https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c20x5xn1g92o
US Secretary of State Marco Rubio has warned that the United States will abandon trying to broker a Russia-Ukraine peace deal unless clear signs that a truce can be reached appear soon.
"We're not going to continue with this endeavour for weeks and months on end," Rubio said, adding that the US had "other priorities to focus on".
Russia are now over 3 years into their 3 day special military operation with still no end in sight.
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need to stop supplying weapons and it will be over in about 3 months
>>384684
>the United States will abandon trying to broker a Russia-Ukraine peace deal unless clear signs that a truce can be reached appear soon
To begin with, Trump has no cards to play in this game.
And the peace deal is propaganda, the Americans want a cease fire, the Russians a final perpetual peace, even if they have to kill everyone. In other words Victory.
According Mr Putin, the beef between Russia and NATO will be solved when NATO retreats to the 1997 borders, that means Germany. That said, the Russians are not in a hurry because they know Europe is finished economically and demographically. According to projections, by 2050 the French Nation will be a distant idea and Germany and England perhaps sooner.
On the side of America, Mr Trump is fucking everything up by lying to the voters and refusing to actually cut expending on the bureacracy/military complex and instead raising money with tariff indirect taxes to finance the same shit as previous presidents, all while chest thumping on the quest to attack Iran and China. Totally clownword.
>the United States will abandon trying to broker a Russia-Ukraine peace deal unless clear signs that a truce can be reached appear soon
To begin with, Trump has no cards to play in this game.
And the peace deal is propaganda, the Americans want a cease fire, the Russians a final perpetual peace, even if they have to kill everyone. In other words Victory.
According Mr Putin, the beef between Russia and NATO will be solved when NATO retreats to the 1997 borders, that means Germany. That said, the Russians are not in a hurry because they know Europe is finished economically and demographically. According to projections, by 2050 the French Nation will be a distant idea and Germany and England perhaps sooner.
On the side of America, Mr Trump is fucking everything up by lying to the voters and refusing to actually cut expending on the bureacracy/military complex and instead raising money with tariff indirect taxes to finance the same shit as previous presidents, all while chest thumping on the quest to attack Iran and China. Totally clownword.
I'm so fucking sick of everyone making this shitty ass proxy war everyone's problem. Nations should honestly stop supporting Ukraine or Russia all together.
>>384684
Zelensky wants all the Ukranians dead. Peace will never be achieved as long as the cocaine hog remains (in power).
Zelensky wants all the Ukranians dead. Peace will never be achieved as long as the cocaine hog remains (in power).
>>384684
Why would Russia even bother negotiating? Ukraine is going to lose without support from the U.S. and then Russia can get everything it wants.
Why would Russia even bother negotiating? Ukraine is going to lose without support from the U.S. and then Russia can get everything it wants.
>>384697
We have the only cards to play. Ukraine isn't going to last a week without US aide, we can cut their coms, and even at maximum output the entirety of Europe would only be able to supply about half the support that the US can.
The Jewish comedian is just willing to lose every man woman and child in Russia to maintain his image as a tough guy.
We have the only cards to play. Ukraine isn't going to last a week without US aide, we can cut their coms, and even at maximum output the entirety of Europe would only be able to supply about half the support that the US can.
The Jewish comedian is just willing to lose every man woman and child in Russia to maintain his image as a tough guy.
>>384684
Ukraine is either going to be our bitch or Russia's, this is the most pointless retarded and gay war ever.
Ukraine is either going to be our bitch or Russia's, this is the most pointless retarded and gay war ever.
>>384941
It's not like he would somehow have have his '91 borders and reparations in 666 godzillion dollars because Trump and the Reps like him (they don't).
It's not like he would somehow have have his '91 borders and reparations in 666 godzillion dollars because Trump and the Reps like him (they don't).
>>384967
>He will abandon Ukraine because Putin told him to.
Nope. Trump will exit Ukraine because America lost the war. The cease fire deal is absurd because America is co-belligerent in the conflict and not a neutral party. Another reason of leaving is that America is scrapping the button of the warehouses because ran out of weapons and has no capacity to produce more. Add to that that America is on a schedule to deliver the Iran war to Israel and then by 2028, the war with China for the American banksters.
>He will abandon Ukraine because Putin told him to.
Nope. Trump will exit Ukraine because America lost the war. The cease fire deal is absurd because America is co-belligerent in the conflict and not a neutral party. Another reason of leaving is that America is scrapping the button of the warehouses because ran out of weapons and has no capacity to produce more. Add to that that America is on a schedule to deliver the Iran war to Israel and then by 2028, the war with China for the American banksters.
All I'm reading in this is Trump telling Zelensky to fuck off if he will keep being stubborn and a greenlight for Putin to win.
Well, hello, this is a pony with a weird two-color flag reporting. So to speak, an opinion from the first hooves from the front row of this tragicomedy of a farce, multiplied by a circus performance. My country is fucked in any scenario. While the US first helped both morally and physically, and then suddenly decided that they were tired of being the leading country on the planet, a quiet but distinct fuck-up happened in Ukraine. The country "put on eternal pause" the constitution, human rights, common sense. The slave trade has flourished in the country, and corruption (which has been the foundation of the country for more than 30 years) has reached such levels that African countries will still have to learn and adopt from us. Zelensky has seized power completely. There is no opposition in the country. At all. None. Not even a hint. Now it's a new Putin, but small, compact and with the voice of a sniffing drug addict. The people are left to survive between ballistic missile strikes and attempts to get to the nearest store, bypassing patrols of human hunters.
Ukraine no longer exists. It is the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic, which is fighting for the money of its enslaver with the Russian Soviet Socialist Republic. That's how it is.
Ukraine no longer exists. It is the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic, which is fighting for the money of its enslaver with the Russian Soviet Socialist Republic. That's how it is.
>>385174
do you have any plans about leaving the country? From what I know it's a matter of $10k just for the border control
>Russian Soviet Socialist Republic
aksuali it's RSFSR
do you have any plans about leaving the country? From what I know it's a matter of $10k just for the border control
>Russian Soviet Socialist Republic
aksuali it's RSFSR
>>385174
>and then suddenly decided that they were tired of being the leading country on the planet
I believe that the real story is a bit more complicated. The Americans are facing bankruptcy and had a plan to take over the natural resources of Russia and then to take control of the Chinese factories, all which would transform America in the master of the universe in the XXI century.
Unfortunately, the Russian part flopped badly and the Chinese part doesn't look like is going to pan out well either.
>Ukraine... That's how it is.
I remember Maidan and the 2014/2015 bombings of civilians in Donbass. The ukro hatred for the moskals came back like a boomerang. Just saying.
>and then suddenly decided that they were tired of being the leading country on the planet
I believe that the real story is a bit more complicated. The Americans are facing bankruptcy and had a plan to take over the natural resources of Russia and then to take control of the Chinese factories, all which would transform America in the master of the universe in the XXI century.
Unfortunately, the Russian part flopped badly and the Chinese part doesn't look like is going to pan out well either.
>Ukraine... That's how it is.
I remember Maidan and the 2014/2015 bombings of civilians in Donbass. The ukro hatred for the moskals came back like a boomerang. Just saying.
>>385176
>do you have any plans about leaving the country?
The problem is that no country wants them anymore and see them as a terrorist threat.
>do you have any plans about leaving the country?
The problem is that no country wants them anymore and see them as a terrorist threat.
>>385180
To be fair though, that's also how the rest of the world views Americans.
There will be nowhere to flee to when (((they))) are finished looting the treasury and the hollow shell thet remains collapses under the weight of its own hypocrisy.
To be fair though, that's also how the rest of the world views Americans.
There will be nowhere to flee to when (((they))) are finished looting the treasury and the hollow shell thet remains collapses under the weight of its own hypocrisy.
>>385174
So... you guys jumped around and found out.
What happened with "we can do that again if we don't like the new president"?
As a "moskal'" I can only say "told you so".
But that's in general.
What about you specifially, got any way out of this?
So... you guys jumped around and found out.
What happened with "we can do that again if we don't like the new president"?
As a "moskal'" I can only say "told you so".
But that's in general.
What about you specifially, got any way out of this?
>>385174
a missionary I know lived in ukraine for ~40 years, moved out shortly after. He still has all his contacts over there. I could give you his email address if you want.
There was also a pony matrix server that was hosted over there in ukraine on a raspberry pie or something. sunbutt.faith
https://web.archive.org/web/20210128012455/https://sunbutt.faith/InnerEq.org I hope that guy is alright.
a missionary I know lived in ukraine for ~40 years, moved out shortly after. He still has all his contacts over there. I could give you his email address if you want.
There was also a pony matrix server that was hosted over there in ukraine on a raspberry pie or something. sunbutt.faith
https://web.archive.org/web/20210128012455/https://sunbutt.faith/InnerEq.org I hope that guy is alright.
>>385191
>I could give you his email address if you want.
Don't be naive. SBU glowniggers are crawling these boards.
>I could give you his email address if you want.
Don't be naive. SBU glowniggers are crawling these boards.
>>385194
Ukraine was always a jewish enclave.
That's why the tsars carried out their pogroms there.
That's why Stalin repeatedly curb-stomped the region.
That's why they were the first territory to break away from the collapse of the USSR.
That's why there's an ongoing shitflinging contest there since 2014.
Well, that and NATO encroachment.
Ukraine was always a jewish enclave.
That's why the tsars carried out their pogroms there.
That's why Stalin repeatedly curb-stomped the region.
That's why they were the first territory to break away from the collapse of the USSR.
That's why there's an ongoing shitflinging contest there since 2014.
Well, that and NATO encroachment.
>>385179
>>2014/2015 bombings of civilians in Donbass
Stop eating propaganda. It's already a meme about "8 лет донбили бамбас"
>>385176
45k was in 2024 now it's more like 60+
And yes I am leaving. My terrible health is a bonus in this situation. So I am "Unfit for military service with exclusion from military service" I spent 3 years collecting all the documents and proving it.
>>385182
>>So... you guys jumped around and found out.
It would have happened anyway. Putler has an open anal wound from the collapse of the Soviet Union, and this devil will stop at nothing to heal it.
>>385191
Thank you
>>385192
They are more busy persecuting rebellious bloggers and taking away other people's property.
>>385196
Yes, yes, that's why strategic bombers have been redeployed to a new base and are being equipped with missiles. Putin is a Satanist, he jerks off to war crimes on church holidays.
>>385203
oy vey, have you seen my missing free shekel yet?
>>385194
Of all of them, only Zelensky is Jewish. But even the Jews hate him fiercely.
[Read more] >>2014/2015 bombings of civilians in Donbass
Stop eating propaganda. It's already a meme about "8 лет донбили бамбас"
>>385176
45k was in 2024 now it's more like 60+
And yes I am leaving. My terrible health is a bonus in this situation. So I am "Unfit for military service with exclusion from military service" I spent 3 years collecting all the documents and proving it.
>>385182
>>So... you guys jumped around and found out.
It would have happened anyway. Putler has an open anal wound from the collapse of the Soviet Union, and this devil will stop at nothing to heal it.
>>385191
Thank you
>>385192
They are more busy persecuting rebellious bloggers and taking away other people's property.
>>385196
Yes, yes, that's why strategic bombers have been redeployed to a new base and are being equipped with missiles. Putin is a Satanist, he jerks off to war crimes on church holidays.
>>385203
oy vey, have you seen my missing free shekel yet?
>>385194
Of all of them, only Zelensky is Jewish. But even the Jews hate him fiercely.
>>385223
>Pay 60k to leave your country
I feel like we're going to be in the same boat soon, minus the war.
>Pay 60k to leave your country
I feel like we're going to be in the same boat soon, minus the war.
>>385239
I'm not sure about UK but UA officially stops all male citizens from leaving the country
(you can obviously bribe your way out of the country, see Papich)
I'm not sure about UK but UA officially stops all male citizens from leaving the country
(you can obviously bribe your way out of the country, see Papich)
>>385194
<Kravchuk
>Attributing the global HIV pandemic
>Pointing out something common across all post-Soviet states at the time
<Kuchma
>Glossing over (i.e. not mentioning) the Russian aspect of the Multi-Vector Policy
>"Look, they trained their soldiers with some of the strongest armies there are!!"
<Yushchenko
>2010 - Orange revolution (it was in 2004)
>"We call our opponents Jewrope (ignore the above part where we don't do that), so they must indeed by Jews!"
>Mentions BLM despite it only starting ~2013
>"Banned Holocaust deniers" (actually happened in 2021, whereas the Russian equivalent of the law was passed ~2014)
>"Proclaimed Holodomor as genocide" (>>>/leftypol/)
<Yanukovych
>Forgetting he's in Russia right now
>"Muh Bandera!" (ignores that Yanukovych stripped away his Hero of Ukraine award)
>Glossing over how diverse (politically) Euromaidan was (including right-wing organisations like the Right Sector)
<Poroshenko
>"Look, now we're spelling Bandera as Transdera!"
>"Allowed LGBTQ" (he just let one random march happen, not his best moment to be honest)
>Implying Ukies started the war in Bombas
<Zelensky (the only actual Jew)
>"Allowed transhit for children" (being a tranny is still considered a mental illness)
>Implying Ruskies killing Ukies is somehow the fault of Ukies
>"Kikes are fighting alongside the right-wing units!" (only source I could find is some Kike article denying the accusations)
>"Bandera Values" (whatever those are supposed to be)
>"Cocaine addicted" (he was talking about coffee, look it up)
>"Allowed gay marriage" (hasn't been legalised yet)
>"Banned Orthodox [...] Churches" (only banned the Russian one, just follow a different patriarch for fuck's sake)
>Gay(n't)
>"Infinite gay funerals and [etc.]" (if referring to actual fags, wouldn't this be a good thing? If referring to regular soldiers, do you really think they support the fags?)
>>385174
No matter what happens after the war, another election will be held. As long as he's not reelected (assuming he even goes for a second term), his fuck-ups can be undone in time.
[Read more] <Kravchuk
>Attributing the global HIV pandemic
>Pointing out something common across all post-Soviet states at the time
<Kuchma
>Glossing over (i.e. not mentioning) the Russian aspect of the Multi-Vector Policy
>"Look, they trained their soldiers with some of the strongest armies there are!!"
<Yushchenko
>2010 - Orange revolution (it was in 2004)
>"We call our opponents Jewrope (ignore the above part where we don't do that), so they must indeed by Jews!"
>Mentions BLM despite it only starting ~2013
>"Banned Holocaust deniers" (actually happened in 2021, whereas the Russian equivalent of the law was passed ~2014)
>"Proclaimed Holodomor as genocide" (>>>/leftypol/)
<Yanukovych
>Forgetting he's in Russia right now
>"Muh Bandera!" (ignores that Yanukovych stripped away his Hero of Ukraine award)
>Glossing over how diverse (politically) Euromaidan was (including right-wing organisations like the Right Sector)
<Poroshenko
>"Look, now we're spelling Bandera as Transdera!"
>"Allowed LGBTQ" (he just let one random march happen, not his best moment to be honest)
>Implying Ukies started the war in Bombas
<Zelensky (the only actual Jew)
>"Allowed transhit for children" (being a tranny is still considered a mental illness)
>Implying Ruskies killing Ukies is somehow the fault of Ukies
>"Kikes are fighting alongside the right-wing units!" (only source I could find is some Kike article denying the accusations)
>"Bandera Values" (whatever those are supposed to be)
>"Cocaine addicted" (he was talking about coffee, look it up)
>"Allowed gay marriage" (hasn't been legalised yet)
>"Banned Orthodox [...] Churches" (only banned the Russian one, just follow a different patriarch for fuck's sake)
>Gay(n't)
>"Infinite gay funerals and [etc.]" (if referring to actual fags, wouldn't this be a good thing? If referring to regular soldiers, do you really think they support the fags?)
>>385174
No matter what happens after the war, another election will be held. As long as he's not reelected (assuming he even goes for a second term), his fuck-ups can be undone in time.
>>385223
>It would have happened anyway.
You could have had a normal election in a month or two and Yanukivhch would have lost. The whole maidan is an artificial escalation
>It would have happened anyway.
You could have had a normal election in a month or two and Yanukivhch would have lost. The whole maidan is an artificial escalation
>>385259
>>another election will be held
There will be no elections. Elections for Zelensky mean losing power. And now he has ALL the power in the country. Absolute. At the same time, there is no opposition. Who will force him to hold elections? No one. Who will force him to stop the war even under enslaving conditions for Ukraine? Elections and loss of power are his death. He will wriggle like a snake until the last Ukrainian.
>>385272
>>You could have had a normal election in a month or two and Yanukivhch would have lost. The whole maidan is an artificial escalation
You forget that in Ukraine itself there were and are oligarchs who took one side or the other. There was an initial spark (the cops beat up the students on the Maidan), and then this spark was picked up and fanned into a revolution. Just like with Floyd and BLM
>>385259
>>Muh Bandera
I am half Russian and half Moldovan, and I have never cared about these Banderas.
Ukraine got what it had been working towards throughout its entire period of independence with its eyes wide closed.
This in no way cancels the genocide of Ukrainians, by the hands of Russians and Ukrainians themselves. Everything here is very cursed, Anon.
[Read more] >>another election will be held
There will be no elections. Elections for Zelensky mean losing power. And now he has ALL the power in the country. Absolute. At the same time, there is no opposition. Who will force him to hold elections? No one. Who will force him to stop the war even under enslaving conditions for Ukraine? Elections and loss of power are his death. He will wriggle like a snake until the last Ukrainian.
>>385272
>>You could have had a normal election in a month or two and Yanukivhch would have lost. The whole maidan is an artificial escalation
You forget that in Ukraine itself there were and are oligarchs who took one side or the other. There was an initial spark (the cops beat up the students on the Maidan), and then this spark was picked up and fanned into a revolution. Just like with Floyd and BLM
>>385259
>>Muh Bandera
I am half Russian and half Moldovan, and I have never cared about these Banderas.
Ukraine got what it had been working towards throughout its entire period of independence with its eyes wide closed.
This in no way cancels the genocide of Ukrainians, by the hands of Russians and Ukrainians themselves. Everything here is very cursed, Anon.
>>385223
>Stop eating propaganda. It's already a meme about "8 лет донбили бамбас"
Yeah right, it's not like half of the country didn't hate the other one's guts for 20 years before that and it wasn't excerbated by the gubbermint laundering money while refusing to standardize the Ukrainian language and keeping Russian as an another official language.
Донбасс не бомбили, но даже если таки бомбили то это потому что клятые соскали это заслужили. И вообще они там все агенты Путлерморта.
>Stop eating propaganda. It's already a meme about "8 лет донбили бамбас"
Yeah right, it's not like half of the country didn't hate the other one's guts for 20 years before that and it wasn't excerbated by the gubbermint laundering money while refusing to standardize the Ukrainian language and keeping Russian as an another official language.
Донбасс не бомбили, но даже если таки бомбили то это потому что клятые соскали это заслужили. И вообще они там все агенты Путлерморта.
If you ask me about the reason of the whole jazz, it's fucking Srushev's fault. Because of him, all the Galician bantuderafags, which were granted amnesty, became CPSU members raving about communism in two more weeks and friendshit of peoples right until the USSR shat the bed, then immediately became the biggest anti-Russian shills out there. Farion was a CPSU member btw.
Exact same shit with Spratland, too.
Exact same shit with Spratland, too.
Fuck Zelensky, there will never be peace until he is swinging from a lamppost.
>>385360
At first it was just grumbling of Western Ukrainians (Galicians) and now it has grown into real fascism. Like if you don't speak Ukrainian you are not a person and an enemy. And this schizophrenia is only growing.
Divide people, scare them and you will get a controlled herd with which you can do anything.
>>385394
So bucking true and based
At first it was just grumbling of Western Ukrainians (Galicians) and now it has grown into real fascism. Like if you don't speak Ukrainian you are not a person and an enemy. And this schizophrenia is only growing.
Divide people, scare them and you will get a controlled herd with which you can do anything.
>>385394
So bucking true and based
>>385478
>ranting about fascism on /mlpol/ of all places
In either way, say there's no more Zelensky. Who does that leave you with? Poroshenko, Zaluzhny, Budanov? At "best", you may get a socialist in charge. Doesn't matter who's in charge, the policy regarding war isn't changing.
>ranting about fascism on /mlpol/ of all places
In either way, say there's no more Zelensky. Who does that leave you with? Poroshenko, Zaluzhny, Budanov? At "best", you may get a socialist in charge. Doesn't matter who's in charge, the policy regarding war isn't changing.
>>385490
>>Doesn't matter who's in charge, the policy regarding war isn't changing.
And this is the saddest thing about this situation. The country is finished.
>>Doesn't matter who's in charge, the policy regarding war isn't changing.
And this is the saddest thing about this situation. The country is finished.
>>385494
is there an option to move to russia or some other country? work at a Pon Pushka close by in one of the other countries?
is there an option to move to russia or some other country? work at a Pon Pushka close by in one of the other countries?
>>385223
>Stop eating propaganda.
Frankly, I prefer russian propaganda to ukrainian propaganda. Does that offend you? I hope it does. Maybe your stupid faggot leader shouldn't have come to the god damn White House and directly threaten the American people; talking mad shit about how "it's easy when there's an between the continents" and how "the war will reach the US" while not even wearing fucking suit. Fuck you Zelensky, the war will end on your doorstep and that's fucking that. That threat was where your epic card meme came from by the way, which you stole from President Trump like the kike piggy you are. Ukraine nationals in other countries ARE terrorists and legitimate security risks because they WILL try and start shit once Ukraine is finally dead and buried and they will be put down by the law.
>Stop eating propaganda.
Frankly, I prefer russian propaganda to ukrainian propaganda. Does that offend you? I hope it does. Maybe your stupid faggot leader shouldn't have come to the god damn White House and directly threaten the American people; talking mad shit about how "it's easy when there's an between the continents" and how "the war will reach the US" while not even wearing fucking suit. Fuck you Zelensky, the war will end on your doorstep and that's fucking that. That threat was where your epic card meme came from by the way, which you stole from President Trump like the kike piggy you are. Ukraine nationals in other countries ARE terrorists and legitimate security risks because they WILL try and start shit once Ukraine is finally dead and buried and they will be put down by the law.
>>385174
I've heard that some ukrainians literally go into prostitution rings to go out of the country. Apparently, some are ready to be a (gay) prostitute in my shithole of a city just to not get bombed by russians.
It's sad, but it does apparently very well in terms of revenue. Much to the delight of the lebanese and corsican mafias.
If anything, Ukraine sure looks like it has a future in human trafficking, a promising industry to be sure.
Also, I know it's easy when to say when I don't live in the country, but a leader taking a more authoritarian hand during a war is not only normal, it's necessary, no? I'm not even pro ukrainian, but it does seem normal that Zelensky consolidates it's grasp on power to win the war, even if he isn't going to win it.
I've heard that some ukrainians literally go into prostitution rings to go out of the country. Apparently, some are ready to be a (gay) prostitute in my shithole of a city just to not get bombed by russians.
It's sad, but it does apparently very well in terms of revenue. Much to the delight of the lebanese and corsican mafias.
If anything, Ukraine sure looks like it has a future in human trafficking, a promising industry to be sure.
Also, I know it's easy when to say when I don't live in the country, but a leader taking a more authoritarian hand during a war is not only normal, it's necessary, no? I'm not even pro ukrainian, but it does seem normal that Zelensky consolidates it's grasp on power to win the war, even if he isn't going to win it.
If quads, war ends before 2026 with Putin engaging in the zigger tradition of becoming an hero, every Russian being dragged into the streets and shot, and Zelensky denouncing his Jewish heritage and giving control of the country to Azov Battalion, who then take over Europe. Oh, and every nigger dying.
>>385478
>At first it was just grumbling of Western Ukrainians (Galicians) and now it has grown into real fascism
Not Fascism, but Jewish Totalitarianism. They are not the same, the former is meant to serve The People, the later to serve the jewry.
>At first it was just grumbling of Western Ukrainians (Galicians) and now it has grown into real fascism
Not Fascism, but Jewish Totalitarianism. They are not the same, the former is meant to serve The People, the later to serve the jewry.
>>385223
>Stop eating propaganda. It's already a meme about "8 лет донбили бамбас"
The Ukrainian crimes against civilians are widely documented and you are not going to deceive us.
For example:
Ukraine on Fire: The Real Story – 2014 Full Documentary by Oliver Stone
https://rumble.com/v4a5n5t-ukraine-on-fire-the-real-story-2014-full-documentary-by-oliver-stone.html
Or taking a look at the separatist militias and their fighters: Strelkov, Motorola, Givi, Batman.
>Stop eating propaganda. It's already a meme about "8 лет донбили бамбас"
The Ukrainian crimes against civilians are widely documented and you are not going to deceive us.
For example:
Ukraine on Fire: The Real Story – 2014 Full Documentary by Oliver Stone
https://rumble.com/v4a5n5t-ukraine-on-fire-the-real-story-2014-full-documentary-by-oliver-stone.html
Or taking a look at the separatist militias and their fighters: Strelkov, Motorola, Givi, Batman.
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