
The Federal Reserve System is an unholy alliance of the banks and the state. The banks benefit because the Fed allows them to coordinate inflation of the money supply by setting the reserve rate (the lower the reserve rate, the more all the banks can inflate) and expanding the base supply of money the banks can inflate upon. It also bails them out when they get themselves in trouble. It benefits the state because the Fed will buy any debt the government has (in the form of bonds) and use it to increase the money supply, meaning the state always has a willing funder for its wars and welfare, whereas taxpayers might object to explicit tax increases (ultimately, they end up paying anyway, through lost value of savings and increased prices.) This system also creates recessions and depressions through its credit expansion. In regards to your question about economic growth, it's worth noting that the 1880s were a period of strong economic growth coupled with decreasing money supply. I might articulate more fully on the problems with the Fed later.

A History of Central Banking and the Enslavement of Mankind
Written by a banking whistleblower, this is mandatory /pol/ reading

Central banking was a good idea in the days of gold-backed currencies but the fiat-money and the keynesian economy and the goal of inflation have such negative effect that it should be dealt with immediately. We should hang those responsible.

>>231998
1st gold.standard did not last for long and did address the UK pound dominance which was enslaving the world.
2nd the FED is run very differently to other central banks. I might diss.dr.carney but the BoE decision are well justified and have kept things stable and kept confidence in the market. Much of this can be attributed to the decision to make BoE independant of political interferance. The FED is not in the same position because of hand.shake nepotism.
3rd I would agree that 2% global inflation target fucks up natural econimics and causes a permanent divide between rich.poor. That target is imposed politically so you should not blame central banks for the enslavement. You should blame democratic.masturbatory insanity.

>>232036
Would you mind sharing some of the knowledge about the pound and the BoE?

>>232036
oh and I still believe that a currency backed by something is far better than a currency backed by nothing, that inflation robs the people of there wealth, that keynesian economics (thought up by socialists by the way) is pure cancer and that the people responsible should be hanged
look at what is happening in europe

>>232038
Plenty of stuff on.line can explain better than me. Although all currencies are measured against the dollar now the pound is still the most traded daily. That is largely because of the London Stock Exchange having a very large portfolio and people needing the pound to trade on it.
What is happening recently since 2016 is that because of the vote to leave Europe the BoE decided not to gradually raise interest rates and has effectively stalled the UK economy ready to re.start once a deal.or.not has been finalised. This has meant the pound value is about 10% below its true worth. Those with money trade on that week.on.week via political.speech and timed.forecasts. They are essentially fluctuating the pound value more than in the past and skimming of the cream. Three years of this is doing serious damage to the UK economy. It is however expected that once the politics is settled that the pound will re.set at a higher value. Personally I think three years of damage may not be as simple a recovery as others do. However in global terms trump.china is more of a concern. The good thing the BoE has managed is that if the world goes into collapse the UK and pound is robust enough to suffer a 15% loss of total GDP. The norm for other countries.currrncies is 1% including the dollar. The UK would be top.dog but that scenario is vey unlikely.

>>231927
>As I understand it, the FED is a private bank that issues its own money. So, the American government and the people are lending and using paper printed by some jews. Such paper has no intrinsic value (fiat currency), it is only paper with a arbitrary number printed on it telling the people its value and there is nothing tangible to back it up (for example gold).

That doesn't explain why the common arguments for fiat currency are wrong, isn't the value derived from the political and economic stability of the US government. Wasn't the gold standard abandoned because having money value fixed to gold meant the money supply was too limited? If there is only so much gold then can't your economy only support so much wealth?

>The great con job here is that the government doesn't need the kike bank at all, because the government can print its own money and avoid to pay interests (usury) to the jews.

So the government is paying interest on money the fed is printing for it? How so?

>So, why not to print its own money and regain independence? The answer is simple and brutal, Adolf Hitler did it and he was at war with every jew capital of the world at that time: New York, London, and Moscow.

I'm no expert on the banking system in the third reich, but Hitler wanted to achieve autarky. Jewish institutions boycotted Germany, but trying to achieve autarky destroyed Germany economically. Autarky would guarantee independence from international jewish finance (capitalism) but Germany never could of supported itself in autarky. As soon as the foreign currency reserves dried up Germany HAD to invade other countries or face economic ruin. Hitler chose to break from the capitalistic economic system and go socialist. I get why he did that but it doesn't mean an economic war was declared on Nazi Germany that caused its destruction. To get German "out" of the depression the Nazis used social spending, public works, and rearmament programs paid for with money form assets they liquidated or didn't have.

>>231945
That sounds about right, but didn't the pre-fed era have its own problems? I always hear bank runs being mentioned during the era. I don't know if the fed has anything to do with that or if it was fixed by instating the FDIC. Sure the 1880s were good but the depression of the 1870s was almost as bad as the Great Depression. Ideally how would the system work without the fed? Same as the old system but with some of the post depression laws like the FDIC still in effect or something entirely new?

So is the problem with the fed that its too comfy with the banks and the government? The original intent was that the fed would keep banks from going up and destroying people's money? Instead the banks are able to rely on the fed helping them so much that they can get away with poor management and risky practices? This is because the fed will loan to them or alter interest rates to "save" them?

>>232315
I waited for some volunteer to come forward to engage you perhaps in some kind of hegelian argument, even if the matter is economics.
The theme at hand is vast and hard to cleanly unfold without to define precisely terms like "value", "currency", "stability", "scarcity", "output", "labor", and so on.
My knowledge of macro economics is good, but not so good to confront a seasoned commie loaded with (((Das Kapital))) under the arm, which I suspect you are.
So to make things brief and not let this thread die without some basic answers, let me give you some canned ones, even if that will earn me the title of NPC. Sorry to disappoint you, or perhaps to confirm that that you think already know, but I am not in the mood to type a wall of text.

>So the government is paying interest on money the fed is printing for it? How so?
It is called serving the debt.
The jews print the money and the world, not just USA, must pay them the mandatory usury for their gentleness.

>I'm no expert on the banking system in the third reich
OK, there is plenty of disinformation published by the kikes and their golems, let me point to alternative sources:
1- International Capitalism: How Money is Created
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Xsp9EnwyACFO/ <--- (General info about how it works)
2- NSDAP Social Philosophy and Economic Theory
https://www.bitchute.com/video/UDagBiD4Gqo/ <--- (You must watch this one. It is normie friendly)

>but didn't the pre-fed era have its own problems?
It is not about difficulties, but control and who extract resources from the rest.

>>232395
>The jews print the money
And before some light thinking heads point out that sovereign governments print their own currency, let me mention that central banks have the mission "to control" such sovereignty.

I've deleted two different responses I thought up, so I'll make this one simple. I'm not a communist. I'd like to be indignant about being called a communist just because I don't buy into nat soc economics, but I'm sure if I got defensive about it you'd just cite that as "proof" you "called me out" correctly. I appreciate that despite your belief in me being a communist, you did provide some responses even if they are understandably short. I skimmed a bit of the second video and the author is citing "Wages of Destruction" so it can't be that bad. I'll make time to watch it. All of this boils down to how much and to what degree either of us believe the jews control the world. It has been argued about in the tech monopoly thread in the past so I'll just drop it here because it will simply retread the same ground again. I'd also like to point out that I'm still not even denying the fed is a bad thing. Hence the questions at the end. Americans have resisted a federal bank since Jacksonian times, they couldn't of done it for no reason.

This is the video that discusses many of the concepts I'm arguing for why National Socialist economics were poor prior to the first world war. I'm not getting my rhetoric from Das Kapital or the Communist Manifesto.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/PQGMjDQ-TJ8/

>>232411
>>232395
My apologies forgot to quote your post in my response.

>>232315
>That doesn't explain why the common arguments for fiat currency are wrong, isn't the value derived from the political and economic stability of the US government. Wasn't the gold standard abandoned because having money value fixed to gold meant the money supply was too limited? If there is only so much gold then can't your economy only support so much wealth?

Value is derived from how much people consider the thing to be valuable. Some people value chips highly versus dollars and will pay $5 for a bag of chips; others value them lowly and will pay only $0.50. Because there are lots of people buying chips and lots of people making chips, the price tends to equalize around the amount which people would purchase and producers would sell.

The problem with fiat is that it is utterly arbitrary and can be changed willy-nilly. Contrary to what mainstream sources claim, currency is not the source of wealth but only its measure. It doesn't matter how much money is in circulation because there is a fixed supply of real resources.
With a relatively fixed supply of currency, prices will remain stable or will slowly drop as money will be worth more in relation to a growing amount of goods. This encourages saving and investment. Keynesians consider this disastrous. They and the other side of the (((economic dialectic))), neo-classicals, want the money supply to be controlled by a central bank.

The central bank can adjust the money supply in three ways. Mainly, though, it buys or sells bonds on the open market. It buys treasury notes from the (((member banks))) in exchange for free money. The goal is to provide "liquidity" to the market. However, what happens is the (((banks))) use the new currency at current prices, reaping full benefits. The next one who had received the currency in exchange finds prices to be slightly higher, but still has a net benefit. And on and on, until the prices have risen in response to the injection, and after that point the rise in prices will have outpaced any individual benefit. Average consumers get shafted because by the time they see any increase in income (such as in wage increase), they've already had to deal with higher prices for some time.
A Fedkike explains how it works himself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XX2_vel-i5I

>So the government is paying interest on money the fed is printing for it? How so?
Whenever the government goes into debt (which is all the time) it issues a treasury note (https://www.investopedia.com/terms/t/treasurybill.asp). It's a bond, meaning in exchange for money now, it will pay the complete amount in a specified amount of time plus interest. Individuals, corporations, and even governments can purchase these notes. When the Federal Reserve "prints" money, it's simply taking these notes and exchanging them with credit which can be exchanged for cash. This has the side effect of lowering the interest rate because there are fewer bonds in circulation and therefore less competition to get people to pick them up.
(https://www.thebalance.com/how-is-the-fed-monetizing-debt-3306126)

>That sounds about right, but didn't the pre-fed era have its own problems? I always hear bank runs being mentioned during the era. I don't know if the fed has anything to do with that or if it was fixed by instating the FDIC. Sure the 1880s were good but the depression of the 1870s was almost as bad as the Great Depression. Ideally how would the system work without the fed? Same as the old system but with some of the post depression laws like the FDIC still in effect or something entirely new?

People tend to forget that states had their own banks which engaged in similar practices to the modern Fed, albeit in a far less sophisticated manner. Here's a pretty good rebuttal for your argument. https://tomwoods.com/ep-418-the-truth-about-one-of-those-pre-fed-depressions/

t. economics major

>>232411
>National Socialist economics were poor prior to the first world war.
NatSoc came to power in 1933, 15 years after the end of WWI.
>This is the video that discusses many of the concepts...
To begin with, at 3:55 and 4:20 the talker says that Hitler was evil.
At 4:00 he calls Hitler a failed artist, meaning he is parroting jewish bullshit and never saw Hitler's works; seriously.
And many other statements that are just "character assassination" made to fit with the conscious collective imprinted by the jews on the population (meaning jewish propaganda).
The talker says that food and commerce where the a determinant issue, which is a dumb explanation.
There were many DEEPER factors at play, such the financing not only of Hitler's movement, but also the german technological sector by (((Wall Street))), and the "official" arrangement with the zionists to evacuate the german jews to Madagascar and later to Palestine before the war.
From the above many people jumped to the conclusion that Uncle Adolf was a (((banksters)))' plant; however facts refute that. The Gestapo assisted by the SS were tasked to destroy every Freemason and similar zionist' spearhead organizations, some members of the Rothschild family were taken into custody and released after the payment of a colossal bounty, and even one or two died in prison.
So, to make it short, the video is plenty of incorrect and misleading assessments. It is bull crap for the brainwashed normie tier chump.
And for you, I suggest to lurk moar. The redpilling is slow and have to be ingested in small doses.

>>232420
>NatSoc came to power in 1933, 15 years after the end of WWI.
My mistake, I meant to type the second world war not the first.

>To begin with, at 3:55 and 4:20 the talker says that Hitler was evil.
At 4:00 he calls Hitler a failed artist, meaning he is parroting jewish bullshit and never saw Hitler's works; seriously.
And many other statements that are just "character assassination" made to fit with the conscious collective imprinted by the jews on the population (meaning jewish propaganda).
That is understandable, but a key point that he is also trying to drive home is that Hitler was not a madman. Even if he personally thinks Hitler's policies were "evil" he is saying they were supported by conclusions based on logic and reason: Racial Science and what he dubs, "The Shrinking Markets Problem." The classic narrative dismisses Hitler's "logic" because socialists and moderates are afraid people will turn into Nazis if they also hear and believe his reasoning. It is the same reason communists what to convince people fascists and national socialists are interchangeable. They don't want people to see how they are different and potentially adopt their ideas.

I've watched the first hour of that documentary so far and it is as accurate as I can tell. The author is obviously interpreting National Socialist economics from a positive lens, but he is acknowledging where problems did exist in the Reich economy. Its worth noting that if you subscribe to classical liberal individualistic values, many "positives" of the National Socialist economy are "negatives" and visa versa. I don't find Hitler's social programs particularly negative, but I'll hold on any further comment until I get around to watching the other hour and a half.

>>232419
Thanks, that's really informative. Whenever I asked my gen ed econ professor about why people hate the fed he couldn't really give me as substantial of a answer. This makes much more sense. I'm a history guy so most of my history professors aren't very good with economics but the few econ professors I've got weren't as great with economic history either. Usually they are just biz types.

>>232476
Here I found more info about NatSoc economics from one of /ourguys/, VertigoPolitix. His channel have been deleted as well many mirrors of his videos, but some are still up.

German War Against Globalism, part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf3JGmnkwNY
German War Against Globalism Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRQEAbPVImE

>>233692
Fuck Alexander Hamilton, the bastard who popularized the idea of American debt.

>>233738
As I see it, there are two choices.
1- We enter into a new era (NWO) where countries gave sovereignty to international capital because they own us, meaning we will be "officially" ruled by a corporation, or…
2- We witness a revolution where nations' will are reinstated and oligarchs and associated golems are gutted.

>>233743
Indeed. And we won't reach #2 by doing nothing and waiting for the Collapse to come.

The whole subject is weird and every time I think I got it I run into contradictions.
None the less I still think that fiat money, keynesianism and (monetary) inflation have much more downsides than upsides.

>>238499
I check your digits sir

Godfrey Bloom exposes the banking scam.

>>242160
This is beautiful. Thanks Anon!

He seems to be another Zionist jew. He’s always hanging around the war hawks like Pompeo, You don’t see HUD secretary Ben Carlson war hawking.

>The original white extremist
https://www.bitchute.com/video/734Zk3MoGu87/
The Jews, the Fed, our enslavement.

The financial system, explained by Ken O'Keefe.

Fed Up Preacher Explains to his Congregation the Usurious Federal Reserve System.

Tweet saved at https://archive.li/nBYro

>>261504
>Do the opposite of what JEWsa says
Based Britbong

>>259829
Isn't this the failed son of the gigakikes who is fucking a niggeress? What a cohencidence that he saw this coming months ago.

-Corona-Chan is a scripted event for the transition to a global currency and one government.
-With massive bailouts for the private sector the the merge of corporations with the State is sealed, which it's the definition of fascism.
-Small and medium enterprises are being swept by the economic shutdown and the monopoly of the big corporations is paved.
-A cashless society and total control on the population is next.
-Resistance will be smashed.
-And the interview ends with the disclaimer that the interviewee is a 32 degree mason and "mason are your friends". I kid you not.

>Financial Expert: Central Banks Fostering Global Collapse By Design
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P33HS9D8Grs

>>263582
>looks to the side @ 1:16
Fucking liar.

>>263582
Operation Talpiot AKA the La Sia backed Talpiot Program.

>Federal Reserve Announces Unlimited Money Printing Operations
>In the long term, this makes the existing money in circulation less valuable because they’re creating more of it on their computers.
>If this continues, it will be more economical to use paper currency as toilet paper than actual toilet paper. This is something that actually happened in Zimbabwe.
https://infostormer.com/federal-reserve-announces-unlimited-money-printing-operations/
Inflation is the poor's tax.

>>263855
Yes! hyper inflation Good!

>>263855
>inflation
But they have the solution to the chaos and robbery created by themselves ---> digital currency. The Fed will reinvent itself and (((masters))) will have control on every single transaction. Expect your assets to be frozen and seized if you step out of the line.

Clip: NWO Cashless Digital Currency Silently Slipped into CV Stimulus Bill.

May 1, 1933. Hand over the gold.

So, I am a total brainlet when it comes to the FED and the central banking system. Is End the Fed a good book to get? I would appreciate other book recommendations as well.

>>266057
Murray Rothbard wrote about it a lot. The Case Against the Fed,
History of Money and Banking in the United States: The Colonial Era to World War II, The Origins of the Federal Reserve, and What Has Government Done to Our Money? are all worth taking a look at, and can be found as free pdfs at mises.org

This is from July 2019, and I think is relevant today.
The pieces are falling in place and the whole begins to make sense.
Populism aka nationalism is being railroaded and set up to fail. It's scripted by the kikes.

>It's Obvious Who Will Replace Trump After The Controlled Demolition Of The Economy
>In the months leading up to the 2016 election I had been predicting a Trump win based on a particular theory which I believe still holds true today – namely the theory that the global banking elites in power were allowing so-called “populist” movements in the US and Europe to gain political traction near the very end of the decade long “Everything Bubble”.
>Once populist groups were entrenched and feeling overconfident, the cabal would then tighten liquidity into existing economic weakness and crash the system on their heads. Populists would get the blame for an economic disaster that the central banks had engineered many years in advance.
>Once enough suffering had been dealt to the populace, globalists and extreme leftists would arrive on the scene to offer anti-populism as a solution; meaning the centralization and socialization of everything on a scale never before witnessed except perhaps in the darkest days of the Bolshevik Revolution.
http://www.alt-market.com/articles/3855-its-obvious-who-will-replace-trump-after-the-controlled-demolition-of-the-economy

U.S. debt to the (((banksters))).

U.S. Debt Clock.
https://www.usdebtclock.org/index.html

>Louis Farrakhan Exposes the Rothschilds and Bankers, 1995
>The Champion of Truth, The Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan delivered this powerful informative message in Springfield, Mass. on 1, 1995.
>Minister Louis Farrakhans great speach in 1995 on the Rothchild family and how central bankers rule our world.
>Minister Farrakhan exposing the synogauge of Satan and its agents: The Rothschilds and Warburgs. This lecture was done during a very special Saviours Day in 1995, preceding the Million Man .
>Excerpts from a very powerful speech by The Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan entitled, Conspiracy of the International Bankers: The Takeover of America Done 1, 1995 in Springfield,.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ff7wJTbqdc
Mirror:
>FARAKKAHN'S BEST SPEECH EVER EXPOSES ROTHSCHILDS, FEDERAL RESERVE, ADL, FBI IN 1995 SPEECH
https://www.bitchute.com/video/berW1N4ttLxd/
This muslim negro names the Jew and ALL the dirty tricks on the American People. Outstanding speech.

>>232420
out of curiosity hitlerfag, why did hitler get pissy about his jet engineers and demand they use the tech to build bombers instead of immediately apply the technology to fighters in defense of german infrastructure? that seems like a throw too deliberate to be easily accounted for and I would like your input.

>>273984
This is the Fed thread, stick to the money newfag.
Do not derail the thread faggot.

Thorough and short explanation how the financial scam works and how the money masters cause crashes and depressions to rob people's wealth.
>David Icke
>While You Were Preoccupied......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PXNAsLRh64 (10:27 long)

Are you guys aware of the shadowgate thing?

>>279860
Yup. ---> >>279632 →

>>279867
So is it legit or just a scam? /pol/ is going crazy about it.

>>279907
I would say this is Qanon tier stuff, but for normie web.
90% is true and 10% misdirection.
In the end, it doesn't matter if it's true or not because never ever the people mentioned or involved will be punished, what matters is the 10% meant to give the "conservatives" the false impression that "they're winning" and "the storm is coming"; so they relax and will never organize and attack the criminals.

So what the hell is keeping this shit U.S. economy alive?

>>279928
>lazy nigger won't read
Study the info in this thread, everything needed is here.

>Century of Enslavement: The History of The Federal Reserve
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IJeemTQ7Vk
Mirror: https://www.bitchute.com/video/zwdCl18pslkC/

A Quick Look at Fiat Currency.

Any finance anon that can look at this?

>>283123
So if I understand this right (without looking at 13(3) or the transaction thingies), the SuperSpecialAccount (cpff) for relief and broader economic activities. All the cool stuff, like US dollars, foreign bucks, and ESF, ect. A National bank if you will.
Then the Treasurer also turns the jew gold stealing powers into Exchange Stabilization Fund (TheOTHERSuperCoolAccount (esf)).
That's how they got the gold if what anon claims is true.
And IMF is held with majority shares (it's an organization company thing) in the US.

So here's the rundown.
CPFF is only held by the Treasurer, he tells the people to go get the gold using the ESF backed by previous legal previously jew powered greed.
It can get more than just gold.
Treasurer has the money.
This can go one of three ways.
This is the corner stone to create the NWO, with the US as the head. President Trump has played his plan (((they))) can't destroy the US without overhauling everything.
Or turn the US into a puppet state as they try to unfucker things.
This is another elaborate means to ensure no one is above the long arms of the Treasury.
This robs (((them))) of all their power, wealth, and ambitions. They can't fuck up anymore. No more ussery, no more US interest to the FED, US might get out of fucking debt, (((they))) lost everything of monetary value. They can't just bank roll things by ass loads of interest.

One thing is certain whoever holds the presidency, and who his treasurer is decides the fate of the US economy, the world economy, and how much influence (((they))) can gather.
This is one hell of a find.

They will lose their money by trying to continue to manipulate the world. But they are actually losing money. Not just good goy bucks, or even gold, they have to work to get that money.
That was Six Months ago.
It is now possible to starve them of (((their))) power.

>>283123
By the half of those posts, I stopped reading.
There's plenty of "WE" and that's absurd because only (((them))) matter and have all the cards in the game. "WE" are spectators and outsiders at best and meant to take the brunt of the debt owed to the banksters.
As long as people don't understand that playing the Rothschild game of finance is a lose-lose situation for everybody except (((them))) nothing will change.
Opting out from the kike financial system and to conduct trade by bartering or alternative methods is the path for freedom. Hitler did it and 5 five years Germany reborn in a mighty powerhouse.

>>283140
It is a bunch of the same in every post. No further context, nothing special just repeating things on loop.
>>283127
Speaking of the Fed has FedNow for instant transitions.
Cashless is coming.

>>286430
Too many words, I made it a little more to the point.

Ron Paul - There's No Need In A Free Society To Have An Income Tax.

What if we nationalize the Fed like Hitler did?

>>289572
Remember what happened next.

>>292005
The problem starts getting solved?

>>227245
BASED AND END THE FED THREAD

>>289572
that's socialism.

>>279928
the fed..by lending trillions to multi billion dollar corporations for 0% interest and loaning the US govt "money" by digitally printing dollars.

>>292230
>that's socialism.
Does not apply here, the matter is who and how the money is issued.
Hitler took over the printing machine issuing sovereign money and backed by labor, not gold, not reserves.
This meant total freedom from the (((banksters))).

>>292006
Fix your png dipshit

>>292244
That's better than what we have now, but in the long term the only way to ensure the currency is not debased is to abolish the monopoly of the state over the issuance of currency and outlaw fractional-reserve banking. Even if the central bank under Hitler or whoever preserves the value of the Reichsmark or whatever currency, there's no guarantee that a whoever is in charge in 50 years won't see fit to devalue the currency, to gain popular support or bail out an in-law's incompetently run business or fund his pet project, and set the country up for a recession.

>>292268
Be happy it's png. https://youtu.be/QEzhxP-pdos

>>292244
Fuck that. I’d rather have the people, a free market determine interest rates and the value of money. Not some arbitrary government agency.

>>292244
Also Hitler was forced to take his currency off the gold standard due to the large debts from fighting the war against the allies. Towards the end of his reign the Nazi dollar was pure fucking shit and obviously became nothing. Governments tend to overspend especially large governments, that’s why we need the smallest government possible and a gold standard.

>>292268
At least it's not a .JFIF

>>292312
>fuck total freedom from the banksters
>keep interest on the money (usury)
Are you even White?

>>292314
>Also Hitler was forced to take his currency off the gold standard due to the large debts
Germany had no gold at all to back anything. Uncle Adolf took the most practical and efficient approach to make the miracle of to resurrect the Reich, and it worked wonderfully.
>the gold standard
Nope, such a standard is jewish and expose your currency to be manipulated by other gold holders outside your border. Labor backed currency is the way to make it bulletproof.
>Towards the end of his reign the Nazi dollar was pure fucking shit and obviously became nothing.
Naturally, the country was invaded and ransacked; the German people displaced, raped, tortured and genocided. Did you expect something different?

>>292323
interest rates are a natural part of a free market, are you fucking dumb? People need to borrow money. Not even reading the rest of your post.

>>292367
free people > "free" market

Interest was illegal in Christendom for centuries (yes, even for kikes who happened to live there), and people simply found better ways of borrowing money.
Here's a simplified explanation of one way people made it work:
>Mario of Florence wants to go on a merchant expedition to Greece
>knows it will cost him 100 gold florins
>Il Banco di Medici agrees to give him 100 florins as insurance
>Mario agrees to give Il Banco di Medici 150 florins upon his successful return to Florence

You may have noticed how this is significantly less disgusting and evil than the way kike interest slavery works today:
>be Schlomo Goldbergenblatt
>swindle America into thinking a college degree is a basic necessity of life
>make it so you can't get a college degree without applying for a loan with high interest
>force Americans to spend decades paying off college debts whether their degrees can get them jobs or not

TL;DR fuck interest fuck kikes and fuck (((you))).

>>227245
Bernie voted against the bill to audit the fed.
Just saying.

>>292373
>Mario of Florence wants to go on a merchant expedition to Greece
>knows it will cost him 100 gold florins
>Il Banco di Medici agrees to give him 100 florins as insurance
>Mario agrees to give Il Banco di Medici 150 florins upon his successful return to Florence
That's interest, retard, whatever they may have called it.

>>292383
Play your semantics games all you want, but there is a huge difference between agreeing to repay your lender a fixed amount of money dependent upon your success and being burdened with a 20% compound interest rate by Mr. Goldstein. The older model much more closely resembles an investment than it does the modern practice of usury.

>>292387
>>292383
https://fee.org/articles/aoc-and-tucker-are-wrong-about-usury-and-christianity/
you both could stand to read this.
Lending to students for a shitty degree is definately the kind of usury called out in the bible, and lending to recieve any kind of compensation is text book OT usury.

>>292415
>lending to recieve any kind of compensation is text book OT usury
This.

>>292373
>100, gets 150 in return, 40% interest

kys you dumb fag get off this board

>>292387
>comparing monopolized credit card companies to a true free market economy

you get to decide the contents of the contract you sign with in a free market, you get to decide by deciding to go to a 20% compound interest kike or a 40% flat interest like the example you gave...either way its interest except in a free market the government doesn't protect the jews... you're cringe as fuck and a fucking idiot.

What's the best alternative to the fed?
National banks, or competing heavily-regulated bank businesses?

>>293575
TLDR people you and everyone trusts including each other.
>heavily regulated banks with high competition
That's what we have now at least in the us.
The problem has a few sides, first the currency despite what the lawyer goes through about bonds and reserves fundamentally it is a loan taken out against the people by the US given a a loan backed by those human resources.
Then the people get a part of those loans in bank notes to redeem it.
People -> Govt -> Central Bank (sometimes treasury) -> Other Banks -> Legal tender -> People (or foriegn)
People then pay other people or the govt.
Taxes enforces the use of legal tender, circulation of it backed by stuff.

The act of creating Goods, Services, or creating the means of creating those things (ie labor) is decent that ought to also have a physical analogue (or multiple) as a backing.
Not debit which is owed, but a certificate of what has been done. (Technically it's sorta the same but...)
Then who creates the notes? Or verification of labor?
Bitcoin says whoever resolves transactions.
Banks say it is the holder of loans which is debited.
Some say it's the contractional agreements between parties.
Others say it's the meta representation of a physical good/service.

The person(or persons)/entity (or entities) with the highest trust (usually collective trust) backs and gives the currency its value.

So simply what is required is a high trust society, that the one with the most trust (or strongest friendship bonds) is the one who enriches the money. Also increases or decreases in value with how others value everyone else.
Such as who accepts that currency and fulfills the obligations associated. The more wide spread it is the more valuable is it as a currency as a means of trade.

Basically having people you trust to do a good job (also for making money), then backed by reciprocity.
This should be stable throughout time. Thus the people who would get the most would be the ones with hight trust, and does the most public and private good.
Theoretically, and quickly skimmed.

Why this isn't the case for loan money and wage slavery is because everything is always in the red. When it tries to recover those that can be content, and secure in their wealth have the amount needed. Those without feel the contraction the most (besides welfare) they must sell or else. Then the ones who can buy buys the 'or else' for very very little. Basically the value fluctuates.

>>293579
There's three extremely subtle problems with what you're asking about. First, a "serialized product", ie: something made by a human artisan that CAN be copied by a machine/A.I. is nothing more than a contemporary fad that might last a couple years at best. Look at any CAD (plastic/rubber/wood/metal product) or plasma-cut object. Anyone with access to those machines can order them to be made through a machine interface without having to expend a great deal of honest, earnest, worthwhile energy to create the end result. The only energies expended are shekels (time) and material (fake labor), which directly impinges on the true labor cost of production. Both CAD and plasma cutting machinery require three objectives: make sure the base item fits, that the base item can be machine milled/cut without requiring ANY understanding of the deliberative processes necessary, and that the end result can be mass produced. The second problem is that a service is an affirmative action or reaction to the usage of specific goods in a specific context. The best comparison I can give to you on this is being medically treated for a severe wound: the biological technician (nurse, doctor, etc.) needs to have the appropriate SKILL LEVEL to utilize any number of produced tools to remove foreign objects (if any), the knowledge of which disinfectants and clotting agents to utilize, and the aftercare which will determine whether or not the wound heals properly. This example is called a necessary good-in-service, during which a great deal of experience and physical goods are used under the supervision of someone that has excellent knowledge of their craft is able to aid others. The third is that ALL currencies which aren't a useful or valuable substances in their own right are eminently corruptible: anything that isn't copper, nickel, iron, silver, gold, platinum, etc. etc. etc. are worthless. Fake currencies, on the other hoof or hand can be made from almost anything. Do you have a lawn? Fun fact: you can let grass grow for half a year, harvest it, then process the pulp to create paper. It's a fucktarded simple process. Real currency, that is: mining a substance to extract it, refining said substance into a form or shape, then using said substance as a trade good so that the user of coinage/mintage/object to acquire trade goods that are not available to the user, has become a "lost art". Loan money and wage slavery are the same, just as judeo-capitalism and judeo-communism/judeo-socialism is one side of the same 2-sided coin: both NEVER appreciate. Paper money and digital currency are fake since they cannot be quickly redeemed, cannot NATURALLY improve in value, and are able to be easily copied depending on the whims of a controlling agency. This is why every corporate-owned land mass across the world which is nearly all cuntries, nations, regions, etc. inevitably suffers from a Great Depression via consistent declines: by pawning off paper money as "legitimate", the useful goyim typically fail to recognize what the real value of hard goods, and metals, means to them, and as such their economy almost always decreases.

>>293607
Fuckit I accidentally deleted post.
I agree what you said.
The currency is becoming more worthless over time isn't good for people.
The Product and Services is an economic term for loads of shit people buy.
The biggest problem is true value labor, and buying random crapass shit.

Net neutral currency that at the very least doesn't devalue.

>>295985
More importantly: this is called the war economy. For those anons that have little interest in the banking scheme, I'll provide the shortest possible example:
Consider how many shekels a newly founded oil company needed to start up 80 years ago, which was around 400,000. Where does this company, whether bankrolled by investors (stakeholders) or not, get the necessary equipment, machinery, material, and labor from? They apply to take out a loan using either solvent, insolvent, or both debts from a bank by calling it 'fluid capital', also known as funny money/paper money. This is known as stakeholding, ie: taking the 'stake' (either solid currency or funny money/paper money backed by labor, metals, gems, etc.) from bankholders (humans with funds 'stored' in a bank account, though bankholders are at the lowest end of the banking scheme). With that OBLIGATED debt in hand, the corporation then hires skilled & unskilled labor after or during the period when all necessary equipment, machinery, and material are bought. Construction starts as soon as a valid oil reserve is discovered, is bought, is traded for, or the landowner/sharer signs a written contract to acquire a specific or fluctuating share of profits made.

As you read this, you'll notice a number of red flags causing you to ask, "Wait, there's a lot of problems with this. I can't go out and buy a car by simply promising to pay for it! I have to prove I've got a stable wage (NOT AN INCOME!!!) so I can pay installments, or pay for it outright! How does a corporation have the privilege to sidestep that requirement?" That is technically the right question to ask, however, this question brings up the more sinister aspect of the banking scheme: "Who actually pays for all this?" The answer: the bankholders, that is, the people 'storing' funds in a bank. Why isn't the newfound company responsible? ALL corporate loans are, and this is extremely important: government approved. Corporate loans are NOT BUSINESS LOANS since a business loan MUST be repaid within a set number of months or years. In fact, a corporate loan which goes unpaid MUST either be charged to the bankholders, OR added to local/state/federal tax requirements at the end of each year... which means, and you've probably guessed this by now: everyone gets to pay more shekels to either banking kikes (in the form of "interest" [also known as usury]) or to government kikes! There's no difference between the two except by how quickly you get screwed over. The most important fact to take from this mini-explanation is this: a corporation cannot fail, it is ALWAYS propped up by an illegitimate bank, a government, or both. But WHY does this problem exist? A corporation is, in legal terms, called an 'incorporation', the 'in' portion meaning that it IS a private corporation, but that it has the full backing of a local/state/federal government office since it will either:
#1: produce goods/services solely for the government or agencies owned by the government
#2: produce goods/services solely for the government military which is controlled by other agencies owned by the government
#3: produce goods/services solely for the secret agencies of either the government or the governmental military via other agencies
#4: produce additional revenue via taxation on the 'consumer' (a term meaning wage slave or salary slave whom has no choice BUT to pay taxes/tariffs/fees on those goods and/or services)
#5: all of the above.

How does this fit into the war economy scheme? Using the above example, when you purchase 1 gallon (or if you're in Yuropoor regions: 1 liter) of any fuel, YOU pay a certain % of additional tariffs/taxes/fees that "allows" government, military, and agency usage OF ALL FUELS essentially 'free to use'. If 100 people each buy 10 gallons of fuel at 2 Jewnited Estates shekels per gallon, that equates to 2,000 shekels overall. Now, suppose that 50 cents (or 25%) from each gallon is composed of tariffs/taxes/fees, then that means 500 shekels worth of fuel is "freely available for use" by government, military, and agency usage.

tl;dr: the "consumer" gets jewed no matter what the corporation is or does. Look at every single tech, oil, weapons, or vehicle corporation. Each has DOZENS of contracts with the federal government. They can't lose or go under since they have federal protection (Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac ring any bells? If not, look them the fuck up). They can't be dismantled since they are "a necessity for federal contracts because they provide X, Y, and Z". They can't be "defunded" due to the previous statement. Worst of all, they can't fail since they is !!TOO IMPORTANT TO FAIL!!, or !!TOO BIG TO FAIL!!

To make up for all this, have a pony.

>>296065
Those first two made me laugh, thank you.

>>296109
Different anon but you might like this one too

>The Federal Reserve is Preparing for a Massive Market Crash and Credit Freeze
>Longtime Wall Street trader and cryptocurrency proponent Gregory Mannarino explains the perfect storm that is assembling on the financial horizon.
https://www.activistpost.com/2021/02/federal-reserve-preparing-market-crash-credit-freeze.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQNLWAKz9LE
FYI, this guy Mannarino is a self-confessed 32 degree freemason.

>>227245
I sure wish. I almost respect the kikes that figured out how to turn America into a totalitarian dictatorship without touching individualism and without even a dictator. Turns out there is no need to exploit humans if one can convince them to exploit themselves.

FRACTIONAL RESERVE BANKING.

Inflation.

Daaamn... This thread is quite disturbing.

WHY IS THE FED LYING?

>>301328
over half is just
>buy my fund goyim

>>305320
So what you're saying is that we need to buy more crypto.

>>305359
Gold/Silver could be worth the investment too, tbh, if you're looking for savings with more consistent value.

THE FEDERAL RESERVE FOR DUMMIES
>How the Federal Reserve Works and What that Coterie of Banksters Is Up To
>The Federal Reserve system conceals the immense transfer of value to financiers which has justified the intense subterfuge and chicanery necessary for the Fed’s creation. An existing structure for a bankruptcy transfer of national wealth to covert owners of the FRBOG, Inc., is suggested in this writing. World travelers have observed tactics used to dominate foreign nations by civil turmoil are being developed in the U.S.
https://genzconservative.com/the-federal-reserve-for-dummies/

Will ending the Fed ever be on the ballot? No? Then it's never going away.

>Going for gold: Russia to eliminate US dollar from sovereign wealth fund THIS MONTH amid warning of politics sabotaging currency
https://www.rt.com/russia/525569-dollar-wealth-fund-currency/
If foreign countries won't use dollars, then the end is near.

>>309773
Let it all End!

300% inflation in 2 years.

>>314121
It should be “as long as you use FED-backed notes”. This is jot about taxes. It’s about the money itself.

I kinda like the Fed though, they are the ultimate accelerationists.

>>321208
Shitty bait. Here is the (you)

>>227245
Honest question what's an accurate timeline we can expect for when the Fed doesn't exist anymore?

>>306672
even if it were on the ballot it still wouldn't matter, the only solution now is civil disobedience and coordination. Refuse to pay taxes, demand our voices be heard. The only option rapidly approaching is that pesky second amendment they hate so much.

>>266057
the Fed is everything, private central banks are behind everything. Literally we will never get our countries back until we end Central banking. WE can go on talking about joe biden, pizza gate, immigration, trannies...nothing will change until we end the Fed.

“If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency first by inflation then by deflation the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered... I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies... The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs.”

― Thomas Jefferson

>>323076
sorry buddy, moo moo, the white man doesn't act until its balls are actually unironically being crushed.

>>328109
>moo moo
nigger are you a furry

>>328125
No retard, we are cattle.

>Larry & Carstens' Excellent Pandemic
>The pandemic presented forensically for what it is, namely, a massive theatrical edifice intended to distract popular attention away from the fact that criminal bankers running the monetary system are making a concerted push toward full-on totalitarianism through monetary and financial control.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=VYOEvurCVuk
An excellent video explaining clearly how the Fed and monopoly capital used the pandemic as excuse to "reform" the monetary system Globally.
Also it is a forensic analysis of the criminal enterprise the banksters are deploying.

Leslie hates the Fed