https://news.sky.com/story/pakistan-warns-kashmir-row-could-lead-to-all-out-war-with-india-13355033Following a mass shooting in Kashmir that left 26 tourists dead that India have blamed on Pakistan, relations between the two countries have broken down.
Indian Prime Minister Modi has vowed to purse those responsible to the ends of the Earth while Pakistan's defence minister warns the row could result in all out war between the two countries.
Both countries have nuclear weapons.
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>>389261In that case, the U.S might also get involved.
whatcha mean to say is... something is happening?
that's like third time this year already
>>389266If we're being realistic, this will probably end like the others. A few minor skirmishes and nothing major, even though the risks looked worse before.
The real problem is, this time it's between two way less stable countries, both packed with a fucking massive population!
>>389267it's true that when regarding russia, they couldn't go a full-blown war. wonder if it'd be different in this case
india has mostly western weapon imports
and pakistan would probably be supported by china(?)
if india started the conflict, they'd probably get cut off but pakistan could be more aggressive and still have chinese support
that's just my wild guess
>>389270India uses a lot of Russian stuff actually.
>>389270Right, just like I said earlier and you also pointed out, this time third parties don't have much control over the situation.
Maybe if Pakistan had started the conflict, things could be handled better, but right now it’s a real mess.
If the war escalates, there will probably be a massive refugee wave too.
Even though Iran is a neighbor for them, I doubt they would let them in , Especially given the current anti-immigration policies toward Afghans and Pakistanis, pushed mainly by the parliament.
That would just make the predictions above even more likely, with Europe taking the biggest hit from the incoming migrant flood.
>>389271>>389270And for that matter Pakistan has mostly Western plus Chinese weapons.
>>389271India mainly home built or Soviet/Russian
Pakistan mainly Western (America and Europe) plus China.
>>389274Pakistan might be more flexible with supplies, but India’s stronger thanks to its self-reliance.
In the end, it all depends on whether the big players step in or not...
>>387438>officially the aggressorsWhat’s official is made up nonsense by tyrants and criminal gangs naming themselves a state.
Instead lets be practical: why side with the muslim country?
>>387878>radiation from the bomb would decay to irrelevant levels over the course of a few decades.Shhhh cant say that; the USSR worked hard to subvert the population into believing nuclear war creates Fallout monsters to scare off the western powers dealing with it in the 50s.
>>389275>Pakistan might be more flexible with supplies, but India’s stronger thanks to its self-reliance.Stronger in the same way a goldfish is stronger than a minnow. Neither country is cut out for war and millions will perish alone due to stupid avoidable logistic incapacity. Everything from ambulance and fire response ot knowing where the fuck to go because India doesn't have street names, to friendly fire because they're all remorseless trigger-happy cowards.
>self-reliance.The ability to maintain the lowest conceivable quality of living with famine, disease, and crime at the world's highest is hardly self-reliant.
>>389279>why side with the muslim country?Nobody is siding with either. Muslims and Hindus are all a negative on Earth for their own reasons. The effects of either disappearing would be great, but at this fragment of time the Hindus vanishing would bring the quality of life up for everyone. No more scams, no more overloaded internet, no more hyper pollution... I fully stand with Pakistan in their efforts to bomb the shit off of Indian streets. When they're done, I fully stand with anyone who wants to glass Pakistan.
>>387926>Isn't the Pakistani government completely broke and non-functional, and basically on the verge of collapse?This is all nations, dysgenics has consequences.
>>389279>[india hackers at it again]the other one is a religious spaghethi also pakistan mainly is an ally of U.S.A (and israel apparently)
the best for the west is that to not get involved with it
this is their third time
two of the most populated countries are fighting eachothers again
their war only affects the global economy for us
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i could be wrong entirely...
>>389279>why side with the muslim country?Why should we even take a side?
On one side you’ve got Muslims and Muslim-wannabe terrorists, on the other side you’ve got cow-worshipers and more Muslims.
How exactly are we supposed to pick a side here?
When two animals start fighting, we don’t jump in and say "I support this one!" or "I support that one!". We just pull them apart.
Trying to back one side now is the dumbest thing we could do, it would only escalate the conflict and blow back in our faces.
>>389284islam dogs vs slum dogs
thsoe animals were fighting for a long time
the terrorist vs the hackers
india is full nationalist retards who think their language was the first thing in the worlds
the other one is a terrorist organization if it was a country
no side worth fighting for
>>389281>Hindus vanishing would bring the quality of life up for everyone. No more scams […]Pakis are all that but muslim too. Can’t see why they’re not the one to lose first.
>>389281>Neither country is cut out for war and millions will perish alone due to stupid avoidable logistic incapacity.Other than welfare being cut, i don’t see that happening much for india. Pakistans the one strongly reliant on indias control over the indus.
>>389284>We just pull them apart.If two deer in the wood are fighting, people don’t intervene. Your analogy doesn’t match up nor convince me that we should interfere with this skirmish.
>>389288"we" can't really do anything
it is our retarded govs are the one who decide wtf they want to do and that is the saddest part
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i am pretty they will try to calm them down ...
hopefully
>>389289it is hard to write on the fucking phone , i am watching the news rn
*that who will decide
**pretty sure
>>389288>If two deer in the wood are fighting...If only they were fighting deep in the woods!
The real problem is, this brawl is happening right in the middle of the farm.
If we don't step in fast enough, these two raging cows will wreck the fields and probably stampede the other animals too.
>>389275Given that a lot of supplies have been given to places like Ukraine and Western armies are currently trying to rearm and restock themselves and that Pakistan does not make their weapons domestically, they will likely struggle to find the supplies for most of their kit with the possible exception of the Chinese stuff.
In the beginning I expect Pakistan to have the advantage due to superior Western weapons however I think in a more protracted conflict India wins out due to being able to make their own supplies.
>>389292I think the same.
If the war gets worse and keeps going, Pakistan will probably end up using its last option__ nuclear weapons.
Then India will do it, too...
>>389293Maye but let's hope not. Especially with Pakistan threatening to kill everyone on the planet.
>>389291Still doesn't make sense. We don’t own the pakis or indians. I’m not dying for pakis/indians, sorry.
>>389293probably so
but they had war before and it did not got that far
how many war we had after covid?
Ukraine (EU) vs Russia
Israel vs Palestine
some wars between niggers in the africa [who cares?]
now India vs Pakistan
..
Now we have to wait for
iran vs israel
china vs taiwan
and america vs russia,china or both
we getting there guys
a world war 3 feels closer than ever
>>389297i have a theory
what if it is israel's plan to make the middle east chaotic , so they can start a full on war or missile war with iran...?
>>389295The logic is simple:
These two cows aren't just fighting in some random forest. They’re wrecking the farm, scaring the other animals, and spreading chaos to neighboring farms too.
As the chaos grows, the farmers (aka the other countries) will start blaming each other and eventually fighting among themselves.
If we don't stop these two nuclear-armed idiots now, the conflict will escalate, nukes will fly, and other nuclear powers will get dragged into it for all sorts of stupid reasons.
In the end, it won't matter if you're Indian, Pakistani, European, American, Iranian__ or anything else. Everyone's gonna get fucked.
Don't think it can't happen. Nobody thought ww2, which started with Germany and Poland, would end with nukes dropped on Japan.
Politics and wars are dumber and more unpredictable than you think.
>I’m not dying for pakis/indians, sorry.We’re not dying for these people. We're supposed to calm them down before they destroy the whole damn world.
>>389299no one is stupid enough to drop nukes.
>>389294Pakistan is a pretty desprate position economically. The regime doesn't have a lot of options left.
>what if it is israel's plan to make the middle east chaotic , so they can start a full on war or missile war with iran...?
Good conspiracy theory.
Some radicals in Iran say the same kind of stuff.
Kashmir could be a good target for Israel since it's mostly Muslim, but I don't think they started this.
Still, who knows, maybe you're right...
>no one is stupid enough to drop nukes.
If you ask me, no one is stupid enough to want this war to escalate.
But we are talking about when humanity become stupid...
>>389302You clearly never met a politician.
>>389304i did not heard any radical here saying anything
but thanks , sadly that is all we can do is to take a guess, no govs in any country are crystal clear about their intentions (grass is green)
>>389305>but we are talking about when humanity become stupid...history is a good proof of that
>i did not heard any radical here saying anything
In previous conflicts around here, like between Syria and Turkey, some radicals did say things like that.
But honestly, can’t completely dismiss their point either.
Now that you mention it, I’m also feeling a bit unsure about it myself.
Yeah... maybe you're right...
>>389306>>389305You are the fucking, saars. YOU ARE THE FUCKING!
>>389302Have you ever met a Muslim? Have you ever met a pajeet? They're egotistical psychopaths with no sense of self preservation. These savages blow themselves up for no good reason. These savages shit in the same water that they drink.
They are both more than stupid enough to drop nukes.
>>389305Pakistan is in an economic death spiral. They are dawned if they do and they are damned if they don't. The regime has very little to lose.
There should probably be a separate thread, now that the war is hot.
>>389321So it looks like this "series" is about to get pretty action-packed.
Even though this war isn’t good for us, well... it’s dark humor at this point.
Let’s sit back and watch the new season.
>>389322I think we should wait a bit and see what happens, then if the topic becomes more interesting, we can start a new thread.
>>389323oh my god it is 3D!!!
Damn!! it became 5D even!
Oooohhhh Shhhiiiiiittt!!!
[dead noises]
>>389327You know, if you're in the blast radius, death is less painful...
>>389320Somehow I have not yet had the displeasure of meeting a Muslim or a Pajeet (thank fucking god) but it's the leaders of these countries making the decisions, not random npcs with nothing to lose. Not even Falloutfags want to live in bunkers forever.
>>389333>Somehow I have not yet had the displeasure of meeting a Muslim or a PajeetYou are blessed anon.
These predator species are hell bent on ruling over the White Man.
Gentlemen, world war poo is upoon us.
>Three civilians were killed in indiscriminate firing and shelling by Pakistan military across the Line of Control and International Border in Jammu and Kashmir last night, defence sources said on Wednesday. The Indian Army is responding to the firing in a proportionate manner, they said.
>During the intervening night of May 6 and 7, Pakistan Army resorted to arbitrary firing, including artillery shelling, from posts across the LoC and IB opposite Jammu and Kashmir, the sources said. Three innocent civilians lost their lives in indiscriminate firing and shelling, they said.
Some exchange of ammo happened.
POOP WAR POOP WAR POOP WAR POOP WAR POOP WAR POOP WAR POOP WAR POOP WAR
>Iranian foreign minister expected in India amid mediation effort>On Monday, Araghchi urged the two countries to exercise restraint during a one-day visit to Pakistan, the first by a foreign dignitary since an April 22 terrorist attack in the disputed Himalayan region of Kashmir sent tensions soaring.https://www-nbcnews-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/live-blog/rcna205280?amp_gsa=1&_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQIUAKwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17466243886115&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nbcnews.com%2Fworld%2Fasia%2Flive-blog%2Findia-pakistan-live-updates-pakistan-vows-retaliation-india-strikes-ka-rcna205280>Foreign Ministry Spokesman Esmail Baghaei voiced serious concern over the intensifying conflict between India and Pakistan, urging both nations to exercise restraint.>The spokesman also warned against possible exploitation of the crisis by third parties, particularly the Israeli regime.https://en-mehrnews-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/en.mehrnews.com/amp/231549/?amp_gsa=1&_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQIUAKwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17466240391394&csi=1&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https%3A%2F%2Fen.mehrnews.com%2Fnews%2F231549%2FIran-urges-restraint-as-tensions-rise-between-India-PakistanIran is attempting to mediate between India and Pakistan, but the odds are slim.
The current conflict serves Israel's agenda of chaos in South Asia and Middle East, and unless drastic restraint is shown, a much larger war could erupt.
If mediation fails, we should expect a dangerous spiral: external powers, Iran, Russia, China, and even the U.S, may be dragged in, not out of goodwill, but out of fear of losing influence.
The region stands on the brink of another manufactured disaster.
C'mon mudskins, show us what you're capable of.
Drop. The. Bomb.
>>387583Interesting...
They used to say that doing all this made their bodies "stronger" and "more resistant" to disease.
And then what happened?
The aids hotspot of Asia, over half a million *official* covid deaths, and let’s not forget, they gave us the Delta variant too.
Yeah... really "resistant", huh?
>Uh, Sir, another nuke has dropped on Delhi
To recap: They're essentially fighting over water use rights. Both countries NEED this water use because their populations (or at least India's population) keeps increasing massively.
Both countries are nuclear armed.
I assume the nukes are maintained in reliable working order because I know little about military technology.
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If this does turn into a hot WW3, what would that even look like, aside from many international countries throwing bombs and nukes at leach other?
>>389373if it escalates beyond a few skirmishes and bombings into full blown war, I doubt they wouldn't be alone
at largest, it would be limited in asia
>>389373My hypothesis is:
Most densely populated and strategic areas will likely be directly wiped out by nuclear detonations.
The less strategic or civilian regions will probably collapse gradually due to economic downfall, famine, and widespread instability.
If theories like Russia’s Dead Hand (also known as the perimeter system, an automated nuclear retaliation system that can launch missiles even if the human chain of command is destroyed) are true for other countries as well, we are likely facing a massive demographic and civilizational collapse.
In my opinion, unlike the "Fallout-style" post-apocalyptic fantasies some people imagine, what will actually happen is more like a forced human restart: a long dark period, followed by the slow reformation of new societies and civilizations.
Of course, as you said, all of this only if the nuclear war actually escalates.
>>389373Almost certainly China will attempt to turn the situation to their advantage, likely supporting one side or the other materially. Myanmar could attempt a territory grab if they're feeling froggy. Pakistan is probably already seeing an influx of would-be jihadists who want to fight for the glory of Allah or whatever.
>>389373>If this does turn into a hot WW3It wouldn't be considered WW3 because they're neighboring countries in the same continent and no other nation will bother getting involved. It's literal shit flinging with some of the shit having nuclear payload mixed it.
>>389375>a forced human restart: a long dark period, followed by the slow reformation of new societies and civilizationsSo pretty much like fallout but less silly.
>>389373Nobody is gonna jumpstart WWIII over shitskin nations fighting each other. We can only hope it escalates enough that they kill off a sizeable amount of each others population.
>>389373Don't worry bud, it's just a poop war.
Although, rapefugees might end up being a problem. But hopefully the mutual ethnic hatred will make them stay in pootopia to kill each other.
Reports out of Pakistan claim that they have captured Indian fighter pilot Samabashiv Hidam. The picture below was provided by his family in Mumbai.
>>389409He can't keep redeeming it!
>India's plan was to to do a couple strike using the Rafale and call it a victory.
>But they got shat on losing multiple jets and their 300 million dollar rafale got BTFO by a 70 million j10c
>So now they feel the need to retaliate with yesterday drone strike
>Pakistan retaliate back with their own strikes now
So Indian incompetence essentially meant they pushed themselves into a corner and they must do something in order to claim a "victory"
>>389612What a time to be alive to see Gandhi finally do an real life integer overflow.
Never trust Islam. Fucking lmao. Already violated the "ceasefire"
https://x.com/disclosetv/status/1921230498111598896 [Embed]>>389688Wow gawrsh, its almost like a movement that conflates its self with being divinely inspired/validated will feel that whatever they do has merit
>>389909Oh yeah, true! that's why the internet actually feels a little cleaner these days...
>>389909>>389910If I hear an indian voice I usually just say "Dalit." over and over again.
>>389909This was /pol/ for one day after Oct 7th
>>389909Every time those pajeets call me, I tell them the same, first I demand to know from where they are calling from and they try to deflect by repeating the name of the company instead of the country. Then I accuse them of not being White and how they dare to call me; at this stage they hang up on me.
>Chinese Troll Indian Rafale Jets.
It looks like made in China Pakistani jet fighters, wholesomely defeated made in France Indian Rafale jets.
>>389925This is next level shitposting. Kudos to the Chinks.
>>389926I'd imagine it was the pilots more than anything else, Chinese "advisors" were flying the J-10C's but the Indians actually put their own pilots in the Rafales.
>>389941Pajeet incompetence is legendary.
>>389925I think they should blame the indian pilot.
>>389948Modern air combat is a lot more than the pilot's skills because missiles are launched beyond the horizon and it is mostly about who has the better tech to detect and launch first.
>>389956>>389956The skills and diligence of the mechanics comes into play a lot. These fancy high tech weapons require maintenance every week even if they're collecting dust in a hangar. They require a lot more maintenance for every hour of flight time.
>>389956We'll see how it plays out if Pakistan decides to attack with aircraft, because as per appearances, they have superior pilots and superior airframes.
>>390026>We'll see how it plays out if Pakistan decides to attack with aircraftIt may, but things might go south very fast.
>>390047having thought about this I doubt that'd be the case, those 4 units cannot be everywhere, and are likely on missile defense duty for interior targets.
>>390219>>390246strike that, it looks like S-400s are doing duty on the border.
These shitskins have a lot of hardware.
>>390346well it is a good opportunity now for both China and US to test their advanced warfare...
also i am not jealous...wait who said anything about jealous?!
guess the both memes >>390354I like bloody bastards, but I think they are done within next 3-5 years. This is just blocker-country like Ukraine and it is perfect opportunity to finish them when west are weak. Actually main threat for Pakistan is not India, but Russia, because of Ferghana Valley. Too overpopulated region, full of problems with water and fuel, just like Syria in early 2000. Russia has two choices, encourage our neighboring goat-fuckers to help saars, or suffer another front near Kazakhstan. India, obviously, can't attack Pakistan directly via ground forces, but Russia and India have common interest to burn bloody bastards to the ground by using another bloody bastards. In addition, we quite bumpy about possibility of gas pipelines between Iran and China.
Quite funny situation. BRICS…