Today we might get to know if there will be an new election in Germany.
SDP, the last option for Merkel to create a majority coalition, is going to vote today to decide if they want to join and form the coalition. If they say now the most likely outcome is new elections.
>Germany’s center-left Social Democrats (SPD) will decide on Sunday whether to start formal coalition talks with Chancellor Angela Merkel’s conservatives, a move which would bring Europe’s economic powerhouse one step closer to a stable government.
>SPD leader Martin Schulz is facing a strong backlash from the party’s left and youth wings, which argue that the SPD should reinvent itself in opposition after scoring its worst election result in September since Germany became a federal republic in 1949.
>A negative vote by the SPD would prolong political deadlock at a time when Germany’s humming economy is producing record budget surpluses and French President Emmanuel Macron is counting on Berlin to join forces and overhaul the European Union in the light of Britain’s decision to leave the bloc.
>Possible scenarios in case of a rejection by the SPD would include new elections or a minority government for what would be the first time in Germany’s post-war era.
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>>108578
I am not sure. I don't think SDP wants to go into a coalition. They said they would not go in an coalition right after the election. But after the other attempts by Merkel to form a majority government failed SDP decided to talk to her after all. I think it depend how deep down Merkel bowed to their demands that will be deciding. But SDP will also think that if they say no, and there is a new election, AfD will most likely get even more votes. And as it stand now at least Merkel is poised to loose many votes and become even smaller in a new election. So I am not sure. I think if it hadn't been for AfD, SDP would not have joined talks at all and forced Merkel to form a minority government.
I am not sure. I don't think SDP wants to go into a coalition. They said they would not go in an coalition right after the election. But after the other attempts by Merkel to form a majority government failed SDP decided to talk to her after all. I think it depend how deep down Merkel bowed to their demands that will be deciding. But SDP will also think that if they say no, and there is a new election, AfD will most likely get even more votes. And as it stand now at least Merkel is poised to loose many votes and become even smaller in a new election. So I am not sure. I think if it hadn't been for AfD, SDP would not have joined talks at all and forced Merkel to form a minority government.
>>108582
>full disclosure: hope I got all facts right, I haven't followed German politics too closely so there is probably many nuances I am missing. If I am saying something that needs
correcting I hope German poster will correct me
>full disclosure: hope I got all facts right, I haven't followed German politics too closely so there is probably many nuances I am missing. If I am saying something that needs
correcting I hope German poster will correct me
>>108578
From what I have gathered most of the SPD members and voters don't want to for multiple reasons.
It is just the members at the top that want to rule again.
Now 600 delegates of the SPD vote on this.
65% chance this will pass.
From what I have gathered most of the SPD members and voters don't want to for multiple reasons.
It is just the members at the top that want to rule again.
Now 600 delegates of the SPD vote on this.
65% chance this will pass.
Looks like SDP voted yes. But I misunderstood a little bit what the vote was for. It was just a vote for starting negotiating on a political platform with Merkel. There is many in SDP that wants a new vote when the negotiations are completed, so there is still a chance there will be new elections in Germany.
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>>108658
True it is probably like in Sweden they will do anything to prevent a party that is right of centre getting to power.
True it is probably like in Sweden they will do anything to prevent a party that is right of centre getting to power.
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>>108662
Schulz already said that they might skip the additional vote.
They discuss their posts and terms and go right back to ruining germany and europe for 4 more years.
Schulz already said that they might skip the additional vote.
They discuss their posts and terms and go right back to ruining germany and europe for 4 more years.
>>108665
It is a fucking shame they want to destroy Europe. But I think they are only moving the stage for a final solution closer for each day. Because in the end only a final solution can fix the problem the way it is going now.
It is a fucking shame they want to destroy Europe. But I think they are only moving the stage for a final solution closer for each day. Because in the end only a final solution can fix the problem the way it is going now.
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With growing number of migrants Germany I don’t think you can save your nation with a merely a election
>>108726
anons should still make efforts to win elections, there's no reason to pass up opportunities, but I agree that anyone in europe or canada should also be giving serious thought to an answer outside of political solutions if they really want to solve their problems at this point.
anons should still make efforts to win elections, there's no reason to pass up opportunities, but I agree that anyone in europe or canada should also be giving serious thought to an answer outside of political solutions if they really want to solve their problems at this point.
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>>108726
This is why they are importing more migrants. More lemmings, and migrants are very loyal to the system in power. All of that drowned in ideologies, television and mass consumption.
All according to the Kalergi plan, but this system is, and remains fragile. It's built on fucking nothing of value. Anyone who isn't one of them, is one of us.
Reject this system, learn to live without a smartphone or a TV, learn to live by yourself, enrich yourself with knowledge and practice.
Even if you're 10 against an army of 80 idiots, you have a chance to win.
all the idiots are armed? tell them they hold their gun the wrong way. 3/4 just committed suicide, you can now use the remaining guns to kill the remaining before they find out what just happened.
There's always a solution, we just need to be smart.
This is why they are importing more migrants. More lemmings, and migrants are very loyal to the system in power. All of that drowned in ideologies, television and mass consumption.
All according to the Kalergi plan, but this system is, and remains fragile. It's built on fucking nothing of value. Anyone who isn't one of them, is one of us.
Reject this system, learn to live without a smartphone or a TV, learn to live by yourself, enrich yourself with knowledge and practice.
Even if you're 10 against an army of 80 idiots, you have a chance to win.
all the idiots are armed? tell them they hold their gun the wrong way. 3/4 just committed suicide, you can now use the remaining guns to kill the remaining before they find out what just happened.
There's always a solution, we just need to be smart.
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>>108743
Yes. They do enjoy the social benefits and do nothing, use their status of "underprivilegied" and victims while the indigenous white population pay for them. The current system does everything to bring more immigration.
Yes. They do enjoy the social benefits and do nothing, use their status of "underprivilegied" and victims while the indigenous white population pay for them. The current system does everything to bring more immigration.
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>>108917
Literally this.
That's the objective goal of Islam as a concept. It's a universalizing, proslytizing religion: the world-domination plan isn't exactly a secret.
Literally this.
That's the objective goal of Islam as a concept. It's a universalizing, proslytizing religion: the world-domination plan isn't exactly a secret.
>>108743
Migrants are loyal to the system that imported them into a country nicer than the shithole country their ancestors built, while giving them free gibsmedats.
>>108921
Double literally this. Double Liter.
I will never understand how libtards can willfully ignore this. It's gone so far beyond the point where you can ignore this or pretend it doesn't affect you. The second a Muslim gets a nuke, and either straps it to his dynamite vest or threatens the world with it, we're done.
We as a species, culture, and race. No government on the planet is willing to nuke a country, even one controlled by Muslims willing to nuke an "Infidel country".
Migrants are loyal to the system that imported them into a country nicer than the shithole country their ancestors built, while giving them free gibsmedats.
>>108921
Double literally this. Double Liter.
I will never understand how libtards can willfully ignore this. It's gone so far beyond the point where you can ignore this or pretend it doesn't affect you. The second a Muslim gets a nuke, and either straps it to his dynamite vest or threatens the world with it, we're done.
We as a species, culture, and race. No government on the planet is willing to nuke a country, even one controlled by Muslims willing to nuke an "Infidel country".
>>109237
liberals employ this weird sort of tactical ignorance, my brother is a Bernie bro and I've tried to get him to simply read the Qur'ran for himself and he refuses because he seems to think knowing more about muslims would make him less accepting of them
liberals employ this weird sort of tactical ignorance, my brother is a Bernie bro and I've tried to get him to simply read the Qur'ran for himself and he refuses because he seems to think knowing more about muslims would make him less accepting of them
>>109439
>he refuses because he seems to think knowing more about muslims would make him less accepting of them
That's taking the blue pill if I've ever seen it.
I took it upon myself to learn more about Islam because I didn't want my distaste to be baseless: the more I learned, the less I liked it.
What kind of excuse did he give?
>he refuses because he seems to think knowing more about muslims would make him less accepting of them
That's taking the blue pill if I've ever seen it.
I took it upon myself to learn more about Islam because I didn't want my distaste to be baseless: the more I learned, the less I liked it.
What kind of excuse did he give?
>>109237
>Migrants are loyal to the system that imported them into a country nicer than the shithole country their ancestors built, while giving them free gibsmedats.
This.
It's modern day Tammany Hall: Democrats have been shipping-in their own new constituents for tens of decades.
>Migrants are loyal to the system that imported them into a country nicer than the shithole country their ancestors built, while giving them free gibsmedats.
This.
It's modern day Tammany Hall: Democrats have been shipping-in their own new constituents for tens of decades.
>>109442
he just met some muslim girl in college and apparently she was a nice person, therefor he feels he knows enough about the religion to say that the refugees are good people just looking for a better life etc. It's this weird positive prejudice that seems common on the left now where they assume based on skin color that people are good despite what those that actually have experience with them report where stories come out of europe about rape and terrorism, and out of deerborn michigan about female genital mutilation, and all the hate crime hoaxes and it's all just waved aside like "it can't possibly be that bad, they're just being discriminated against" he also said something similarly weird when our mother was complaining about H1B visa recipients because she was having trouble holding down a job in tech and he brought it up later saying something a long the lines of "see true information can make you racist too" which is just confusing, given that she didn't really complain about anything in regard to them being indian just about the effect they were having on employment in the field.
he just met some muslim girl in college and apparently she was a nice person, therefor he feels he knows enough about the religion to say that the refugees are good people just looking for a better life etc. It's this weird positive prejudice that seems common on the left now where they assume based on skin color that people are good despite what those that actually have experience with them report where stories come out of europe about rape and terrorism, and out of deerborn michigan about female genital mutilation, and all the hate crime hoaxes and it's all just waved aside like "it can't possibly be that bad, they're just being discriminated against" he also said something similarly weird when our mother was complaining about H1B visa recipients because she was having trouble holding down a job in tech and he brought it up later saying something a long the lines of "see true information can make you racist too" which is just confusing, given that she didn't really complain about anything in regard to them being indian just about the effect they were having on employment in the field.
>>109454
Jesus, that sounds painfully frustrating. And also really depressing. I can't imagine what that must be like, my family's just a bunch of blackpilled "Hurr durr nothing matters illuminati controls you just accept it, jews and liberals and conservatives are all scapegoats controlled by the illuminati so dont fight it" faggots.
You've got a new family here. You're not alone, and you're not the only one that can see through the liberal bullshit retards can't.
Jesus, that sounds painfully frustrating. And also really depressing. I can't imagine what that must be like, my family's just a bunch of blackpilled "Hurr durr nothing matters illuminati controls you just accept it, jews and liberals and conservatives are all scapegoats controlled by the illuminati so dont fight it" faggots.
You've got a new family here. You're not alone, and you're not the only one that can see through the liberal bullshit retards can't.
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