/mlpol/ - My Little Politics

>>174842
the social democrats are in a fantastic position.

>>174842
just like the plethora of rw parties here: divided we fall...

>>174842
Will the Swedes just cuck themselves even more if there is a second election?

Eyy.. any info about this supposed rigging that happened?

>>174863
I haven't heard anything, so I assume that the OSCE election monitors have not released their report yet.

The Moderate Party (Moderaterna) have given up their attempt at creating a government. The task is now given back to Per Olof Andreas Norlén (Speaker of the Riksdag) that will have a meeting with all the other parties and discuss who should be next out to try to create a government.

http://archive.is/AfXDV (original Norwegian source)
http://archive.is/gg891 (machine translated page)

Stefan Löfven (Social Democrats) is going to try once again to create a government. I don't think he will have better luck this time.

Third largest
Nice

New elections in Sweden moves one step closer.

>After The Moderate Party (Moderaterna) failed to gather support for a collisional the task was given to Stefan Löfven by the Speaker of the Riksdag. Like The Moderate Party Stefan Löfven was given two weeks to try to create a viable government, and now he has failed.

>The Speaker of the Riksdag now has to hand the task to another party or issue new elections in Sweden.
http://archive.is/2UNOY (Original Norwegian)
http://archive.is/iZVRm (Machinetranslated)

Any predictions on the repeat election polls?

>>181796
I haven't seen any, and it could be that they haven't conducted any (strange as it might be), but I will look around a bit.

>>181796
Found this from September, it don't show what parties people will vote for, but it shows that the outcome of a new election probably will be about the same.

https://archive.is/MlkZU (Swedish text)
https://archive.is/L2BVy (Machinetranslated)

>>181809
Thank you.

well then, sweden will either have infinite re-elections or someone at some point will make a partnership with the SD

>>181811
Here is another stat showing the change in percentage since the election. But I am not sure what polls it is based on.
>Change in party sympathies
>Difference between election results 2018 and surveys today
https://val.digital/Chart/?type=PartyChangeFromElectionChart&counttoday=2018-10-29&election=2018

So there is no real development towards making a new government in Sweden.
The Centre Party has given up their attempts at creating a coalition to form a government on. The speaker of the riksdag has therefor decided that there will be a new vote in Parliament the 5th of December where they will vote on Stefan Löfven once again. This will make it the 2nd vote in parliament on who is going to become the prime minister. Once again Stefan Löven will need a majority vote to be able to create a government.
If no candidate gets a majority vote in parliament after four attempts they have to hold new elections. In other words if three more votes in parliament (including the on to be held the 5th Dec) fails the Swedish people will be asked to go to the voting booths once again to cast their votes in parliamentary election.

I may be wrong in saying this, but is this not a rather interesting parallel to Germany after the 2017 electioons?
Will it not be a similar scenario? i.e. The left will eventually form a weak/instable leadership.

>>188695
The problem I think the left have, and also the center/right is that neither fractions have a majority, and neither fractions want to form a government with the Swedish Democrats. The left is trying to say that the center/right have to stop thinking about political block and join them, but it is unacceptable for the left to join a center/right government. And the left will not give an inch to the right politically. The only mantra the left is trying to rule on is that they don't want the Swedish Democrats to have a political say.
Personally I think there is a good chance there will be held new elections. But if they manage to form a government it will not be long lived as the next hurdle after forming an government is to agree on a budget. And if a budget is not agreed upon the government will have to step down, and we will be back where we are now.

...Sweden; a lost cause.

A small update on the Swedish election.
There is still no function government in Sweden, and there was not held a vote on the 5th of December as planned.

There is some talk that the Liberals and Centre Party might agree to back Stefan Löfven (Social Democrats) as prime minister. But this is uncertain at best.
http://archive.is/v1bVk

The other options is that there will be a budget agreed upon by the Moderates and Christian Democrats (backed by Sweden Democrat) that Stefan Löfven (acting prime-minister without power) would have to "govern" by.
Or there could also end up with new elections held.
http://archive.is/f6i9F

Was just reading about where things stand, and this is what happened today.

The Centre party rejected Löfven and a centre-left government, followed by the Liberals calling off any possibility of support as well. The phrase of the day seems to be "we're disappointed that X didn't shoulder their responsibility in forming a government" in some form, with different names substituted for X.

It also looks like the Moderates/Christian Democrat budget proposal might pass on Wednesday, since the Centre and Liberal parties will abstain and SD will vote in favor.

I have to think that the establishment parties are still just playing chicken with each other at this point. They have to know that if things go so far that a reelection has to be held, then there's a pretty decent chance the Sweden Democrats will gain more seats, or that the Greens get kicked out, and they'll just be back to where they are now but worse off. In the meantime no one wants to be the first one to compromise on their politics and the rest of us will have to wait until they get desperate enough and someone blinks.

>>191674
>I have to think that the establishment parties are still just playing chicken with each other at this point. They have to know that if things go so far that a reelection has to be held
I agree they have veered, or dodged, away from their chicken game a few times by not holding a vote over who they want as prime minister. The moment four votes fails they have to, by law, hold new elections. But every time they have said they were going to vote they have stopped, saying they don't have majority, and played the ball over to the other side. I wish there was a way to force them to hold votes so that they wouldn't be able to drag this on forever.
I also wonder if the SD chooses not to support any budget, no budget will be agreed upon (need 50% +1) and I think that also will trigger new elections. But they might have dodged that by not having a government yet, so no government can step down for loosing a budget vote.

Can Sweden be saved?

>>192002
Sweden got a strong national movement, but they are surrounded by the brainwashed masses. So there is some hope, at least for parts of Sweden. Wall inn a few of the muslim enclaves and you will fix much of the problems. But the biggest hurdle Sweden faces it to get the majority to agree that the no-go zones needs to be walled in an closed.

One step closer to new elections in Sweden.

Today Stefan Löfven lost another vote to become prime minister with 200 votes against and 116 votes for (28 people abstained). This means that the parliament only have two more tries before it has to issue new elections. But new elections can come before this. The speaker of the riksdag will now do new rounds of talks with the different parties to see if any of them wants to try to form a government. If none of the parties wants to try to form a government, and instead chooses that new elections is the best way forward, then new elections will be held.

The forming of a govenrment in Sweden might be over on Monday, but there is signs it will still be some time before that happen. It is all up to the Left Party (Venstre) as Stefan Löfven need their support too. The big question is how long will Sweden be withouth a government before they issue new elections.

>Center leader Annie Lööf held a lightning call on Friday afternoon, where she began by confirming that a breakthrough in recent days has taken place in the talks between S, MP, C and L.
>Aftonbladet reported earlier on Friday that the Center Party, the Social Democrats, the Liberals and the Green Party reached an agreement on the government power.
>The agreement has been concluded after several days of intensive negotiations. It means that the Social Democrats and the Green Party form a government supported by the Center and the Liberals.
http://archive.is/E0fp4

>According to information provided to Aftonbladet, the party board sat for a several hours long telephone conference on Sunday evening.
>At 22 o'clock the decision had been made - but this is not revealed until tomorrow by the party leader Jonas Sjöstedt.
>The Left Party decides whether Stefan Löfven will be presented as Prime Minister. After C and L approved the deal during the weekend, V now has the whole power.
>They have to vote yes or cast their votes in order for Löfven to be elected in the Prime Minister's vote.
>However, the news agency TT stated on Sunday that it was leaning on a no from the Left Party and during the weekend spread a name collection in the party.

>Earlier on Sunday afternoon - before the party board had begun its telephone conference - Sjöstedt's press secretary Oscar Nelson left a written comment:
>"Now the other parties have left their message on the government issue. Now we will have our own internal process, and we will return when we have a comment to give ”.
>Earlier on Sunday, among others, the Left Party in Malmö and the Left Party in Falun went out with their position: Both want V to vote no to Löfven.
>"That the Left Party should release a government whose foundation is a promise that the Left Party should be kept outside influence is excluded. We must stand up for our policy and the voters who voted for it, ” writes V in Malmö in a statement
>According to TT, the decision leaned on a no, mainly for two reasons. Partly that there is a strong opposition in the party leadership to the politics of affairs in the agreement between S, MP, C and L. But also about the special wording that V should not have any influence over the political direction during the coming term. The clause is referred to as pure humiliation of the Left Party.
http://archive.is/zlJuC

Newest development is that the vote in parliament is postponed to Friday to "give the parties more time to discuss".
>one step closer to new elections I think

>>174842
>Social dem
>New Dem
>Sweden dem
>Centre party
>Lft party
>Liberals
>Green party
Holy shit , their entire gouvernemental structure belong to kikes.

Assuming christian Dem are not just a front by jew just to get the more concervative/traditional vote but still push the kike agenda.

scared

Some news today, the Left Party has announced they will abstain in the vote on Friday and we will likely get a red-green government passively supported by the Left, Centre and Liberal parties. The "no influence by the Left" clause has been struck and C+L are still on board.
The Moderate and Christian Democrat parties are critical against the deal, as well as of course the Sweden Dems.

One has to wonder what this means. In the short term, we get a government, but what will voters who wanted the Social Democrats out of power think? The optics for the supposedly "right alliance" members Centre and Liberal parties who are now supporting a left-wing government can't be good.
On the other side, the Sweden Democrats have been saying that they are the party who wants to stop the Social Democrats from getting power, and they get a "told you so" out of this deal; the Moderates and especially the Christian Democrats are looking more credible as the opposition to business as usual too.

Some opinion polling came out Thursday.

70% of voters say they trust politicians less after this debacle.
47% of voters think the deal between S+MP and the supporting V+C+L is a bad thing. (39% approve)
44% of voters think it'll come apart before the next elections.

The Social Democrats are gaining in polls done before the agreement, as are the Sweden Democrats (pic related).
Soc Dems are the winning team in this deal, perhaps this was what people expected and that is why they see gains, and the Swe Dems may be attracting voters opposed to them.
Every other party looks to have lost voter support. MP (Greens) and L (Liberals) are below the 4% cutoff and looks to be kicked out if an election was held today.

The vote will be held later today.

>>198967
>47% of voters think the deal between S+MP and the supporting V+C+L is a bad thing. (39% approve)
From the speeches it sounds like Stefan Löfen is going to become the Prime Minister. This is because the "supporting parties" will abstain from voting ensuring there won't be a majority against Löfen.

>Löfven will be approved as prime minister in a new cabinet together with the Green Pary if Centerpartiet, Liberalerna and Vänsterpartiet votes blank.

Stefan Löfen elected Prime Minister in Sweden because a majority didn't vote against him. Not because a majority voted for him.

>Yes 115
>No 153
>Abstain 77
>Not present 4

>>199023
Only in Sweden...

>>199023
>Yes 115
I think you meant to say
>YES! 115

What we have ended up with is basically a non-coalition of parties who have nothing in common except opposing nationalism, in which two of them wouldn't even pass the 4% cutoff to get seats in parliament in an election, and the center-right alliance has been broken. The Sweden Democrats are the largest opposition party and might well be so for the duration of this government, and an SD+Moderates+Christian Democrat coalition is increasingly looking like the only credible grouping that could serve as an alternative.

I believe we'll see a recession in 2019 or 2020, this is something that many people with different perspectives are saying; and it will happen when a fragile globo-homo coalition is in power, assuming it hasn't already broken up by then. This can't end any other way than with the Sweden Democrats in government by the next election, likely taking the prime minister post in a coalition.

>>199065
>This can't end any other way than with the Sweden Democrats in government by the next election, likely taking the prime minister post in a coalition.
This gives me great hope for the future of Sweden. I hope Löfen haven't been able to do too much more damage until then.
Gods speed Sweden, Gods speed.