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Anonymous
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No.385932
Mentelegen. Alot has happened. But quick to the point I'm here to broach the subject of the Mlpol 4cc team. Champions of 4/7 /pol/eagues, it's clear who's house that is. But is that what the Fuhrer would want? Nay nay.
So. I want to hear about every goddamn 4chan cup or who thefuckever invitational, tournament, and degenerate excuse to sit around a monitor and fap watch divegrass!
No, but seriously, Mlpol qualifies for the friendlies and a whole bunch more, and we're gonna play this time! e\_/e
Anonymous
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No.385941
YAY go /mlpol/!!!
Ninjaz
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No.385979
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As of now, the /pol/eague doesn't know. It was listed to start this weekend, to their surprise This affords a number of opportunities, should any degree of changes or modifications to the team be desired by the board. Again, 4/7 cups says don't fuck with it cuz it's working, but there's the option to embrace more pressing memes; Honk Ponk makes sense, Bat Soup was timely, and Tarrant Chan is a qt, all of which are suitable to stay if there's nothing suitable to replace them. We don't know how long until the next /pol/eague (and by the way, there are rustled jimmies because we keep winning) so if there are to be changes, lets start now because I'm a fucking knob at all of this. Oh, hi, I'm the new Mlpol 4cc team manager btw.
Anonymous
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No.385982
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>>385979
Where can we see what the team looks like?
Anonymous
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No.385984
>>385979
Have you contacted the /pol/ managers when the next /pol/eague will start? /pol/eague 8 was planned for last year but didn’t happened
Anonymous
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No.385997
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>>385979
>I'm the new Mlpol 4cc team manager btw.
Nice to meet you! did ryperiour step down thoughalbeit?
>if there's nothing suitable to replace them
I think a mention to the chan's demise would be timely, if there's any way to do that. A mention to the horsefucker refugees at the next tournament at the bare least
Also who is even in charge of the /pol/eague? fap? canes? juan? verdammt I don't remember jackshit after shlomo left
Anonymous
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No.386006
>>385997
Right now I believe who runs the /pol/eague is horsbussy and Gary, the two current /pol/ managers
Ninjaz
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No.386031
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>>385982
Apologies, I took a nap
The current team wiki page is here: https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//mlpol/
>>385997
Yes. Which is to say, Ryperior wasn't intended to be the manager, he just did to make sure things went smoothly. This isn't disparaging of him either.
Anonymous
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No.386042
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>>386031
Thanks. One thing on the team comp, I think you should switch out 1 CB and 1 DMF on the bench for a CF and an SS so you have the option of resting those positions in the match (or being able to have more of those on the field as an option if the situation requires it).

That's just my opinion though. Others can weigh in on what they think.
Anonymous
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No.386048
386051
>>386042
Another option could be a pair of wingers (LWF and RWF) instead of the extra CF and SS.
Anonymous
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No.386051
386052
>>386048
Could also trim down the LB and RB subs to 1 each to get the extra space as well.
Anonymous
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No.386052
386053
>>386051
So

GK
LB
CB
CB
RB
DMF
CMF
CMF
LWF
RWF
CF
SS

Named whatever people want.
Anonymous
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No.386053
>>386052
For the bench that is, not the starting team.
Anonymous
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No.386054
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>>386042
Well, my thoughts are that 1. The team keeps winning, enough that anons are angry about it. This says to change as little as possible. 2. The only real opponent in the 4cc or /pol/eague in our specific case, is PES. It's not about beating the other team, it's about beating RNJesus. Any player can be put in any position as the memes demand, because you never can count on conditions AND sometimes you simply shouldn't listen to conditions. Like >rape, during the 3rd place match of the 4cccl
Anonymous
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No.386055
386056
>>386054
I'm not changing the team per se, more just what is there to support it in the back. If the striker, say, gets injured or sent off there's nobody to replace them or indeed anybody up front.
Anonymous
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No.386056
386057
>>386055
Also can't really think of a situation where you will ever need 3 LBs and RBs and those are slots you could use for other things.
Anonymous
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No.386057
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>>386056
Again, it comes down to conditions. You can basically assume that one of both positions is going to be shit, and without being a medal, those positions could otherwise be a liability, especially if having to employ the gegenpresse
Anonymous
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No.386058
386061
>>386057
Not saying it 100% must be this, just putting it out there. People can do whatever with it.
Anonymous
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>>386058
I might be mistaken, but my impression is that teams can call for effectively ANY changes during the match, so long as it's not so egregious that the streamer simply doesn't want to do it. I'm saying it's a good idea, but not necessary to implement unless circumstances call for it, as the current setup is largely optimized to account for as I said the biggest adversary, being the game it's self.
Anonymous
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No.386062
386129
>>386061
>the current setup is largely optimized to account for as I said the biggest adversary, being the game it's self.
Heh. Fair enough. Still, the extra players (LB, RB, CB, DMF for 4 slots total) are there to be swapped for whatever else possibly.
Ryperiour2
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No.386129
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>>385997
Im techincally still there just more of an advisory position (caretaker). I'm putting more of my attention on /auspol/

>>385979
Dont get a big head, just because we won under previous management does not mean it will automatically win the next cup. PES is a game of spook and it is self aware.

>>386062
You only really need subs for the non medal players
and even then what you are going to be subbing at ~65 depends on stamina useage (for pes 17 its usually the backline)
Injuries don't really matter because their back on in less than 10 in game mins and Realy ded is quite rare

Sorry to you guys if it seems I dont visit this place much, but I do. I'm more of a lurker
Anonymous
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No.386130
386159
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>/mlp/ is the first team to win 3 stars
>shortly thereafter, 4chan dies
Anonymous
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No.386158
386159
>>386129
So what actually is the use case for 3 Left Backs? You can't put 3 of them on at once and 2 extra is enough to cover both a sub and an injury (which could also be partially covered by just putting the subbed player back on in the unlikely event that you have both subbed and had that sub then get killed) which as you just said don't seem to matter most of the time.
Anonymous
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No.386159
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>>386129
Relax, I had a big head LONG before this. This isn't about self-aggrandizement, it's about BOARD-aggrandizement
>>386130
Oh my, somepony put 2 and 2 together!
>>386158
The use is that one of them will have shit conditions and be benched, while you run out the other two over the course of the match, depending on THEIR conditions
Anonymous
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No.386161
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>>386159
So over 90 minutes you somehow manage to deplete the stamina of 3 players in the same position? I guess but still seems excessive. Especially when this is at the cost of having basically no subs for anybody else.
Anonymous
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No.386163
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>>386161
or 2 players I should say, to be again replaced by a third.
Anonymous
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>>386161
>>386163
No, you run out one player for a large portion of the match, then go Gegen +2, and then you run out the other player while the shit player sits on the bench and thinks about their life choices.
This isn't sportsball anon, it's MEMEball
Anonymous
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No.386165
386166 386167
>>386164
Oh so that's 2 people. Why are there 3?
Anonymous
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No.386166
386167
>>386165
ok so*
Anonymous
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No.386167
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>>386165
>>386166
#3 is the one with the red arrow pointing down next to their name
Anonymous
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No.386168
386169
>>386167
Why is this red arrow not a sub for something else?
Anonymous
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>>386168
Because the red downward arrow is bad. Unless it's >rape, then who knows what's going to happen.
Seriously though, you display a competence in Football, but you seem to know nothing of PES and RNJesus
Anonymous
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>>386169
Right, but why are there not (bad) subs for players that have no subs at all?
Anonymous
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>>386170
Thats where/when you make substitutions and position changes
Anonymous
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386174
>>386171
Which you needs subs on the bench to do. Hence why I am suggesting adding subs for an SS and CF at minimum, even if they are shit, it's better than literally nothing.
Anonymous
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For all the planning and testing, PES is like Texas hold-em, where what cards are on the table decides MOST EVERYTHING, at which point it is on the player to play the hand to their ability.
>>386173
To which I reemphasize that any player can be swapped, moved, and reconfigured as needed. These aren't actual people with proclivities and preferrences, it's a video game
Anonymous
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No.386177
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>>386174
Even to the point that you could for example just zap a goalkeeper with the Hax and he's now magically according to the game no longer a goalkeeper but actually a striker (with the game acting properly as if this is the case)?
Anonymous
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>>386177
No, the medal system is well established. If you look at the roster you can see who the gold and silver players are
Anonymous
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No.386179
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>>386178
Ok so you therefore need those subs to be the right positions.
Anonymous
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>>386177
But to this point, if it seems like a good idea (a very limited case-set) yes, I would put Aryanne as the keeper
Anonymous
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No.386182
>>386179
*sigh* You seem to be operating under the illusion that any player CAN'T be put in place of another. I don't know where this misconception comes from.
Anonymous
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No.386183
Somehow I think you would be unable to grasp the 9 niggers forward formation
Anonymous
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No.386184
386185
>>386181
As it is a videogame player positions and how they act in the game are hard coded things so if you want the game's AI to work correctly you need players that are actually meant to be in those positions according to its code.
Anonymous
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>>386184
>trying to cater to PES
XDDDDD
ADORABLE!
Anonymous
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>>386185
We playing the game or not?
Anonymous
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No.386188
386190
It took upwards of 5 seconds to load mlpol today.....was freaked out there, worried it got the 4ch fate :(
Anonymous
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No.386189
386191
>>386186
While not sure of what you mean, I'd say it's more accurate to say that PES plays us
Anonymous
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No.386190
>>386188
The site hasn't experienced loads like this before, take heart. Dozens of people will lose their shit if the site goes down
Anonymous
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No.386191
>>386189
PES is a videogame, and as it is a videogame it follows hard coded rules. Those rules include the game's conception of what position a player is supposed to be playing on the field, how they act, what sort of stats they have, and so on. Thus if you were to put a goalkeeper in the striker position, they would probably suck balls at it compared to a lower rated but actually supposed to be there sub.
Anonymous
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No.386578
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If you are going to be making new subs I vote for making Derpy Hooves a low rated striker.
Anonymous
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No.386586
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>>386578
Are you even looking at the roster? Derpy isn't even a player, and in order to make her a player we would need express permission from /mlp/ because she's their GoalKeeper so fat chance of that.
>PES is a simulation
Have you even watched the 4chan cup? Honestly? I appreciate that you're trying to be all serious about this, but I have to emphasize that this is not a sports game, it's a meme game
Anonymous
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No.386591
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>>386586
I know she isn't, but neither is there a substitute striker. I was thinking if you were going to make some new subs you could have one be that because it would be funny.
Anonymous
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No.386593
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>>386586
Also with regards actual mlp characters they can't really get too bitchy about another mlp board using one that was actually in the show.
Anonymous
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No.386600
386605
>>386586
Also if she's their goalie, her being a comically unreliable striker for us would make sense and is also funny.
Anonymous
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No.386605
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>>386600
Okay, I'll grant you this point, it would be.
>>386593
lol you do realize half of /mlp/ hates us cuz we're nazis right? You do realize the over-representation of autism on /mlp/ right?
>>386591
And this is why when shit goes down the correct answer is to meme
Anonymous
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No.386608
386609
I got no clue what the discussion is about and I don't care, anyways.wav
I gave winter 2020 finals a rewatch last night and god fucking dammit what a riot it was, the bitching from sita, the horsefuckers all cheering for /pol/, the management having no final boss ready and shlomo just deciding to throw /mlpol/ in there last minute, the /mlp/ 4cc thread blessing his heart and his retirement and shitting on their own managers, the all around /mlpol/ shilling from boris and the commentators
Damn I miss the 4cc, I haven't laughed that much alone in so long
Gonna watch winter 2024 tonight to catch up, shit really fired me up
Anonymous
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No.386609
386620 386643
>>386608
Where can you watch the old cups?
Anonymous
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No.386613
386620 386622
>>386605
If they hate us why worry so much about what they'll think? They hate you anyway.
Anonymous
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No.386620
>>386609
Alot of previous 4cc are on Youtube, but I'm sure there's a database somewhere in or around the 4cc wiki. You can watch the '24 glorious day of 3 stars with the replay generator here >>>/mlpol/381455 →
>>386613
It's not about trying to make /mlp/ happy, it's about showing respect to the /mlp/ management and having good relations. Several of them effectively glided the team to victory with little-to-no assistance from us, it would be a dick move to put them in a position of having to explain to their fanbase - cuz board isn't an option - why we're stealing oneof their most prized players
Anonymous
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No.386622
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>>386613
On implyingrigged duh, if there's a tournament then most likely f4r put it on the wiki and there's a cytube link of sorts to watch, for elites and babbies it's a given, just go to an edition and there'll be a link next to the match to watch it
>>386613
First off that even if you wanted to be a dick about it, there's no need to shit over noteperson when he's an organizer of the cup
Secondly, that's not how the band rolls, we comfy in here, the times of sita are long gone (I'm making shit up, I haven't watched in 5 years lmao, but take my word for it)
You don't put derpy on /mlpol/ because /mlp/ has her and there's nothing /pol/ish about her, you put moonmare on /mlpol/ because it's in character, try and think of it more as a macroscale circlejerk of sorts and you'll get the right vibe off it
Lurk moar though, watch thel eague (tm) and thec up (tm)
Anonymous
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No.386623
>>386622
Yes, Sita is gone. You think SITA got the 3rd star? Lol
Anonymous
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No.386625
>>386622
No offense to Nigel - cuz remember, Nigel was originally what we called ALL english posters, until NIGEL made himself distinguished, but he's gone so we're TAKING IT BACK BABY - but I don't think he knows who Noteperson - or Titan - are. He is quite enthusiastic, and knowledgeable about kickyball, but yes, need to lurk more.
Ninjaz
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No.386635
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And just to put a neat little bow on any further discussion of hijacking derpy or any of /mlp/'s roster. Not only would it be blatantly disrespectful to the degree of dishonor TO many people, but it would be SUCH a shameful display in front of the 4chan cup community that we could be rightfully uninvited from a variety of cup events going forward that - outside of a mandate from the site to not participate in - we WILL be playing in.
This is not a negotiation on that.
Anonymous
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No.386638
386641
>>386635
So who else are we having then?
Anonymous
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No.386641
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>>386638
At present there doesn't appear a glaring demand for changes to the roster at all, and if there were the first question should be who is getting sent to the glue factory.
Anonymous
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No.386642
>>386641
Why did you make the thread if you are unwilling to consider changes?
Anonymous
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No.386643
386646 386650
Ninjaz, there is a lot of stuff you have absolutely zero clue about as far as PES or the 4chan cup and its associated invitationals.
I would start with reading this.
>https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/New_Manager_Advice
Second, I'd highly advise you look into how a 4cc "autopilot" plays. Please calm down before managing, I recommend you not believe the memes regarding tactical changes and testing saying they don't matter. PES is RNG, but actions you take can drastically alter that, especially outside of and including the meme choices like "gegen +2".

Regarding players, you don't need any kind of "express permission" to utilize players as long as the player is relevant to your team in some way or another, and in fact with some invitational teams, some players are repeated on multiple teams or are there because the manager wanted it. Both /pol/ and /biz/ have Bogdanoff players on their teams, for a 4chan cup example, although they use different names. In the Friendship Association Games Invitational that /mlp/ runs, Rainbow Dash has her own team and is also a player on half the other teams; I believe she's represented on 8 different teams.
Invitational in the context of the 4chan Cup means Informal, which means outside of the 4chan cup proper. If Derpy is actually relevant to /mlpol/ as a meme - let's say someone avatarfagging as Derpy goes and hacks the soyjakker site, and this becomes a staple of spamming derpy on the soyjak site - then there is no obstacle and no one CAN or WILL stop you from using her. /mlpol/ is an Invitational team, which means, again, informality.
Invitational tournaments and teams are not bound by any rules that govern the 4chan cup aside from the one regarding reserving time slots, and are ruled by the organizer who can dictate whatever he wants. Getting your team to play, in many cases, means either being contextually aligned - for example, /e-s/, an electroswing music team, would fit in a /mu/ tournament, but would not fit in a /k/ organized tournament - or relies on having built a rapport with the organizer, or having signed up for a limited number of entry slots as would be the case with, say, /ag/ League, which is a nearly no-holds-barred entry invitational.
/mlpol/ as a team is an invitational team, which, again, means informality. If an invitational tournament organizer doesn't want ponies in his tournament, he can simply say no to ponies.
Sometimes "official" 4chan cup teams can play in unofficial invitational tournaments. But unofficial invitational teams - /mlpol/ - cannot play in "official" 4chan cup matches, which are reserved for 4chan board teams.

Try to lurk in the 4chan cup a bit more, or rewatch the old matches.

>>386609
>https://implying.fun/
Most old matches are here.
Anonymous
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No.386646
386649
>>386643
>Implying
Speaking of the wiki, it would be super if the captcha for the account registry worked so I could get started on the wiki pages
Anonymous
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No.386649
386655
>>386646
>he ignored the lurking component
>again
Please do not just jump into wiki editing.
Anonymous
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No.386650
>>386643
Thanks.
Anonymous
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No.386655
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>>386649
For starters, I used to be an editor for the wiki years ago; I don't know who fucked with the early history section, but that's not what it USED to say. For two, I'm OP of this thread. For 3, I've been watching the 4chan cup since Summer '17; if you aren't shitposting in chat, you're doing it wrong.
As far as cross utilization of players, sure it's technically permissible, but just 'doing it' without at least some sort of dialogue with /mlp/ management is rude. Then there's the fact that there's a whole lot about the team that's out of date, needing some sort of revision - again the wiki - before we start annexing players.
Of course testing and all that is important, but we have 4 stars, the testing has been done and on that we can stand on the shoulders of giants.
>official
>4chan
Where is this 4chan of which you speak? If you want to get technical, WE should be looking at running our OWN invitational, but let's not get ahead of ourselves.
Anonymous
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No.386659
386668
>>386655
Then talk to their management.
Anonymous
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No.386668
386671
>>386659
Nigel, if I DO it will be because the BOARD expresses interest, not one insistent bong
Anonymous
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No.386671
386685
>>386668
If you are going to reuse names you should make Zigger a CF.
Anonymous
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No.386685
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>>386671
Its worth experimenting on and testing. I still haven't gotten PES working properly yet, to where I can do 4cc teams let alone Mlpol, but I have every intention to start first by experimenting with player substitution versus position change. Thats part of why I'm not in a hurry to change much especially right away, as if these ideas should be implemented it will be after testing to vet their efficacy
Anonymous
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No.386687
386768
>>386685
Oh sure by all means experiment. I was just suggesting changes, not necessarily a hard outline of what the team *must* be. As I brought up yesterday I think, in the subs there are 4 slots that could potentially be something else - LB, RB, CB, DMF with the first 2 being the first you should consider swapping, the CB and DMF aren't terrible but are also potential changes for something else. You can work from there. Just remember that position is important and players suck donkey balls when you try to place them in other positions (the further away from their normal position, the more they suck generally).
Anonymous
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No.386768
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>>386687
The number of tests I expect to run will require an excel spreadsheet to tabulate and try to draw actionable statistics from. This isn't going to be a simple process
Anonymous
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No.386776
>>386768
Keep us updated.
Anonymous
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No.388175
388182
One wonders if Nigel will have stuck around.
Now that the smoke has cleared, who ACTUALLY feels strongly about the Mlpol 4cc team?
Anonymous
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No.388182
388184
>>388175
Yes I am reading this.
Anonymous
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No.388184
>>388182
Excellent!
So, I'm gonna be perfectly honest with you and everyone. My only qualifications for manager are that I'm an insufferable asshole who has zero qualms with telling anyone and everyone what's-what. I almost got myself kicked (maybe did?) from the 4chan cup discord for roasting them for being unwilling to mention Mlpol as a bunker during the recent Babby cup qualifiers.
If changes are desired for the team, let's make them.

Fireaxe's OC had a split from the site some years ago. Fireaxe AS an OC belongs (sorry, fag) to Mlpol. Personally, I'd like to see a Horsepussy GK, but I don't wanna change anything without approval from the board. If it ain't broke, don't fuck with it.
Anonymous
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No.388190
Further to the point of potentially retire-able players, I'd suggest Bat Soup, Honk Ponk, and Tarrant Chan. No disrespect to any, they all were and are very significant memes for their time, but of the roster I would have trouble suggesting anypone else, as the rest are more or less legacy players

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