Seeing as home ownership is basically impossible for young people in the west why not just move to Russia, get some free land, and put a manufactured home on the property? Unlike the western world Russia doesn't have a lot of restrictions on manufactured homes and they are right next to China so you can probably get a manufactured home for a lot cheaper. Should young people in the west just cut their losses and move to Russia?
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>>376808
I don't see why this is so suspicious? I mean a chance to own a home and get away from fags seems like a pretty good deal.
I don't see why this is so suspicious? I mean a chance to own a home and get away from fags seems like a pretty good deal.
>why not move to Russia
I like being able to fly under the radar here in the US, as a foreign national you'd be much more scrutinized
>get some free land
in the middle of assfuck nowhere Siberia? And eat what?
>and put a manufactured home on the property
and run what utilities to it? For the 10 years they last until they fall apart?
This is a retarded idea OP and you are a retard for thinking it
I like being able to fly under the radar here in the US, as a foreign national you'd be much more scrutinized
>get some free land
in the middle of assfuck nowhere Siberia? And eat what?
>and put a manufactured home on the property
and run what utilities to it? For the 10 years they last until they fall apart?
This is a retarded idea OP and you are a retard for thinking it
>>376810
>I like being able to fly under the radar here in the US, as a foreign national you'd be much more scrutinized
Fair, but if there are many immigrants it's not like they will scrutinize all of you. Kind of hard to keep tabs on millions of people.
>in the middle of assfuck nowhere Siberia? And eat what?
Most of the land is on the border of China in the far east for obvious reasons. There are towns nearby where you can work and buy food.
>and run what utilities to it? For the 10 years they last until they fall apart?
Get a septic tank and a generator. Problem solved.
>I like being able to fly under the radar here in the US, as a foreign national you'd be much more scrutinized
Fair, but if there are many immigrants it's not like they will scrutinize all of you. Kind of hard to keep tabs on millions of people.
>in the middle of assfuck nowhere Siberia? And eat what?
Most of the land is on the border of China in the far east for obvious reasons. There are towns nearby where you can work and buy food.
>and run what utilities to it? For the 10 years they last until they fall apart?
Get a septic tank and a generator. Problem solved.
>>376812
>get a septic tank and a generator
>feed the generator off the proceeds from -checks notes- working the rice paddies of rural China
>get a septic tank and a generator
>feed the generator off the proceeds from -checks notes- working the rice paddies of rural China
A few phrases:
You pay for quality
Anytime you don't pay in cash or coin, you pay in other ways
Despise the free lunch, it has been priced in and you are the product for sale
And many more
You pay for quality
Anytime you don't pay in cash or coin, you pay in other ways
Despise the free lunch, it has been priced in and you are the product for sale
And many more
>>376816
>The Law on the Far Eastern Hectare, or the Federal Law of May 1, 2016, No. 119 FL,[1] is a law by Russian President Vladimir Putin to give 1 hectare (2.5 acres) of free land in the Russian Far East to Russian citizens and foreign nationals as long as they live there for five years.
retard
>The Law on the Far Eastern Hectare, or the Federal Law of May 1, 2016, No. 119 FL,[1] is a law by Russian President Vladimir Putin to give 1 hectare (2.5 acres) of free land in the Russian Far East to Russian citizens and foreign nationals as long as they live there for five years.
retard
>>376819
when you have to provide for yourself off that land? What do you, the retard who hasn't been camping in 2 years, do when you have a house in the middle of Siberia that you bought off Aliexpress and the closest town is a 4 hour drive over unimproved roads?
when you have to provide for yourself off that land? What do you, the retard who hasn't been camping in 2 years, do when you have a house in the middle of Siberia that you bought off Aliexpress and the closest town is a 4 hour drive over unimproved roads?
>>376816
6.1 acres is enough to do alot, including zone for low-level industrial operations AND small-grade ranching.
That is, IF a person can relocate to Russia and then acquire the necessary respurces.
It's designed to appeal to a certain level of owner/operator/entrepreneur
6.1 acres is enough to do alot, including zone for low-level industrial operations AND small-grade ranching.
That is, IF a person can relocate to Russia and then acquire the necessary respurces.
It's designed to appeal to a certain level of owner/operator/entrepreneur
>>376823
If you and yours have the cash, I dont doubt that Russia will accommodate. Keep in mind, theyre probably looking for the 7-9 figure crowd
If you and yours have the cash, I dont doubt that Russia will accommodate. Keep in mind, theyre probably looking for the 7-9 figure crowd
>>376824
I think they are just looking to get enough bodies in the far east to deter China from taking the region.
I think they are just looking to get enough bodies in the far east to deter China from taking the region.
Meanwhile, places like Fiji can be luxuriously live in for 5k/month. If you're a fleeing coward, that is
>>376825
2.5 acres is still ~ 2.5 football fields.
Football.
Thats still enough to grow infrastructure.
I think you underestimate the plan. Yes, bodies in regions is part/parcel, but I think this is a move to vie for "a less geographically burdened" wealthy minority
2.5 acres is still ~ 2.5 football fields.
Football.
Thats still enough to grow infrastructure.
I think you underestimate the plan. Yes, bodies in regions is part/parcel, but I think this is a move to vie for "a less geographically burdened" wealthy minority
>>376827
Then why only offer 1 ha per person? It's not like they have a shortage of land either like 220 million ha are up for grabs.
Then why only offer 1 ha per person? It's not like they have a shortage of land either like 220 million ha are up for grabs.
>>376828
Why u asking me? Im just trying to come up with plausible explanations. Idk the details either, but from a strategic sense it makes sense that Russia would offer free gibs to new money
Why u asking me? Im just trying to come up with plausible explanations. Idk the details either, but from a strategic sense it makes sense that Russia would offer free gibs to new money
>>376810
>in the middle of assfuck nowhere Siberia? And eat what?
You're correct, from the videos I've watched of expats, the Russians don't want single metropolitan individuals but married couples with many children, the more, the better.
>in the middle of assfuck nowhere Siberia? And eat what?
You're correct, from the videos I've watched of expats, the Russians don't want single metropolitan individuals but married couples with many children, the more, the better.
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>>376807
>Should young people in the west just cut their losses and move to Russia?
Why don't you try it yourself and tell us how it goes?
>Should young people in the west just cut their losses and move to Russia?
Why don't you try it yourself and tell us how it goes?
>>376829
Seems more likely that Russia is just trying to get bodies in the area. Especially considering that you have to live on the land for 5 years before it is yours.
Seems more likely that Russia is just trying to get bodies in the area. Especially considering that you have to live on the land for 5 years before it is yours.
>>376841
The question then arises: does that mean you have to buy it and then you get paid back in 5 years, or that it is at no cost and at 5 years ownership is transferred?
The answer (the latter?) is irrelevant though, because the demographics of "people who can fuck off halfway across the world - even with (assuming) free housing - and be financially stable on either their own merits or the marketability of any trade/industry/business they are involved in, especially with a growing(?) family" is probably a single-digit percentile.
Yes bodies, but THOSE bodies
The question then arises: does that mean you have to buy it and then you get paid back in 5 years, or that it is at no cost and at 5 years ownership is transferred?
The answer (the latter?) is irrelevant though, because the demographics of "people who can fuck off halfway across the world - even with (assuming) free housing - and be financially stable on either their own merits or the marketability of any trade/industry/business they are involved in, especially with a growing(?) family" is probably a single-digit percentile.
Yes bodies, but THOSE bodies
>>376843
>>376844
Even if there's already a house with a picket fence and a bbq in the backyard, it takes a certain economic bracket to be able to make a transition like that, especially for an offer that was only put on the table 2 minutes ago.
>really depends how much you trust the Russian government
Which is likely correlated to what you're bringing to the table.
Ya know, how immigration is SUPPOSED to fucking work
>>376844
Even if there's already a house with a picket fence and a bbq in the backyard, it takes a certain economic bracket to be able to make a transition like that, especially for an offer that was only put on the table 2 minutes ago.
>really depends how much you trust the Russian government
Which is likely correlated to what you're bringing to the table.
Ya know, how immigration is SUPPOSED to fucking work
>>376844
I mean you could always by land with no strings attached. Not like land in the area is particularly expensive.
I mean you could always by land with no strings attached. Not like land in the area is particularly expensive.
>>376845
>it takes a certain economic bracket to be able to make a transition like that
This.
Emigration/Immigration has a cost.
Applying for citizenship and passing tests has a cost.
Learning to speak Russian has a cost (in time).
Getting a new job in another country, in a region where there are few jobs, has a cost.
Moving has a cost.
Building a new home has a cost.
Installing utilities has a cost.
Adjusting to a new culture has a cost.
Developing land that native Russians can't be bothered to live on has a cost.
Getting on the good side of the state so they don't still see you as a foreign agent after the 5 year period has a cost.
All of these factors have a cost, many of which can be expressed in dollar amounts, and others that can only be weighed in spent time, effort and stress. Consider all of that and compare it to the cost of buying a home in rural America.
>>376846
Wasn't the point of the endeavor the free land?
If you buy the land, why in Russia?
There's no shortage of cheap homesteads in remote, barely-hospitable places, even in America. Do it in Alaska and you could get the same biome without changing countries.
>it takes a certain economic bracket to be able to make a transition like that
This.
Emigration/Immigration has a cost.
Applying for citizenship and passing tests has a cost.
Learning to speak Russian has a cost (in time).
Getting a new job in another country, in a region where there are few jobs, has a cost.
Moving has a cost.
Building a new home has a cost.
Installing utilities has a cost.
Adjusting to a new culture has a cost.
Developing land that native Russians can't be bothered to live on has a cost.
Getting on the good side of the state so they don't still see you as a foreign agent after the 5 year period has a cost.
All of these factors have a cost, many of which can be expressed in dollar amounts, and others that can only be weighed in spent time, effort and stress. Consider all of that and compare it to the cost of buying a home in rural America.
>>376846
Wasn't the point of the endeavor the free land?
If you buy the land, why in Russia?
There's no shortage of cheap homesteads in remote, barely-hospitable places, even in America. Do it in Alaska and you could get the same biome without changing countries.
>>376848
All kinds of horror stories in the US about people being kicked out of their homes because of some bullshit regulation. Russia doesn't have these same regulations on housing.
All kinds of horror stories in the US about people being kicked out of their homes because of some bullshit regulation. Russia doesn't have these same regulations on housing.
>>376849
You might want to look at Russian history a bit more closely.
But if that's really what you want, I encourage you to try. Keep us posted.
You might want to look at Russian history a bit more closely.
But if that's really what you want, I encourage you to try. Keep us posted.
>>376849
That's more of a reflection of the lack of literacy as pertains to property and rights, specfically the details surroundig a Deed of Ownership versus a Certificate of Title.
That's more of a reflection of the lack of literacy as pertains to property and rights, specfically the details surroundig a Deed of Ownership versus a Certificate of Title.
With all this said
>free land in exchange for a viable 5-year commitment
might be inticing here in a couple of months, depending on what kind of shenanigans happen surrounding the election,....
>free land in exchange for a viable 5-year commitment
might be inticing here in a couple of months, depending on what kind of shenanigans happen surrounding the election,....
Final thought:
While comprehensible that such an offer might be appealing to some (and full disclosure, Im not in the bracket that could 'qualify' for such a migration, so you COULD say "sour grapes") it strikes as cowardise.
1. It seems readily apparent that the front-line of the cultural/spiritual war is and will be the United States.
2. Every person of spiritual/metaphysical/religious Authority has an obligation to their Creator/Creation to participate in this struggle.
It is comprehensible/debatable that a person/family might view migration as their best role in this especially depending on them an their religion, tradition, or relationship with their Creator/Creation, that seems inaccurate and biased toward worldly pursuits.
While comprehensible that such an offer might be appealing to some (and full disclosure, Im not in the bracket that could 'qualify' for such a migration, so you COULD say "sour grapes") it strikes as cowardise.
1. It seems readily apparent that the front-line of the cultural/spiritual war is and will be the United States.
2. Every person of spiritual/metaphysical/religious Authority has an obligation to their Creator/Creation to participate in this struggle.
It is comprehensible/debatable that a person/family might view migration as their best role in this especially depending on them an their religion, tradition, or relationship with their Creator/Creation, that seems inaccurate and biased toward worldly pursuits.
>>376853
I'll be honest with you, what I want most in life is a family, a house, and a little land. I'm probably not going to get that in the US. I've also been pretty black pilled on the situation in the US. I don't think the right is going to win here. Every year our number decline and the left's numbers increase. When the left has the numerical advantage they will do everything they can to hurt and humiliate white people. You think things are bad now? Wait until 15 million illegals become citizens and all faithfully vote Democrat. The US will become a uniparty state and they will go full steam ahead on "progress." While life in Russia certainly won't be paradise it's better than ending up in a mass grave.
I'll be honest with you, what I want most in life is a family, a house, and a little land. I'm probably not going to get that in the US. I've also been pretty black pilled on the situation in the US. I don't think the right is going to win here. Every year our number decline and the left's numbers increase. When the left has the numerical advantage they will do everything they can to hurt and humiliate white people. You think things are bad now? Wait until 15 million illegals become citizens and all faithfully vote Democrat. The US will become a uniparty state and they will go full steam ahead on "progress." While life in Russia certainly won't be paradise it's better than ending up in a mass grave.
The Russians did this before to get rid of the Jews
Do you really want to be treated like a Jew?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Autonomous_Oblast
Do you really want to be treated like a Jew?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Autonomous_Oblast
>>376854
>I've also been pretty black pilled on the situation in the US
Hard not to be, if you're paying attention
>a family, a house, and a little land. I'm probably not going to get that in the US
Conventionally (like, through a bank or a realtor or some shit) you're probably right, which is why you might consider unconventional methods. A couple questions:
1. Are you in/around a major urban center, and if so why?
The more urban the environment, the more predominanly bank-owned the surrounding property, and the harder it is to get a Deeded property.
2. Are you hoping for a white house with a picket fence, or are you willing to take what you can get? Better question, are you willing to build it yourself?
Bare land is cheaper than land with existing structures, plumbing, etc., and it's WAY cheaper if the land is overgrown and requiring service (anywhere from 3-5k/acre, as of 2018, depending on area).
3. How creative ARE you?
In certain rural areas, you can find dozens of people considered "middle class" who have inherited/acquired hundreds of acres. How valuable can you prove to be to one or more such individuals, to the effect of their willigness to pay a resurvey and sell you an acre or two?
>I've also been pretty black pilled on the situation in the US
Hard not to be, if you're paying attention
>a family, a house, and a little land. I'm probably not going to get that in the US
Conventionally (like, through a bank or a realtor or some shit) you're probably right, which is why you might consider unconventional methods. A couple questions:
1. Are you in/around a major urban center, and if so why?
The more urban the environment, the more predominanly bank-owned the surrounding property, and the harder it is to get a Deeded property.
2. Are you hoping for a white house with a picket fence, or are you willing to take what you can get? Better question, are you willing to build it yourself?
Bare land is cheaper than land with existing structures, plumbing, etc., and it's WAY cheaper if the land is overgrown and requiring service (anywhere from 3-5k/acre, as of 2018, depending on area).
3. How creative ARE you?
In certain rural areas, you can find dozens of people considered "middle class" who have inherited/acquired hundreds of acres. How valuable can you prove to be to one or more such individuals, to the effect of their willigness to pay a resurvey and sell you an acre or two?
Or if you're REALLY desperate, you might consider networking with random anons on fascistic equine finger-painting boards who already have deeded land,.... Jus sayin'
>>376857
>hey anon can I live on your property my skills include jacking off 23 hours a day and posting about a cartoon that ended half a decade ago
>hey anon can I live on your property my skills include jacking off 23 hours a day and posting about a cartoon that ended half a decade ago
>>376858
There could also be an option to buy a chunk, but it would depend entirely on the person. Unironically tho, that is a possibly viable proposition. As an (ahem) allegorical example, one 'might' find that a distressed and unemployed military vet is ALSO an amazingly reliable financial manager. Allegorically speaking, of course.
There could also be an option to buy a chunk, but it would depend entirely on the person. Unironically tho, that is a possibly viable proposition. As an (ahem) allegorical example, one 'might' find that a distressed and unemployed military vet is ALSO an amazingly reliable financial manager. Allegorically speaking, of course.
This is important
What Putin is offering is already do-able, in the US, except you arent appealing to the russian govt, you'd instead be appealing to households/families, generational businesses, resourced individuals, or half-crazy ppl.
What Putin is offering is already do-able, in the US, except you arent appealing to the russian govt, you'd instead be appealing to households/families, generational businesses, resourced individuals, or half-crazy ppl.
One assumes it would be cheaper to arrange something locally than to migrate intercontinentally
But yes, this reeks of being a Russian "wealthy, disenfranchised American" trap
>>376864
You might be surprised. Outside of large-scale industrial (usually meaning 100'+) and hazardous/regulated material, you generally don't need permits for shit that's non-commercial and outside city limits (again, depending on location)
You might be surprised. Outside of large-scale industrial (usually meaning 100'+) and hazardous/regulated material, you generally don't need permits for shit that's non-commercial and outside city limits (again, depending on location)
Ive made arrangements
Im obnoxious enough
Im obnoxious enough
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