https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c20x5xn1g92o
US Secretary of State Marco Rubio has warned that the United States will abandon trying to broker a Russia-Ukraine peace deal unless clear signs that a truce can be reached appear soon.
"We're not going to continue with this endeavour for weeks and months on end," Rubio said, adding that the US had "other priorities to focus on".
Russia are now over 3 years into their 3 day special military operation with still no end in sight.
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>>385630
I wonder if you're one of the cuckeanians who fled to USA and who is certain USA should fight your war for you while you're relaxing on a beach.
I wonder if you're one of the cuckeanians who fled to USA and who is certain USA should fight your war for you while you're relaxing on a beach.
>>385697
>I wonder if you're one of the cuckeanians who fled to USA
Let's face it, most of these refugees used the underground railroad set by the jewry to flee the country. They did it before in soviet times and after WW2, now a new wave of parasites is settling among us.
>I wonder if you're one of the cuckeanians who fled to USA
Let's face it, most of these refugees used the underground railroad set by the jewry to flee the country. They did it before in soviet times and after WW2, now a new wave of parasites is settling among us.
>>384693
why would they do that? War in shitholes is the most convoluted money laundering scheme in history
why would they do that? War in shitholes is the most convoluted money laundering scheme in history
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To all Ukrainians who can see this, never forget you were a gullible tool, used and now forgotten. A throw away pawn in the game of large powers. Your sacrifice meant nothing, 1 mil dead men for what?
- 25% territory lost
- No NATO
- The fucking EU won’t even admit you
- 25% territory lost
- No NATO
- The fucking EU won’t even admit you
>Finland
1) Join NATO for the singular purpose of stretching Russian military resources by forcing them to build military infrastructure on a new front
2) Russia builds military infrastructure on that new front
3) Cry about Russia building military infrastructure on the new front
1) Join NATO for the singular purpose of stretching Russian military resources by forcing them to build military infrastructure on a new front
2) Russia builds military infrastructure on that new front
3) Cry about Russia building military infrastructure on the new front
British Mercenary, Christopher Garrett has been confirmed eliminated by a Russian mine.
Unilateral NATO proposal for a ceasefire that will involve Russia retreating, a NATO boots on the ground contingent, and a NATO controlled non-fly zone. Just because they say so.
The ruskies are obviously bewildered for this display of the west leadership consuming hallucinogens. Like they live in La La Land, for real.
https://x.com/M_Simonyan/status/1922318566067458469
The ruskies are obviously bewildered for this display of the west leadership consuming hallucinogens. Like they live in La La Land, for real.
https://x.com/M_Simonyan/status/1922318566067458469
BREAKING NEWS: HUNGARY MOVING TROOPS, TANKS-ARTILLERY TO UKRAINE BORDER
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news-selections/world-news/breaking-news-hungary-moving-troops-tanks-artillery-to-ukraine-border
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news-selections/world-news/breaking-news-hungary-moving-troops-tanks-artillery-to-ukraine-border
>>390100
>ceasefire
Reportedly, the Russian delegation said that the Ukrainians need to withdraw from the four new annexed regions if they want a ceasefire. Ukrainian delegation said no. The Russian side stood up, said “Next time, it’ll be five”, and left the room.
>ceasefire
Reportedly, the Russian delegation said that the Ukrainians need to withdraw from the four new annexed regions if they want a ceasefire. Ukrainian delegation said no. The Russian side stood up, said “Next time, it’ll be five”, and left the room.
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Why This Russian Drone Developer Isn’t Impressed by U.S. Tech
>In this exclusive interview, I sit down with a Russian military drone developer inside his secret workshop to talk about the future of drone warfare. From FPV kamikaze drones and fiber-optic guidance systems to jamming tactics and the rise of interceptor drones — we cover it all. We also discuss how Russia and Ukraine have become the world’s most advanced drone war laboratories, what makes Chinese tech fall short, and why the West is struggling to catch up.
[YouTube] Why This Russian Drone Developer Isn’t Impressed by U.S. Tech![]()
This is truly a master class in drone technology.
>In this exclusive interview, I sit down with a Russian military drone developer inside his secret workshop to talk about the future of drone warfare. From FPV kamikaze drones and fiber-optic guidance systems to jamming tactics and the rise of interceptor drones — we cover it all. We also discuss how Russia and Ukraine have become the world’s most advanced drone war laboratories, what makes Chinese tech fall short, and why the West is struggling to catch up.
[YouTube] Why This Russian Drone Developer Isn’t Impressed by U.S. Tech
This is truly a master class in drone technology.
>>390622
Boring. Just another technician without understanding of situation.
FPV drone manufacturing cost between 3.5-18 manhours vs 1.7-5.1 manhours for 152-mm artillery shell. Artillery usually spend 50 shells to injure one soldier in trenches/hideouts (only 1/6 of injuries are deadly). Efficacy of FPV drones can be compared to artillery shells, both sides lost around 85% drones before they reach target location, only 3% drones actually injure enemy (data from September 2024). Drones 150% better than artillery shells with same distance, same number of personnel, and comparable numbers of sorties per day.
Major difference is weight. Basic 152-mm artillery ammunition is 3OF25, 44 kg shell, 80 kg case, this is almost 10 times heavier than drone. In addition howitzer much more vulnerable than drone team. Ukrainians still don't understood, what type of weapon they actually created. FPV drone teams almost invulnerable to aviation strikes, you can spread them, you can make them looks like infantry, you can use Starlink or our Orbit communication system. During Kursk offensive we estimated around 80 teams, but manage to kill just 10 of them. Drones totally counter NATO advantage in airforce.
[Read more] Boring. Just another technician without understanding of situation.
FPV drone manufacturing cost between 3.5-18 manhours vs 1.7-5.1 manhours for 152-mm artillery shell. Artillery usually spend 50 shells to injure one soldier in trenches/hideouts (only 1/6 of injuries are deadly). Efficacy of FPV drones can be compared to artillery shells, both sides lost around 85% drones before they reach target location, only 3% drones actually injure enemy (data from September 2024). Drones 150% better than artillery shells with same distance, same number of personnel, and comparable numbers of sorties per day.
Major difference is weight. Basic 152-mm artillery ammunition is 3OF25, 44 kg shell, 80 kg case, this is almost 10 times heavier than drone. In addition howitzer much more vulnerable than drone team. Ukrainians still don't understood, what type of weapon they actually created. FPV drone teams almost invulnerable to aviation strikes, you can spread them, you can make them looks like infantry, you can use Starlink or our Orbit communication system. During Kursk offensive we estimated around 80 teams, but manage to kill just 10 of them. Drones totally counter NATO advantage in airforce.
>>390821
>wacky drone defense prototypes
I don't expect much. Too complex problem, especially with fiber optic drones. We try explosive electromagnetic generators, but effective range just around 50-100 meters for 152 mm shell. We try lasers, but they effective only around 100-150 meters. We try turrets, but they can't detect drones effectively with only visual/thermal channels, and radars too expensive. New trend is drone-interceptors around assault troops, but they still have problem with automatic detection.
>>390810
We don't have save button, you know. United States, European Union and Russia can't mobilize more than 2% population, because of agreement. If we do this, other countries do this too, which make major war inevitable in following years just because of cost of maintainance for such armies. Fortunately, we all don't have ammunition for major conflict.
Actually during first stages of this war Russia used just same forces and number of shells per day as during second Chechen war (150k army, 50k shells per day). This started as demonstration, like Georgian campaign, but during following years we spend more than half of USSR shell stocks without significant results, they just mobilize more mans. First world war was ended, when Germany mobilize around 5% of population (20% mans). Ukraine still can mobilize around 300k soldiers, but army already crumbling.
Maybe year or two and we force them to peace deal. Peace agreement has exploit (confederation for eastern regions) which make disintegration of Ukraine inevitable. But we certainly not want to occupy them. Russia already spend around 6% GDP for this war, we just don't have more resources to support hostile population. Current condition of infrastructure of new regions so bad than we prefer resettlement than reconstruction.
[Read more] >wacky drone defense prototypes
I don't expect much. Too complex problem, especially with fiber optic drones. We try explosive electromagnetic generators, but effective range just around 50-100 meters for 152 mm shell. We try lasers, but they effective only around 100-150 meters. We try turrets, but they can't detect drones effectively with only visual/thermal channels, and radars too expensive. New trend is drone-interceptors around assault troops, but they still have problem with automatic detection.
>>390810
We don't have save button, you know. United States, European Union and Russia can't mobilize more than 2% population, because of agreement. If we do this, other countries do this too, which make major war inevitable in following years just because of cost of maintainance for such armies. Fortunately, we all don't have ammunition for major conflict.
Actually during first stages of this war Russia used just same forces and number of shells per day as during second Chechen war (150k army, 50k shells per day). This started as demonstration, like Georgian campaign, but during following years we spend more than half of USSR shell stocks without significant results, they just mobilize more mans. First world war was ended, when Germany mobilize around 5% of population (20% mans). Ukraine still can mobilize around 300k soldiers, but army already crumbling.
Maybe year or two and we force them to peace deal. Peace agreement has exploit (confederation for eastern regions) which make disintegration of Ukraine inevitable. But we certainly not want to occupy them. Russia already spend around 6% GDP for this war, we just don't have more resources to support hostile population. Current condition of infrastructure of new regions so bad than we prefer resettlement than reconstruction.
Ukraine Launches Massive Drone Swarm Attack On Russian Airfields
https://www.zerohedge.com/military/ukrainian-drone-swarm-attacks-hit-russian-long-range-bombers
Ukraine successfully attacked numerous air bases in Russia.
Forty Russian combat aircraft were reportedly destroyed, including nuclear-capable aircraft. The Ukrainian drone attacks took place deep inland, some 1,800 km from Ukraine.
Lots of the attacks' videos on the link. Let's see what polite Putin gonna do.
https://www.zerohedge.com/military/ukrainian-drone-swarm-attacks-hit-russian-long-range-bombers
Ukraine successfully attacked numerous air bases in Russia.
Forty Russian combat aircraft were reportedly destroyed, including nuclear-capable aircraft. The Ukrainian drone attacks took place deep inland, some 1,800 km from Ukraine.
Lots of the attacks' videos on the link. Let's see what polite Putin gonna do.
>>391369
>Lots of the attacks' videos on the link.
Can you post them all here? Quite hard to estimate damage during first days after operation, but when they finally post all videos I can ask frens and estimate repair time in man-hours. Also, they attack two railroad bridges too. Looks like our summer offensive just started.
By the way, attack against strategic aircrafts it is attack against our private drone manufacturing. I heard all drone parts were imported through legal channels. I hope magus Belousov don't close our supplies after this.
>Lots of the attacks' videos on the link.
Can you post them all here? Quite hard to estimate damage during first days after operation, but when they finally post all videos I can ask frens and estimate repair time in man-hours. Also, they attack two railroad bridges too. Looks like our summer offensive just started.
By the way, attack against strategic aircrafts it is attack against our private drone manufacturing. I heard all drone parts were imported through legal channels. I hope magus Belousov don't close our supplies after this.
Russia really took a huge L this weekend.
A visual representation of the last 24 hours.
>>391369
realistically speaking how much does this actually set Russia back, though? People are always clickbaiting that it's THE END OF RUSSIA whenever Ukraine pulls something like this off, then Ukraine continues to get raped on every front and that's downplayed if not completely unreported.
realistically speaking how much does this actually set Russia back, though? People are always clickbaiting that it's THE END OF RUSSIA whenever Ukraine pulls something like this off, then Ukraine continues to get raped on every front and that's downplayed if not completely unreported.
>>391420
>People are always clickbaiting that it's THE END OF RUSSIA whenever Ukraine pulls something like this off
Ikr. It's like the boy who cried wolf. I can never tell anymore.
This does seem substantial though.
>People are always clickbaiting that it's THE END OF RUSSIA whenever Ukraine pulls something like this off
Ikr. It's like the boy who cried wolf. I can never tell anymore.
This does seem substantial though.
>>391420
>>391425
Ukraine is not going to win no matter what. That should be clear to anyone. This attack is more of a blow to Russia's reputation.
If more of these operations are carried out, they could leave Russia's capabilities fairly diminished by the end of the war. And that could embolden NATO. China would also expand more in Central Asia at Russia's expense.
>>391425
Ukraine is not going to win no matter what. That should be clear to anyone. This attack is more of a blow to Russia's reputation.
If more of these operations are carried out, they could leave Russia's capabilities fairly diminished by the end of the war. And that could embolden NATO. China would also expand more in Central Asia at Russia's expense.
>>391428
>Ukraine is not going to win no matter what.
Then who will? Russia? Their forces have been stuck in eastern ukraine for 3 years with almost no markable territorial changes
I think they should just give up at this point
>Ukraine is not going to win no matter what.
Then who will? Russia? Their forces have been stuck in eastern ukraine for 3 years with almost no markable territorial changes
I think they should just give up at this point
>>391435
>I think they should just give up at this point
Why? 6% GDP is not too expensive. Our army rapidly reforming because of wartime economy. Ukrainian engineers works for us, NATO works for us. All pre-war armament completely outdated already, but enemy still respect pre-war agreements and didn't start mobilization. This is perfect opportunity, despite quite dire situation. We must prolong this war as long as possible and avoid any escalation.
Time has not come yet. Comfy occurrence in Strait of Malacca first.
>I think they should just give up at this point
Why? 6% GDP is not too expensive. Our army rapidly reforming because of wartime economy. Ukrainian engineers works for us, NATO works for us. All pre-war armament completely outdated already, but enemy still respect pre-war agreements and didn't start mobilization. This is perfect opportunity, despite quite dire situation. We must prolong this war as long as possible and avoid any escalation.
Time has not come yet. Comfy occurrence in Strait of Malacca first.
>>391438
>We must prolong this war as long as possible and avoid any escalation.
And that's because... ?
>We must prolong this war as long as possible and avoid any escalation.
And that's because... ?
>>391438
Well, before germans can fight in the trenches again you'll have to fight out of the trenches of bureaucracy that all your neighbors imposed, probably for the express purpose of preventing that sentiment of your's.
I'm so very rooting for you, foreigner.
Well, before germans can fight in the trenches again you'll have to fight out of the trenches of bureaucracy that all your neighbors imposed, probably for the express purpose of preventing that sentiment of your's.
I'm so very rooting for you, foreigner.
>>391435
They took more territory from Ukraine, their army earned experience and Ukraine won't be able to join NATO. It's still a W, even if it's not that impressive.
I don't think they'll be able to push beyond the Dnieper tho.
>I think they should just give up at this point.
Neither side wants peace.
They took more territory from Ukraine, their army earned experience and Ukraine won't be able to join NATO. It's still a W, even if it's not that impressive.
I don't think they'll be able to push beyond the Dnieper tho.
>I think they should just give up at this point.
Neither side wants peace.
>>391438
>We must prolong this war as long as possible and avoid any escalation.
Why the fuck would you want to prolong any kind of war? That only maximizes human death and suffering.
Also, Ukraine cannot win a war of attrition: it's a population issue. The best result for both parties would be if the war ends with a deal as soon as possible.
>We must prolong this war as long as possible and avoid any escalation.
Why the fuck would you want to prolong any kind of war? That only maximizes human death and suffering.
Also, Ukraine cannot win a war of attrition: it's a population issue. The best result for both parties would be if the war ends with a deal as soon as possible.
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>>391439
>>391449
Because of strategical goal. Russia has 35M industrial workforce (except women and unskilled migrants), we need around 80M labor force in next 20-30 years to build new cities in southern Siberia and Eastern coast, to make industry around coal mining (modern industrial technologies mostly based on coal because of China). Time is very limited. Russia need to create confederation with 350M population and force labor force to move east, or we lost this territories and our future.
Best potential allies for this project is European countries, if we manage to destroy globalhomo EU or transform it to some kind of fascist confederation. Friendly or hostile, it doesn't matter. With friendly countries we make a coalition (we ready to serious concessions like free energy and special economic zones), with hostile EU, separated from US, we desperate enough to start local nuclear war. Destruction of western Russian metropolises like Moscow and Petersburg is admissible loses, they useless in future anyway.
Backup variant is eastern anti-China coalition. We already make a deal with Vietnam, South and North Korea. They clearly don't want to be battleground between US and China and ready to share workforce. We fail with Japan because of Shinzo Abe assassination and territorial conflict.
Subsidiary variant №1 is Central Asia, Iran and India. But this is limited source of workforce because of enormous expenditures to stabilize Central Asia and almost unavoidable wars in Ferghana Valley and Kazakhstan.
Subsidiary variant №2 is Africa. We throw out France from Africa just because of labor force. A lot of Africans ready to work in Siberia, and we already reform many technical school for them.
Overall we need police state + prolonged war to force internal workforce migration from west to east and numerous entirely Russian army to protect coalition.
This is official and public conception. "Концепция внешней политики Российской Федерации" 23 March 2023. Less official form lecture for intelligence service "Новый глобальный ландшафт и вызовы для России" Андрей Безруков:
[YouTube] Лекция А.О.Безрукова «Новый глобальный ландшафт и вызовы для России»![]()
[Read more] >>391449
Because of strategical goal. Russia has 35M industrial workforce (except women and unskilled migrants), we need around 80M labor force in next 20-30 years to build new cities in southern Siberia and Eastern coast, to make industry around coal mining (modern industrial technologies mostly based on coal because of China). Time is very limited. Russia need to create confederation with 350M population and force labor force to move east, or we lost this territories and our future.
Best potential allies for this project is European countries, if we manage to destroy globalhomo EU or transform it to some kind of fascist confederation. Friendly or hostile, it doesn't matter. With friendly countries we make a coalition (we ready to serious concessions like free energy and special economic zones), with hostile EU, separated from US, we desperate enough to start local nuclear war. Destruction of western Russian metropolises like Moscow and Petersburg is admissible loses, they useless in future anyway.
Backup variant is eastern anti-China coalition. We already make a deal with Vietnam, South and North Korea. They clearly don't want to be battleground between US and China and ready to share workforce. We fail with Japan because of Shinzo Abe assassination and territorial conflict.
Subsidiary variant №1 is Central Asia, Iran and India. But this is limited source of workforce because of enormous expenditures to stabilize Central Asia and almost unavoidable wars in Ferghana Valley and Kazakhstan.
Subsidiary variant №2 is Africa. We throw out France from Africa just because of labor force. A lot of Africans ready to work in Siberia, and we already reform many technical school for them.
Overall we need police state + prolonged war to force internal workforce migration from west to east and numerous entirely Russian army to protect coalition.
This is official and public conception. "Концепция внешней политики Российской Федерации" 23 March 2023. Less official form lecture for intelligence service "Новый глобальный ландшафт и вызовы для России" Андрей Безруков:
[YouTube] Лекция А.О.Безрукова «Новый глобальный ландшафт и вызовы для России»
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>>391461
Also, this is map of economical effective territory. All northern regions completely useless (all effective Earth civilizations live in climate of ±10°C January isoterm). Russia is separated country: western cluster does not have cheap energy, southern Siberian cluster doesn't have population, eastern cluster just tiny line of towns near China border. Meanwhile greatest coal deposit on Earth are located in Eastern Siberia, around dotted line.
South China Sea is the center of maritime trade, 1/3 of world trade already and it will be around 2/3 after 2040s. When China solve their problems with Malacca, they undoubtedly focus attention at energy resources. This is why we need to build new cities, ports and military bases in this region. No one can withstand against 15 million army, but with enough population, modern nuclear weapon and strong routes we can keep control and use situation to create new industrial center in Southern Siberia and growing economical zone on Eastern shore.
This is why we ready to sacrifice infrastructure of western cluster and all western trade routes for much more stable situation in nearest future.
Also, this is map of economical effective territory. All northern regions completely useless (all effective Earth civilizations live in climate of ±10°C January isoterm). Russia is separated country: western cluster does not have cheap energy, southern Siberian cluster doesn't have population, eastern cluster just tiny line of towns near China border. Meanwhile greatest coal deposit on Earth are located in Eastern Siberia, around dotted line.
South China Sea is the center of maritime trade, 1/3 of world trade already and it will be around 2/3 after 2040s. When China solve their problems with Malacca, they undoubtedly focus attention at energy resources. This is why we need to build new cities, ports and military bases in this region. No one can withstand against 15 million army, but with enough population, modern nuclear weapon and strong routes we can keep control and use situation to create new industrial center in Southern Siberia and growing economical zone on Eastern shore.
This is why we ready to sacrifice infrastructure of western cluster and all western trade routes for much more stable situation in nearest future.
>>391461
>Because of strategical goal.
So you would sacrifice millions of Ukrainians and Russians alike artificially prolonging a war for your own goals? Cool.
>if we manage to destroy globalhomo EU or transform it to some kind of fascist confederation
Do that first.
>Destruction of western Russian metropolises like Moscow and Petersburg is admissible loses
That would lead to intercontinental nuclear war.
>Overall we need police state + prolonged war to force internal workforce migration from west to east and numerous entirely Russian army to protect coalition.
This is ZOG logic.
>>391471
>we can keep control and use situation to create new industrial center
Who is this "we"? Who are you?
[Read more] >Because of strategical goal.
So you would sacrifice millions of Ukrainians and Russians alike artificially prolonging a war for your own goals? Cool.
>if we manage to destroy globalhomo EU or transform it to some kind of fascist confederation
Do that first.
>Destruction of western Russian metropolises like Moscow and Petersburg is admissible loses
That would lead to intercontinental nuclear war.
>Overall we need police state + prolonged war to force internal workforce migration from west to east and numerous entirely Russian army to protect coalition.
This is ZOG logic.
>>391471
>we can keep control and use situation to create new industrial center
Who is this "we"? Who are you?
>>391461
Nigger, this isn't hearts of iron. Russia can survive a nuclear war, but it would be too diminished to try anything in Siberia afterwards.
Even without nuclear war, do you know how long it would take to get logistics up to speed in Siberia of all places? Moscow sits at the heart of Russia's rivers system. You can't easily replace it either.
And if your plan is to bring 100's of millions of niggers to replace radiated Slavs you might as well try draconian policies to increase birthrates instead. That is way better than negrifying Russia.
Nigger, this isn't hearts of iron. Russia can survive a nuclear war, but it would be too diminished to try anything in Siberia afterwards.
Even without nuclear war, do you know how long it would take to get logistics up to speed in Siberia of all places? Moscow sits at the heart of Russia's rivers system. You can't easily replace it either.
And if your plan is to bring 100's of millions of niggers to replace radiated Slavs you might as well try draconian policies to increase birthrates instead. That is way better than negrifying Russia.
>>391475
>So you would sacrifice millions of Ukrainians and Russians alike artificially prolonging a war for your own goals? Cool.
Better to die for Imperium, than live for yourself.
Every single campaign, from Syria and Africa to Ukraine, is direct operation to contain NATO and reshape EU. Real problem that European military still don't have real power to make long lasting decisions. We fail miserable any cooperation with European economical and ideological parties after 2008, but usually can made agreements with nationalistic military elites. They are opposition, after all. Also, we can made agreement with Ukrainian military: we attack hohols because they are enemy, not because they are hohols. And we are grateful for lessons.
>Who is this "we"? Who are you?
Evil imperialistic party, of course. And humble zealot, who is tired of conformity of opinions in Russian military and limited understanding of our strategical goals from adversarial side. Quite sad, that confrontation with Europe can be resolved by diplomacy, but we still prefer prolonged military solution just to compensate technological gap and reform army for future conquests.
Also, we are quite ZOGish here. Maybe it is just self-assurance, but I do not see any problems with barbarians. Any human being can be friend, if he is ready to be part of our spiritual kin, or valuable resource, if not.
[Read more] >So you would sacrifice millions of Ukrainians and Russians alike artificially prolonging a war for your own goals? Cool.
Better to die for Imperium, than live for yourself.
Every single campaign, from Syria and Africa to Ukraine, is direct operation to contain NATO and reshape EU. Real problem that European military still don't have real power to make long lasting decisions. We fail miserable any cooperation with European economical and ideological parties after 2008, but usually can made agreements with nationalistic military elites. They are opposition, after all. Also, we can made agreement with Ukrainian military: we attack hohols because they are enemy, not because they are hohols. And we are grateful for lessons.
>Who is this "we"? Who are you?
Evil imperialistic party, of course. And humble zealot, who is tired of conformity of opinions in Russian military and limited understanding of our strategical goals from adversarial side. Quite sad, that confrontation with Europe can be resolved by diplomacy, but we still prefer prolonged military solution just to compensate technological gap and reform army for future conquests.
Also, we are quite ZOGish here. Maybe it is just self-assurance, but I do not see any problems with barbarians. Any human being can be friend, if he is ready to be part of our spiritual kin, or valuable resource, if not.
>>391503
>Nigger, this isn't hearts of iron. Russia can survive a nuclear war, but it would be too diminished to try anything in Siberia afterwards.
>Even without nuclear war, do you know how long it would take to get logistics up to speed in Siberia of all places?
Hearts of Iron is good game and Russia did HoI-level feats twice last century. First time during WW2, when USSR evacuated half of heavy industry to southern Siberia. Second time after collapse of Soviet Union, when Russia lost around 40% economy again just to rebuild industry and infrastructure in ten years (from 8 to 13 tons metal stock per capita). We are fucking experts.
Nuclear war is just humorous scenario nowadays, but maybe fastest way to refresh European security agreements. We just waste time, trying to break drone-centric defense without proper weapon. Nuclear stratospheric explosion generate EMP strong enough to destroy civil electronics in radius around 25 km, 2000 km² (all drones, sensors, starlink satellites), and normal offensive doctrine expected to use 5-8 special ammunition per division every day.
But nope, this is forbidden thinking. No escalation before active phase of US-China war.
>And if your plan is to bring 100's of millions of niggers to replace radiated Slavs you might as well try draconian policies to increase birthrates instead.
Every single country nowadays avoid high birthrates. Young population = political instability. Especially when oil golden age already turns to energy autumn. Migrants will be expelled after robotisation, but what will we do with native teenagers who doomed to poverty. Russia is overpopulated country for our climate (Kursk is equivalent of Canadian Ontario). Peak of abortions in USSR had a serious reason.
[Read more] >Nigger, this isn't hearts of iron. Russia can survive a nuclear war, but it would be too diminished to try anything in Siberia afterwards.
>Even without nuclear war, do you know how long it would take to get logistics up to speed in Siberia of all places?
Hearts of Iron is good game and Russia did HoI-level feats twice last century. First time during WW2, when USSR evacuated half of heavy industry to southern Siberia. Second time after collapse of Soviet Union, when Russia lost around 40% economy again just to rebuild industry and infrastructure in ten years (from 8 to 13 tons metal stock per capita). We are fucking experts.
Nuclear war is just humorous scenario nowadays, but maybe fastest way to refresh European security agreements. We just waste time, trying to break drone-centric defense without proper weapon. Nuclear stratospheric explosion generate EMP strong enough to destroy civil electronics in radius around 25 km, 2000 km² (all drones, sensors, starlink satellites), and normal offensive doctrine expected to use 5-8 special ammunition per division every day.
But nope, this is forbidden thinking. No escalation before active phase of US-China war.
>And if your plan is to bring 100's of millions of niggers to replace radiated Slavs you might as well try draconian policies to increase birthrates instead.
Every single country nowadays avoid high birthrates. Young population = political instability. Especially when oil golden age already turns to energy autumn. Migrants will be expelled after robotisation, but what will we do with native teenagers who doomed to poverty. Russia is overpopulated country for our climate (Kursk is equivalent of Canadian Ontario). Peak of abortions in USSR had a serious reason.
>>391461
>if we manage to destroy globalhomo EU or transform it to some kind of fascist confederation
I'm sorry for ruining your vatnik fantasy but this is just not possible, if russia can't even successfully invade ukraine alone then it's no where near destroying or transforming the entire EU
>if we manage to destroy globalhomo EU or transform it to some kind of fascist confederation
I'm sorry for ruining your vatnik fantasy but this is just not possible, if russia can't even successfully invade ukraine alone then it's no where near destroying or transforming the entire EU
>>391566
>First time during WW2, when USSR evacuated half of heavy industry to southern Siberia.
They already had existing infrastructure there. They had industrial capacity.
>Second time after collapse of Soviet Union, when Russia lost around 40% economy again just to rebuild industry and infrastructure in ten years (from 8 to 13 tons metal stock per capita).
Kikes privatized everything and were syphoning wealth out of the country. Putin stopped them. Oil prices skyrocketed.
This is irrelevant to your point.
>Every single country nowadays avoid high birthrates. Young population = political instability.
Bringing millions of muzzies to gay liberal nations full of kikes is not the best recipe for political stability. It's industrialization and modernity in general what it's driving down the fertility rate.
>Migrants will be expelled after robotisation, but what will we do with native teenagers who doomed to poverty.
This is literally e/acc astroturfed bs. The AI revolution is not on the horizon. Certainly not the kind that Russia would need in order to afford expelling these people.
And Russia is too far behind on that game anyways, it's the last country that should be banking on it.
>Russia is overpopulated country
You just want to wipe out slavoids. Just be honest about it.
[Read more] >First time during WW2, when USSR evacuated half of heavy industry to southern Siberia.
They already had existing infrastructure there. They had industrial capacity.
>Second time after collapse of Soviet Union, when Russia lost around 40% economy again just to rebuild industry and infrastructure in ten years (from 8 to 13 tons metal stock per capita).
Kikes privatized everything and were syphoning wealth out of the country. Putin stopped them. Oil prices skyrocketed.
This is irrelevant to your point.
>Every single country nowadays avoid high birthrates. Young population = political instability.
Bringing millions of muzzies to gay liberal nations full of kikes is not the best recipe for political stability. It's industrialization and modernity in general what it's driving down the fertility rate.
>Migrants will be expelled after robotisation, but what will we do with native teenagers who doomed to poverty.
This is literally e/acc astroturfed bs. The AI revolution is not on the horizon. Certainly not the kind that Russia would need in order to afford expelling these people.
And Russia is too far behind on that game anyways, it's the last country that should be banking on it.
>Russia is overpopulated country
You just want to wipe out slavoids. Just be honest about it.
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