/vx/ - Videogames and Paranormal

>>173275
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So in conclusion, while postmodernism encourages critical thinking and diversity of perspectives, it caused the absolute opposite, valorizing the discourse of the cretins, or manipulators passing as simple people, because people have empathy and identifies as low class, seeing the educated high class as the privileged, the enemy, the nerd is hated for these reasons. Where postmodernism should have emphasized individualism, it is the framework of social-liberalism, and class warfare. Yep, you fit the absolute definition of a delusional wokeist/SJW. And knowing you're wrong, but echoing anti-facts will not change reality, never. (>You) are literally being influenced by your enemy, the enemy who wants your destruction and you offer our enemy everything you wanted.

<‘‘If it can be destroyed by truth, it must be.’’

>>173267
Of course, you didn't want the enemy to know anything developed for your security, ensuring deterrence because, you know; nukes are scary, hello! NASA was based during this era, created thanks to DEUTSCHE TECHNOLOGIE literal nazis, with in the mind of burying commies, physically or ideologically. You have to keep a LOT of things top secret, not everything NASA published on rocket design are open source, same about moon missions, they are not retarded. Northrop, Boeing, Douglas all keep their industrial secrets. Discoveries are the trophies of this work and you want them published, that's the game. You should be okay with that if you are an US citizen just like I hate it when Macron sells our technology to our enemies (Yes you too) Anyways, Space exploration remains the gigachad move of white race and must go on.

>>173278
NASA isn't just one guy and exists since the 50's, a 1960's guy who worked on Project Mercury would punch the shit out of a current NASA guy. Also your logic is biased, kill yourself.

>>173279
>NASA isnt just one guy
did you just recently discover what "institution" or "corporation" means? I dont think anyone here ever claimed "NASA is one guy". maybe you need to lurk a few more years to gain some common sense

>>173270
No. I'm not calling a goddamn 1-800 number that links to God only knows what, probably some kind of weird phone-sex line for insane schizos. I want YOU to answer my very simple question. A conspiracy on the scale of what you're proposing would be extraordinarily expensive and complicated to pull off. I want to know what you think the purpose of such an endeavor would be. Because I do not see how anyone involved in such a conspiracy could possibly benefit from it, let alone benefit greatly enough that it would justify the effort. Surely you at least have an opinion?

>>173274
Pretty much what this anon says.

>>173277
>>conspiracy cant happen at this magnitude
That's not what I said. I said it's logistically implausible and that it's an absurd amount of trouble, so it requires a very, very, very strong motive.
>you can say the same thing about holocaust and holocaust museums
This is much easier to pull off. A museum is not hard to build.
Also, Jews have an actual motive to promote the holohoax and to go through that trouble to make people believe it.
>if trillions of inflated dollars can be printed out of nothing but usury and finance, then logistical efficiencies can be nullified
It's not about the money, it's about the effort. What you suggest takes billions of people coordinating im lockstep and devoting absurd sums of their lives to doing this.

What's their motive to jump through all of these hoops and do all of this hard work?
>>173278
>NASA cant use consistent models
Yes they do.
>occams razor says the less complex an explanation is the more likely it is to be true
By that logic, Occam's razor says that there is no absurdly complex and logistically-nightmarish conspiracy in >>173274 and that it is what it is at face value.

The most important point was that they answer questions, a point that you have ignored like many others.

>>173280
>maybe you need to lurk a few more years to gain some common sense
He's been here since the first week of /mlpol/, unlike you.
You never lurked, despite everyone telling you, you massive hypocrite.

>>173282
total kike debate tactic used here. nice semantic argument, but i just told you that statistical inefficiencies are nullified, theyre not a slam dunk like you believe them to be
>museums are east to build
space and curvature is easy to fake. just use CGI, greenscreen pools, and fish eye lenses
>Its about the effort
effort is made to incentive, incentive is made through money, money gets wasted all the time by government and is getting further and further devalued
>the complex lies prove that its too complex to be faked!
you arent saying anything here. in order to cover up a simple truth, you need a stack of reinforcing and over-arching complex lies. thats what flat earthers have been saying this whole time, and have been correctly pointing out. The flat earth positive claim on what the earth is, is the more simple one, relative to the cartoon spinning globe claim. the globers dont have a simple explanation for a simple claim, its not our job for us to deconstruct all their made up lies, its their job to stop being complicated pricks

>>173272
lol. Honestly, you've got nerve accusing anyone of going off topic. Literally 2/3 of this thread is just you deflecting or dumping stupid memes every time someone backs you into a corner or calls you out on your bullshit.

>>173277
>more deflection
We're not talking about the goddamn holocaust. Honestly, faking the holocaust would be less complicated than faking the shape of the earth in an age where air and space travel are technologically possible. And, as the other anon pointed out, there is actually a reason why someone would want to fake the holocaust. The holohoax is nothing but a few fake chimneys appended to some old buildings, and some exaggerated death statistics in wartime.

All I want to know is the answer to one very simple question: if the earth is actually flat, and there is a massive, complex conspiracy designed to keep the average person in the dark about this, then why does this conspiracy exist? Who benefits, and how? This would be a ridiculously complicated project to pull off, and no matter how I look at it, I can't see any benefit in it for literally anyone. Certainly nothing that justifies the absurd herculean effort.

>>173284
*logistical inefficiencies, not statistical

>>173285
>why the lie
you guys just keep asking the same shit over and over, when it was answered the first time
if were just a cosmic accident in the satanic model of space and floating planets, then i have severly less significance and relationship with the creator. i have less reason to fear sin. ALL OF THIS in the flat earth conspiracy lines of perfectly well with everything else going on. the lie of evolution, the lie of nuclear weapons, the lie of nihilism, the romantization with all of secular history.
Satan works by sucking energy out of other people, God wants all to feel his love and energy. Satan wants people to be globers so he can feed on their energy. thats why organizations and states are built on lies

>>173284
>total kike debate tactic
Said the bigger to the kettle.
>statistical inefficiencies are nullified
I disagree.
It was you who invoked Occam's razor: The absurdly complex logistics of such a conspiracy are evidence to the contrary using the very same logic you used.
>theyre not a slam dunk like you believe them to be
That is true, but you should still address it if you want people to believe you.
Why would they do this?
>effort is made to incentive, incentive is made through money, money gets wasted all the time by government and is getting further and further devalued
That doesn't mean it's a fuckton of trouble to manage and organize. It would go r the people in power a huge headache.
So what's their motive for this headache?
>>>the complex lies prove that its too complex to be faked!
I didn't say that. I used the same logic you invoked to refute the central point of your argument. Occam's Razor has its flaws, and I certainly wouldn't use it as proof for anything.
>in order to cover up a simple truth, you need a stack of reinforcing and over-arching complex lies.
So why do they want to do that?
>The flat earth positive claim on what the earth is, is the more simple one
I disagree. The concept of space and planets is rather simple, as it's just the wider application of very basic universal forces.
>the globers dont have a simple explanation for a simple claim
"Our earth is a planet in space."
There's your simple explanation. You can ask questions if you want more details.
>its not our job for us to deconstruct all their made up lies
You said in the OP that the purpose of the thread is to debunk the lies.
>its their job to stop being complicated pricks
They're pricks because their explanations are complicated? They're scientists, not preschool teachers.
When they give simple explanations, people ask for more details, and so they do their best to provide those details because that's their job.
And you're still avoiding the question: why would they do all of this? What's the motive?

>>173287
>satanic model of space and floating planets
>the lie of evolution
>the lie of nuclear weapons
>Satan works by sucking energy out of other people
>Satan wants people to be globers so he can feed on their energy

So in other words you don't actually have an answer, this is just some unhinged religious bullshit?

>>173287
>if were just a cosmic accident
The concept of the earth being round doesn't mean the universe couldn't have been intelligently designed.
>then i have severly less significance and relationship with the creator
Oh, I see how it is
Size = importance to you
You feel intimidated by the idea of an enormous universe because it makes you feel unimportant, instead of marvelling at the astronomical scale of God's creation, the scale of God's power, and feeling greatful that you can bear witness to such glory. Is your faith really so weak that you would give up on God just because the world is round?
You are a human. You are God's most intelligent creature: you are the sole creature that can look upon the universe and see it's beauty. For that reason, human life and what we do with it is the most important thing in the universe.
All of the other planets that scientists have observed? Lifeless desert shitholes. This is the most important place, no matter how vast God's creation is.
The majority of people in the world still believe in God despite believing that the world is round.
Pic related
>i have less reason to fear sin.
God is all-knowing. No matter how huge the universe is, you'll still be before him on judgement day, and he'll know all of your sins.
>ALL OF THIS in the flat earth conspiracy lines of perfectly well with everything else going on. the lie of evolution, the lie of nuclear weapons, the lie of nihilism, the romantization with all of secular history.
Most people who disbelieve those things don't believe the earth is flat, so flat earth can't be the basis for that belief.
>Satan works by sucking energy out of other people, God wants all to feel his love and energy. Satan wants people to be globers so he can feed on their energy.
Satan doesn't actually gain anything from it: he just wants people to be godless losers like him because misery loves company. He's a tranny faggot with daddy issues, and he spends his days trying to tempt people and trick them into surrender because that's all he can do. He's an illiterate retard who refuses to read the Bible and he's going to get incinerated in the end of days.

>>173288
>It was you who invoked Occam's razor: The absurdly complex logistics of such a conspiracy are evidence to the contrary using the very same logic you used.
im not the one who appeals to complexity arguments, that would be globers that do.
>you should still address it
i did
>its a headache
not really, there are liars and then there are fools who work for liars. no headaches required
>I didn't say that. I used the same logic you invoked to refute the central point of your argument. Occam's Razor has its flaws, and I certainly wouldn't use it as proof for anything.
Im not claiming the globe position of complex reinforcing and over-arching lies. so occams razor doesnt apply to me. im pointing out occams razor on the globers side. if you have a problem with occams razor logic, then you should point out how it doesnt apply or logically fit
>"Our earth is a planet in space."
you havent yet defined or shown tangible evidence for planets or space existing. too many complex variables youre still working with
>Theyre scientists
science doesnt require complex explanations from scientists. science is a way of understanding the physical world through physical experiment. you do what works, then you verify it that it works

>>173290
the satanic model is still okay as long as youre Christian!
no its not. the same model you claim "doesnt prevent faith" is also the one atheists froth from the mouth over and worship. Sorry but im not gonna go along the imaginations of jesuits just because all the soft fake "Christians" around the world do.
>Most people who disbelieve those things don't believe the earth is flat, so flat earth can't be the basis for that belief.
and EVERYONE who is a flat earther disbelieves those things, its almost like we have a consistent solid foundation for our beliefs unlike globers
>Satan just wants you to be Godless
yes, so he can suck away your energy. thats what he has to gain by you being a glober aswell, along with all the other psyop lies

>>173291
>im not the one who appeals to complexity arguments, that would be globers that do
It was literally you who brought up Occam's razor: that is an appeal to complexity.
>not really, there are liars and then there are fools who work for liars. no headaches required
Nigger, even managing a production warehouse is hard. Don't act like organizing such a conspiracy isn't a fuckton of trouble.
>so occams razor doesnt apply to me.
Then why did you bring it up? Logic goes both ways.
>im pointing out occams razor on the globers side.
>"Rules for thee, but not for me".
You are like a child.
>if you have a problem with occams razor logic, then you should point out how it doesnt apply or logically fit
I just did.
>you havent yet defined or shown tangible evidence for planets or space existing.
Nothing to do with the simplicity of the statement.
>too many complex variables youre still working with
I could ask you the same sorts of questions about firmaments, how objects fall, or how tides work. It gets more complex depending on what questions you ask.
>science doesnt require complex explanations from scientists.
This is true. People ask for complexity because they want greater detail. It can get infinitely complex depending on the level of detail.
>science is a way of understanding the physical world through physical experiment
Yes.
>you do what works, then you verify it that it works
Indeed.

>>173292
>the satanic model is still okay as long as youre Christian!
Nobody said that.
>the same model you claim "doesnt prevent faith" is also the one atheists froth from the mouth over and worship
Who cares what atheists think?
Besides, there are atheist flat earthers, even in this thread.
>Sorry but im not gonna go along the imaginations of jesuits just because all the soft fake "Christians" around the world do.
That wasn't the point.
The point was that nothing about the universe being huge makes you any less important, because earth is where humanity is.
>and EVERYONE who is a flat earther disbelieves those things
No. The other flat earther in this thread said he was an atheist.
>its almost like we have a consistent solid foundation for our beliefs unlike globers
Lol. Lmao even.
>so he can suck away your energy
Quote the passage in the Bible where it says this.
The Satan you describe is the romanticized Satan of pop culture. Satan irl is a powerless loser.

>>173292
I don't know, man. Heavy metal bands all worship satan, and they seem pretty on the ball.

>>173292
>satanic model
>look up first flat earth model
>flat earth was first thought up by ancient Babylon
did you verify the meme yourself? if not then how can you claim its real? youre obviously appealing to your own authority, and CGI is the only thing it can be. not real = therefore fake, and must be CGI
You never debated in good faith, dishonesty is you brand.

>>173293
>It was literally you who brought up Occam's razor: that is an appeal to complexity.
yes, my point was that globers cant appeal to complexity and logistics for their position. I dont hold those claims, they do
>Nigger, even managing a production warehouse is hard. Don't act like organizing such a conspiracy isn't a fuckton of trouble.
there are flat earthers that work for NASA, they just stay quite and busy. NASA is in trouble, thats why Elon Musk is there to preserve the narrative. but dont you think he caused himself enough trouble by saying "you can tell its real because it looks so fake"?
>Then why did you bring it up?
globers suffer by occams razor logic
>Nothing to do with the simplicity of the statement.
it has everything to do with it you mouthbreather. saying bullshit in a simple sentence doesnt validate the bullshit youre saying
>I could ask you the same sorts of questions about firmaments, how objects fall, or how tides work. It gets more complex depending on what questions you ask.
and the answers turned out to be more simple than your cosmic big bang and floating plants

>>173294
>Nobody said that
more semantics, obviously you know what I meant. but this is typical glownigger tactic used to waste time so i would recommend you stop
>Besides, there are atheist flat earthers, even in this thread.
because when you break it all the way down, the atheists are being honest with themselves, cant tangibly verify curvature nor the 3959 mile radius. but no one said flat earth is the end of the human awakening, its just a very large and important piece. my only hope is that the atheist flat earthers will eventually come to know God, their awakening still needa work to do
>No. The other flat earther in this thread said he was an atheist.
you can still be an atheist and be flat earther, reject nihilism, nuke hoax, etc. doesnt mean much.
>Quote the passage in the Bible where it says this.
The Satan you describe is the romanticized Satan of pop culture. Satan irl is a powerless loser.
LMAO sorry but im not a sola scriptura protestant. no shit Satan is powerless, people CHOOSE to give in their power to him

>>173290
Thank you based chad.
And no, we can't be an accident. Tired of seeing these ‘‘Look at the universe, we are tiny in proportion! Muh pale blue dot! We are a dust’’
And God's like ’‘‘Look at the galaxy you have to explore, Anon! The purpose of life itself is to expand’’.

If anything, these anti-science beings are satanists. And this is why the leftroons are playing with this psyop too. They hate the idea that humans may find God, or even another species, who knows, with the same motives. ‘‘Because we believe in a supreme being, we did this absurd thing, sitting on a rocket and leave our planet, and explore the universe and here we are!’’

>>173297
>globers cant appeal to complexity and logistics for their position
We only referred to logistics to demonstrate the need for a motive. It was "why would someone do all of that work?"
>I dont hold those claims, they do
Don't bring up philosophical theorems like Occam's Razor if you don't want them to be applied to you as well.
Logic goes both ways.
>NASA is in trouble
It's only in trouble because after the Cold War ended, the government stopped funding it, because they didn't need it to develop more ICBM technology.
>thats why Elon Musk is there
He's part of the trend towards privatization of space tech.
>globers suffer by occams razor logic
Do you believe it, or do you not? If you believe it, it should apply to claims you make as well.
>saying bullshit in a simple sentence doesnt validate the bullshit youre saying
The same thing applies to your claim.
>and the answers turned out to be more simple than your cosmic big bang and floating plants
Tides working with gravity (simple law that objects attract) and space (place with lack of air; air getting thinner as you go higher until there's nothing left) being large are quite simple concepts, simpler than the explanations you gave for tides.
>more semantics, obviously you know what I meant
You misrepresented my point to make it seem easier to refute: the definition of a strawman.
>because when you break it all the way down, the atheists are being honest with themselves
So atheists supporting flat earth support your claim that the globe model is satanic, but Christians supporting round earth doesn't support that the globe model isn't satanic?
Double standards.
>you can still be an atheist and be flat earther, reject nihilism, nuke hoax, etc. doesnt mean much
Exactly.
Believing in flat earth doesn't mean you can't be an atheist, so there's no real motive to make people think the earth is flat when they could make them atheists by simpler means.
>but im not a sola scriptura protestant
So you're saying you made it up then? You made up a thing about Satan that isn't from Scripture or part of Christian history/theology.
If you're not protestant, what are you? A Catholic? An Eastern Orthodox? The non-protestant denominations all believe that the earth is round, so I can only assume that you're a protestant. Reading the book is generally considered to be an important part of being a protestant.
That aside, why should I take your opinion of "sucking energy" as gospel if it's not even backed by scripture?
>people CHOOSE to give in their power to him
He will never be powerful. People don't give him anything; he just convinces them to surrender their souls and be miserable like him, and he only does so because he's jealous of them and wants to drag them down to his level.

>>173297
>God can't do that it's too complex!
It gets more complex.
>my only hope is that the atheist flat earthers will eventually come to know God
Coming to know God isn't about how flat you think it's about His Son.
Did He ever say you must know the world before you can know me? No, He didn't say that.
>Satan
He's a nothing burger.
>B-but gaining powah!?
That's not how this works, nigger.
You confidently talk with God. You do everything with Him, the question is do you want Him to participate?
>Where's Satan?
Crying in his cuck shed. You think God is going to let a tiny being like Satan ruin His time with His creations?
>Muh flatearth!
Maybe you should spend some more time with God, I recommend actively acknowledging Him and being thankful. He's where you find wisdom and Truth.

I was thinking that I'd let thread cool off before I answered this. But appearently, there are some new faces here that think they will put and end to this thread by disproving it once and for all. It has been three years. No one will convince anyone here of anything. Nor is there camera man capturing all of this. We can calm down.

>>172616
I'm sry if I came off as rude btw but then again u called me stupid so, i guess we're even. On a tangent, this is why I try to use the word, "foolish" instead of "stupid" in my speech these days cause neither of you and I are stupid but we clearly disagree.

>Two: Why exactly?
I think that is the wrong approach to the question. I you found a man A with a bloodied knife and lying man next to him, B, that in murdered by by stab wounds, you would assume that A murdered B by stabbing him to death. But let's say you're a detective and you're detective but for the life of you, you can't figure out A's motive for doing this, so you simple let him go, and you declare the murder didn't happen because because A has no motive. (Taking it to the absurd to make a point. I'm not trying to insult you here.)

So, just because I don't know the motive for why this elite does this, doesn't mean one can't observe inconsistencies with a narrative that drives one to contrary position.

If you'd indulged me, assume for a minute that the earth is in fact flat. Just for a brief period. Okay, so the the earth is flat then why do you think authorities go through such length to hide it?

I'm pretty sure that despite yourself, you will come up with interesting speculations to this. That's what I have, I have speculations on the reasoning why they hide it if flat earth turns out to be true, which I believe but don't know enough to guarantee it.

>>173301
>But let's say you're a detective and you're detective but for the life of you, you can't figure out A's motive for doing this, so you simple let him go, and you declare the murder didn't happen because because A has no motive. (Taking it to the absurd to make a point. I'm not trying to insult you here.)
This happens in court all of the time. You need s motive to convict someone.

>>173302
Can any baller prove the curve? I mean with modern independent data not coming from zog?

>>173279
Okay you know I'm asking around trying to get whatever this is about, boy you're messing with my head with this whole postmodern thing but we all got to be questioning authority you know, but maybe you know I don't know and I prefer to believe what I see.
Anyway Im still figuring things out still gotta keep in mind to doubt all the stuff you read and watch from start, why you think you were influenced by? Have you learned stuff that were also BS in school or college?
Big thing is it's not again about the shape of earth but how to react to things that are commonly accepted, I don't check if earth is flat or not it won't change my life, I keep living my life and going on, but it's about making you think.

>>173303
We did with the Jakarta-Bogota flights.

>>173304
>Big thing is it's not again about the shape of earth
The subject of the thread is the shape of the earth.
>how to react to things that are commonly accepted
We do that all over this site.
> I don't check if earth is flat or not
Again, subject of the thread.
>but it's about making you think.
That would be cool if the Facebook boomer were actually a fulfilling debate partner, and not just an asinine spammer who makes crappy arguments and avoids answering questions.

>>173306
>asinine spammer who makes crappy arguments and avoids answering questions
Proof the curve.

>>173301
>A conspiracy so vast, so effective, so overwhelming, so well put together, so loyal, so unified, so large of resources, so many many different people.
<and they don't do that with everything else competently with all those resources
Why keep up the farce?
Why not stamp it all out with their vast resources, manpower and technology?
If they could make up a whole planet being as it is, they could for sure frame some small group and just wack 'em or put them in a cell or disappear them.
They have enough of everything to do that, but let some random person with a camera take an easy to access picture that rips all the quadrillions of cash, manpower, time and effort totally.
And they didn't sabotage the camera and that manufacturer either?
They're so competent, united and powerful they just aren't any of that?
They just let some people who have some evidence of the lie that hides the greatest mcguffin (plot device).
People who technically could find out about it, but don't.
People who could go deep undercover to find it, but don't.
They let videos and books and posts and people try to figure it out, and the biggest conspiracy is also hyper super competent with tentacles in everything everywhere.
But nobody even has a clue why they're doing it and all speculation seems to fall short.
Even with people on the inside.
None of them ever making a mistake about showing what the mcguffin is? None of them ever cocky enough to spill?
They're putting up only token resistance despite how entrenched they are in everything?
Instead they're just fucking it up in all other areas, but not the mcguffin?

Let's say it's just the nature of the place everyone lives. They do all that and can stamp out anyone, but don't. Because it's funny?
Despite anyone being able to find out.
Despite telling people.
They don't do anything?
It's just all of them fucking about with some people who figured it all out, because that's how multiple gorillions of money and resources and manpower is best used.
>But they could lie about other stuff.
They could according to the whole web of intrigue here just wipe out all flat believers. Or any number of things they could actually do, all they do is constantly and consistently say muh globe.
And nothing else?
That's it?
For no reason?
They just waste all that manpower, money, resources, competency, political power and connections for no reason?
>There's probably a reason.
That they don't do any of the more effective things.
As in this whole flat scheme is a deliberate key component for them to have in some way?
Because why else are you left to roam in the wild?

>>173307
Proooooooooooooooooof

>>173307
Draw the Jarkarta-Bogota flight paths on a flat earth map, and show how they could possibly be the same distance on a circle instead of a sphere.
You can't? Then that is the proof.

>>173310
I have to check that. That said and back to the missing curvature, where is the curve?

>>173311
Draw the lines, and you'll see that the curve is the only plausible solution.

>>173312
Do you have a pic?

>>173313
Several. Scroll up.

>>173313
Here's just one example
>>172855
>>173314
I'm sick of them squirming away. I've spoonfed them so there's no excuse about how hard it is to look back.

>>173299
>Don't bring up philosophical theorems like Occam's Razor if you don't want them to be applied to you as well.
it never applied to me though, try again. "they cant fake everything" is not a rebuttal. you made the presumption that logistics is sound evidence, you need to back it up.
>So atheists supporting flat earth support your claim that the globe model is satanic, but Christians supporting round earth doesn't support that the globe model isn't satanic?
Its sad that I have to even explain this. Who cares about who calls themselves "Christian"? nothing special in that argument. most Christians believe in all sorts of deceptions. There just seems to be a extreme correlation between scienceTM approved cosmology and having a higher percentage of atheism in a society. dont think its a coincidence. of course, I grant that many flat earthers and Christians both believe in insane things. who cares
>So atheists supporting flat earth support your claim that the globe model is satanic, but Christians supporting round earth doesn't support that the globe model isn't satanic?
no. imagine being this light switch brained. never did I say atheists claim that. but they believe flat earth for other reason, such as observational evidence. both religion and evidence are good reasons to believe flat earth, for some not all
>
He will never be powerful. People don't give him anything; he just convinces them to surrender their souls and be miserable like him, and he only does so because he's jealous of them and wants to drag them down to his level.
everytime you commit a sin you do a deal with the devil, can you tell us when the last time you sinned was? also youre rhetoric makes zero sense, people dont give their souls to satan, but they "surrender" their souls? what does that even mean lul

>>173300
Ill ask this another time. everytime you sin you do a deal with the devil. can you tell us when was the last time you sinned?

>>173317
>>173316
>Muh Satan always has ur sole.
Did you not read that nothing can ever take away from God's grasp?
>When sinned last?
I'm not Jesus despite He who lives in me, it's likely I'll keep on fucking up.
Do you understand why His victory is so total and complete?
Do you not know you live in a totally new way of living that's not being under the Law?
>but muh Satan?
What about him? Satan's a bitch ass pansy.
>deal with Satan
Haha, no that's not how that works. Could a person actually attempt making a deal, kinda. But why would you? When you actually understand who God said you are why would you try taking a bad deal with that cunt?
Sin is transgressing God's immutable law. Transgressing means you violated the Law criminal scum.
Notice Satan is just trying to convince you to break rules because he doesn't like you.
You could even say he's a nudger.
God knowing Satan is going to nudge and tempt and fuck around, had the find out.
That is something even greater than the rule of God's Law. The Laws which Satan was using to nudge retards into breaking.
>But muh deal with debil!
No dice, it's about which spirit is inside of you. It's either God or something else or nothing. Something else can easily enter an empty undefended house.
>But muh sin?
Did you talk with Jesus or The Holy Ghost or Our Father?
Or are you kind of just saying shit? If you are I'll have you know I'm well versed in this topic you're trying to claim superiority on and more importantly The Comforter who shows God's Mind. So then it wouldn't be me who succeeds it's Him.
Are you sure?

>>173316
>"they cant fake everything" is not a rebuttal.
Nobody said they couldn't. We only said they had no motive to do something so difficult.
>it never applied to me though
If it applies to anyone, it applies to you too.
>Who cares about who calls themselves "Christian"?
Then what makes you an authority on who is a good Christian? You've been making up heretical non-canon nonsense about "sucking energy"; you're none to judge others for their faith just because the idea of the universe being vast makes you feel small.
>There just seems to be a extreme correlation between scienceTM approved cosmology and having a higher percentage of atheism in a society. dont think its a coincidence.
Correlation =/= causation
Basic statistics.
>people dont give their souls to satan
I didn't say that.
>they "surrender" their souls?
To turn away from God and face damnation with Satan is surrender. Satan's whole gig is trying to trick you into making the wrong choice, so you can burn with him.
>can you tell us when the last time you sinned was?
Yes, I can.

>>173318
>completely avoids the question
youre the one claiming Satan has no power. hes a fallen angel after all, and has thousands of years of knowlege and wisdom
>>173319
>Then what makes you an authority on who is a good Christian? You've been making up heretical non-canon nonsense about "sucking energy"; you're none to judge others for their faith just because the idea of the universe being vast makes you feel small.
this is a flat earth thread not a Christian thread. but you first define what you mean by "good christian". also you dont know what heretical means
>Correlation =/= causation
reddit moment. there are both correlation and causation. you are illiterate and dont know what those mean

>>173320
>Thousands of year to attempt to be God.
>Whiffs it.
>God wins, but Satan try's to scramble together a response.
>Fucks up and fails.
Wooow, a being who is more like a very loud multitone calculator that could calculate far more than the physical brain could do acts like a frustrated glownigger and accomplishes nothing in the end besides being a dressed up tool.
>You got to worry.
No. Love isn't based in fear. Satan is just some faggot being a dick.
God, His Spirit and His Son has the keys to everything and more, they called us to be family with them. The Creator of everything including Satan and me and you has an interest in us. If you ask you'll recieve.
He won't let you go when you reach back.
That's why I don't care about Satan or his cohorts or minions or whatever.
He's got this.
If you want to participate with Him it's highly recommended. Just spending anything with God is always worth it.
You haven't been recieving because you haven't been asking.
It's so important that you have The Holy Ghost inside you so what He has in store for you is right there.
>Knowledge Wisdom
Why would I listen to Satan when I can listen to Him who is far greater.
Anything Satan would attempt to give of his will would be tainted at best.
>Smorter than you
Point is I'm insignificant, but God has the scale balanced. What you choose is yours. You can, because of God's grace.
That's also why I don't fret about Satan or any of those fucks.
You ask for the scales to be tipped to God's side even when fuck ups happen, and it already is so.
Besides why ask Satan when I can ask God?
God knows, and He has better things in store.
>Correlation Causation
Prove it. Point being you need more data to fo so.

>>173320
>you dont know what heretical mean
Definition:
>belief or opinion contrary to orthodox religious (especially Christian) doctrine.
"Sucking energy" isn't part of Christianity. You made it up, and you're trying to pass it off as gospel when it's just your fanfic headcanon, which is heresy by definition.
>claiming Satan has no power
He has no power over Christians. He is a tranny loser who's afraid of Jesus.
>thousands of years of knowlege and wisdom
He was at the peak of his wisdom when he served god, and has not gotten smarter since he fell from grace. He is incapable of learning, and refuses to even read the book. All of his demons kill themselves if you tell them the name of Christ, and he'd kill himself too if he weren't too scared to ever go near a Christian.
>define what you mean by "good christian"
Not my place to judge. Ask God.
>reddit moment
I have never used reddit even once, lol.
>there are both correlation and causation
There is not even correlation. People have believed in the world being round for centuries. The decline in religiosity is a very recent phenomena in the past few decades.
>you are illiterate and dont know what those mean
You can't even form a proper sentence, capitalize your words, punctuate your sentences, or properly place an apostrophe in contractions, and yet you call others illiterate.
You are a hypocrite.

>>173321
>Why would I listen to Satan
didnt say you should
>Prove it. Point being you need more data to fo so.
i dont have to prove anything, both correlation and causation exists. youve said nothing here.

>>173323
There is no correlation, neither is there causation.
Decline in religiosity occurred centuries after most people believed that the world was round.

>>173322
you believe satan doesnt feed off the energy of others, and nothing in your definition is relevant to what I said. like I said, you dont understand what heresy is, and by claiming satan doesn feed of the energy of sould, is non-canon and heretical. you got it backwards
>Not my place to judge. Ask God.
then why did you bring up "good Christian" if you cant define what you meant?

>>173324
yes there is, correlation and causation both exist. youre denying the existence of statistical measurements

>>173326
>yes there is, correlation
How is it a correlation if one even happens centuries after the other? If they do not occur in the same millenia, they are not correlated.

>>173325
>then why did you bring up "good Christian"
It was you who was accusing others of being Satanic false-Christians.
>you believe satan doesnt feed off the energy of others,
I believe he's a faggot tranny who will never have any power, and only tries to tempt people because that's what total losers do.
>by claiming satan doesn feed of the energy of sould, is non-canon and heretical. you got it backwards
What Christian canon, scripture, tradition or history makes references to Satan "feeding off of energy"? How is that Christian dogma?

>>173328
>It was you who was accusing others of being Satanic false-Christians
I said they are fake Christians, lukewarm and soft. I never said the term "satanic christian"
>What Christian canon, scripture, tradition or history makes references to Satan "feeding off of energy"? How is that Christian dogma?
you tell me the reason you think satan wants to take souls in the first place. more semantics

>>173329
>you tell me the reason you think satan wants to take souls in the first place.
Because he's jealous and spiteful, so he wants other losers to suffer with him.
Misery loves company.
>fake Christians
Who are you to judge who is a real Christian?
>more semantics
On that note, maybe learn some proper grammar.

>>173290
Why do you assume we believe in your fiction BS, or that we are right wing nuts to begin with? I couldn't vote for Trump as soon he showed his zionist interest, and never regretted it.
Flat earth is about research, not politics or religion, myself I'm leaning left because I question authority.

>>173275
Lmao I''ve shown this post to a friend, had a good laugh, may bring it to a convention!

>>173298
I know you are a scientist but you just prove you're just a religious nutcase. Research, research research! I pay you with my taxes!

>>173331
>Who are you to judge who is a real Christian?
by what they say and preach. which authority are you goimg to appeal to? you think calling yourself "Christian" is good enough grounds for good morals? how did you arrive at that conclusion?

>>173333
>good enough grounds for good morals?
The shape of the earth is not a moral question.

>>173334
It’s not really a religious question either, you’re pretty much just taking Christianity and grafting your own schizo fanfiction onto it.

>>173335
I know. It was the flat earther who claimed it was a religious thing.
>>173332
The boomer said that round earth is a conspiracy to turn people into nihilistic atheists, just because the idea of the universe being big makes him feel small. He went further as to say that they do it so that Satan can "suck up nihilistic energy".
Other Christian anons were saying that he is wrong, because the idea of a round earth or large universe never prevented them from being Christians, as well as to debate the non-canon idea of Satan "sucking energy" from people, which isn't a canon part of Christian dogma or tradition.
>Why do you assume we believe
Because 3/4 times people claim that the earth is flat, it's just religious screeching.
But since you claim otherwise, what would you say is the motive for why the powers that be would go through so much trouble to create a round earth conspiracy? What do they have to gain? Why would they do this? What is their reason to spend trillions of dollars and centuries of time and effort to do this?

>>173336
> I know. It was the flat earther who claimed it was a religious thing
My bad fam, thought you were the other guy. With no IDs it’s hard to tell who’s who.

>>173337
>With no IDs it’s hard to tell who’s who.
By design. The boomer made the thread without IDs to mask how hard he's been samefagging.

>close to 2600 replies
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>>173339
About time! Shut it down.

>>173339
>>173340
It's not about this thread, but threads in general. Bump limits are absurdly long on this site.
Bump limits exist for a reason.

>>173341
I think the reason they're so high on this board is because of the game threads. The rest of the site is like 700 I think, which isn't that much higher than 4chan. But I agree, a 2600 post limit is pretty absurd, especially when you have shitty bait threads like this abusing it.

>>173351
wtf, it's still bumping. will this stupid thread never die?

>>173352
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>>173354
Yeah, well, it's kind of hard for anyone to "win" when you basically just deflect and post shitty memes whenever anyone backs you into a corner. On top of that, it's an extremely silly thread topic that can be debunked by anyone with access to a high school science textbook. So in the end, it's a lot of energy wasted trying to win a pointless internet argument against a delusional autist with too much time on his hands. There are no winners here.

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>>173357
>On top of that, it's an extremely silly thread topic
I disagree, it is the most important one.

>>173364
Yeah I know you do. Thus reinforcing my view that you are a delusional autist with too much time on his hands.

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>>173364
You didn't give the love and care it deserves if it's that important.
So I'm giving it just as much love if not more love and care than what you do.
>Pic is facebook tier still
You haven't changed one bit.

>>173364
>a fucking PNG that's somehow still been sent through jpg crunch hell.
Wtf do you get these awful images macros?

>>173354
>I can't win so I'll just spam nonsense instead.
You did it after all these posts you've failed to coherently explain Flat Earth, why it's important, how it's functional or anything of substance.
I'm just watching the unlit fireplace till eventually it too ends.
You could put something of value in here, but you haven't for three years anywhere so I don't have much hope.

>>173356
>I don't know how the air is balanced if there's an ice wall in flatearth, wouldn't the air just fall off, if it's infinite then why isn't all the warm air rushing to exchange with the cold air or even balancing the concentrations, oh well.
>It's not like there's a force that attracts things towards things with masses, oh well.
did you verify the meme yourself? if not then how can you claim its real? youre obviously appealing to your own authority, and CGI is the only thing it can be. not real = therefore fake, and must be CGI

>>173397
>It's not like there's a force that attracts things towards things with masses, oh well.
Check you privilege anon. You can be retarded sometimes, but not all the time without being called out.

>>173398
>Check your privilege
did you verify the meme yourself? if not then how can you claim its real? youre obviously appealing to your own authority, and CGI is the only thing it can be. not real = therefore fake, and must be CGI

>>173389
Good question.

>>173351
All of this is nothing but a game.

>thread is still around to this day
God I hate you all so fucking much it's unreal. See you all in hell.

>>173452
You want to pick up any of the faggots slack? It's a heavy fucking load of bullshit just left to steam.
No?
I don't blame you, but Flat Earth has no highground.
Did you see them answer any questions? At all?
I didn't.
In the trenches watching the shit pile go higher and higher.
All the so called evidence for Flat Earth using Flat Earth standards for being true, means it's impossible. Can't trust any of them to not be in on maintaining the globe.
Can't trust anyone so how can you trust the math, science or so called evidence brought forth.
Flat Earthers can't. But they do so anyway.
Since nobody can be trusted to not be compromised by such an overwhelming organization why not take a look outside.
Just take a walk, admittedly in this day and age that's pretty dangerous.
When you see something fall it accelerates at ~9.8 meters per second per second
On a Flat Earth that means everything is moving faster and faster.
Since the beginning.
As such everything must also be moving at that same speed at the beginning to not fall.
Ah, but since it's just a vector force going 'up' people can push back against the acceleration.
And everyone would be able to tell that accelerating force has changed.
Woops. What if we consider it to just be a static part of reality.
Everything is going at approximately 9.8 meters per second ² going up.
That means if you were to jump you don't fall down because you're part of everything, because you too were going with that static Up force.
Whoops.
Let's say there's a massive list of exceptions that when not acted upon doesn't have the Static Up force applied.
What color is the sky?
As we approach faster and faster speeds light would being hitting at different frequencies.
Let's say you're on a walk, but you look off into the distance with the camera how far away is it?
Then you walk a bit more and check the other side.
I think you'll find some interesting data.
What if just on that walk double checking.
What if instead when on this walk you shine a laser at yourself and walk away from it once securing it.
What should happen? Where would to dot end up after walkimg for a very long way?
What if instead of doing that you made a map of your walk making every meter or aomething.
Then you do a sea search pattern when walking.
What happened to the map?
>>173453
I love games.

>>173461
>Did you see them answer any questions? At all?
>I didn't.
Don't worry blind poner, I brought something to make your rounded whereabouts a bit flatter.

This is strange, this thread is not bumping. Why?

And now mysteriously went down in the catalog to page 2.
WTF.

>>173466
I also noticed and no other threads were bumped to make it so, so it's strange.
>>173461
>There's no proof and we only win all the time.
Then why is there a problem with a containment thread?

>>173470
>>173461
< we only win all the time.
Actually, I retracted this statement because I'm not sure what you're saying, my reading comprehension is not good enough. So I apologize but my question stands.

The problem with globers is they keep going around in circles. They do what is called a "pilpul" argument. Instead of adressing the argument when they lost it, they move onto the next topic, as if nothing ever happened. Hitler warned about this exact type of argument tactic, and it comes from rabbinical study of the talmud.

How exactly can you tell that every space theory is a crock of shit? And I mean everything, planets, stars, gases, meteroites, dark matter, dark energy, gravity, etc. You can tell because of this argument tactic they use. The reason the theory of gravity is convincing to many is because its over-arched and reinforced by another theory, rather than being a theory that stands strong by itself.

Go ahead, ask any glober here to give an experiment anyone can preform, that proves the existence of gravity caused by the bending and warping of space-time. once you get to the point where they cant prove it, theyll jump to the pilpul tactic and say something like "well explain this then" or "how does this work then" which moves away from topic.

This happens every single time, without fail. Which is why flat vs globe debates never go anywhere.

After the 2600+ replies in this thread, still we recieve no verification for how curvature is detected and measurement for the 3959 mile radius.

Theyre also going to tell you to "explain the math", which is just a display of their own ignorance on the purpose of mathmatics in physical experiments.

>>173463
>I won't solve it I'll have someone else who I never verified solve it.
Nah, I'm done you have to do it.
You shit on every piece of evidence by other people by other people so you can't use it either. Good luck.
>>173470
>Containment thread
Well in the 2650 posts Flat Earth posting has remained decidedly shitty. Any discussion gets lambasted by Flatearthers and nothing is ever resolved.
It's just delay deny and deflect. Again.
And again.
And again.
There is now a multiple threads with delay, deny and deflect kind of shit fuckery.
It's a cancer, every time discussions tried to happen it got shut down by OP and fellow fucktards.
So you could say I'm sick and tired of all of them and deciding to reach out my hand just got it burned.
I don't want that kind of bullshit.
OP desires to remake the whole site in what he decides is best.
So I'm not enthused.
>I just wanted to discuss Flat Earth.
Well do it I guess, because it won't really calm down. OP burnt down all his good will, fellow Flat Earthers copied OP and shutdown discussion.
It's like a radioactive wasteland.
>What's your point?
Stuff that falls breaks Flat Earth models.
Image what happens when everything is moving at ~9.8 meters per second squared. My point is that is acceleration, everything has to be going faster on some Flat Earth models.
If everything is accelerating its almost like nothing is so we should be in freefall. So it's either something stranger or Flat Earth doesn't work.
Or on some Flat Earth models only some things fall inexplicably. It's a mystery why it happens.
So I move to the next point.
Stuff moving affects the color it is.
The furthest distance you see should always be the same on Flat Earth, it isn't.
The next is a test of straight lines, if you walk far enough the point where the laser light hits is different.
Mapping on Flat Earth should be easy.
On a Flat Earth coast gaurd search patterns are efficient in viewing all directions. Mapping that small irregularities and flaws quickly add up.

>>173475
>Mr Slime being like slime
Well just stop jewing you cunt.

>>173476
>noooooo having a single flat earth bread thats off the main board is literally remaking the site
lol
also you dont need a laid out model for every physical experiment. maybe learn science?

>>173475
>Experiment
I gave multiple. And theres multitudes in this thread you decided to totally ignore and forget, just like a jew debater.
It's right here too >>173461
>I use math wrong so I don't understand how math can prove anything instead of the other way around.
Right, I know.
3959 M I L E curve, it's detectable you're just too much of a brainlet to see every piece of evidence in your own evidence about Flat Earth
For fucks sake three thousand nine hundred fifty nine miles is fucking big. You aren't miles big you're feet big.
You never even tried to use an astronomy telescope which has better amplification than a Nikon.
Want proof of the curve, go survey and make a map as seen, from each location. With the multiple maps you have, you'll find they don't quite line up.

>>173478
>>173479
>I never learned math or science or practicality.
You know I made a point and now you're refusing it again. Just as I said you would.
Then you're going to fuck around for a bit and whenever I bring up any math or a test or anything you'll just post more garbage and hide it.
I have 2650 posts of proof of you doing that. You aren't trustworthy or capable.

>3959 M I L E curve, it's detectable you're just too much of a brainlet to see every piece of evidence in your own evidence about Flat Earth
how did you detect it? go over your steps in your experiment
>>173481
physics explains things, mathmatics describes things. they arent the same thing which was my main point.
anyways if you can go over your steps like previous post failed to do, thatd be nice

I'm sure after 3 years of dancing around in his purple codpiece OP is gonna entertain an honest and productive discussion. Please, continue contributing to every thread he makes. This site's future depends on how much attention we give the faceboomer.

>>173482
Take a picture of the horizon using your Nikon. I would also recommend bringing a straight edge with or part of the location. There's your curve.
Not obvious enough?
Squish the sides bringing them closer and closer. You'll see it.
>>173483
I know he will do so. So I'm making yet another stand and proof.
Because after this I'm done feeding that fuck.

>>173484
>Because after this I'm done feeding that fuck.
Good.
Then would you mind to remove the anchor to this thread and let it be free to make it bump again?
After all this topic was never of your liking and it is pointless to interfere on its development.

>>173485
>Hur I don't know how image boards work
Go neck yourself cunt.

>>173486
/vx/ has not bump limits and anchoring this thread is sabotage. What about that? Hah?

You're a fucking retard know nothing.

>>173475
>How exactly can you tell that every space theory is a crock of shit? And I mean everything, planets, stars, gases, meteroites, dark matter, dark energy, gravity, etc. You can tell because of this argument tactic they use. The reason the theory of gravity is convincing to many is because its over-arched and reinforced by another theory, rather than being a theory that stands strong by itself.
This might actually be the most pants-on-head retarded thing I've all year. Also, lol at this thread finally hitting bump limit

>>173484
>Squish the sides bringing them closer and closer
AHAHAHAHA the most retarded glober cope ever

For my part, I'm still waiting on an answer to the extremely simple question I asked: if a massive centuries-spanning conspiracy to conceal the true shape of the earth from the average person did in fact exist, who created it and to what purpose? Setting aside even the most basic questions of how such a complex conspiracy could be managed, who benefits from this effort and how? I never got a real answer. This anon >>173266 >>173270 told me to call 1-900-MIX-A-LOT. Meanwhile this anon >>173287 just spouted a bunch of sketchy pseudo-religious gibberish about the devil trying to feed on negative energy, which not only fails to answer the original question but actually raises further questions.

Flat earth is fake and gay. Nothing left to do with this thread but give it a casual salute as it slides its way to the bottom of the catalog, like a giant glob of cum sliding from OP's forehead to his chin.

>>173493
>>173493
"why the lie" is such a retarded fucking question. why do they lie about anything retard. to gain control over others. there are truths about flat earth that have profound impacts on human perspective, your pea brain just cant see it because you never stepped over to the other side. yes, the actual conditions and workings of the realm you live in matter, thats what we believe. if you disagree fine, just stop being a jewish shill cunt

>>173498
>just stop being a jewish shill cunt
That's just a bunch of buzzwords strung together. He's just disagreeing.

What control does "flat earth don't real" give over anyone?
If anything it would cost more money to fake more efficient flights and sea paths, fake orbital satellite programs, fake probes, fake satellite technology in general, fake the math behind ICBMs...and all it would take is one physicist providing a decent model that stands on its own.
So, be more precise: why the lie? What specific advantage do !!They!! get by faking a globe earth?

>>173500
>da goberment would never waste money
wut lol

>>173500
Gem
>>173502
Coal

>>173502
It's not the government, it's every government, every corporation, every scientific study, every entrepreneurial venture (see, Elon), et cetera. It's not just a little money, it's a massive financial incentive to fly the most efficiently, make ballistic weapons work at longer ranges...my point isn't that America wouldn't waste money, it's that the amount of waste is massive in a flat earth model, and yet we don't see that. At least, not in that field.

Jannie, remove the anchor. Let this thread float as is meant to be.

>>173506
You stupid bastard, you hit bump limit. Your thread's been up for THREE GODDAMN YEARS.

>>173506
Gonna counter-vote against anything this nigger asks for

>>173507
Irrelevant. /vx/ has not bump limits and has not relationship whatsoever to time.
Free the bread.

>>173509
Counter-vote for OP to eat a bag of dicks

>>173510
Get a trip around the flat plane anon. May the freemasons pay you more.

>>173506
There is no anchor. Board-wide bump limit has been set to 2200.

I literally cannot click “reply” to your posts while in moderator mode without the thread crashing on my phone.

>>173512
>without the thread crashing on my phone.
Sorry to read that. Did you try to load the last @50 replays? It works every time without any issues.

>>173513
It would explain why you keep making redundant arguments and posting things that have already been posted.

>>173498
>"why the lie" is such a retarded fucking question
It's not a retarded question, it's a perfectly valid one that you refuse to answer, most likely because you can't. The "why" of any big project is important, in fact it's probably more important than the "how". It might be technically possible to dig a hole from America to China well, I guess in your version of reality it wouldn't be, but bear with me for a moment, but it would be an extremely expensive and time-consuming project. Even supposing any one party had the resources required, I think most reasonable people would concede that there are easier ways to get to China.

>why do they lie about anything retard. to gain control over others.
Case in point. If what you're claiming is true, then we're not just talking about simple willful deception of the masses by authorities. We're talking about a massive globe-spanning excuse me, table-spanning conspiracy stretching back centuries. Entire disciplines of science have been faked. Entire industries based on that body of scientific knowledge have been faked. Everyone from ancient Greek astronomers to Columbus and Vespucci to Jules Verne he wrote "Around the World in 80 Days," after all to Neil Armstrong and Elon Musk would had to have been in on it, and also willing to blatantly lie to all of humanity about it.

It would also require the conspirators to maintain complete and total control over the independent actions of anyone not involved in the conspiracy, for literally thousands of years. I mean, if some nerd with a sailboat decided he wanted to circumnavigate the earth, only to end up bumping into the sky like the goddamn Truman Show, wouldn't that blow the lid off of the whole thing?

I think that, when you really consider the scope and magnitude of human effort that would be required for what you're proposing to actually be true, "y tho?" is a pretty fucking reasonable question to ask. Considerably more important than "hurr durr how do you prove curvature tho?!?111!?". Doubly so if "they want to le control le people because they are le evil" is the best answer you can come up with. There are easier goddamn ways to get to China.

Also, who are "they," anyway? Which of the usual boogeymen are we talking about here? Jews? Freemasons? Lizard people from outer space? Oh wait; outer space isn't real, so scratch that last one. Still though, we haven't identified an actual guilty party for this whole schizo clusterfuck. Are we still talking about Satan? Is he using "they/them" pronouns now? Wouldn't put it past him, that one's a slippery fucker.

>yes, the actual conditions and workings of the realm you live in matter, thats what we believe. if you disagree fine, just stop being a jewish shill cunt
Yes, they do matter. That is why hundreds of thousands of people over the centuries have devoted time and energy into studying these things and working them out, resulting in the vast body of scientific knowledge that you feel justified in dismissing with a few half-assed memes and some troll physics. This isn't a matter of me disagreeing with you, this is a matter of you disagreeing with literally everyone who isn't retarded.

>>173512
>There is no anchor. Board-wide bump limit has been set to 2200.
Thank you for let me know.
Flat Earth #2 - Reborn INCOMING SOON

>>173516
What do you even have left to say that hasn't already been said?

>>173517
Chillax poner, you will have your chance, again, to shill the globe as much as you like.

>>173518
Do you have any original content, or are you just trying to eternally-bump a general?

>>173516
Or you could, you know, not do that. This thread isn't breaking any rules and you're free to do what you want, but sometimes it's better to just accept that some hills just aren't worth dying on.

Also, this thread is still in the catalog. Posting a new one before it falls off would technically be in violation of the "no duplicate threads" rule.

>>173512
That is such a an absurdly high bump limit.
It should be 1000 at most.

>>173519
The curve has not been found yet, right?

>>173522
>Implying things are the same as they were 3 years ago
Make s new thread when there's a major relevant happening.

>>173520
I want the thread at the top. If it is not bumping nopony will know there is activity, this is pretty obvious.

>>173524
Counter-vote

>>173525
This is texbook FlatEarthphobia, WOW.
Why such a terror to a silly bread?

>>173524
>I want the thread at the top.
And I want a blowjob from Twilight Sparkle. Doesn't mean it's actually going to happen. If people want to post in this thread, it's in the catalog, hence people still posting even though it's not bumping anymore. If you post a new thread while this one is still in the catalog, it will be deleted. Consider this your warning.

>>173526
>-phobia
You are a nigger.

>>173528
>If you post a new thread while this one is still in the catalog, it will be deleted. Consider this your warning.
Fine. Then what about /sp/?

>>173530
No. This is your thread for talking about this schizo flat earth nonsense. All discussion of this subject will be contained here. You already have two containment threads on /sp/, you don't need another one.

>173530
>
It's impossible to reason with this nigger.

>>173531
Acknowledged.

>>173532
>reason
Nah, it is just plain bounding and gagging.

>>173524
You already have a very loyal set of flies posting to this garbage pile of a thread. What more do you want?

>>173535
~Oh nooooo....! No free speech to be had on /mlpol/. Time to look for greener pastures.
Perhaps Facebook would be more to your liking.

>>173537
Keep dreaming.

>>173536
>What more do you want?
The Flat Earth bumping as it should. Not more, not less. I'm not asking much, just to be allowed to shitpost in my designated containment thread without being torpedoed by the management.

>>173539
You're not being torpedoed, you're just being asked to follow the basic rules of the site. If you want to insist on being a cunt about this we can go down that road, but you probably won't like where it ends up.

>>173505
>every corporation, every scientific study, every entrepreneurial venture (see, Elon), et cetera
blatantly false lie. why would you make this up?
>>173515
why are you asking me why all those figures in the past and present can never demonstrate how they verified curvature? everything they show us is fake, using CGI, photo manipulation, or greenscreen pools inside studios.

VERY GOOD QUESTION ON WHY THEY WOULD JUST RANDOMLY SAY ALL THIS SHIT, AND THEN ITS GETS THROWN INTO THE PUBLIC EDUCATION CIRRUCULUM.
WHY. WOULD. THEY. DO. THAT?

>>173542
>never demonstrate how they verified curvature
Aristotle didn't have greenscreen pools (what do you mean pools?), photo manipulation, CGI, or....photos. He had raw math and shadow measurements with which he extrapolated a close estimate of the volume of the earth.
>blatantly false lie
It's literally the only way that the globe earth model could be sustained -- if absolutely no flights followed the flat map, or any spacefaring craft or ballistic weapon. Because if the flat earth model were true, those who utilized it would be able to launch missiles faster, fly jets faster, move satellites faster, and get the advantage in any conflict or race. And yet...we don't see that. We see pilots flying routes in a specific route, as though the earth were a globe.

>>173542
>why are you asking me why all those figures in the past and present can never demonstrate how they verified curvature?
Are you high, or just a bad typist? I'm not asking anything even remotely close to that. I'm asking who you think organized this vast conspiracy you're claiming exists, and what, if anything, they hoped to gain from it. Still waiting on an answer, btw.

>everything they show us is fake, using CGI, photo manipulation, or greenscreen pools inside studios.
That's a pretty bold claim to make. Have any proof?

>WHY. WOULD. THEY. DO. THAT?
That's literally what I'm asking you. Also, I repeat my earlier question: who exactly are "they?"

>>173542
>VERY GOOD QUESTION ON WHY THEY WOULD JUST RANDOMLY SAY ALL THIS SHIT, AND THEN ITS GETS THROWN INTO THE PUBLIC EDUCATION CIRRUCULUM.
Also, this is not a sentence, nor is it the proper spelling of the word "curriculum." Those little red squiggly lines under the words you type indicate spelling errors, you should pay more attention to them.

>>173543
using sticks and shadow IS NOT verification of curvature or valid measurement. its not aristotle youre referring to goof, its eratosthenes who first made this dumb idea up
>>173544
Im asking YOU why they would say all this shit without being able to verify it. they never brought forth falsifiablity to begin with.
>I'm not asking anything even remotely close to that.
okay tell me why I should care? thats why I asked you the thing I asked you specifically. youre being psychoanalytic like a jew, and questioning my stance against a positive claim thats never been verified. "why would they fake it all" is not the question to be asked, its "why have they never verified shit to us but still make these claims"

>>173548
>youre being psychoanalytic like a jew
You use "Jew" like a meaningless buzzword, as if that behavior is somehow exclusive to them. People do that shit on the internet all of the time.
Also, Psychoanalysis isn't real. It's pseudoscience, and modern psychology has since moved passed it.
>questioning my stance against a positive claim thats never been verified
You are making very many positive claims about a supposed global conspiracy to convince people that the earth is round.
>why have they never verified shit to us but still make these claims"
When they verify it with actual photos and math, you say they are fake.
What would even count as verification to you?

>>173466
>>173516
>>173512
>>173520
>>173528
Here's who I see it:
<Mysteriously, this thread fell off to page two around 2.6k posts.
<The bump limit is apparently set at 2200 or was this a recent change?
<Perhaps that could explain why the thread dropped off past threads that hadn't been bumped at the time.
<This could obviously just be a technical thing but it's just a bit weird and why I included it.
<Admin Lotus said, he can't click reply (while mod mode on) without his phone crashing.
<The thread is therefore too big and needs a new one.
>Posting a new one before it falls off would technically be in violation of the "no duplicate threads" rule.
<I disagree.
<GG posted, in that case, duplicates of his threads back when he was reviewing F:E.
<Now he's reviewing a longer work, obviously you can't reasonably force him to post in his thread past 700 posts until it drops off the catalog.
<I would also say that Occupied Equestria threads also falls into this category of being duplicates of one another.
>If you post a new thread while this one is still in the catalog, it will be deleted.
<This board has very low activity. This will take forever. I don't believe you don't know this.

Anyway, I don't really see the problem. It's been here for years, just let OP post a new thread and then it can sit here for years too. Through this period he hasn't posted his ideas outside of his containment thread, as far as I'm aware. Like look at the humor thread's Op that's on the board right now, it literally makes fun of his position but you can't find him replying to it to start anything.

>>173551
>Mysteriously
I will retract that mysteriously. I honestly don't know and I sorry for accusing anyone. I kinda just copied the wording of the previous post that I replied to in the post.

>>173551
>GG made new thread
There's nothing worth talking about in Flat Earth. No big new thing that absolutely needs to be talked about.
Every time in GG'ss it's a new topic fully exposed or exhausted and it's not on /vx/ which is much shorter.
OP and cohorts didn't even answer anything.
You never answered.
There's never an answer.
Ever.
Why are you even on this stupid bastard's side?
He shoveled shit and dances around every point.
>173526
>This is texbook FlatEarthphobia, WOW.
He lies constantly.
>I don't really see the problem.
Really?
Have you even read these past thousand posts?
Good God man.
You know what happened next?
He made a new thread anyway!
It's been deleted, but for fucks sake dude.
Nobody gets any answers every time someone says post a curve and someone does so or there's fucking math it's dismissed on insane nonsensical grounds or never talked about again.
Every fucking time.
>I would appreciate not using such harsh language.
Well there's nobody answering anything except retarded images and twitches hour long rambles that fuck up the FlatEarth position or just says "hehe globbers dum".

Since OP loves long videos. Here we go.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR_Yfhg-Bjg

One more for good measure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgHhmBW6-LE

>>173553
>You never answered.
I did answer.

Besides, the idea that whoever gets last word wins doesn't make any sense.

>Really?
There's no problem with having a containment thread for this question.
>There's nothing worth talking about in Flat Earth. No big new thing that absolutely needs to be talked about.
Never stopped threads before nor are you unbiased judge for this.
>Why are you even on this stupid bastard's side?
I'm not really on anyone's side. I simply think the flat earth model is convincing and I find no argument so far as I lurked that really convinced my otherwise, but obviously it could be wrong, which I'm very open for. That people generate drama about this has nothing to do with me.

>>173556
>I simply think the flat earth model is convincing
What model? Any model that a flat earther provides either contradicts itself or has to introduce new ideas to compensate for its inconsistencies. Like if gravity is just an upward force, as another anon said, then it would have to always be accelerating in order for objects to accelerate downward. If the flat earth map people associate with it is to be believed, then people on opposite ends of the outer ring are all seeing the southern cross from completely different areas in other directions. And then the questions of what are north and south come up. On the map with the north pole as the center, this means that there is no east or west, north is just an inward direction, and south is literally just "head towards the nearest point on the ice wall" (don't get me started on the ice wall argument, my head hurts already).

If OP has any long term memory he might remember when I confronted him about the southern cross hundreds of posts ago.

>>173551
Moderating a site like this tends to be a balancing act between preserving free speech for all users which includes idiots with nothing especially valuable to say while still maintaining a high-quality discussion environment. Rules on the site exist for the purpose of maintaining that quality. To that effect, how stringently a given rule is enforced will depend on the situation and the general attitude of the site's userbase, as well as the overall effect any mod action would have on the quality of the site as a whole. In other words, the interpretation of the rules is subordinate to their purpose.

For instance, the No Generals rule was put in place originally because generals were a huge problem on 4chan at the time the site was founded, but since this site didn't really have the same problem, we didn't feel the need to strictly enforce this rule for most of the site's history. The Syria General and Anonfilly threads technically count as generals, but those threads are well-loved by the community and have been an integral part of board culture for some time. To my knowledge nobody has ever complained about either of them.

Eventually, though, the "random news" thread and a couple others turned into massive generals which were being constantly bumped with low-effort content and no discussion, mostly by one user. This meant that every time someone visited the site, it was usually the same couple of low-quality, general-topic threads at the top of the page. This led to multiple complaints, which were deemed valid, because essentially this one user was filling the board with the kind of low-quality high-volume posting that people come here from 4chan to get away from. So, in this case, the no generals rule was enforced for these threads, while other threads like Anonfilly and /sg/, which arguably are generals, were left alone.

>GG posted, in that case, duplicates of his threads back when he was reviewing F:E.
The Glim Glam threads are each dedicated to a review of a single story, so each thread is technically its own topic. The FoE review spilled into multiple threads because of the 700 post limit on the main board + the length of the story + Nigel's endless shitposting taking up space. It was an ongoing topic that was consistently producing new content, and the duration of the thread was determined by the amount of time needed to review the entire story. As soon as the story ended, there were no more GG FoE threads; the next Glim Glam thread was about a new story. In other words, every Glim Glam thread has a self-contained topic, and the lifespan of the threads is determined by how long it takes to exhaust discussion of that topic.

This thread is different. For one, it's gone on for three years, for almost 3,000 posts, without any apparent conclusion being reached. How many more threads of the same length would it take to bring the discussion to a close? The problem with this thread is that it's not a discussion that's going to end, it's just going to go on the way it's been going in perpetuity forever. Since the OP of this thread is the same person who was responsible for a large portion of the high-volume low-quality posting I mentioned earlier, it's likely that he sees the endless cyclical nature of this thread as a feature and not a bug.

Basically, what OP wants is for this thread to be continuously bumped to the top of the overboard so it's constantly visible, the same way he wanted visibility for his other low-quality junk threads. The problem with this is that what makes him happy tends to piss everyone else off.

So, in effect, we're being asked to piss off the entire mlpol community or at least most of it in order to accommodate the whims of one obnoxious schizo. To this request, we say "neigh." If people want to discuss flat earth, they are free to do so in this thread until it expires. Meanwhile, the rest of the community gets a break from seeing it constantly occupying the top spot on the overboard. Pretty much a win-win for all parties involved.

When I first encountered the idea of “flat earth” a decade or so ago, I was convinced that it was a troll created to troll Reddit atheists, and generally the kind of people who always want to believe that they are smarter than someone else and will argue with anything. So when this thread appeared three years ago, my opinion was that people who tried to argue against flat earth should know better than to think they were going to have a sincere discussion on a scientific question, and they should just not reply to the thread and not engage in argument. And that’s exactly why I have not been a part of this thread for the past three years - because I don’t expect a real conversation.

After three years, I’ve been basically proven correct that this is nothing but a troll topic. Only meme images are posted, questions challenging the theory are ignored, and in every way the thread behaves as a bait or troll thread. OP even refers to his activity in this thread as “shitposting.” Where I was wrong was in believing that users would eventually learn not to reply to bait. They have not. This thread is very often top of the overboard and crowds the homepage, and always with very bad, unproductive content of people raging.

We have rules against bait threads and generally delete them on sight. This thread has been treated leniently because it’s posted by a regular user, and maybe, just maybe, the OP is sincere in his belief and doesn’t intend to create a terrible thread. But the reality is that this thread is identical in all practical respects to a bait thread. Given that, the best solution is to just keep discussion here in a thread that will not bump. Maybe if things changed and the quality of discussion were raised to be higher than simple bait, then a new thread would be warranted. But I don’t think that is ever going to happen.

>>173549
pilpul is a jewish tactic, thats where it originates. in you stating that "everyone on the internet does it" doesnt make it non-jewish behavior. its not a buzzterm, its a discription of a behavior thats originally jewish. and youre partaking in it
physchoanalysis is a noun. psychoanalytic is a verb. maybe learn english?
A poisitive claim about a conspiracy is actually the conclusion thats arrived at when they cant support all the positive claims they make. do you know the meaning of 'conspiracy"? i means cover-up. how do you cover up? by lying. have you ever heard of deductive reasoning?
what the fuck else would you call it if not a conspiracy then? theyre lying because as I stated before, their cartoon theories have never been verified. why would you trust any of it?

>>173570
>do you know the meaning of 'conspiracy"? i means cover-up.
it literally doesn't though

>>173569
>We have rules against bait threads and generally delete them on sight. This thread has been treated leniently because it’s posted by a regular user, and maybe, just maybe, the OP is sincere in his belief and doesn’t intend to create a terrible thread. But the reality is that this thread is identical in all practical respects to a bait thread. Given that, the best solution is to just keep discussion here in a thread that will not bump. Maybe if things changed and the quality of discussion were raised to be higher than simple bait, then a new thread would be warranted. But I don’t think that is ever going to happen.
It is fine. You are the Admin and have the the final say.
On my end, I see the issue from a very different stand point and I pay more attention to actions than words. I stand for the plane and my refusal to entertain shills under no circumstance may be understood as lack of proof, all of which has been posted and in great quantities. Also I'm not blind to the /mlpol/'s move to mirror ZOG's policies to stonewall emerging narratives and inconvenient truths online, such as the oxymoron: "Freedom of Speech is Not Freedom of Reach".
Not my intention to debate or even to challenge your decision as I see it as a "fait accompli" and therefore my intention is no longer participate in a controlled opposition playground. On my part, it was a good ride and I truly enjoyed it
Cheers.

>Flearther still complaining that he can't make a clone thread with no new content
Shut up, nigger. Everyone can still see your shitty thread on the main board.

>>173597
You want to fuck the ponies from my little pony? What is wrong with you?

>>173571
>subversive has no connotation to the term "cover-up"
youre being ridiculous. you know words exist because they are descriptive, not prescriptive? being hung up on definitions doesnt help anyone

>>173599
>you know words exist because they are descriptive, not prescriptive?
No. English is a prescriptive language. English has grammatical rules and standards, despite your disregard for them. Prescriptive linguistics is the only thing that prevents English from devolving into ebonics.

>>173598
>You want to fuck the ponies from my little pony
Where do you think you are?

>>173596
>/mlpol/'s move to mirror ZOG's policies to stonewall emerging narratives and inconvenient truths online, such as the oxymoron: "Freedom of Speech is Not Freedom of Reach".
What utter bullshit. Your presence is only tolerated because of this site's commitment to freedom of speech.
>my intention is no longer participate in a controlled opposition playground. On my part, it was a good ride and I truly enjoyed it
Don't let the door hit you in the butt on the way out.
Cheers.

>>173570
>in you stating that "everyone on the internet does it" doesnt make it non-jewish behavior
It's normal behavior on chansites, and has been since the beginning of 4chan.
>its not a buzzterm, its a discription of a behavior thats originally jewish
You're using it like a buzzword.
>physchoanalysis is a noun. psychoanalytic is a verb. maybe learn english?
>learn english
Ask me that again when you learn to type a proper sentence.
Your grammar is terrible, you mispel words, and you don't even capitalize your sentences. You type like a nigger. It's annoying as hell.
>A poisitive claim about a conspiracy is actually the conclusion thats arrived at
A positive claim is a positive claim.
>theories have never been verified
They have been verified countless times. You just dismiss all of them as fake. Nothing would count as verification to you.

>>173603
its not a positive claim, its a conclusion based on invalid positive claim on the globe. the globe hasnt backed its positive claims yet.
I make zero positive claim except that theres no detectable curvature and no verifiable measurement, which you continue to keep ignoring and will do so everytime you reply to my posts
>They have been verified countless times. You just dismiss all of them as fake. Nothing would count as verification to you.
can you verify them or not? go over your methods. thats all weve been asking. it hasnt been done a single time in this thread. please show me the post where its been done, ive read all of them already

>>173607
>its not a positive claim
It is.
>its a conclusion based on
That's not mutually exclusive with being a positive claim.
>I make zero positive claim
Earlier you claimed that thousands of airline flight paths didn't exist and that the tens of thousands of people who took them were paid actors. That's a claim, and it is positive (says X happened).
>no verifiable measurement
By your ridiculous John Locke tier standards of refusing to believe anything that you do not see with your naked eyes (unless of course it supports your narrative) in spite of no evidence of fabrication.
>which you continue to keep ignoring
I see them. I just disagree.
>can you verify them or not?
Which thing do you want verified? There are so many.

>>173608
>Earlier you claimed that thousands of airline flight paths didn't exist and that the tens of thousands of people who took them were paid actors. That's a claim, and it is positive (says X happened).
no i didnt, you just made that up. i said flight paths make no sense on a globe. also there are pilots who are flat earthers, but ofc i have to explain that to an ignoramus
what do you want me to conclude other than that its a conspiracy? you refuse to answer the question
>By your ridiculous John Locke tier standards of refusing to believe anything that you do not see with your naked eyes (unless of course it supports your narrative) in spite of no evidence of fabrication.
flat earth evidence requires the naked eye, globe evidence requires believing in unfalsifiable claims
>Which thing do you want verified? There are so many.
unfortunately there is zero otherwise you wouldnt be doing this song and dance about it, and show me

>173609
>you wouldnt be doing this song and dance about it
I think I'll just stop then. I'm tired of dancing with you.

>>173596
>my refusal to entertain shills under no circumstance may be understood as lack of proof, all of which has been posted and in great quantities.
>I'm not blind to the /mlpol/'s move to mirror ZOG's policies to stonewall emerging narratives and inconvenient truths online, such as the oxymoron: "Freedom of Speech is Not Freedom of Reach".
See, this kind of attitude is part of why this thread has turned into an endless cyclical argument with no purpose, and why staff is no longer inclined to take your complaints seriously. You've basically made up your mind about what's true, and anyone who disagrees or presents another point of view is automatically a shill or ZOG. You're willing to debate people, but only within a very narrow framework whose boundaries you get to define.

As I recall, you took the same bull-headed attitude when everyone was asking you to please stop dumping facebook memes all over the site. You're very similar to Nigel in this regard: you're either unable or unwilling to understand why your posting style rubs other people the wrong way, and whenever you're criticized you immediately spin it into some kind of persecution complex. Maybe it's an autistic thing, idk.

In any event, your interpretation of this situation is way off. There are no "shills" in this thread, just anons who are mocking you because you keep making outrageous claims that you can't back up. There is no attempt on the part of management to "stonewall" you either. If we really wanted to quash discussion of the "inconvenient truths" you think you're dropping, we would have done it three years and 2700 posts ago. For the last three years, you've had a platform from which to spread your ideas. You couldn't make your case effectively, and you've been shouted down by the crowd. That's all that's happening here. You might not like it, but this is how free speech works.

I'll tell you the same thing I told Nigel the last time he threw one of his trademark hissy fits: if you want to keep making an ass of yourself all over the site you're free to do so. However, you're still bound by the same rules that everyone else is; we're not just going to let you endlessly shit everything up with impunity. /mlpol/ is not your private blog. If anons don't like the content you post, you're going to get mocked and shouted down. If you double down, you're just going to get mocked and shouted down even harder, it's just part of imageboard culture. I hope at least some of this gets through to you.