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brit/mlpol/ - new beginnings
Anonymous
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A containment thread for all brit/pol/ refugees, but also to highlight the political climate of the UK.

>Judges to announce ruling on definition of a woman
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg7pqzk47zo
>Why Prince Harry's surprise Ukraine warzone trip frustrated Prince William and left him fuming at palace officials
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14614371/why-Prince-Harry-Ukraine-visit-frustrated-Prince-William.html
>Russia sends horror WW3 threat to UK - 'We will kill all British people'
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/2042180/russia-ww3-threat-to-uk-ukraine
>Labour faces summer of union discontent
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/04/15/labour-faces-summer-of-union-discontent/
>UK inflation falls to 2.6%, increasing pressure on Bank to cut interest rates
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/apr/16/uk-inflation-falls-bank-of-england-interest-rates
>Toby Carvery owners admit felling beloved 500-year-old oak tree in London after local outrage
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/whitewebbs-woods-tree-enfield-sycamore-gap-b2733473.html
>Sadiq Khan confirms plan for almost 300 affordable homes next to North Middlesex University Hospital
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/sadiq-khan-affordable-housing-north-middlesex-hospital-vistry-edmonton-hyde-mayor-b1222622.html
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Anonymous
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>Hi all - you may have noticed this piece (https://www.thetimes.com/uk/technology-uk/article/mumsnet-openai-sues-copyright-infringement-cz5hzvf8s) in the Times today and I wanted to explain why we're doing this.

>Earlier this year, we became aware that OpenAI was scraping Mumsnet - presumably to train their large language model (LLM). Such scraping without permission is an explicit breach of our terms of use, which clearly state that no part of the site may be distributed, scraped or copied for any purpose without our express approval. So we approached Open AI and suggested they might like to licence our content. In truth there are some very good reasons why the LLMs should ingest our conversational data to train their models. The six billion plus words on Mumsnet is a unique record of twenty-four years of female conversation about everything from global politics to fashion to relationships with in-laws. By contrast the majority of the content on the web was written by and for men. AI models have misogyny baked in and we’d love to help counter the gender bias likely to be present in many of them and raise women’s voices. Their response was that they were more interested in datasets that are not easily accessible online.

>Much of the content on the open web is likewise being lifted. Mustafa Suleyman, CEO of Microsoft AI pronounced only two weeks ago that machine-learning companies are perfectly within their rights to scrape content published online because the moment it’s published it becomes ‘freeware’.

>You might ask why the theft of online content for model-training poses a problem - hasn’t Google been crawling all over websites and ingesting their data for search purposes since the dawn of the internet? True, but there is a clear value exchange in allowing Google to access that data, namely the resulting search traffic that comes from being indexed by Google. The LLMs are building models like ChatGPT to provide the answers to any and all prospective questions that will mean we’ll no longer need to go elsewhere for solutions. And they’re building those models with scraped content from the websites they are poised to replace.

>At Mumsnet we’re in a stronger position than most because much of our traffic comes to us direct and though it’s a piece of cake for an LLM to spit out a Mumsnet-style answer to a parenting question I doubt they’ll ever be as funny about parking wars or as honest about relationships and they’ll certainly never provide the emotional support that sees around a thousand women a year helped to leave abusive partners by other Mumsnet users. But if these trillion-dollar giants are simply allowed to pillage content from online publishers - and get away with it - they will destroy many of them.

>Not surprisingly, a number of large, global publishers are currently suing OpenAI and Microsoft for copyright infringement and here at Mumsnet though we’re neither large (in revenue terms) nor global, we’ve decided we have no choice but to initiate a legal complaint too.

>That’s not to say that A.I. is all bad of course. It plainly has the potential to advance human progress and improve our lives in multiple ways. But if the LLMs are allowed to simply steal content from publishers and communities like Mumsnet they risk destroying them. Everything that’s unique and brilliant about sites like ours will be lost, and a handful of Silicon Valley giants will be left with even more control over the world’s content and commerce.

>We know that taking on a multinational giant like OpenAI, with its $3bn of revenues, is not an easy task in the face of the huge resources they’ll throw at us but this is too important an issue to simply roll over. Not just for Mumsnet but for every website you’ve ever landed on for news, advice or simply to ask if you’re being unreasonable.
Hearty chuckle.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/site_stuff/5122770-why-were-taking-legal-action-against-open-ai-and-other-scrapers
Anonymous
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No.386017
>two forens talking about the future of UK industries
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9lJQONTC7Y
Anonymous
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Afternoon chaps
>Reviving the lost tradition of egg clapping
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx20jjrnv14o
>What customers really think of major supermarket's decision to scrap all self-checkout tills
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14631775/What-customers-really-think-major-supermarkets-decision-scrap-self-checkout-tills.html
>New weather maps turn orange as scorching 24C heat bomb to roast Britain
https://www.express.co.uk/news/weather/2044334/new-weather-maps-orange-42c-heat-bomb-britain
>Trans NHS patients can access every women-only space in London
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/04/20/trans-nhs-patients-access-women-only-space-in-london/
>Concern over ‘asbis’ after report finds people jailed for sleeping rough and feeding birds
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/apr/21/concern-over-asbis-after-report-finds-people-jailed-for-sleeping-rough-and-feeding-birds
>Last year, an entire town’s primary schools banned smartphones. This is what happened
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/social-media-st-albans-school-ban-phone-children-b2730745.html
>Spy chiefs say China is bugging St James’s Park benches to snoop on UK MPs
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/spy-chiefs-china-bugging-st-james-park-whitehall-b1223344.html
Anonymous
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>>385138
Can’t go cause it clashes with uni shit, but I’m hoping to go to UK Ponycon later this year. Anyone else here going?
Anonymous
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>>386215
I would like to go. I went last year. But I don’t know if my work schedule will allow it.
Anonymous
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>>386216
Well hope to see you there
Anonymous
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>>386215
I've never gone to a ponycon, let alone an anime con. I feel like I might be overwhelmed by the tis, my own or others.
Anonymous
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Plushie looks cute though.
Anonymous
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>>386219
Come on anon, you should go to one. They are fun. Everyone else there is as degenerate and mentally ill as the rest so you won’t feel out of place. You’ll be just fine if you go alone and don’t talk to anyone, and it’s very easy to make friends and meet new people.

The next one is Griffish Isles in Manchester in two weeks
https://www.griffishisles.uk/
Anonymous
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>>386222
Yeah, that's ones a bit too short notice for my budget. Also, Manchester. Birmingham in October isn't looking too good either, cause of the bin situation.
Anonymous
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>>386225
Surely the bin strikes must be done by then
Anonymous
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>>386231
Depends really. £6k is quite the pay reduction.
Anonymous
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>>386232
Fair point. Maybe they’ll move have to move the con, if that’s even possible at this point
Anonymous
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>>386233
Should be okay, it's only the binmen employed by the local council that are on strike, rather than private service binmen. Not sure I can justify the £500 hotel room though.
Anonymous
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>>386236
WHAT?! No way it’s that much
Anonymous
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>>386261
That's about standard for 4 days at a reasonably modest hotel. I have found somewhere else £200 cheaper though. I just have expensive tastes I guess?
Anonymous
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>>386270
Fair enough, I was looking at around 200ish (Premier Inn - which for non Anglos is a misleading name)
Anonymous
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>>386215
>UK Ponycon
I went last year. As the first con I've been to it was pretty decent, don't think I'll bother this year because the venue has changed, Nottingham was practically at my doorstep. Griffish isles looks kinda shit, I really wanted to go to camp equestria last year; it was small but looked really cozy. This year I'm saving all my autism for mare fair but if there's another camp equestria I'll definitely be taking my motorhome.
>>386219
Everyone there is somewhat autistic, it's easy to make friends.
Anonymous
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>>386391
>Birmingham is too far
Birmingham is such a tiny distance from Nottingham. The nearest pony convention to me is four hours away. Every single other convention requires getting on a plane. I really wish I had conventions so close.

I was at Camp Equestria last year. It was great. There was a tent where the musicians played, and a fire not far away, where you could sit by the fire and listen to music, or roast marshmellows. There was a hot water dispenser where you could get tea, instant coffee, or cook ramen that I bummed off of people. People also set up a little arcade with games. It was great. I know the organizers. I've asked them repeatedly to make a second one, but they don't seem to want to. At least not until after BronyScot in July 2026, which they will help with.
Anonymous
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No.386435
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morning gentlemen
>Nationalities of foreign criminals to be published
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdjln7zzz8eo
>The six 'silent' cancers quietly surging in men and women... and their subtle symptoms
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-14632737/six-silent-cancers-quietly-surging-men-women-subtle-symptoms.html
>Rachel Reeves drops huge tax bomb on 8.3m Brits - check if you're hit
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/2044672/rachel-reeves-tax-bomb
>Royal Navy ready to defy China in Taiwan Strait
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/04/22/royal-navy-ready-to-face-down-china-over-taiwan/
>Patient satisfaction with GP services in England has collapsed, research finds
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/apr/22/patient-satisfaction-gp-services-england-research
>Parking machines ‘set up to trap people’ as thousands sent tickets
https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/parking-tickets-pcn-fines-carpark-b2736822.html
>Man arrested on suspicion of murder after woman stabbed to death in Enfield over Easter weekend
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/man-arrested-woman-stabbed-death-enfield-easter-b1223472.html
>>386287
seems like a fair deal for a few days
>>386391
thanks for the heads up
Anonymous
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1745316593.mp4 (14.1 MB, Resolution:720x1280 Length:00:02:13, uk meme country toddler transphobic racists.mp4) [play once] [loop]
uk meme country toddler transphobic racists.mp4
Ahh yes, the daily reminder that we all live in a meme country.
Anonymous
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>>386462
>under 18s aren't allowed to smoke or drink because it harms their health
>6 year olds get stuck on puberty blockers because they once said pink was a pretty colour
can still join the army at 16 though
Anonymous
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No.386485
>>386435
Prince of Wales sails today.
Anonymous
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No.386736
>>386474
Dying for Israel is a far nobler calling than being an NHS defecit.
Anonymous
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>>386419
>>Birmingham is too far
True, but it is a shithole. It's early days, I'll consider going especially if anons are up for meeting up.
>Camp Equestria
Oh man sounds like I really missed out, hope they do another one sometime, I know there's a few mlp camps happen in Europe sometimes, I'd be tempted to go if it looked good enough. My concern is being left out while everyone speaks their native tongue.
Anonymous
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>>386794
I’d be happy to do an anon meet up, just gotta raise the cash to go first, but I’m gonna be working all summer (student) so I should have plenty
Anonymous
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>>386871
Sounds interesting, if I still have any cash after Make Fair I will gladly join in other Brit/Euro Anons adventure.
Anonymous
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>>386871
>>386926
I'm interested. I'll probably be skint after marefare but I don't have to pay for fuel so travel costs aren't an issue.
Anonymous
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>>386794
>>387091
Bloody ID keeps changing
Anonymous
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Evening all.
Anonymous
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>>387359
Evenin'
How's it going?
Anonymous
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No.387391
>>387368
Alright I suppose. 4chan is showing slightly more signs of life.
Anonymous
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No.387448
>>386222 imagen not accepting the trans mental illness bleak men would never be woman that a fact. Undestand that faggot.
Anonymous
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Anonymous
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>>387483
greedy niggers, i've never paid and never will
Anonymous
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No.387488
>>387483
>didn't scribble out the QR codes
Anonymous
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>starlink lad is a horsefucker
In other news
>The ridiculous Lord Cashman – once a two-bit player in EastEnders – claimed this week that trans people are fleeing abroad seeking asylum because they’re terrified for their safety after the Supreme Court ruling that said a trans woman isn’t a woman. Really? Can he name these people? I very much doubt it because it’s believed no one has ever fled Britain to successfully claim asylum in another country. Which is probably why Cashman hasn’t been able to provide a jot of evidence to support his ludicrous claim.
>This is just hysterical rhetoric from a bloke who’s upset the Supreme Court didn’t do what he and his cronies at Stonewall wanted it to do. Because Cashman, who apart from his lacklustre stint in EastEnders, is also one of the founders of Stonewall, that insidious pressure group which now is as powerful as any union and has infiltrated every major institution in Britain – and brainwashed it. Except of course the Supreme Court which is probably why he’s throwing his toys out of the pram.
>Stonewall is also the reason countless NHS Trusts have been grovelling to the trans lobby this week, hinting they’ll defy the court ruling and falling over themselves to reiterate their unstinting support for the transgender and non-binary community.
>Pity these trusts haven’t been as vociferous in their support of the biological women in their care who have been degraded, embarrassed, even frightened at having had to share wards, toilets and other private spaces with men who called themselves women. Many were even more frightened by the tsunami of vitriol that came their way if they dared complain.
>These women had every right to be treated with dignity and care on single sex awards but were denied it because of hospitals’ slavish devotion to the trans lobby. They weren’t bigots or transphobes but that’s how our supposed health service made them feel.
>The truth is people like Cashman don’t care about the fear of biological women. They haven’t for one second considered the fear and the humiliation they’ve experienced thanks to them having to share their private spaces with trans women?
>And all these frightened, vulnerable people Cashman and his cronies are talking about, it’s a pity their voices have been drowned out by the aggressive trans mobs that hit London’s streets last week inciting the murder of people who disagreed with their ideology.
>And they’re due to do it all again this weekend
Anonymous
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>>386198
>heatwave in may
Too early in the year for this shit. Fingers crossed it'll at least mean clear skies at night so I can see the moon.
Anonymous
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>>387630
Neighn. Zer vill be clouds.
Anonymous
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>>387623
So now that the Supreme Court has told them what's what, where do they next go? The ECHR? Terrorism?
Anonymous
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No.387657
>>387647
Probably the ECHR
https://www.jewage.org/wiki/en/Profile:P1230425451
Anonymous
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No.387675
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Chief of the Defence Staff being shady with China.

https://order-order.com/2025/04/25/labour-does-not-deny-defence-chief-discussed-chagos-surrender-on-secret-china-visit/
Anonymous
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>>387675
I'd really like to know why we sold Chagos. Sure, it's not a big deal - just another in a long list of small humiliations - but why? What do we get out of this? Less overhead on overseas bases? Better prices on chinkslop?
Anonymous
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No.387678
>>387676
https://brilliantmaps.com/sun-will-finally-set/
TL;DR - It's over
Anonymous
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>>387676
Because we're run by traitors basically.
Anonymous
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No.387686
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>>387685
Pretty much that. Just realised I haven't done the news for the past few days.
Anonymous
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No.387687
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>>387686
Like this >>386435 you mean?

Getting sloppy m8.
Anonymous
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>>387687
Sorry, been having a pretty shitty week. I'll do better.
Anonymous
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>>387688
I do appreciate you doing it.
Anonymous
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>>387689
Thanks lad. Have zigger.
>M&S stops online orders and issues refunds after cyber attack
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdxnkg7rln2o
>Moment 'jealous' married headmaster attacks his love rival deputy with a wrench after believing they BOTH had secret affair with same colleague
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14647813/Moment-married-headteacher-attacks-deputy-affair.html
>UK households urged to stockpile 7 items now before ‘grey zone attack’
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2046510/uk-households-stockpile-7-items
>Starmer to rent homes for Channel migrants
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/04/25/starmer-to-rent-homes-for-migrants/
>EU may accept 12-month work visas for ‘youth experience’ scheme with UK
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/apr/25/eu-may-accept-12-month-work-visas-for-youth-experience-scheme-with-uk
>UK scientists are about to attempt to dim the Sun
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/scientists-experiments-block-sun-b2739518.html
>Two more London primaries to shut this summer as school closure crisis deepens
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/islington-school-closures-st-jude-and-st-pauls-highbury-quadrant-b1224313.html